RE: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
1) emerge gentoolkit qpkg does that Note, that in debian, apt-* doesn't show what packages are installed, you need to query dpkg. Also, apt-* are front-ends to dpkg and its many tools. emerge info in gentoo currently reports Portage configuration information. 2) Gentoo network installation (PXE) HOWTO http://www.menteb.org/docs.php?doc=pxe I don't have enough extra boxes laying around to try out the network install, but I have faith in the author of that how to that it works :) -Original Message- From: Dan Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement Some suggestions: 1. emerge is missing one key function -- I say key, because we can't consider deploying Gentoo as the OS of choice for x86 servers unless it has this feature: the ability to see what ebuilds were installed on the system and what version they are. Package management is extremely important to us in the server arena because it represents the bulk of our long-term maintenance for both by hand and with our extensive automated tools which figures out what stuff to install based on what currently is installed. Currently, the argument is to use Debian instead of Gentoo because of missing bits related to package management such as this. I suck at coding or I'd contribute something, but I could take a shot at it. Perhaps consider a command such as 'emerge info' to list one-liners listing all installed ebuilds and their versions? And 'emerge info specific ebuild' to view info for a specific ebuild. And some sort of wildcard support such as 'emerge info foo*' to return info about all installed ebuilds matching the wildcard pattern. For the most part, I think you've already got code in emerge to figure out what ebuilds are installed and at what version... could adapt it to also be used for an 'emerge info' function. 2. The only other thing we're missing with Gentoo is a network boot/install server -- we already have AIX's NIM, Solaris's Jumpstart, RedHat's KickStart. Even Windows and MacOS has something. :) With the number of sites and servers we run, this is a crucial bit of functionality. Since that functionality is generally generic -- support tftp, etc. ...it sounds theoretically simple to support this one way or another. I wonder if RedHat's KickStart stuff could be ported to Gentoo? I hesitate to suggest this, but I'm also hesitant to suggest something that would chew up developers' time by doing something from scratch. Gentoo's got a firm hold on the desktop... and getting there with the hardened project for the high security stuff... but could get a bigger chunk of the servers. -Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
On Saturday 12 Jul 2003 22:13, Dan Foster wrote: 1. emerge is missing one key function -- I say key, because we can't consider deploying Gentoo as the OS of choice for x86 servers unless it has this feature: the ability to see what ebuilds were installed on the system and what version they are. Look in /var/log/portage/ and /var/log/emerge.log Package management is extremely important to us in the server arena because it represents the bulk of our long-term maintenance for both by hand and with our extensive automated tools which figures out what stuff to install based on what currently is installed. Currently, the argument is to use Debian instead of Gentoo because of missing bits related to package management such as this. I suck at coding or I'd contribute something, but I could take a shot at it. Loads of stuff for doing that. emerge gentoolkit and epm. Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.8p1 kernel-2.4.22_pre2-gss i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
Hot Diggety! Bjorn Sodergren was rumored to have written: 1) emerge gentoolkit qpkg does that Ah! Very nice. Just emerge'd it... qpkg -I -v looks to be a winner. Note, that in debian, apt-* doesn't show what packages are installed, you need to query dpkg. Also, apt-* are front-ends to dpkg and its many tools. emerge info in gentoo currently reports Portage configuration information. Makes sense. I see it now. 2) Gentoo network installation (PXE) HOWTO http://www.menteb.org/docs.php?doc=pxe I don't have enough extra boxes laying around to try out the network install, but I have faith in the author of that how to that it works :) Cool! I'll give it a try. Thanks for the update/corrections :) -Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
Cool! I'll give it a try. Thanks for the update/corrections :) Hey, Us gentoo users, we rock like that :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
Hi, qpkg to show the installed packages has already be mentioned, I just want to add that emerge search supports regular expressions and will also report the installed and available versions for all packages that match the given expression. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
begin quote On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:13:38 + Dan Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some suggestions: 1. the ability to see what ebuilds were installed on the system and what version they are. You already got the solutions of qpkg and emerge.log from others, let me come here with some more :) etcat (recent tool that people have been getting more hots for ;) epm rpm command like abilities, for us who are used to rpm based machines as well as manual handling, look inside /var/db/pkg . Its wonderful how much information you can gain and use with some simple shellscripting. (grep is good, grep is the way... ) Glad you found our work useful //Spider irate developer -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
