[gentoo-user] two subnetworks

2003-10-20 Thread Selentek 24331-03
Hello,

I have a computer with two interfaces: eth0 and eth1

/sbin/ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:50:88:D3
inet addr:5.5.5.98 Bcast:5.5.5.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
...
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:50:88:D4
inet addr:192.168.1.12 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.255
...

/sbin/route
default * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 - I down't know what is this.
192.168.1.17 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1
192.168.1.16 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1
192.168.1.15 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1
5.5.5.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
default 5.5.5.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
0

My computer's ip is 5.5.5.2 with default gw 5.5.5.1
5.5.5.1 - cisco router

Is it right to ping 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.2 ?

I down't want to see 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.0 network.


Sorry for my english.

Thanks.




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Re: [gentoo-user] two subnetworks

2003-10-20 Thread David Gethings
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:48, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
 default * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 - I down't know what is this.
That is you default route. It is the route your PC uses to send traffic
to your Cisco.

 Is it right to ping 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.2 ?
If you are pinging from the PC that bridges the two netwroks, then yes
you will be able to ping both networks.

 I down't want to see 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.0 network.
I'm no expert on UNIX routing, but from the details you given I can see
no reason why this is possible. Unless you have another PC that bridges
these two networks.

 Sorry for my english.
You're doing fine...

Cheers

Dg


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Re: [gentoo-user] two subnetworks

2003-10-20 Thread Selentek 24331-03
On 10:30 Mon 20 Oct , David Gethings wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:48, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
  default * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 - I down't know what is this.
 That is you default route. It is the route your PC uses to send traffic
 to your Cisco.
 
  Is it right to ping 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.2 ?
 If you are pinging from the PC that bridges the two netwroks, then yes
 you will be able to ping both networks.
 
  I down't want to see 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.0 network.
 I'm no expert on UNIX routing, but from the details you given I can see
 no reason why this is possible. Unless you have another PC that bridges
 these two networks.
 
  Sorry for my english.
 You're doing fine...
 
 Cheers
 
 Dg
 
 
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One more detail with tcpdump:
sudo tcpdump -f -i eth0 icmp
tcpdump: listening on eth0
13:50:21.969383 5.5.5.2  192.168.1.12: icmp: echo request
13:50:21.969436 192.168.1.12  5.5.5.2: icmp: echo reply




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Re: [gentoo-user] two subnetworks

2003-10-20 Thread David Gethings
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 10:41, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
 On 10:30 Mon 20 Oct , David Gethings wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:48, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
   default * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 - I down't know what is this.
  That is you default route. It is the route your PC uses to send traffic
  to your Cisco.
Sorry. My brain is full of flu. :( The above route could be the cause of
your problem.

 One more detail with tcpdump:
 sudo tcpdump -f -i eth0 icmp
 tcpdump: listening on eth0
 13:50:21.969383 5.5.5.2  192.168.1.12: icmp: echo request
 13:50:21.969436 192.168.1.12  5.5.5.2: icmp: echo reply
Apologies. When I re-read your email I understood your email better.

Cheers

Dg


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Re: [gentoo-user] two subnetworks

2003-10-20 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 20 October 2003 18:41, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
 On 10:30 Mon 20 Oct , David Gethings wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:48, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
   default * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 - I down't know what is this.
 
  That is you default route. It is the route your PC uses to send traffic
  to your Cisco.
 
   Is it right to ping 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.2 ?
 
  If you are pinging from the PC that bridges the two netwroks, then yes
  you will be able to ping both networks.
 
   I down't want to see 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.0 network.
 
  I'm no expert on UNIX routing, but from the details you given I can see
  no reason why this is possible. Unless you have another PC that bridges
  these two networks.
 
   Sorry for my english.
 
  You're doing fine...
 
  Cheers
 
  Dg
 
 
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 One more detail with tcpdump:
 sudo tcpdump -f -i eth0 icmp
 tcpdump: listening on eth0
 13:50:21.969383 5.5.5.2  192.168.1.12: icmp: echo request
 13:50:21.969436 192.168.1.12  5.5.5.2: icmp: echo reply

What's the routing table on 5.5.5.2? If there's no static route to 192.168.1.0 
via 192.168.1.12 and it's not the default gateway then 5.5.5.2 should not 
even send out an arp request. Is the device that is 5.5.5.2's default route 
aware of 192.168.1.12? If so, that could explain why 5.5.5.2 can ping 
192.168.1.12 directly.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] two subnetworks

2003-10-20 Thread Selentek 24331-03
On 18:21 Mon 20 Oct , Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Monday 20 October 2003 18:41, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
  On 10:30 Mon 20 Oct , David Gethings wrote:
   On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:48, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
default * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 - I down't know what is this.
  
   That is you default route. It is the route your PC uses to send traffic
   to your Cisco.
  
Is it right to ping 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.2 ?
  
   If you are pinging from the PC that bridges the two netwroks, then yes
   you will be able to ping both networks.
  
I down't want to see 192.168.1.12 from 5.5.5.0 network.
  
   I'm no expert on UNIX routing, but from the details you given I can see
   no reason why this is possible. Unless you have another PC that bridges
   these two networks.
  
Sorry for my english.
  
   You're doing fine...
  
   Cheers
  
   Dg
  
  
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  One more detail with tcpdump:
  sudo tcpdump -f -i eth0 icmp
  tcpdump: listening on eth0
  13:50:21.969383 5.5.5.2  192.168.1.12: icmp: echo request
  13:50:21.969436 192.168.1.12  5.5.5.2: icmp: echo reply
 
 What's the routing table on 5.5.5.2? If there's no static route to 192.168.1.0 
 via 192.168.1.12 and it's not the default gateway then 5.5.5.2 should not 
 even send out an arp request. Is the device that is 5.5.5.2's default route 
 aware of 192.168.1.12? If so, that could explain why 5.5.5.2 can ping 
 192.168.1.12 directly.
 
 Jason
 
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route on 5.5.5.2
5.5.5.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
loopbacklocalhost   255.0.0.0   UG0  00 lo
default 5.5.5.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

It's very strage for me.
(Ping) Icmp packets to the interface eth1 (192.168.1.12) flying throw eth0 (5.5.5.98).

Is it a normal situation and the solution is iptables ?
or it's a unnormal situation?



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Re: [gentoo-user] two subnetworks

2003-10-20 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 20 October 2003 19:19, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
 On 18:21 Mon 20 Oct , Jason Stubbs wrote:
  On Monday 20 October 2003 18:41, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
   One more detail with tcpdump:
   sudo tcpdump -f -i eth0 icmp
   tcpdump: listening on eth0
   13:50:21.969383 5.5.5.2  192.168.1.12: icmp: echo request
   13:50:21.969436 192.168.1.12  5.5.5.2: icmp: echo reply
 
  What's the routing table on 5.5.5.2? If there's no static route to
  192.168.1.0 via 192.168.1.12 and it's not the default gateway then
  5.5.5.2 should not even send out an arp request. Is the device that is
  5.5.5.2's default route aware of 192.168.1.12? If so, that could explain
  why 5.5.5.2 can ping 192.168.1.12 directly.
 
  Jason

 route on 5.5.5.2
 5.5.5.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth0 loopbacklocalhost   255.0.0.0   UG0  0   
 0 lo default 5.5.5.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  0   
 0 eth0

 It's very strage for me.
 (Ping) Icmp packets to the interface eth1 (192.168.1.12) flying throw eth0
 (5.5.5.98).

 Is it a normal situation and the solution is iptables ?
 or it's a unnormal situation?

So 5.5.5.1 has no route to 192.168.1.12 at all? From all the info you have 
given I can't see why it can ping with no problems unless 5.5.5.98 is in fact 
advertising itself as also being 192.168.1.12. I would suggest running some 
sort of packet sniffing software to find out what's really going on.

Jason

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