Re: [gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices
On Sunday 26 February 2006 00:14, "Nick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices': > > > also, what if it detects a drive as sda, and i want it to be sdb? is > > > there a way i can tell it what i want to be sda, sda etc? without > > > actually having to move the drives around? > > > > Write udev rules to create persistent device names. > > its actually running a 2.4 kernel on sparc, and i dont think they use > udev, i think they are still on devfs. IIRC. is udev the only way to > accomplish this? Yes, which is one of the main reasons users and distributions wanted to get away from devfs. devfs always uses the kernel name for the device, which depends on the order the devices are detected, which depends on module loading order and physical device arrangement. With sysfs around it would be possible to find out the kernel name of a device based on persistent attributes which intelligent find and grep-ing. That would be a "pull" way of doing what udev does in a "push" way. In this case, it's fairly clear (to me, I suppose this could be just my opinion) that the push way is more efficient and less-error prone. Depending on you exact needs, you may be able to use UUIDs and filesystem labels, instead of persistent device nodes. Recent versions of mount will scan for either [including when invoked based on fstab], LVM, EVMS, and mdadm use UUIDs rather than device names. The mini-tool findfs, provided on my system by e2fsprogs (weird), is able to map either to a device name (despite the package that provides it, it does successfully find my reiser filesystems on LVM by either). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices
On 2/25/06, Nick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > its actually running a 2.4 kernel on sparc, and i dont think they use > udev, i think they are still on devfs. IIRC. is udev the only way to > accomplish this? Well, for hotplug, I'm not sure. It has been too long since I ran a 2.4 kernel. There are _massive_ improvements in hotplug support in 2.6 over 2.4. For persistent device names, udev is the only way. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices
On Saturday 25 February 2006 23:51, "Richard Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices': > On 2/25/06, Nick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is there a way to rescan for devices after bootup? like if i > > hot-plugged a scsi drive into the machine after it was already > > running? how can i re-detect the hardware? > > If you are using udev, and have configured the kernel for hotplug > support, this should not be necessary. The kernel will generate the > appropriate hotplug events, and udev will create the device nodes. Not quite. SCSI (and possibly SATA, since it works though the SCSI interface in the kernel [1]) require an extra step when hotplugging, to scan a particular LUN: echo 'add-single-device ' > /proc/scsi/scsi You'll also have to use 'remove-single-device' w/ the same syntax to remove the device node for a scsi device that has been removed. These commands will cause the necessary events to get sent to udev (or devfsd if you are still running that). They are definitely not needed (nor should they be used) for buses that support new device notification, like USB or FireWire (tm). [2] Finally, in kernels at least as recent as 2.6.16-rc1, attempting to add a device with the same chain, target, id, and lun as a device that has been removed will fail and generate some weird dmesg noise. It won't panic or corrupt the kernel (or subsystem or even module), put it does put some practical limit on how much scsi hotplugging you can do before needed to reboot. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy [1] and [2]: All of this comes from my experience with SATA drives, but they are going through a hw raid controller that may be simply exposing SCSI devices, not SATA devices. If SATA does have some sort of "device notification", I'll bet the SCSI "dance" doesn't have to be done -- but it my case it does. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices
On 2/26/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/25/06, Nick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > is there a way to rescan for devices after bootup? like if i
> > hot-plugged a scsi drive into the machine after it was already
> > running? how can i re-detect the hardware?
>
> If you are using udev, and have configured the kernel for hotplug
> support, this should not be necessary. The kernel will generate the
> appropriate hotplug events, and udev will create the device nodes.
>
> >
> > also, what if it detects a drive as sda, and i want it to be sdb? is
> > there a way i can tell it what i want to be sda, sda etc? without
> > actually having to move the drives around?
>
> Write udev rules to create persistent device names.
>
> An example:
> BUS=="usb", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]2", SYSFS{serial}=="30005AF6",
> SYMLINK="%k", NAME="backups%e"
>
> -Richard
>
> --
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>
>
its actually running a 2.4 kernel on sparc, and i dont think they use
udev, i think they are still on devfs. IIRC. is udev the only way to
accomplish this?
Nick
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
On 2/25/06, Bruce Burden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Okay, I have decided to use the xorg DRM module. However, I am >still doing something wrong: > > BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]" The opensource xorg/kernel drivers do not support DRI with this chip. You can verify that by looking at the vendor/product ID with lspci, and then comparing with the table in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices
On 2/25/06, Nick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is there a way to rescan for devices after bootup? like if i
> hot-plugged a scsi drive into the machine after it was already
> running? how can i re-detect the hardware?
If you are using udev, and have configured the kernel for hotplug
support, this should not be necessary. The kernel will generate the
appropriate hotplug events, and udev will create the device nodes.
>
> also, what if it detects a drive as sda, and i want it to be sdb? is
> there a way i can tell it what i want to be sda, sda etc? without
> actually having to move the drives around?
Write udev rules to create persistent device names.
An example:
BUS=="usb", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]2", SYSFS{serial}=="30005AF6",
SYMLINK="%k", NAME="backups%e"
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?
On Saturday 25 February 2006 17:47, Mariusz Pękala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?': > On 2006-02-25 13:34:28 -0600 (Sat, Feb), Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > > So, betas shouldn't ever be ~arch? Or is your definition of > > > > stable broad enough to include betas? > > > > > > Entirely dependent on the upstream. I've had Vim beta releases in > > > ~arch, for example, because I'm confident in upstream's ability to > > > do beta releases without screwing up. > > > > So, it's based on the collective opinion of the gentoo developers? > > Wouldn't it be better to put that in the hands of the gentoo user? > > IMHO it already is. It's called PORTAGE_OVERLAY. Again, hard to do automatically. Wheras, if I could just set ACCEPT_UPSTREAM="BETA" I'd get all the betas. Or I could use package.upstream and but in "kde-extra/kaffeine ALPHA" and get anything assigned more than a snapshot number for that package. (Instead of manually checking after each sync to see if there's a new, masked version.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
On Sunday 26 February 2006 05:02, Bruce Burden wrote: >Okay, I have decided to use the xorg DRM module. However, I am >still doing something wrong: First of all did you follow the guide at http://www.gentoolinux.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml ? Or any other guide? Assuming you used the guided above: 1) Could you post the output of: zcat /proc/config.gz | grep 'MTRR\|AGP\|DRM' 2) What version of x11-drm are you using? Did you set VIDEO_CARDS="ati" in make.conf (or on the command line while emerge x11-drm)? BTW what version of xorg-x11? 3) What does the Module section of your xorg.conf look like? > I have: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "X600" > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > EndSection > > for the xorg.conf entry. Should it be "ati"? No. > # lsmod > Module Size Used by > radeon 98464 0 > drm61592 1 radeon > intel_agp 18332 1 > agpgart27216 2 drm,intel_agp [SNIP] Looks all right. -- Bo Andresen
Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
Okay, I have decided to use the xorg DRM module. However, I am still doing something wrong: name of display: tigerprowl:0.0 Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". display: tigerprowl:0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: I am not sure what this means, however, as: (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER The Xorg.0.log file shows what seems to be the appropriate DRI module being loaded. I have: Section "Device" Identifier "X600" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection for the xorg.conf entry. Should it be "ati"? # lsmod Module Size Used by radeon 98464 0 drm61592 1 radeon intel_agp 18332 1 agpgart27216 2 drm,intel_agp bluetooth 39652 0 libcrc32c 2816 0 crc_ccitt 2176 0 I assume intel_agp is appropriate for the 915 chipset? Thank you, Bruce -- "I like bad!" Bruce BurdenAustin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups is broken
On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:12, a tiny voice compelled John Blinka to write: > Ernie Schroder wrote: > >Make sure that you have the file: > > > >/usr/share/cups/docs/index.html > > > >and that it opens as a webpage in a browser Of course I'm assuming that > > other html pages display properly. > > It's there. In fact, that's the file that's being displayed improperly. > Its contents are identical to the same file on other systems I own > which display correctly, so that's not the problem. And all other > html pages display correctly. So... > > 1) the problem is not the contents, permissions, or presence > of the file - they're all identical to other systems in which > the file displays properly. In fact, the file displays > properly (almost) if I access it as > file:///usr/share/cups/docs/index.html instead of > http://localhost:631 > 2) the problem is not specific to a browser - the same behavior > occurs with Firefox and Konqueror. > 3) the problem is not html per se - all other html pages display > properly. > 4) if I stop cupsd, then the browser claims that the request > for http://localhost:631 is refused. > > The evidence suggests to me that there's something unfortunate > happening with whatever occurs when I supply http://localhost:631 > to the browser. cupsd is the agent listening at port 631 and it's > the source of the error. I'm guessing that when cupsd supplies the > contents of /usr/share/cups/docs/index.html to the browser, the browser > doesn't realize that it's receiving html and so renders it as raw text. > > John Very strange Have you looked at the logs? /var/log/cups/access_log and /var/log/cups/error_log look at a tail of them and compare to the working machines. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 12:55:05PM +, Peter Ruskin wrote: > http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087&highlight=filepicker+kde > Thank you, thank you, thank you - just what I wanted festus -- I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer gods than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ...Stephen F Roberts pgp97KvSCY6zZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Acroread 7.0.5-r1 very slow startup
Mark Loeser wrote: Urs Schuetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Can anybody conirm this slow startup, or is it just me? Any hints how to speed up acrobat reader 7.0.5-r1? I noticed the same thing. There is a bug open about it on bugs.gentoo.org I believe, but the workaround for now is: mv ~/.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache/UnixFnt07.lst ~/.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache/UnixFnt.old touch ~/.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache/UnixFnt07.lst That worked for me atleast. Works for me too. Thanks Mark. Greg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Acroread 7.0.5-r1 very slow startup
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 08:35:44PM -0300, Penguin Lover Urs Schuetz squawked:
> strace acroread
> shows that acroread 7.0.5-r1 uses a very long time with fonts
> and nonexistent directories like /usr/psres and
> /usr/share/fonts/afms//usr/share/fonts/afms:
>
> ...
> open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fences.ttf",
> O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 ENOTDIR (Not a directory)
> open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/l048013t.pfa",
> O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 ENOTDIR (Not a directory)
> getdents64(5, /* 0 entries */, 4096)= 0
> close(5)= 0
> ...
>
> and "hangs" here for about 10 seconds, with CPU 100% used. This
> happens nine times during startup.
>
from the forums:
http://forums.gentoo.org//viewtopic-t-420754-highlight-acroread.html?sid=5118566558bdce7510b095567e7b6d4c
the file ~/.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache/UnixFnt07.lst stores a list of all
the fonts on your system (which, in my case, gives 9387 entries) and
apparently it tries to open those one by one on startup and look
inside (what for, I don't know).
A temporary work around is provide in the link above, which amounts to
removing that font file prior to starting acroread. If I do that,
acroread starts under 5 seconds for every one of the five times I
tried.
Notice that /usr/bin/acroread is just a batch file to launch the
executable, so if you are adventurous, you can go dig inside it a bit.
W
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Re: [gentoo-user] Acroread 7.0.5-r1 very slow startup
Urs Schuetz wrote: Acroread startup is very slow on my gentoo sistem. It takes more than 2 minutes to start acrobat on my old AMD Duron 800 MHz. Also on further startups the load time stays more or less the same. I can confirm the same behavior on my system. 800 MHz hyperthreaded P4, and top shows that one of the cores hits 100% while acroread is starting up. It takes nearly three minutes to load, and strace shows it hanging at the same places. I'll probably go back to 7.0.1.1. Greg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Acroread 7.0.5-r1 very slow startup
Urs Schuetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Can anybody conirm this slow startup, or is it just me? Any hints > how to speed up acrobat reader 7.0.5-r1? I noticed the same thing. There is a bug open about it on bugs.gentoo.org I believe, but the workaround for now is: mv ~/.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache/UnixFnt07.lst ~/.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache/UnixFnt.old touch ~/.adobe/Acrobat/7.0/Cache/UnixFnt07.lst That worked for me atleast. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpG0ro05Ezvp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] cups is broken
Ernie Schroder wrote: Make sure that you have the file: /usr/share/cups/docs/index.html and that it opens as a webpage in a browser Of course I'm assuming that other html pages display properly. It's there. In fact, that's the file that's being displayed improperly. Its contents are identical to the same file on other systems I own which display correctly, so that's not the problem. And all other html pages display correctly. So... 1) the problem is not the contents, permissions, or presence of the file - they're all identical to other systems in which the file displays properly. In fact, the file displays properly (almost) if I access it as file:///usr/share/cups/docs/index.html instead of http://localhost:631 2) the problem is not specific to a browser - the same behavior occurs with Firefox and Konqueror. 3) the problem is not html per se - all other html pages display properly. 4) if I stop cupsd, then the browser claims that the request for http://localhost:631 is refused. The evidence suggests to me that there's something unfortunate happening with whatever occurs when I supply http://localhost:631 to the browser. cupsd is the agent listening at port 631 and it's the source of the error. I'm guessing that when cupsd supplies the contents of /usr/share/cups/docs/index.html to the browser, the browser doesn't realize that it's receiving html and so renders it as raw text. John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Acroread 7.0.5-r1 very slow startup
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 08:35:44PM -0300, Penguin Lover Urs Schuetz squawked: > Can anybody conirm this slow startup, or is it just me? Any hints > how to speed up acrobat reader 7.0.5-r1? > I can confirm. It took two and a half minutes now on my box (P4 2GHz, 512M ram). It does feel slower than the older version. W -- Engineers also speak PDE, but in a different dialect. ~Terrence Tao Sortir en Pantoufles: up 105 days, 16:34 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wierd messages in syslog
On 2006-02-24 16:23:03 -0500 (Fri, Feb), Nick Smith wrote: > i keep getting these errors in my syslog, has been happening ever > since the install (couple days ago) > > what does it mean, and how can i fix it? > > init: Id "s0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes > > what is "s0"? > > this is a sparc system if that makes a difference. How does your /etc/inittab file looks like? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by "grep -i virus $MESSAGE" Trust me. pgpCwnVzHsk7Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] tracking the life of an email.
On 2006-02-24 17:03:24 -0500 (Fri, Feb), Nick Smith wrote: > for some reason qmail spreads things out into 3 or 4 or 5 different > log files, one for sent, smtp, pop, imap etc, its a real pain to go > through those files, i dont know if its qmail or syslog-ng thats doing > it, but ive been wanting to find a way to combine all those logs into > one mail.log file for easy grepping. Something like: tail -F /var/log/qmail/qmail-*/current >> /var/log/qmail-all would be Okay? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by "grep -i virus $MESSAGE" Trust me. pgp96kHcAme3b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Acroread 7.0.5-r1 very slow startup
I can. It takes ~40 second at P4 2.4. Acroread isn't open source, so, instead of filing any bug, I switched to kpdf :-) === On Sunday 26 February 2006 02:35, Urs Schuetz wrote: === ... Can anybody conirm this slow startup, or is it just me? Any hints how to speed up acrobat reader 7.0.5-r1? Urs -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?
On 2006-02-25 13:34:28 -0600 (Sat, Feb), Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > So, betas shouldn't ever be ~arch? Or is your definition of stable > > > broad enough to include betas? > > > > Entirely dependent on the upstream. I've had Vim beta releases in > > ~arch, for example, because I'm confident in upstream's ability to do > > beta releases without screwing up. > > So, it's based on the collective opinion of the gentoo developers? > Wouldn't it be better to put that in the hands of the gentoo user? IMHO it already is. It's called PORTAGE_OVERLAY. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by "grep -i virus $MESSAGE" Trust me. pgpsUzjzY3U8t.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Acroread 7.0.5-r1 very slow startup
Acroread startup is very slow on my gentoo sistem. It takes more
than 2 minutes to start acrobat on my old AMD Duron 800 MHz. Also
on further startups the load time stays more or less the same.
The CPU is 100% used during most of the startup period, which is
strange. Top shows CPU usage of 75-98% for acroread during
startup.
I have this long startup time only since upgrade to version
7.0.5-r1. The older version 7.0.1.1 loaded within 15 seconds
first load, and within 5 seconds on further loads.
ldd /opt/Acrobat7/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread showed a problem
with the library path. So I added
/opt/Acrobat7/Reader/intellinux/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
I also moved plugins in
/opt/Acrobat7/Reader/intellinux/plug_in
to
/opt/Acrobat7/Reader/intellinux/plug_in_DO_NOT_LOAD_THEM,
and moved
/opt/Acrobat7/Reader/intellinux/SPPlugins/ADMPlugin.apl
to
/opt/Acrobat7/Reader/intellinux/plug_in_DO_NOT_LOAD_THEM.
But the startup time on version 7.0.5-r1 of acrobat reader is
still more than 2 minutes.
strace acroread
shows that acroread 7.0.5-r1 uses a very long time with fonts
and nonexistent directories like /usr/psres and
/usr/share/fonts/afms//usr/share/fonts/afms:
...
open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fences.ttf",
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 ENOTDIR (Not a directory)
open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/l048013t.pfa",
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 ENOTDIR (Not a directory)
getdents64(5, /* 0 entries */, 4096)= 0
close(5)= 0
...
and "hangs" here for about 10 seconds, with CPU 100% used. This
happens nine times during startup.
I don't see any network activity during startup of acroread
(blocked with:
iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp -m owner --cmd-owner acroread -j REJECT
--reject-with tcp-reset)
Sorry for the long lines.
Can anybody conirm this slow startup, or is it just me? Any hints
how to speed up acrobat reader 7.0.5-r1?
Urs
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups is broken
On Saturday 25 February 2006 14:25, John Blinka wrote: > Hi, all, > > I have a strange-to-me cups printing problem on one of my gentoo machines. > When I point firefox at http://localhost:631, I don't see the > familiar cups admin web page, but just the raw html, i.e., > CUPS problems... surprise, surprise... I finally found the true answer to fixing CUPS problems... I boned up on LPRNG and dumped CUPS like a hot potato. Maybe you should too. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] kmail acting up. Cannot "LIST"
Hello all, kmail has spontaneously decided to break on me. I say this because I have changed _nothing_ between when it worked and when it broke. The problem comes when I try to retrieve mail from my pop3 server (vs-pop3d). It can connect to the server, but craps out with "Cannot complete LIST command" in a pop-up. The titlebar states "invalid server response". I can say though, the server is just fine. I can connect, authenticate and view/retrieve mail manually with telnet (including 'LIST' command), and 'mail' on my apple box can get the mail (the same mail, by the same user) just fine. A google for the errror just returned some source code from online CVS. I even re-emerged kdepim but still the same. kmail version is 3.5.1 Has anyone some idea what to do? -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpYZBDqQI5dN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] cups is broken
On Saturday 25 February 2006 16:22, a tiny voice compelled John Blinka to write: > Ernie Schroder wrote: > >On Saturday 25 February 2006 14:25, a tiny voice compelled John Blinka to > > > >write: > >>Does anyone know what's wrong? None of my other machines does this. > >> > >>Thanks for your help. > > > >Have you tried a different browser? Try restarting cupsd > > > ># /etc/init.d/cupsd restart > > Same thing happens using either Konqueror or Firefox on this machine. > Doesn't happen with either browser on other machines I've set up. > Restarting cupsd has no effect. > > John Make sure that you have the file: /usr/share/cups/docs/index.html and that it opens as a webpage in a browser Of course I'm assuming that other html pages display properly. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness
On Sunday 26 February 2006 01:55, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > See > http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087&highlight=filepicker+kde nice site. opens up a few posibilities too. :) -- Every absurdity has a champion to defend it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups is broken
Ernie Schroder wrote: On Saturday 25 February 2006 14:25, a tiny voice compelled John Blinka to write: Does anyone know what's wrong? None of my other machines does this. Thanks for your help. Have you tried a different browser? Try restarting cupsd # /etc/init.d/cupsd restart Same thing happens using either Konqueror or Firefox on this machine. Doesn't happen with either browser on other machines I've set up. Restarting cupsd has no effect. John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild.
Thanks. That worked. David On Saturday 25 February 2006 12:31 pm, Max Lorenz wrote: > Hi, > > On 2/25/06, David Corbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > trombone dcorbin # emerge -uav portage > > > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > > > Calculating dependencies -!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an > > ebuild. > > !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/libintl-0) > > -- > > > > Is there someone way I can work around this? I don't seem to be able to > > emerge anything. > > Your portage is too old, see bug #114798. Try it without the -u, i.e.: > # emerge -av portage > and then sync again. > > > David > > HTH, > Max -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups is broken
On Saturday 25 February 2006 14:25, a tiny voice compelled John Blinka to write: > Does anyone know what's wrong? None of my other machines does this. > > Thanks for your help. Have you tried a different browser? Try restarting cupsd # /etc/init.d/cupsd restart -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?
On Saturday 25 February 2006 12:57, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?': > On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:57:43 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > ~arch means a package is a candidate for going into arch after > | > further testing, if said testing does not turn up new bugs. This > | > means that both the ebuild *and* the package should be likely to be > | > stable. > | > | So, betas shouldn't ever be ~arch? Or is your definition of stable > | broad enough to include betas? > > Entirely dependent on the upstream. I've had Vim beta releases in > ~arch, for example, because I'm confident in upstream's ability to do > beta releases without screwing up. So, it's based on the collective opinion of the gentoo developers? Wouldn't it be better to put that in the hands of the gentoo user? > The -* abuse is one of the many things on QA's list of "stuff we want > to get fixed". However, it's considered extremely low priority on > existing packages. As it should be, since there are well-known user work-arounds. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration
> > I can't seem to find this option in firefox 1.5.0.1 > > > > Under "Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads" I see "Download actions". > > Clicking on "View and Edit Actions" shows an entry for some > > Flash-related files, but nothing for pdf and no option to add a new > > entry to this list. Am I missing something obvious? > > > > > > Matt > > I know it is a poor (not logical design), but here is how it works. > > Navigate to any PDF file with firefox and click on the file. > You will see window pop-up as firefox doesn't know what to do with it. > Beside "Open with" is empty selection, click on that empty icon, you > will see: "other" --> click on it. > Another window will pop-up, under File Name: type: /usr/kde/3.4/bin/kpdf > or complete path to whatever application you want to use --> click OPEN > I will return you to previous window; select "Do this automatically..." > > It will enter this setting in Download section in Setting Preferences. > > -- > #Joseph Got it. Thanks! - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dhcpcd AND pump?
Is it worthwhile to keep more than one dhcp client installed on your laptop? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] cups is broken
Hi, all, I have a strange-to-me cups printing problem on one of my gentoo machines. When I point firefox at http://localhost:631, I don't see the familiar cups admin web page, but just the raw html, i.e., Common UNIX Printing System http://www.easysw.com"; ALT="Easy Software Products Home Page"> http://www.cups.org"; ALT="Download the Current CUPS Software"> Do Administration Tasks Manage Printer Classes On-Line Help Manage Jobs Manage Printers http://www.cups.org";>Download the Current CUPS Software The Common UNIX Printing System, CUPS, and the CUPS logo are the trademark property of http://www.easysw.com";>Easy Software Products. CUPS is copyright 1997-2005 by Easy Software Products, All Rights Reserved. Does anyone know what's wrong? None of my other machines does this. Thanks for your help. John Blinka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] re-scanning for devices
is there a way to rescan for devices after bootup? like if i hot-plugged a scsi drive into the machine after it was already running? how can i re-detect the hardware? also, what if it detects a drive as sda, and i want it to be sdb? is there a way i can tell it what i want to be sda, sda etc? without actually having to move the drives around? im having an issuse where the bios see's the drive i want as sda or the boot drive, but when gentoo boots up the drive is actually sde and i get kernel panics cause its looking for something on a different drive. please advise Nick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:57:43 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > ~arch means a package is a candidate for going into arch after | > further testing, if said testing does not turn up new bugs. This | > means that both the ebuild *and* the package should be likely to be | > stable. | | So, betas shouldn't ever be ~arch? Or is your definition of stable | broad enough to include betas? Entirely dependent on the upstream. I've had Vim beta releases in ~arch, for example, because I'm confident in upstream's ability to do beta releases without screwing up. | > -* means the package is in some way architecture or hardware | > independent (e.g. a binary only package), and so will only run on | > archs that are explicitly listed. | | So, I guess glibc-2.3.6-r3.ebuild is using -* incorrectly? Probably. | > Any package setting KEYWORDS="-*" and nothing else is abusing -*, | > and will flag a warning on the QA checkers. | | You mean like gcc-4.1.0_pre20060219.ebuild? Yyyyup. The -* abuse is one of the many things on QA's list of "stuff we want to get fixed". However, it's considered extremely low priority on existing packages. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge timezone-data fails?
On Friday 24 February 2006 06:18, a tiny voice compelled Frédéric Grosshans to write: > Le jeudi 23 février 2006 à 16:14 -0500, Ernie Schroder a écrit : > > !!! ERROR: sys-libs/timezone-data-2006b failed. > > I had the same problem yesterday, but it seems solved today after an > emerge sync. > > Fred Same here. Confirmed fixed. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
On Saturday 25 February 2006 00:36, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > But it's working now. So tell us how many frames glxgears is doing > now, with and without radeon. :) Actually the results using dri is worse than the results without dri in terms of frame rates. Without dri I get something like 250 FPS. With dri I get something like 228 FPS. The great difference though is when looking at the X cpu usage. glxgears uses around 0.5 % with or without dri. But without dri X uses 92% of the cpu resources. With dri X uses between 0.5 and 1% cpu. So obviously dri is preferable... ;) Listed the output below if anyone is interested. ~$ glxinfo | grep dir direct rendering: No OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect ~$ glxgears 792 frames in 5.0 seconds = 158.400 FPS 1945 frames in 5.0 seconds = 389.000 FPS 1847 frames in 5.0 seconds = 369.400 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS 1139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.800 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS 1139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.800 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS 1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS X usage ~92% ~$ glxinfo | grep dir direct rendering: Yes ~$ glxgears 1035 frames in 5.0 seconds = 207.000 FPS 1162 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.400 FPS 1155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 231.000 FPS 1143 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.600 FPS 844 frames in 5.0 seconds = 168.800 FPS 1145 frames in 5.0 seconds = 229.000 FPS 1135 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.000 FPS 1164 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.800 FPS 1144 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.800 FPS 627 frames in 5.0 seconds = 125.400 FPS 1048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 209.600 FPS 1148 frames in 5.0 seconds = 229.600 FPS 1141 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.200 FPS 1057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 211.400 FPS 1077 frames in 5.0 seconds = 215.400 FPS 1137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.400 FPS X usage: 0.5-1% -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
On Saturday 25 February 2006 15:03, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > Bo Andresen wrote: > > Is there a way to disable dri for this test without restarting X? > > Good question. I don't know. What I do is simply move the driver > in /usr/lib/modules/dri/ out of the way, or renaming it temporarily > (to say NOTradeon_dri.so). That doesn't work for me. But moving /usr/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so does. ;) Moving the entire directory would of course work for everyone... -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild.
Hi, On 2/25/06, David Corbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > trombone dcorbin # emerge -uav portage > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies -!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an > ebuild. > !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/libintl-0) > -- > > Is there someone way I can work around this? I don't seem to be able to > emerge anything. Your portage is too old, see bug #114798. Try it without the -u, i.e.: # emerge -av portage and then sync again. > David HTH, Max -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild.
On Saturday 25 February 2006 20:03, David Corbin wrote: > trombone dcorbin # emerge -uav portage > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies -!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an > ebuild. > !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/libintl-0) > -- > > Is there someone way I can work around this? I don't seem to be able to > emerge anything. Hrmm.. Sorry. # export PORTDIR="$(portageq envvar PORTDIR)" # mv $PORTDIR/virtual ./virtual.backup # emerge --oneshot portage # mv ./virtual.backup $PORTDIR/virtual -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild.
On Saturday 25 February 2006 20:03, David Corbin wrote: > trombone dcorbin # emerge -uav portage > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies -!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an > ebuild. > !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/libintl-0) > -- > > Is there someone way I can work around this? I don't seem to be able to > emerge anything. Update portage. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild.
trombone dcorbin # emerge -uav portage These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies -!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild. !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/libintl-0) -- Is there someone way I can work around this? I don't seem to be able to emerge anything. David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Video streaming solution
James wrote: > vlc: retransmits video streams > zoneminder: security stream camera viewer > mythtv: digital video recorder > qdvdauthor > mplayer > vdr: set top box for DVB > > > many other packages exist, just take a look in the > /usr/portage/medida-video/ dir, and emerge one for a test Thank you very much. I will look and see what is possible. If I gain some experience I will post back to the list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboards
Sounds like Asus took all the people who knew what they were doing and understood customer service and exiled them to ASRock . That way the good ones don't contaminate Asus! On Saturday February 25 2006 07:35, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:55, Jarry wrote: > > Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > > Thanks. I believe Tom's Hardware liked ASRock, too. I'll add them to > > > my list. > > > > AFAIK, ASRock is nothing else, then just daughter-company of ASUS, and > > its primary business-area are low-end (cheap) products which ASUS did not > > want to sell under name "ASUS". But I do not say they it is a bad choice, > > yes, Asrock is a daughter, in their 'how to build a computer' video, they > even use Asus graphic cards, BUT: > their support is better. They regularly release updated bios', and when I > had a problem with my elderly scsi controller, I got an answer in less than > 36h, which totally solved the problem. > > They officially don't support linux, but when some people had problems with > the K7S8X and some knoppix versions, they released a bios, that fixed the > problem in a few days. So they are good guys in my book ;) -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboards
That's interesting. On Saturday February 25 2006 01:55, Jarry wrote: > Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > Thanks. I believe Tom's Hardware liked ASRock, too. I'll add them to my > > list. > > > >>>I need to purchase a motherboard that supports SATA and am looking for > >>>recommendations. I used to use ASUS but their support is non-existent > > AFAIK, ASRock is nothing else, then just daughter-company of ASUS, and its > primary business-area are low-end (cheap) products which ASUS did not want > to sell under name "ASUS". But I do not say they it is a bad choice, > personally I have ASUS mobo in my workstation and ASRock in one small > server. And I'd say ASUS/ASRock support is the same... > > Jarry -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question
On Saturday 25 February 2006 04:44, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question': > Hm, about half year ago I asked which fs to use. I counted > votes, and ext3 won (reiser was 2nd). Nobody mentioned that > reiserfs can be resized on-line, ext3 not (only off-line). > It seems I have to revaluate results of that voting... I think your main problem was not using a Condorcet Method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method), there are a lot of problems, pointed out by Arrow, with simple methods like parity or IRV. ;) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] need to be in wheel for sound?
Antoine wrote:
> I just had to add the missus to wheel for her to get sound in kde
Check the permissions and owners in /dev/s{,ou}nd?
Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
Bruce Burden wrote: > # lsmod > Module Size Used by > radeon 98464 0 > drm61592 1 radeon > agpgart27216 1 drm There should also be an agp module specific for your chipset. > [fglrx:firegl_stub_register] *ERROR* Unable to the open some > already present DRM kernel module! > > So, what am I doing wrong? You need to choose what you want to use: either the open-source radeon driver (x11-drm), or the closed source fglrx (ati-drivers). > The drm module seems to be the problem child, once I added that, > fglrx got tempermental... As far as I know fglrx contains its own drm. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
Bo Andresen wrote: > Is there a way to disable dri for this test without restarting X? Good question. I don't know. What I do is simply move the driver in /usr/lib/modules/dri/ out of the way, or renaming it temporarily (to say NOTradeon_dri.so). Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging Beagle
Hi, > I just synced argh. I also synced and the Mozilla dependency is gone. Sorry for the traffic & thanks for the help :) . Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] installing gentoo on Asus A8N-VM: sata_nv => kernel panic...
Hi, did anybody succeeded with installing gentoo/amd64 on this board? ASUS A8N-VM (nForce 410 + on-board integrated graphics GF6100) I tried amd64-minimal-livecd, booted gentoo-nofb, but it stops while loading sata_nv module. I tried booting "gentoo-nofb noapic nodetect", kernel booted, but I ended with pretty useless system, no networking, no sata-drives, no gentoo installing... :-( I tried to start networking with "modprobe forcedeth", and eth0 was up. That's one problem solved, but without disk I'm still unable to install, because trying "modprobe sata_nv" always causes kernel panic... So what can I do more? Any tips? Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboards
On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:55, Jarry wrote: > Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > Thanks. I believe Tom's Hardware liked ASRock, too. I'll add them to my > > list. > > > >>>I need to purchase a motherboard that supports SATA and am looking for > >>>recommendations. I used to use ASUS but their support is non-existent > > AFAIK, ASRock is nothing else, then just daughter-company of ASUS, and its > primary business-area are low-end (cheap) products which ASUS did not want > to sell under name "ASUS". But I do not say they it is a bad choice, > personally I have ASUS mobo in my workstation and ASRock in one small > server. And I'd say ASUS/ASRock support is the same... yes, Asrock is a daughter, in their 'how to build a computer' video, they even use Asus graphic cards, BUT: their support is better. They regularly release updated bios', and when I had a problem with my elderly scsi controller, I got an answer in less than 36h, which totally solved the problem. They officially don't support linux, but when some people had problems with the K7S8X and some knoppix versions, they released a bios, that fixed the problem in a few days. So they are good guys in my book ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync
On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:37, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > that is the only change I remember at the moment (and which did not went > > into the wiki). > > Not true anymore :) I just added "your" changes to the wiki. 'your' is correct, because I 'stole' it from the forum's thread ;) Nice, that you updated the wiki. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question
Holly Bostick wrote: > Alexander Skwar schreef: >> >> Okay, so the following fs are online resizable, according to you: >> >> - reiser3 - xfs - jfs - ext2, ext3 >> >> That's pretty much "every FS", isn't it? > > Yes, but as far as I know from the docs, jfs and xfs can only be *grown* > online, not shrunk, which could be a problem depending on your needs. That's right. I originally wrote "Every FS can be extended online", though. I didn't pay so much attention and thus did not notice that change. BTW: reiser3 can also not be shrinked online. But at least it can be made smaller when it's offline. Alexander Skwar -- Obviously I was either onto something, or on something. -- Larry Wall on the creation of Perl -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question
Alexander Skwar schreef: > > Okay, so the following fs are online resizable, according to you: > > - reiser3 - xfs - jfs - ext2, ext3 > > That's pretty much "every FS", isn't it? Yes, but as far as I know from the docs, jfs and xfs can only be *grown* online, not shrunk, which could be a problem depending on your needs. Unless that's changed recently. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging Beagle
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 07:40:53AM +0100, Penguin Lover Alexander Skwar squawked: > Christoph Eckert wrote: > > > Now it wants to pull in www-client/mozilla-1.7.12-r2. > > > > I'd like to avoid that. Anyone a hint if or even how this is possible? > > It's not possible. Upstream says to use it. > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98839 > The beagle dependency on gecko-sharp might be just for the 0.1.* versions though. I just synced and looked at the 0.2.1 version, and I don't see a dependency on gecko-sharp. Unless there's something else pulling in mozilla... Here's the output: [06:06 AM]wwong ~ $ emerge search gecko-sharp Searching... [ Results for search key : gecko-sharp ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * dev-dotnet/gecko-sharp Latest version available: 0.6 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 108 kB Homepage:http://www.go-mono.com/ Description: A Gtk# Mozilla binding License: GPL-2 No gecko-sharp installed [06:09 AM]wwong ~ $ ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge --pretend --tree app-misc/beagle These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] app-misc/beagle-0.2.1 [ebuild U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3] [ebuild N] dev-db/sqlite-3.3.4 [ebuild N] dev-dotnet/gconf-sharp-2.8.0 [ebuild N] dev-dotnet/glade-sharp-2.8.0 [ebuild N] dev-libs/gmime-2.1.19 [ebuild N] dev-dotnet/gnome-sharp-2.8.0 [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.12.3 [ebuild N]gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.12.0-r1 [ebuild N]gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.12.3 [ebuild N] app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r2 [ebuild N]app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.4.4 [ebuild N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.3 [ebuild N]gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.12.1 [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.6 [ebuild N] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1-r1 [ebuild N]gnome-base/libgnome-2.12.0.1 [ebuild N]x11-libs/libwnck-2.12.3 [ebuild N] dev-dotnet/art-sharp-2.8.0 [ebuild N] dev-dotnet/gnomevfs-sharp-2.8.0 [ebuild N]gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2 [ebuild N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1 [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 [ebuild N] gnome-base/gconf-2.12.1 [ebuild N]dev-dotnet/gtk-sharp-2.8.0 [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-1.58-r1 [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-LibXML-Common-0.13 [ebuild N] dev-util/monodoc-1.1.13 [ebuild N] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.5 [ebuild N] dev-lang/mono-1.1.12.1-r1 [ebuild N] dev-dotnet/libgdiplus-1.1.11 [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 [ebuild N]gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.12.1 [ebuild N] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.2 [ebuild N]x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1 [ebuild N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.9 [ebuild N]gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.12.0 W -- M: Even when I know what I am doing, I don't know what I am doing. M: Like, this first semester, I knew I was going to be an ORFE major, but look at me now... I am definitely a classics major... Sortir en Pantoufles: up 105 days, 3:32 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness
John J. Foster schreef: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 02:59:19AM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: >> John J. Foster schreef: >>> Good evening, >>> >>> I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on >>> both Firefox & OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to >>> display hidden folders and/or files. >> For firefox, if a Save dialog, select "Browse for other folders", >> then right-click inside the file list on the right -- not the >> folder list on the left-- and select "Show hidden files". For the >> Open dialog, you don't have to browse, obviously. > > Thanks, that works fine. Even for the "Open File", which I'm not sure > why you wouldn't think I'd have to browse. Sorry, it was late for me and I was typing fast. What I meant is that for the Save dialog, you have to open the "Browse" section of the dialog window by opening "Browse for other folders", so showing hidden files is two steps, but the Open dialog begins with a Browse window, so you only have one step. >> However, if you do this a lot, you might consider making a symlink >> from the hidden folder or file to a link of the same name, but >> without the preceding ".", that way the symlink won't be hidden. >> > Yeah, but that's really lame that I'd have to do that. OOo can be so > advanced on some things, and so incredibly stupid on others. Lame? I dunno. Is it 'lamer' than having to type a path or filename in the dialog? Or 'lamer' than Joseph's suggestion (which doesn't work for me using OO.o-2.02_rc2): Joseph schreef: > > Yes, it is there for OO as well. When you click on Open File, the > window will have few icons, click on the available icons and you will > find it :-) > In my Open dialog (OOWriter), there are 3 button icons: Up one level in the filetree, Make new folder, and Home. This is exactly what I would expect, and these buttons do exactly what I would expect. There is no context menu for them, and if the menu exists on the main window, I don't see it, and I didn't find it in the Preferences screen last night. I don't know about you, but to me, one 10-second task (making a symlink to a folder which is likely not hidden by my choice but by default, such as config files in my /home folder which I often edit), and afterwards knowing that it's /done/ and I don't have to worry about it any more, is much less 'lame' than having to search for 10 minutes for a stupid setting in the program in question (Firefox, as a GNOME program, puts the setting one place, Krusader, as a KDE program, puts the setting another place, and OO.o, as an independent program, puts it $DEITY knows where, if the setting exists at all). But perhaps you have different needs (as a single home user, I don't particularly have any need to hide any files from possible abuse, so while I may work with hidden files often, they aren't "mission-critical", voluntarily hidden files). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question
Jarry wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >>>I could not resize /usr or /var off-line, >> >> That's wrong. I suppose that those are your ext* fs? >> If so, you can perfectly fine resize those fs while >> they are offline. > > I mean I can not resize them off-line because I can not unmount them > while system is running :-) Ah, okay, that's how you meant it. In that case, you're right. >>>Then maybe I should get rid of lvm2... >> >> No. Get rid of ext*. reiser3 and xfs are mature, use those instead. > > Hm, about half year ago I asked which fs to use. I counted > votes, and ext3 won (reiser was 2nd). Did I vote? If not, I probably would not have voted for ext*. Well, actually, I *DO* use ext*. ext2 for /boot and ext3 for /, as those are FS, which I will close to never ever resize. > Nobody mentioned that > reiserfs can be resized on-line, I must have missed that thread back then :) > ext3 not (only off-line). Well, ext3 *CAN* be resized online, with the appropriate patches. Would I recommend that? No, I wouldn't, because I have got no experience with those patches. For the same reason, I wouldn't recommend to NOT use it. Alexander Skwar -- There are never any bugs you haven't found yet. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question
Alexander Skwar wrote: >>I could not resize /usr or /var off-line, > > That's wrong. I suppose that those are your ext* fs? > If so, you can perfectly fine resize those fs while > they are offline. I mean I can not resize them off-line because I can not unmount them while system is running :-) Maybe booting livecd could be solution, but it is hard to do remotely. >>Then maybe I should get rid of lvm2... > > No. Get rid of ext*. reiser3 and xfs are mature, use those instead. Hm, about half year ago I asked which fs to use. I counted votes, and ext3 won (reiser was 2nd). Nobody mentioned that reiserfs can be resized on-line, ext3 not (only off-line). It seems I have to revaluate results of that voting... Thanks for answer... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] need to be in wheel for sound?
Hi, I just had to add the missus to wheel for her to get sound in kde - is this normal? She was in audio, video, games and users and had no sound. I looked at my groups and the only plausible difference was wheel. Sure enough adding her to wheel did the trick. Now not that I don't trust the wife - but well, should someone have to be in wheel to get sound? Am I wrong or is there some logic somewhere that explains this? A config option to change? Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question
Jarry wrote: > Zac Slade wrote: > >> reiser3, resizable online in two ways >> 1)resize_reiserfs /path/to/dev >> 2)mount -o remount,resize /path/to/dev >> XFS, MUST be mounted to resize use xfs_grow /mount/point >> JFS, resizable online with a mount -o remount,resize /path/to/dev >> ext2/3, resizable offline reliably. Online resize is a *very* experimental >> experiment. Have good backups. > > If I understand correctly, it is not worth having lvm2 with ext3, right? Well, "not worth" is too hard. One of the main benefits of LVM is, that you can easily extend (and theoretically shrink) filesystems. Since ext* can, in practicallity, only be resized offline, one of the benefits goes away. Also, extending and shrinking ext* takes *AGES*, as you MUST run "e2fsck -f $dev" beforehand. > I could not resize /usr or /var off-line, That's wrong. I suppose that those are your ext* fs? If so, you can perfectly fine resize those fs while they are offline. > and resizing while mounted > is not possible without kernel patch, and still only experimental. > Then maybe I should get rid of lvm2... No. Get rid of ext*. reiser3 and xfs are mature, use those instead. Alexander Skwar -- If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then you clearly don't understand the situation. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: AMD64 & lilo...
Francesco Talamona wrote: >>does lilo work with amd64, or not? > It works a charm, never used GRUB on my amd64s That's what I wanted to know! I want to stay with lilo, just got frightened by that "...on AMD64, Gentoo only supports using GRUB..." statement... Sven Köhler wrote: > AFAIK, grub does _not_ support RAID. Strange, that GRand Unified Bootloader does not support something, that lilo has been supporting for at least ~5 years... > In addition, i see a stable amd64 ebuild and even a ~amd64 ebuild in > portage. So what was the problem again? I just wanted to know, if there are some serious reasons (maybe stability or compatibility?), why lilo is not supported on amd64. But if there is no such a problem for amd64+lilo, I'll stick with it... Thanks for all answers! Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: AMD64 & lilo...
On Saturday 25 February 2006 09:21, Jarry wrote: > I always used lilo, because I find grub syntax a little "strange", I find it "irritating", to say the least :-) > moreover I do not know how grub handles raid (I'm just reading grub > manual on gnu-site, not a single word about raid), but now I'm not > sure what to do: does lilo work with amd64, or not? It works a charm, never used GRUB on my amd64s (one at home, one at work). > How should I translate this lilo.conf into grub.conf: It seems correct (though I don't know your setup), what kind of issues are you experiencing? You can safely ignore that warning. I'm using a software RAID setup here at home, see my lilo.conf's common section: boot=/dev/md0 raid-extra-boot = mbr map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot-bmp.b bitmap=/boot/lilo/gallery/boot.bmp bmp-table=227p,233p,1,7 bmp-colors=13,0,,11,0,13 bmp-timer=76,30,11,0 default= 2615r5 # 2615r4 # 2615r2 #2615r1 #2615 #2614r6 #2612r9 keytable=/boot/it-latin1.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 append="pci=biosirq idebus=33 acpi=off video=scrollback:255K" HTH. Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.15-gentoo-r5, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Sun Feb 12 07:50:34 CET 2006 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2007.26 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Screen settings
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:48:14 -0500 "Frino Klauss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Rajat, > I suggest u add the following to your Screen section. > > DefaultDepth 24 > > just after the Monitor Line. Nice way to avoid using DRI, I've read two suggestions like this and On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:30:03 + "Rajat Gujral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (**) I810(0): DRI is disabled because it runs only at 16-bit depth. So I suggest a DefaultDepth 16 instead of 24 (if you need/want to use DRI, of course). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] S/P diff question - SOLVED
Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2006 04:22 schrieb Zac Slade: > On Friday 24 February 2006 09:12, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > > Hi there! > > > > I'm wondering why dts and aac sound coming from DVD is perfectly > > transmitted over the spdif port (the A/V receiver recognizes the format > > ans switches to dts/dolby mode, and -- much important -- I can hear the > > movie's sound); But if I try the same with a "normal" divx-file or try > > to play anything else, nothing comes out over the spdif port, only via > > the analog audio jacks I can hear something. > > What program is playing back the DVD? Is this different from the player > playing the "other" media files? > > Since something can play out the spdif port then it might be important to > look at that program's setup for audio output. What device is it using > etc. -- Finally, I found out *what* really went wrong. I was using freevo with default settings, which uses xine for playing dvds and mplayer for playing avi/mp3/whatever. So, I setup xine as desired and where happy that dvds worked fine. I did not expect that freevo starts mplayer for playing nearly everything else, so I did not check the config, and viola: mplayer was configured to use oss. This was bad enough to make the alsa driver muting the spdif and only using analog output, even when using some other software for playing sound. This was where I gave up yesterday. After finding out which programs where really used, I checked /etc/freevo/local_conf.py and configured mplayer correctly to use alsa. Now spdif and analog output works as it should :-)) Thanks and greetings Alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: AMD64 & lilo...
> How should I translate this lilo.conf into grub.conf: > - > boot = /dev/md0 AFAIK, grub does _not_ support RAID. You would habe to install grub into the MBR of all drives part of md0. GRUB cannot be installed into the boot-sector of a partition. And AFAIK, there are some problems with installing GRUB into both MBR. Well, LILO manages all the problems for you. GRUB doesn't. In addition, i see a stable amd64 ebuild and even a ~amd64 ebuild in portage. So what was the problem again? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] AMD64 & lilo...
Hi all, does anybody use lilo with amd64? I'm right at installing bootloader, and to my big surprise I found this statement in handbook: "While LILO does work on AMD64, Gentoo only supports using GRUB" I always used lilo, because I find grub syntax a little "strange", moreover I do not know how grub handles raid (I'm just reading grub manual on gnu-site, not a single word about raid), but now I'm not sure what to do: does lilo work with amd64, or not? How should I translate this lilo.conf into grub.conf: - password = "" restricted delay=5 boot = /dev/md0 prompt timeout = 30 default = gentoo image = /boot/kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 label = gentoo read-only root = /dev/md1 image = /boot/kernel-2.6.14-gentoo-r5 label = gentoo.old read-only root = /dev/md1 - Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness
060224 John J. Foster wrote: > On my KDE desktop in the File Open dialog boxes on both Firefox & OOo > I can't find where to tell them to display hidden folders/files. I'm using Firefox 1.5 & OO 2.0 on KDE 3.5.1 : for Firefox, R-click on the actual dir/file list & "show hidden files"; for OO, ditto & follow "View" & ditto or toggle with F8 . Generally, when you can't find something, R-click often brings up a list. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
