[gentoo-user] eix way too verbose
Hi all,
It seems that with every update, eix output gets more and more verbose.
Take this for example:
nazgul ~ # eix gimp-print
[I] media-gfx/gimp-print
Available versions: 4.2.7 (~)5.1.0 {cups foomaticdb gimp gtk nls
ppds readline}
Installed versions: 5.1.0(20:50:45 05/02/07)(cups foomaticdb gimp
gtk -nls ppds readline)
Homepage:http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
Description: Gimp Print Drivers
I have no need to see that full list of USE flags between braces on
the Available versions line - the information is already on
the Installed versions line.
Which config option disables this display?
alan
p.s. I did rtfm, and am still busy with it. It's just that man eix
and /etc/eixrc seems to be having a make-the-longest-docs competition
with man bash ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix way too verbose
On Thursday 03 May 2007 09:28:54 Alan McKinnon wrote:
It seems that with every update, eix output gets more and more verbose.
Take this for example:
With that in mind it seems relevant to mention which version of eix you're
using. I'm putting my bet on 0.9.4 though. ;)
nazgul ~ # eix gimp-print
[I] media-gfx/gimp-print
Available versions: 4.2.7 (~)5.1.0 {cups foomaticdb gimp gtk nls
ppds readline}
Installed versions: 5.1.0(20:50:45 05/02/07)(cups foomaticdb gimp
gtk -nls ppds readline)
Homepage:http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
Description: Gimp Print Drivers
I have no need to see that full list of USE flags between braces on
the Available versions line - the information is already on
the Installed versions line.
Maybe stating the obvious but it is in both places only for packages that you
already have installed. ;)
Which config option disables this display?
EIX_PRINT_IUSE='false'
p.s. I did rtfm, and am still busy with it. It's just that man eix
and /etc/eixrc seems to be having a make-the-longest-docs competition
with man bash ...
Now the question is if it can be made conditional on whether the package is
already installed... ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix way too verbose
On Thursday 03 May 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: I have no need to see that full list of USE flags between braces on the Available versions line - the information is already on the Installed versions line. Maybe stating the obvious but it is in both places only for packages that you already have installed. ;) It is obvious and you did state it :-) I can see why the feature is there, and why some might find it useful, I just prefer to have it switched off. Yeah, I know, I'm weird... Which config option disables this display? EIX_PRINT_IUSE='false' Thanks, life is now good again :-) p.s. I did rtfm, and am still busy with it. It's just that man eix and /etc/eixrc seems to be having a make-the-longest-docs competition with man bash ... Now the question is if it can be made conditional on whether the package is already installed... ;) Doesn't that defeat the purpose though? Or perhaps you mean to display the Available list if the package isn't installed yet and the Installed version otherwise. I could be persuaded to configure eix like that if it were supported. alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eix way too verbose
On Thursday 03 May 2007 12:50:20 Alan McKinnon wrote: Now the question is if it can be made conditional on whether the package is already installed... ;) Doesn't that defeat the purpose though? Or perhaps you mean to display the Available list if the package isn't installed yet and the Installed version otherwise. I could be persuaded to configure eix like that if it were supported. Ack, that's what I meant. :) -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710
Hi, On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:18:46 -0400 Colleen Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, OK, I see. Does your kernel's command line contain a valid video=... setting? I'm not sure what you mean here. In my make.conf file, I have the line video_cards=nvidia No, I'm talking about boot loader configuration (the boot loader passes a command line to the kernel on which there should be a video parameter being set). Maybe genkernel does it for you, I can't tell since I never used genkernel and probably never will. Are you sure you're handing it a recognized mode string? (I.e. when there's something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so, the values aren't freely configurable but must match a valid video mode for the framebuffer driver in question -- most of them use those from the modedb). Also, you'll need not just framebuffer, but framebuffer console support, too. I use genkernel and there is a screen resolution of something that says 1024x768 and I can't edit it. I also don't know what my horizontal and vertical sync are because it's not in my documentation and when I used ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returns 0 0 and ddcxinfo-knoppix -modlines doesn't have a corresponding mode for my monitor - the resolution is 1920x1200. I'm really out of ideas here: I don't know how much genkernel automatizes the kernel configuration and don't use it myself. Also, it depends on the framebuffer driver whether it matches the configured video mode with some information from the monitor. Did you check the kernel log for errors, as suggested? -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710
On Thursday 03 May 2007 01:08, Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi all, I'm having a heck of a time. I've tried so many things, that I'm totally confused. After installing xorg-x11, I ran Xorg -configure. It gives me a file with no horizontal or vertical sync. I would think then that you would have to enter these yourself - check the manufacturers manual, or the equivalent OEM product specification. What I mean here is that Dell are assemblers, or box-shifters, they don't actually manufacture components. Their products are usually similar with other differently branded products. If you find the OEM then you should be able to source the hsync for it. Alternatively, you could try different LiveCDs for one that successfully guesses these parameters and run xvidtune to see what they are, or look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. You could do well to see if they load any particular modules for your monitor/keyboard/mouse too. If you haven't yet wiped out WinXP you could run msinfo.msc to find out what the monitor reports to the MSWindows kernel. Finally, you could try installing Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, etc. to find one that recognises and configures your hardware before you copy xorg.conf for using it thereafter with Gentoo. I tried using the ddcxinfo-knoppix tool, but when I did ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returned 0 0. When I did ddxcinfo-knoppix -modelines, it didn't have a matching mode for my monitor - the default being 1920x1200. I assume that because I don't have a horizontal and vertical sync in my xorg.conf file that's why the screen becomes all garbled when startx bombs out. and, or it could be because you need some special driver (not familiar with nvidia I'm afraid). Xorg.0.log tells me that there is no core keyboard or mouse. I've built support into the kernel. in /dev/input/ there are choices for mice mouse0 and mouse1. I've tried using all of these and trying various drivers, but nothing works. I'm afraid I'm not sure how to help here, but if your mouse/keyboard are not configured properly you may never be able to boot into X. Have you set up something like: INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse synaptics in your /etc/make.conf before you emerged Xorg? You may need to also search around for evdev (I think). HTH. -- Regards, Mick pgp1Uq7rvdH2l.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710
I just caught the tail of this thread... is this about an nvidia video? If so, even under Ubuntu I had troubles with X. I downloaded the nvidia source for the driver for mine (on a couple of different machines), and compiled it, then modprobe'd it, then added it to the autoload conf file. X worked very nicely after that. I just went through this same headache with another Dell (D420) which had an Intel graphics onboard chip. Although, in that instance, Noven really came through, showing me some of his xorg.conf file, and pointing out the need for some fancy driver loading... Nvidia seems to have its own brand of headache with Linux on a few distro's. I've taken it as a rule of thumb to compile-load-add_to_conf to avoid all of their mess on all of my machines. I don't know if gentoo has this in portage (easy enough to check for it), but Ubuntu has an nvidia-kernel package that is apt-able, and then with the driver in hand, it can be compiled and loaded. I'm sure gentoo, (being a superior development machine) has it (or something quite similar). -Original Message- From: Mick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:44 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710 On Thursday 03 May 2007 01:08, Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi all, I'm having a heck of a time. I've tried so many things, that I'm totally confused. After installing xorg-x11, I ran Xorg -configure. It gives me a file with no horizontal or vertical sync. I would think then that you would have to enter these yourself - check the manufacturers manual, or the equivalent OEM product specification. What I mean here is that Dell are assemblers, or box-shifters, they don't actually manufacture components. Their products are usually similar with other differently branded products. If you find the OEM then you should be able to source the hsync for it. Alternatively, you could try different LiveCDs for one that successfully guesses these parameters and run xvidtune to see what they are, or look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. You could do well to see if they load any particular modules for your monitor/keyboard/mouse too. If you haven't yet wiped out WinXP you could run msinfo.msc to find out what the monitor reports to the MSWindows kernel. Finally, you could try installing Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, etc. to find one that recognises and configures your hardware before you copy xorg.conf for using it thereafter with Gentoo. I tried using the ddcxinfo-knoppix tool, but when I did ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returned 0 0. When I did ddxcinfo-knoppix -modelines, it didn't have a matching mode for my monitor - the default being 1920x1200. I assume that because I don't have a horizontal and vertical sync in my xorg.conf file that's why the screen becomes all garbled when startx bombs out. and, or it could be because you need some special driver (not familiar with nvidia I'm afraid). Xorg.0.log tells me that there is no core keyboard or mouse. I've built support into the kernel. in /dev/input/ there are choices for mice mouse0 and mouse1. I've tried using all of these and trying various drivers, but nothing works. I'm afraid I'm not sure how to help here, but if your mouse/keyboard are not configured properly you may never be able to boot into X. Have you set up something like: INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse synaptics in your /etc/make.conf before you emerged Xorg? You may need to also search around for evdev (I think). HTH. -- Regards, Mick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710
On Thursday 03 May 2007, Mick wrote: On Thursday 03 May 2007 01:08, Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi all, I'm having a heck of a time. I've tried so many things, that I'm totally confused. After installing xorg-x11, I ran Xorg -configure. It gives me a file with no horizontal or vertical sync. I would think then that you would have to enter these yourself - check the manufacturers manual, or the equivalent OEM product specification. What I mean here is that Dell are assemblers, or box-shifters, they don't actually manufacture components. Their products are usually similar with other differently branded products. If you find the OEM then you should be able to source the hsync for it. Alternatively, you could try different LiveCDs for one that successfully guesses these parameters and run xvidtune to see what they are, or look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. You could do well to see if they load any particular modules for your monitor/keyboard/mouse too. Colleen's machine is a laptop. They don't have horiz and vert sync signals... Those settings apply only to CRT displays. 99 times out of 100, LCD screens do just fine with a minimal xorg.conf. Here's mine: Section Monitor # HorizSync 64.8 - 64.8 # VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0 Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelName Monitor Model Option DPMS true # DisplaySize 331 207 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option HWCursor false # Check if these three really work on this hardware... #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option VGAClocks # [bool] #Option KGAUniversal # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver radeon Option AGPMode 4 #Option AGPFastWrite True Option EnablePageFlip True Option AccelMethod xaa BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 Monitor Monitor0 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1680x1050 EndSubSection EndSection Notice how the only things that are uncommented are unky radeon driver settings. I can even take the Modes line out and it all still works just fine. That's because virtually all modern monitors/cards speak DDC and Xorg can ask the hardware when it starts what the hardware supports. The only thing Colleen *has* to customize here is the correct Driver for her nvdia card alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: file sorting in nautilus
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so in short, is there any way around this? Can I tell nautilus to stop being clever? I reported this as a bug to the Gnome folks. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435505 Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Email to Hotmail not working
Dave Oxley wrote: I am unable to send email to hotmail. I thought I had a misconfiguration in sendmail, but I have just tried a telnet (See below). Although I can send emails to hotmail without an error or undeliverable report, none show up in my hotmail account unless I reply to an email I sent from my hotmail. Does anyone have any ideas? Have you looked in your Hotmail junk folder? Be lucky, Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Email to Hotmail not working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Walker wrote: Dave Oxley wrote: I am unable to send email to hotmail. I thought I had a misconfiguration in sendmail, but I have just tried a telnet (See below). Although I can send emails to hotmail without an error or undeliverable report, none show up in my hotmail account unless I reply to an email I sent from my hotmail. Does anyone have any ideas? Have you looked in your Hotmail junk folder? Yes. Only this email was in there! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGOhARx43ifHzpDVURAsVqAJ92IAjZsl/rjXjdbCJld8cAUFe1bgCfbPEb igK3qCsIddCB1CnlaHphWlw= =1rfY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lbx and X under Gentoo
On Thursday 03 May 2007 17:49:05 Konstantinos Agouros wrote: Hi, is there some black magic or a USE flag one needs to know to get the LBX extension into a X-Server for gentoo? LBX was removed from X.org since 7.1 (7.0 should still provide it). Regards, Elias P. -- A really nice number: 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Email to Hotmail not working
On 03 May 2007, Dave Oxley wrote: I am unable to send email to hotmail. I thought I had a misconfiguration in sendmail, but I have just tried a telnet (See below). Although I can send emails to hotmail without an error or undeliverable report, none show up in my hotmail account unless I reply to an email I sent from my hotmail. Does anyone have any ideas? Look, Dave, almost all people on this list and virtually anywhere in planet Internet have dumped sendmail years ago and moved to some modern MTA like exim or postfix or some such. It is highly unlikely you get a spot-on answer here. Maybe, there are still sendmail mailing lists around. You better try there. That said, it could be that hotmail doesn't like your Envelop-To: header. Sendmail can, without a doubt, re-write this header, but I have forgotten how to do it about ten years ago. ;-) Uwe -- The Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Email to Hotmail not working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Oxley wrote: I am unable to send email to hotmail. I thought I had a misconfiguration in sendmail, but I have just tried a telnet (See below). Although I can send emails to hotmail without an error or undeliverable report, none show up in my hotmail account unless I reply to an email I sent from my hotmail. Does anyone have any ideas? Cheers, Dave. Here's the telnet session with my email addresses modified for the archives ;) ~ # telnet mx4.hotmail.com 25 Trying 65.54.245.104... Connected to mx4.hotmail.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 bay0-mc9-f16.bay0.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or bulk e-mail to Microsoft's computer network is prohibited. Other restrictions are found at http://privacy.msn.com/Anti-spam/. Violations will result in use of equipment located in California and other states. Thu, 3 May 2007 06:06:06 -0700 helo daveoxley.co.uk 250 bay0-mc9-f16.bay0.hotmail.com (3.3.2.16) Hello [203.171.86.83] mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] data 354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF Subject: Test message Test 23:06 03/05 . 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Queued mail for delivery ^] telnet quit Connection closed. I had no SPF record for my domain name. Hotmail obviously rejects emails without this nowdays. http://www.openspf.org/ Cheers, Dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGOhwwx43ifHzpDVURAqmoAKCBX8c+dPgV4leV5e5NR6Nu6q8kMgCdH7yw h50QxkQunju+49M7gQ3Fvsk= =Iao3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] font problem after xorg-server upgrade
Hi, I spent some time to solve this kind of issue, but no results. In the GDM I got at least 400px high characters instead of 12 :) Using Beryl all windows do not refresh their contents, just a snapshot visible in the window area. If I resize the window, I got a new snapshot, but (ab)normally refresh are never happens: windows, popups, menus etc. I have this kind of graphics card in my fujitsu siemens amilo pi1505 laptop: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) With metacity seems everything working well, I have no font issues (except GDM login page). In xorg.conf the DisplaySize ignored. Does anybody have any positive results with the new xorg-server/i810 driver? Regards, István -- IT szolgáltatások, alkalmazásszolgáltatás http://www.osbusiness.hu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reducing disk usage
Hemmann, Volker Armin írta: On Donnerstag, 26. April 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: · fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Over a whole system this can add up to a few dozen more MB of space usable. This Depends largely on the type of files. I've got my portage tree on a reiserfs, and in comparison to ext3, it saves couple 100 (one-zero-zero) megs! back in the good old days, when 10gb was big for a harddrive, I saved 2GB by using reiserfs. From 9GB to 7GB used. And that was a 'simple' Suse installation+personal stuff. This is very big different. The filesystem space is problem for me. Use i reiserfs? Best regards, András --sorry for my englis... study :) --- -- - - -- Csányi András -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando -- Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport! -- Cromwell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reducing disk usage
2007. 05. 3, csütörtök keltezéssel 22.17-kor Csányi András ezt írta: This is very big different. The filesystem space is problem for me. Use i reiserfs? Best regards, András If I were you, yes. I use reiserfs for years and I have good experiences with it (fault tolerant, space efficient etc.). Or buy a bigger hard disk ;) IStván -- IT szolgáltatások, alkalmazásszolgáltatás http://www.osbusiness.hu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CFLAGS
Hemmann, Volker Armin írta: the howto is: remove the system and start from scratch. uhhh... 3 days before changed I the cpu type in /etc/make.conf file and recompile the system. And it is work without problems... I'm very lucky... Best regards, András ---sorry my english..., study --- -- - - -- Csányi András -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando -- Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport! -- Cromwell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CFLAGS
On 5/3/07, Csányi András [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin írta: the howto is: remove the system and start from scratch. uhhh... 3 days before changed I the cpu type in /etc/make.conf file and recompile the system. And it is work without problems... I'm very lucky... From what to what? Were you using march or mcpu? -- Ryan W Sims -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
