RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-24 Thread Brenden Walker
> -Original Message-
> From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on 
> linc package?
> 
> 
> begin  quote
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:03:50 -0500
> Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Yeah, I think I've got most everything under control now..
> 
> Good. :)
>  
> > 
> > > the solutions are either to leave linc and forget about it,
> > > or start to rebuild things.  
> > 
> > I prefer the latter, now that I know the proper method this should 
> > prove to be much easier in the future.
> 
> 
> Yeah, its always nice to learn how things hang together.. Too 
> bad this bit you, as that was what we have struggled to avoid 
> (I take the rather lack of theese kinds of posts as a sign 
> that we have succeeded for most
> users)

Agreed, I went looking for answers on forums.gentoo.org, newsgroups, etc..
And it seems that nobody had this problem.  Perhaps I did a depclean or
something at the wrong time ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:03:50 -0500
Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Yeah, I think I've got most everything under control now..  

Good. :)
 
> 
> > the solutions are either to leave linc and forget about it, 
> > or start to rebuild things.  
> 
> I prefer the latter, now that I know the proper method this should
> prove to be much easier in the future.


Yeah, its always nice to learn how things hang together.. Too bad this
bit you, as that was what we have struggled to avoid (I take the rather
lack of theese kinds of posts as a sign that we have succeeded for most
users)


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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Brenden Walker
> -Original Message-
> From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


> Yep.  I'd start with bonobo 

Yeah, I think I've got most everything under control now..  



> the solutions are either to leave linc and forget about it, 
> or start to
> rebuild things.  

I prefer the latter, now that I know the proper method this should prove to
be much easier in the future.

Thanks again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:27:07 -0500
Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Figures ;-)
> 
> > its a dependency of evolution, not evolution itself.
> > 
> > To find the package in question :
> > grep "liblinc" -r /usr/lib
> 
> Never woulda thought to grep libs.. sheesh.. all these years..
> 
> Turns out it was a bunch so far: libbonobo, libgtkhtml, gal,
> gnome-pilot
> 
> When I tried to rebuild libgtkhtml it crashed with a similar error
> (missing liblinc.so), so I'm guessing that's simply that I need to fix
> something else first.. ie fix all these libs in the right order.

Yep.  I'd start with bonobo 


 
> Thanks, what I'm really wondering about is how in the heck did it get
> this way.

thats simple. 
once, ORBit2 depended on linc.
then, ORBit2 took in linc, and changed the interfaces to not collide,
and then never linked to linc again.

after that, all things that had been playing with linc, found themselves
with a dependency they didn't -need- because its already in ORBit2, and
the package was stale and left to die in peace.

however, some people dislike having a rotting package on their system,
and remove them, then the things that haven't been rebuilt against the
new ways will realize "uh oh, I miss something" and complain.. .and this
error propagates up to things like evilution.


the solutions are either to leave linc and forget about it, or start to
rebuild things.  


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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Brenden Walker
> -Original Message-
> From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> begin  quote
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:54:03 -0500
> Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Well, here's the last bit of my most recent emerge attempt 
> (just after
> > an emerge sync to make sure).  Looks like a broken package 
> to me, but
> > I could be wrong.
> 
> The latter.

Figures ;-)

> its a dependency of evolution, not evolution itself.
> 
> To find the package in question :
> grep "liblinc" -r /usr/lib

Never woulda thought to grep libs.. sheesh.. all these years..

Turns out it was a bunch so far: libbonobo, libgtkhtml, gal, gnome-pilot

When I tried to rebuild libgtkhtml it crashed with a similar error (missing
liblinc.so), so I'm guessing that's simply that I need to fix something else
first.. ie fix all these libs in the right order.

Thanks, what I'm really wondering about is how in the heck did it get this
way.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:54:03 -0500
Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Well, here's the last bit of my most recent emerge attempt (just after
> an emerge sync to make sure).  Looks like a broken package to me, but
> I could be wrong.

The latter.



 
> Any thoughts graciously accepted ;-)

here, lets go through this :


> grep: /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory
> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory



Theese two lines are interesting, very so. They mean that a file in your
system is still referencing to "linc" (as stated in my previous
messages)


its a dependency of evolution, not evolution itself.

To find the package in question :
grep "liblinc" -r /usr/lib


Then go ahead and use qpkg -f  , to find the files that reference to it,
and rebuild those.  Then linc and all traces thereof will be earased
from your system.


Alternatingly, if you want to spend less work, but more time on it:
emerge -e evolution
   just rebuild all its deps in order and get it done with.. . I  don't
recommend it at all, but its an option.



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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-21 Thread Brenden Walker
> -Original Message-
> From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > 
> 
> linc is a deprecated package that has been silently left off the
> dependency list of all updated software.
> 
> Most likely you've run depclean or something like that, and 
> this caused
> a in-between library that needs linc to break.  if you are very very
> goddarn certain its evolution, simply re-emerging evolution 
> will relink
> it without linc, but as far as I remember theres no dependency on linc
> there.
> 
> What needs to be done is finding the single library that 
> evolution links
> to that has the unsatisfied dependency on linc, and rebuild it.
> 
> Strange that revdep-rebuild hasn't caught it. (try removing old revdep
> tempfiles)


Well, here's the last bit of my most recent emerge attempt (just after an
emerge sync to make sure).  Looks like a broken package to me, but I could
be wrong.

Any thoughts graciously accepted ;-)

Making all in e-util
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make  all-recursive
make[3]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
Making all in .
make[4]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -mcpu=athlon -O2  -pipe -Wall -Wunused
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations-o libeutil.la -rpath
/usr/lib/evolution/1.4   e-account-list.lo e-account.lo
e-categories-config.lo e-categories-master-list-wombat.lo
e-component-listener.lo e-config-listener.lo e-corba-utils.lo
e-dialog-utils.lo e-dialog-widgets.lo e-gtk-utils.lo e-gui-utils.lo
e-host-utils.lo e-html-utils.lo e-iterator.lo e-lang-utils.lo
e-list-iterator.lo e-list.lo e-memory.lo e-meta.lo e-mktemp.lo e-msgport.lo
e-passwords.lo e-path.lo e-proxy.lo e-request.lo e-sexp.lo e-time-utils.lo
e-trie.lo e-url.lo e-util-marshal.lo e-xml-hash-utils.lo md5-utils.lo
-pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgal-2.0 -lgal-a11y-2.0
-lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lxml2
-lpthread -lz -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lbonobo-2 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2
-lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lart_lgpl_2
-lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm
-lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl
-lsoup-2.0 -lglib-2.0   -lpthread -L/usr/lib -ldl -lplc4 -lplds4 -lnspr4
-lpthread
grep: /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/liblinc.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [libeutil.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: net-mail/evolution-1.4.5 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 173, Exitcode 2
!!! make failed

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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-21 Thread Brenden Walker


> -Original Message-
> From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on 
> linc package?
> 
> 
> begin  quote
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500
> Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks 
> now (don't 
> > recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried 
> > again. Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> > 
> 
> linc is a deprecated package that has been silently left off 
> the dependency list of all updated software.
> 
> Most likely you've run depclean or something like that, and 
> this caused a in-between library that needs linc to break.  
> if you are very very goddarn certain its evolution, simply 
> re-emerging evolution will relink it without linc, but as far 
> as I remember theres no dependency on linc there.

I've remerged Evolution several times, all with the same result.

> What needs to be done is finding the single library that 
> evolution links to that has the unsatisfied dependency on 
> linc, and rebuild it.

I'll see if I can find anything out about that..

> Strange that revdep-rebuild hasn't caught it. (try removing old revdep
> tempfiles)

I remove old revdep files after any run of revdep-rebuild.  Tried it several
times with no luck.  After a emerge -Udv world I managed to get
revdep-rebuild to actually rebuild Evolution... But when I try to execute it
still tries to load liblinc

I'll remove Linc and investigate further, thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-21 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500
Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't
> recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried
> again.
> Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> 

linc is a deprecated package that has been silently left off the
dependency list of all updated software.

Most likely you've run depclean or something like that, and this caused
a in-between library that needs linc to break.  if you are very very
goddarn certain its evolution, simply re-emerging evolution will relink
it without linc, but as far as I remember theres no dependency on linc
there.



What needs to be done is finding the single library that evolution links
to that has the unsatisfied dependency on linc, and rebuild it.


Strange that revdep-rebuild hasn't caught it. (try removing old revdep
tempfiles)

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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-21 Thread Brenden Walker
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Mushi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Are u in the x86 "stable" or "unstable" stream? Cos I had 
> been using evolution for a long time and then began to 
> upgrade my Gnome to 2.4...I took the chance to upgrade a 
> whole load of other "critical" packages on my 
> system as well and because I staggered the whole emerge world 
> upgrade there was a period which evolution didn;t work at all 
> and my whole Gnome was stuck in limbo with some 2.2 and 2.4 
> libraries (I had autoclean off...but that;s another story) 
> but all was good once I cleaned out all the 2.2 stuff

Stable only, and I run KDE so I've only got necessary parts of Gnome
installed..  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-21 Thread Simon Mushi
Hi,


Are u in the x86 "stable" or "unstable" stream? Cos I had been using
evolution for a long time and then began to upgrade my Gnome to 2.4...I
took the chance to upgrade a whole load of other "critical" packages on my 
system as well and because I staggered the whole emerge world upgrade
there was a period which evolution didn;t work at all and my whole Gnome
was stuck in limbo with some 2.2 and 2.4 libraries (I had autoclean
off...but that;s another story) but all was good
once I cleaned out all the 2.2 stuff

Simon 

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Brenden Walker wrote:

> I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't
> recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried again.
> Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> 
> Tried --deep, revdep-rebuild, cleared package cache No luck.
> 
> A big of investigation, and found liblinc.so is in the linc package.
> Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well.
> 
> Is this just something that was missed?  Or did my package tree somehow get
> messed up?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-21 Thread Brenden Walker
> -Original Message-
> From: Collins Richey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Brenden Walker 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 


> package. 
> > Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well.
> > 
> > Is this just something that was missed?  Or did my package tree 
> > somehow get messed up?
> 
> check bugzilla and if not found open a bug.  Thee should be 
> no mystery dependancies for an ebuild.

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.  I have a feeling
that some other commonly installed package must be installing linc for other
users..  Haven't heard a peep about this from anyone else, which led me to
believe it might be my problem ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-21 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't
> recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried again.
> Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> 
> Tried --deep, revdep-rebuild, cleared package cache No luck.
> 
> A big of investigation, and found liblinc.so is in the linc package.
> Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well.
> 
> Is this just something that was missed?  Or did my package tree somehow get
> messed up?

check bugzilla and if not found open a bug.  Thee should be no mystery
dependancies for an ebuild.


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