Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-29 Thread fisch
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 22:06, lukas wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:
  hi,
  i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I
  find out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
  I tried dhcpd -d eth0 but only my IP/MAC were shown.
 
 Do you maybe mean dhcpcd -d eth0, but it makes no difference,
 you will only see your IP/MAC. :)
 
 Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
 and then type arp -a. Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
 your network.

I know the IP's/MAC's of all clients in the network, but there is a
dhcp-server which shouldn't be one! I wan't to find the IP/MAC of the
dhcp-server which gives me an IP.

 cu
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-29 Thread fisch
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 00:58, lukas wrote:
 On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
 
   Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
   and then type arp -a. Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
   your network.
  
  :-) Good advice, but how can u ping your network broadcast
 
  address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
  is not installed/broken ...)
 
  U have to use  ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255 instead,
  but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...
 
 That's right. :)
 If you really don't know any network adresses this is not the
 right method and I really don't know how to do it correctly.
 Is it possible to physicaly isolate the dhcp-server? Then you

not realy :) I can only test on which 48Port Switch it is connected :)

 can connect only one client to it, and the broadcast should
 work.
 
 cu
 
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[gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread fisch
hi,
i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
I tried dhcpd -d eth0 but only my IP/MAC were shown.
please help
fisch
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
fisch wrote:
hi,
i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
I tried dhcpd -d eth0 but only my IP/MAC were shown.
please help
fisch
run dhclient

if it went ok, u'll find all u need somewhere
in /var/???/dhclient-eth0.leases
MAC to any IP on LAN can be find easily by arp command
(ping to IP may be needed, because it's cleaned periodically)
noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread lukas
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:
 hi,
 i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I
 find out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
 I tried dhcpd -d eth0 but only my IP/MAC were shown.

Do you maybe mean dhcpcd -d eth0, but it makes no difference,
you will only see your IP/MAC. :)

Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
and then type arp -a. Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
your network.

cu

lukas

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 19:45, fisch wrote:
 hi,
 i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
 out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
 I tried dhcpd -d eth0 but only my IP/MAC were shown.
 please help
 fisch

/var/lib/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info contains this information on my system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 19:45, fisch wrote:
 hi,
 i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
 out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
 I tried dhcpd -d eth0 but only my IP/MAC were shown.
 please help
 fisch

/var/lib/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info contains this information on my system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
lukas wrote:
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:

Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
and then type arp -a. Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
your network.
:-) Good advice, but how can u ping your network broadcast
address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
is not installed/broken ...)
U have to use  ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255 instead,
but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...
noro





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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread Shawn
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
 lukas wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:
 
  Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
  and then type arp -a. Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
  your network.
  
 
 :-) Good advice, but how can u ping your network broadcast
 address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
 is not installed/broken ...)

You /can/ do dhcpcd -T -d, and that will give you the ARP of the DHCP
server answering (or at least the bootp helper switch/router).

Then, you find the IP. Maybe run arpwatch and check the cache.

 U have to use  ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255 instead,
 but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...

More like it's likely it won't even answer. There's no good reason for
ISP infrastructure to answer to broadcast pings.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread lukas
On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:

  Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
  and then type arp -a. Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
  your network.
 
 :-) Good advice, but how can u ping your network broadcast

 address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
 is not installed/broken ...)

 U have to use  ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255 instead,
 but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...

That's right. :)
If you really don't know any network adresses this is not the
right method and I really don't know how to do it correctly.
Is it possible to physicaly isolate the dhcp-server? Then you
can connect only one client to it, and the broadcast should
work.

cu

lukas

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

2004-01-28 Thread Shawn
See my email.

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:58, lukas wrote:
 On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
 
   Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
   and then type arp -a. Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
   your network.
  
  :-) Good advice, but how can u ping your network broadcast
 
  address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
  is not installed/broken ...)
 
  U have to use  ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255 instead,
  but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...
 
 That's right. :)
 If you really don't know any network adresses this is not the
 right method and I really don't know how to do it correctly.
 Is it possible to physicaly isolate the dhcp-server? Then you
 can connect only one client to it, and the broadcast should
 work.
 
 cu
 
 lukas

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