Re: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?

2003-06-10 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 09 June 2003 22:13, Andy Arbon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm starting to feel that life in the ~86 lane is a little too fast for
> me at the moment.. I don't have much time due to work and I'd quite like
> to have a slightly more reliable system than Gentoo's testing release
> gives me.
>
> If I change ~86 to 86 in make.conf and do an emerge -u world, will this
> safely roll my machine back to the stable branch? Has anyone done this,
> and are there any reasons it shouldn't work?
>

In light of the other replies, I think the smartest approach is to not 
recompile. Recompilation is dangerous because of library dependencies. The 
safest approach is to set your keywords to x86 and be careful not to 
downgrade things unless they are broken. This especiallly holds for 
libraries.

Paul

ps. You could even just leave the machine alone for a while without updating. 
That should guarantee stability.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?

2003-06-09 Thread Jim Bailey
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 09:13:36PM +0100, Andy Arbon wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> I'm starting to feel that life in the ~86 lane is a little too fast for
> me at the moment.. I don't have much time due to work and I'd quite like
> to have a slightly more reliable system than Gentoo's testing release
> gives me.
> 
> If I change ~86 to 86 in make.conf and do an emerge -u world, will this
> safely roll my machine back to the stable branch? Has anyone done this,
> and are there any reasons it shouldn't work?

I have toasted my glibc and you may too, is raised as bug 22017.

Peace Jim

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Re: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?

2003-06-09 Thread Kirtis Bakalarczyk
On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 22:37:12 +0200
Christian Aust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Am Mo, 2003-06-09 um 22.13 schrieb Andy Arbon:
> > If I change ~86 to 86 in make.conf and do an emerge -u world, will this
> > safely roll my machine back to the stable branch? Has anyone done this,
> > and are there any reasons it shouldn't work?
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> I've done that, using "emerge -e world" which eventually recompiled
> everything. It took forever... If compilation failes at some point, you
> can restart it using "emerge --resume". Have fun,

Beware emerge -e!  It failed on me and I couldn't re-run emerge because the libraries 
required to run python (which emerge needs) were missing!  
I ended up installing from scratch.. which is what I was going for anyway, but it 
would have been nice to automate the process.

Just a warning.

KIRT


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RE: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?

2003-06-09 Thread Rex Young

>so would I, have never tried though, and I guess that some 
>thing could've been 
>compiled against libraries that would be downgraded...


hmmm...the libraries are a good point.  I don't know nearly
enough to say that he'd have no problem.  I've only used a few
specific packages not marked as tested/stable.  

-rex

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Re: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?

2003-06-09 Thread Tom Wesley
On Monday 09 June 2003 21:58, Rex Young wrote:
> >Am Mo, 2003-06-09 um 22.13 schrieb Andy Arbon:
> >> If I change ~86 to 86 in make.conf and do an emerge -u
> >
> >world, will this
> >
> >> safely roll my machine back to the stable branch? Has anyone
> >
> >done this,
> >
> >> and are there any reasons it shouldn't work?
> >
> >Hi Andy,
> >
> >I've done that, using "emerge -e world" which eventually recompiled
> >everything. It took forever... If compilation failes at some point, you
> >can restart it using "emerge --resume". Have fun,
> >
> >-  Christian
>
> Is "emerge -e world" really necessary?  I would think that "emerge -u
> world" would downgrade the packages which should be.
>
so would I, have never tried though, and I guess that some thing could've been 
compiled against libraries that would be downgraded...

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RE: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?

2003-06-09 Thread Rex Young

>Am Mo, 2003-06-09 um 22.13 schrieb Andy Arbon:
>> If I change ~86 to 86 in make.conf and do an emerge -u 
>world, will this
>> safely roll my machine back to the stable branch? Has anyone 
>done this,
>> and are there any reasons it shouldn't work?
>
>Hi Andy,
>
>I've done that, using "emerge -e world" which eventually recompiled
>everything. It took forever... If compilation failes at some point, you
>can restart it using "emerge --resume". Have fun,
>
>-  Christian

Is "emerge -e world" really necessary?  I would think that "emerge -u world"
would downgrade the packages which should be.

-rex

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Re: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?

2003-06-09 Thread Christian Aust
Am Mo, 2003-06-09 um 22.13 schrieb Andy Arbon:
> If I change ~86 to 86 in make.conf and do an emerge -u world, will this
> safely roll my machine back to the stable branch? Has anyone done this,
> and are there any reasons it shouldn't work?

Hi Andy,

I've done that, using "emerge -e world" which eventually recompiled
everything. It took forever... If compilation failes at some point, you
can restart it using "emerge --resume". Have fun,

-  Christian

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