Re: [gentoo-user-pl] amd64 - zmiana procesora

2007-12-28 Thread michu
Witam,

po zmianie sprzętu w pierwszej kolejności uruchom kompa z płytki
Gentoo Live, potem zamontuj partycje ze swoim systemem i chroot
/mnt/twój_system /bin/bash env-update. Potem zmien flagi i:
emerge -e.

Jesli wszystko pojdzie dobrze, bedziesz mógł odpalic swój system.


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26-12-07, Tomasz Bakiera [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
 Witam,

 prawdopodobnie zmienię nieco swoją maszynkę. Głównym problemem jest to, że
 istnieje szansa zmiany procesora z Semprona64 na coś Intela (również 64). I
 teraz pytanie mnie nurtujące:
 Obecnie moje flagi dla GCC to -k8 (architektura amd64), co zrobić, aby w
 przypadku podpięcia dysku do innej maszyny (już z Intelem na pokładzie),
 dystrybucja chodziła?
 Inaczej: jak przekompilować system 'k8', tak aby po zmianie procesora na
 Intelowskie 64, z sytemu można było kożystać ?

 Cz aby zapewnić zgodność to przekompilować system jako np. 686 ??

 Nie bardzo wiem jak googlować, żeby znaleźć taką informację.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does this qualify as some bug ?

2007-12-28 Thread Ralf Stephan
 While trying to prevent 'net-dns/pdnsd' to listen on TCP and on to
 avoid TCP queries, I changed 'tcp_server' parameter to 'off' and
 'query_method' parameter to 'udp_only' in /etc/pdnsd/pdnsd.conf . But
 when I restarted pdnsd I found it is still listening on TCP. I checked
 /etc/conf.d/pdnsd and found no option related to listening to 'TCP'
 set. So, then I checked /etc/init.d/pdnsd and I found that 'pdnsd' has
 been launched with '-t' command line argument (enables the TCP server
 thread. pdnsd will then serve TCP and UDP queries.) . So to disable, I
 need to append '--notcp' to PDNSDCONFIG in /etc/conf.d/pdnsd. So I
 think, listening shouldn't be made by default, even if it is, then it
 should be in configuration file, not in init.d script .

Since noone answered, I'll try. I'm not into the details of your
problem but I have the impression your suggestion should be stated
to the pdnsd developing community, not on gentoo. I'd qualify it as
bug, but YMMV, and again, I don't know much about it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does this qualify as some bug ?

2007-12-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:20:37PM +0100, Ralf Stephan wrote:
  While trying to prevent 'net-dns/pdnsd' to listen on TCP and on to
  avoid TCP queries, I changed 'tcp_server' parameter to 'off' and
  'query_method' parameter to 'udp_only' in /etc/pdnsd/pdnsd.conf . But
  when I restarted pdnsd I found it is still listening on TCP. I checked
  /etc/conf.d/pdnsd and found no option related to listening to 'TCP'
  set. So, then I checked /etc/init.d/pdnsd and I found that 'pdnsd' has
  been launched with '-t' command line argument (enables the TCP server
  thread. pdnsd will then serve TCP and UDP queries.) . So to disable, I
  need to append '--notcp' to PDNSDCONFIG in /etc/conf.d/pdnsd. So I
  think, listening shouldn't be made by default, even if it is, then it
  should be in configuration file, not in init.d script .
 
 Since noone answered, I'll try. I'm not into the details of your
 problem but I have the impression your suggestion should be stated
 to the pdnsd developing community, not on gentoo. I'd qualify it as
 bug, but YMMV, and again, I don't know much about it.

If it is a problem of init script, then it is problem in gentoo. Init
scripts are distribution specific (at last, gentoo has different ones
that other distros AFAIK).

So, if you think it is a bug, put it into bugzilla. In the best case,
someone will do something about it. In the worst case, the bug will be
marked as invalid, wontfix, or something like that. Just don't get
annoyed if someone simply tells it is nonsense, the people going trough
bugs have too many of them and they are not always completely nice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does this qualify as some bug ?

2007-12-28 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
,--[ On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:20:37PM +0100, Ralf Stephan wrote:
|  While trying to prevent 'net-dns/pdnsd' to listen on TCP and on to
|  avoid TCP queries, I changed 'tcp_server' parameter to 'off' and
|  'query_method' parameter to 'udp_only' in /etc/pdnsd/pdnsd.conf . But
|  when I restarted pdnsd I found it is still listening on TCP. I checked
|  /etc/conf.d/pdnsd and found no option related to listening to 'TCP'
|  set. So, then I checked /etc/init.d/pdnsd and I found that 'pdnsd' has
|  been launched with '-t' command line argument (enables the TCP server
|  thread. pdnsd will then serve TCP and UDP queries.) . So to disable, I
|  need to append '--notcp' to PDNSDCONFIG in /etc/conf.d/pdnsd. So I
|  think, listening shouldn't be made by default, even if it is, then it
|  should be in configuration file, not in init.d script .
| 
| Since noone answered, I'll try. I'm not into the details of your
| problem but I have the impression your suggestion should be stated
| to the pdnsd developing community, not on gentoo. I'd qualify it as
| bug, but YMMV, and again, I don't know much about it.

Let me elaborate it a bit:

pdnsd is a DNS server capable of listening on TCP/UDP ports (depending
on options in configuration file and commandline). Options set on
commandline override what is set is configuration file. And, in init
script of this port, the option to listen on TCP ports, i.e. '-t'
switch, has been explicitly passed. So, there is no way, one can disable
listening on TCP from pdnsd.conf. So one, has to edit '/etc/conf.d/pdnsd'
and add --notcp option. In my view, from the point-of least privileges,
one has to explicitly turn on listening of daemon on port.

So its a problem on Gentoo porting side, not with the pdnsd team.

Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.23 and xorg delayed startup

2007-12-28 Thread Eric Martin
Michael George wrote:
 I just upgraded my kernel from 2.6.19 to 2.6.23 and it takes almost a
 minute for X to start now.

 I have changed window managers (normally ctwm, tested with twm) with the
 same results.  I rebooted the 2.6.19 kernel and X fires right up as
 expected.  Booting back to 2.6.23 and it's excruciatingly long.

 I saw some prior posts which indicated a network problem, but in that
 case the OP said that the loopback interface wasn't up.  I checked my
 system (ifconfig) and both lo and eth0 are up and running.
I see that you checked if it was up, but have you pinged 127.0.0.1? 
Also, could you possibly have firewall rules setup blocking things on
lo?  It's a shot in the dark but sometimes the oddest of problems have
the simplest of solutions.

HTH
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[gentoo-user] Which kernel option - PCnet32 driver

2007-12-28 Thread reader
In compiling a kernel for a vmware installation I'm not sure which
kernel option (2.6.23) under `Network Device Support' in make menuconfig
dialog is responsible for the pcnet32 driver.

None of the names there give it away.

Dmesg sees it like this:
  eth0: registered as PCnet/PCI II 79C970A

So the closest match I see is: PCI NE2000 and clones support (see
help) 

At least it contains PCI and nothing else seems to.

Anyone know if that is it?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Which kernel option - PCnet32 driver

2007-12-28 Thread reader
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 So the closest match I see is: PCI NE2000 and clones support (see
 help) 

 At least it contains PCI and nothing else seems to.

 Anyone know if that is it?

Never mind... after more digging I found it at:
 Device Drivers -
Network device support  ---   
 [*]   Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit)  ---
  M AMD PCnet32 PCI support

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.23 and xorg delayed startup

2007-12-28 Thread Michael George
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:18:55AM -0500, Eric Martin wrote:
 Michael George wrote:
  I just upgraded my kernel from 2.6.19 to 2.6.23 and it takes almost a
  minute for X to start now.
 
  I have changed window managers (normally ctwm, tested with twm) with the
  same results.  I rebooted the 2.6.19 kernel and X fires right up as
  expected.  Booting back to 2.6.23 and it's excruciatingly long.
 
  I saw some prior posts which indicated a network problem, but in that
  case the OP said that the loopback interface wasn't up.  I checked my
  system (ifconfig) and both lo and eth0 are up and running.

 I see that you checked if it was up, but have you pinged 127.0.0.1? 
 Also, could you possibly have firewall rules setup blocking things on
 lo?  It's a shot in the dark but sometimes the oddest of problems have
 the simplest of solutions.

Yes, it's up.  However, I think this error is a wild goose...

I rebooted to the 2.6.19 kernel and started X.  It came right up, and
this was the output of startx  startx.2.6.19 21:


xauth:  creating new authority file /home/george/.serverauth.6547


X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
Current Operating System: Linux brego 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 #5 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 8 
19:16:48 EST 2007 x86_64
Build Date: 22 December 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Dec 27 20:30:12 2007
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(EE) MGA(0): Static buffer allocation failed, not initializing the DRI
(EE) MGA(0): Need at least 15360 kB video memory at this resolution, bit depth
(EE) MGA(1): Not initializing the DRI on the second head
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 1 is not DRI capable
Couldn't establish a connection to :9202: IO::Socket::INET: Bad hostname ':9202'
access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
SetClientVersion: 0 9
ctwm:  unable to find bitmap 
ctwm:  unable to find bitmap 
ctwm:  unable to find bitmap 
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
  Major Opcode:  4
fetchmail: background fetchmail at 6646 killed.
xscreensaver: 20:30:27: SIGHUP received: restarting...
xscreensaver: 20:30:27: running as george/george (500/500)



waiting for X server to shut down XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by 
peer) on X server :0.0

  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

Console:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server :0.0

xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server :0.0

xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server :0.0

SchedTerm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server :0.0

SchedTerm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server :0.0

FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/share/fonts/misc refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.





Notice the 9202 error line.  I then rebooted back into 2.6.23 and
started X with startx  startx.2.6.23 21.  It took 1-2min to for me to get
my window environment, and here is the output of that run:

xauth:  creating new authority file /home/george/.serverauth.6950


X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
Current Operating System: Linux brego 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 #3 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 
23 21:35:17 EST 2007 x86_64
Build Date: 22 December 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Dec 27 20:32:51 2007
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(II) Module already built-in
(EE) MGA(0): Static buffer allocation failed, not initializing the DRI
(EE) MGA(0): Need at least 15360 kB video memory at this resolution, bit depth
(EE) MGA(1): Not initializing the DRI on the second head
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 1 is not 

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[gentoo-user] Re: how would I use device names in fstab?

2007-12-28 Thread Thufir
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:31:17 +, Stroller wrote:


 I'm not seeing any critical error messages in your output - could you
 perhaps explain what the problem is exactly?


I'll post some details later tonight, but data discs, blank media or 
music cd's -- none work.  When I boot into Fedora on the same machine, 
both drives (CD-ROM and CD-R/W) work fine.


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[gentoo-user] Memory stick problem

2007-12-28 Thread James Colby
All -

I am having a problem with my USB thumb drive. If the drive is connected
to the system on boot, the device file /dev/sdb is created, and I'm able
to mount and use my thumb drive normally. If I remove the thumb drive
and then replace it, or attach the thumb drive after the system has
booted, the device file is not created. Does anyone have any ideas as to
what may be causing this? I have tried a kernel with the USB drivers
compiled into the kernel and compiled as modules, and I get the same
thing. The output of dmesg is as follows:

usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 4 high speed
ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: GetStatus port 4 status 001005 POWER sig=se0 PE
CONNECT
usb 1-4: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 endpoint 0x83 has an invalid
bInterval 200, changing to 11
usb 1-4: default language 0x0409
usb 1-4: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
usb 1-4: Product: Actions Mtp Device 01
usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 6D621ABF495E2A428FBF6E6C854E549D
DEV: registering device: ID = '1-4'
PM: Adding info for usb:1-4
bus usb: add device 1-4
usb 1-4: uevent
usb: Matched Device 1-4 with Driver usb
usb: Probing driver usb with device 1-4
usb 1-4: usb_probe_device
DEV: registering device: ID = 'usbdev1.4_ep00'
PM: Adding info for No Bus:usbdev1.4_ep00
usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 1-4: adding 1-4:1.0 (config #1, interface 0)
DEV: registering device: ID = '1-4:1.0'
PM: Adding info for usb:1-4:1.0
bus usb: add device 1-4:1.0
usb 1-4:1.0: uevent
usb 1-4:1.0: uevent
DEV: registering device: ID = 'usbdev1.4_ep01'
PM: Adding info for No Bus:usbdev1.4_ep01
DEV: registering device: ID = 'usbdev1.4_ep82'
PM: Adding info for No Bus:usbdev1.4_ep82
DEV: registering device: ID = 'usbdev1.4_ep83'
PM: Adding info for No Bus:usbdev1.4_ep83
DEV: registering device: ID = 'usbdev1.4'
PM: Adding info for No Bus:usbdev1.4
drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '004'
bound device '1-4' to driver 'usb'
usb: Bound Device 1-4 to Driver usb

Any help with this issue would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving my instalation to new hard drive

2007-12-28 Thread Matthew R. Lee
Dear All,
Thanks for the advice.  I just successfully completed the transfer of my 
gentoo installation to the new hard drive.  I was able to install grub on the 
external drive successfully, obviating the need to boot with the live cd 
after swaping the drives.
I did however have one problem with the dev/ being a little messed up, but I 
followed the instructions in the /etc/issue file and that fix the problem, as 
far as I can tell :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync for backup, can anybody help

2007-12-28 Thread Roman Zilka
 symlink 
 /mnt/external/OneFileSystemBackup/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/libopcodes.so 
 - /usr/lib32/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.18/libopcodes.so 
 failed: Operation not permitted (1)

This is most likely caused by the FAT filesystem on the target device.
Just like a lot of other errors, probably. Symlinks do not exist on a
regular FAT.

Copying data from a unix/linux-ish filesystem to a FAT-based filesystem
is impossible without losing something (special files like symlinks,
sockets, devices etc., file ownership info and more). Maybe there are
some modern FAT variations capable of storing all this linux-specific
data (thinking of umsdos), but I dare doubt that's the case of your
backup drive.

If you're thinking of maybe recovering some important system files from
this backup sometime, change the backup drive's filesystem to something
more capable (the aforementioned ext2, for instance).

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[gentoo-user] No help on annoying `sandbox' error

2007-12-28 Thread reader
I'm having a continuing annoying problem from sandbox trying to write
out of its crib.

I've posted here twice before but caught no ones attention.
Possibly this is something screamingly obvious and people just ignored
the posts.

`sandbox' doesn't like my root .bash_history.
  ACCESS DENIED  open_rd:   /root/.bash_history
  ACCESS DENIED  open_rd:   /root/.bash_history

I see nothing really like this on bugzilla although their are other
access violations there.  I guess it needs to be turned in as a bug but
fisrst tell me if its really a bug or something to do with my
ill-informed setup.

It happens with any usage of emerge and unless I rename
/usr/bin/sandbox or remove /root/.bash_history, `sanbox' will block
any emerge action.

Renaming it seems the easiest, then portage reports the problem but
continues anyway.

I tried making bash write it history to something else like
BASH_HITORY but sandbox tracks it down and squawks about BASH_HISTORY
then. 

`file' reports .bash_history to be the expected `ascii text file'

If I delete bash_history and there is a complex emerge underway like
updating world, then sooner or later bash writes a new one and emerge
screeches to a halt.

I'm sorry but I couldn't really make much sense of the sandbox bugs on
bugzilla or what to do about my problem.

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[gentoo-user] ksh(93) emerge failure

2007-12-28 Thread reader
On a new install with profile `hardened/x86/2.6'.  I'm finding that
ksh will not emerge successfully.  The closing error is not very
enlightening, at least not to me:

  * Messages for package app-shells/ksh-93.20040229:

 * ERROR: app-shells/ksh-93.20040229 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *ebuild.sh, line 1701:  Called dyn_compile
 *ebuild.sh, line 1039:  Called qa_call 'src_compile'
 *ebuild.sh, line   44:  Called src_compile
 *   ksh-93.20040229.ebuild, line   51:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  cd ${S}; ./bin/package only make ast-ksh CC=$(tc-getCC) || die
 *  The die message:
 *   (no error message)

In the days before ksh93 (circa 2003/4) was an ebuild (or maybe I just
didn't know it was) it was a right pain to build and install it by
hand.

I've never understood the unusual build process of the KORN tools and
I see emerge go thru truly massive work to build it too.  So the
chances of me finding what went wrong is just about non-existent.

Near as I can tell the closest thing to a similar bug that got
reported was in 2004 and it appears the only helpfull part of that was
setting `nls' as one of the USE items.

emerge is using `nls' and `-static' here.  `nls' enables native
language support using gettext which I do have installed, also with
`nls' use set.

==

I've just noticed something by running `emerge -vDp ksh', it wants a
different compiler than I have installed.

gcc-4.1.1-r3 got installed when I started building up this new system.

ksh apparently wants: 

[ebuild NS ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6-r2 USE=hardened nls (-altivec)
-bootstrap -boundschecking -build -d -doc -fortran -gcj -gtk -ip28
-ip32r10k -multilib -multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -nopie -nossp
-objc -test -vanilla

as a `Deep' dependancy.

Will I be really messing up my new system if I install two version of
gcc?  And secondly how does the right one get used for ksh?

I can live without ksh of course but I do have quite a few homemade
scripts that depend on ksh.  Many of them will need some recoding even
to use pdksh as I recall.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ksh(93) emerge failure

2007-12-28 Thread Hieu, Luu Danh
 Will I be really messing up my new system if I install two version of
 gcc?  And secondly how does the right one get used for ksh?

I believe you can maintain two different gcc versions (3.x and 4.x)
with the multislot USE flag. A gentoo tool is provided for you to
switch between the versions, but I'm not sure if ksh would recognize
which gcc to use. AFAIK, installing both gcc 3.x and 4.x has little
effect if you know exactly what you're doing.
Anyway, good luck on getting that to work mate.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.23 and xorg delayed startup

2007-12-28 Thread Michael George
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 01:47:53PM -0500, Michael George wrote:
 
 Notice there is little difference between them.  I think I need to trim
 out my .xinitrc file and see if there is something I'm starting from
 there that is causing the delay with a different kernel...

I don't see anything in my .xinitrc file that would be causing the
problem.  Here are the contents of that file:

#!/bin/sh

DISPLAY=${DISPLAY-unix:0}; export DISPLAY
RDISPLAY=${RDISPLAY-`hostname`:0}; export RDISPLAY

# I've tried taking this line out and it doesn't speed anything up...
sh /usr/local/src/ltsp-server-pkg-static-0.1/xsession-lbus-start 

# Change the keys around
xmodmap .xmodmap.pass1
xmodmap .xmodmap.pass2

# Load .Xdefaults into the X resource database
xrdb -nocpp -display $DISPLAY -load .Xdefaults

# Start a console window.  This line should not be removed.
xterm -T Console -n Console -name Console -C -iconic +vb -geometry =80x14-0+0 

# Start another xterm
xterm -display $DISPLAY -geometry 80x50+0-0 -T Shell -n Shell 
sleep 1
xterm -display $DISPLAY -geometry 80x50-1280-0 -T Shell -n Shell 

# Start a terminal for the schedule screen
xterm -display $DISPLAY -name SchedTerm -geometry 80x50+0-0 -T Shell -n 
Shell 
sleep 1
xterm -display $DISPLAY -name SchedTerm -geometry 80x50-1280-0 -T Shell -n 
Shell 

xcalendar -name xIdeal -display $DISPLAY 

gkrellm 
xload -display $DISPLAY 
gkrellm2 -c secondary 

xcalendar -name xHopper11 -display $DISPLAY 

xdaliclock 

# open up my planner
xcalendar -display $DISPLAY 

# Set the background
# I've run this script manually and it doesn't take long at all to run
(sleep 1; $HOME/bin/background) 

#turn on the screensaver
xscreensaver 

#disable access control
xhost +

# Make the mouse move a little faster than normal
xset m 3 4
# Make the keys repeat more quickly
xset r rate 300 20

# start fetchmail
fetchmail

#Start the window manager
ctwm

#fix keyboard
/usr/bin/kbd_mode -a

# stop fetchmail
fetchmail --quit

#clear


There isn't anything there that I can see which would cause the 2min.
delay in even getting an X mouse pointer...

I'm leaning toward some strange type of Xorg -- kernel interaction,
but I'm not sure what it might be...

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