Re: [gentoo-user] Any reason to keep older gcc?

2007-12-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 03:38:37AM +, Qian Qiao wrote

> 1. make sure USE flags for all your packages are properly set, don't
> use USE=flag emerge package, actually edit /etc/portage/package.use

  I always put USE flags in package.use; not on the commandline

> 2. do a emerge --deep --newuse --update world so that all packages
> pick up the correct USE flags and hence dependent libraries.

  I did that before posting.

  I went through the list, and I've unmerged what I could get away with,
and reduced the count down from 74 to 53.  I don't think I can go much
further.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any reason to keep older gcc?

2007-12-29 Thread Qian Qiao
On Dec 30, 2007 2:58 AM, Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 02:41:55AM +, Qian Qiao wrote
>
> > The usual suspects? It should list nothing if the dependencies are
> > handled properly.
>
>   OK, I'll admit that I cheated somewhat when installing Gentoo.
>   - I started off with a basic stage 3 install
>   - I did *NOT* emerge X; I ran "emerge bbkeys"
>   - bbkeys is the keyboard macro manager for blackbox, so it obviously
> depends on blackbox
>   - blackbox is a Window Manager, so it depends on X
>   - X depends on a gazillion libraries
>
>   I let portage sort out what to pull in.  See attachment dep.txt for a
> list of depclean suggestions.  See attachment deplist.txt for output of
> a script that ran "equery depends" on all the suggested packages to
> remove.
>

Portage should handle transitive dependencies no problem, so my guess
is that you have your system for a long time, and over the period,
this is what happened:
- package-old.version, pulled in dependency-some.version, which
depends on further-dependency-some.other.version
- package was upgraded to package-new.version which doesn't depend on
dependency-some.version anymore
- you have dependency-some.version on your system, which depends on
further-dependency-some.other.version, but isn't really reachable by
the current dependency tree
- depclean tries to get rid of those, but produces a very scary output
with seemingly useful packages listed.

I cannot be 100% sure on that, so I recommend you do the following steps

1. make sure USE flags for all your packages are properly set, don't
use USE=flag emerge package, actually edit /etc/portage/package.use
2. do a emerge --deep --newuse --update world so that all packages
pick up the correct USE flags and hence dependent libraries.
3. emerge -pv depclean, it'll explain what pulled what in.
4. At this point, it should be safe to emerge depclean to get rid of
the obsolete dependencies
5. revdep-rebuild

> > Try "equery depends =gcc-3*", without the quotes obviously.
> >
> > If none of the packages you installed depends on gcc-3*, you should be
> > able to get rid of it safely.
>
> [m3000][root][~] equery depends =gcc-3*
> [ Searching for packages depending on =gcc-3*... ]
> sys-libs/glibc-2.6.1 (>=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4)
> sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6 (>=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3_pre20040130)
> www-client/links-2.1_pre28-r1 (sys-devel/gcc)
>
>   It looks like nothing depends on gcc-3*.

looks safe to me. Don't forget a revdep-rebuild after the "emerge -C =gcc-3*"

HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] error in emerge for xmlto-0.0.18

2007-12-29 Thread Alma J. Wetzker
I may have spoken too soon.  This is an error that has been going on for
over two years, according to the archive.  I attempted all the hacks, in
order, as they were listed in the thread.  They didn't work.  Then I
tried them again.  This time, the package emerged.  Something was order
dependent, I have no idea what.  It was either emerging the new docbook
stylesheets or linking to the old directory
'/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xsl-stylsheets-1.66.1'.  Not certain what it
was, but it is working now.  Thanks for the reply.

-- Alma

David Relson wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:49:54 -0600
> Alma J. Wetzker wrote:
> 
>> I am trying to update a very old install of gentoo.  The portage
>> emerge is stuck on the xmlto package.
>>
> ...[snip]...
> 
>> I can't find a reference to sourceforge in any of the files in the
>> work directory.  Where do I put the docbook.xsl file?  Am I missing
>> something else?  I never got very complex in my make syntax, so I am
>> completely lost in trying to decipher where the error is even
>> occurring.
>>
>> -- Alma
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> 
> I don't know much about docbook.xsl except that my gentoo
> system has it at  
> /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-1.70.1/fo/docbook.xsl
>  and "paludis --owner  docbook.xsl" reports that it's owned by
> package docbook-xsl-stylesheets.  You might try emerging that to see if
> it help.
> 
> David
> 

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[gentoo-user] sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6 dies!

2007-12-29 Thread Anders Trobäck
Hi,

I'm trying to run 'emerge -uDN world' but it's dies on
sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6.

Here are some info:
8<--
make TARGETS=oneprocess SHELL="/bin/tcsh" CC="gcc" CFLAGS="
-march=prescott -O2 -pipe s -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wtraditional -pedantic -Wno-long-long -DHA FLAGS=""
LIBERTY="/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6/work/build/gcc/../libib
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6/work/build/g /bin/tcsh 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6/work/gcc-3.3.6/gcc/fixinc/genfi
SHELL=/bin/sh: Command not found. export: Command not found.
if: Expression Syntax.
make[2]: *** [machname.h] Fel 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6/work/build/gc make[1]:
*** [fixinc.sh] Fel 2 make[1]: *** Inväntar oavslutade jobb...
done
Forming and outputing automata tables...done
Output functions to work with automata...done

Automaton `pentium'
   48 NDFA states, 90 NDFA arcs
   48 DFA states,  90 DFA arcs
   20 minimal DFA states,  62 minimal DFA arcs
   29 all insns 16 insn equivalence classes
   62 transition comb vector els,   320 trans table els: use comb vect
   62 state alts comb vector els,   320 state alts table els: use comb
vect 768 min delay table els, compression factor 2

Automaton `pentium_fpu'
   80 NDFA states,172 NDFA arcs
   80 DFA states, 172 DFA arcs
   75 minimal DFA states, 162 minimal DFA arcs
   29 all insns  8 insn equivalence classes
  164 transition comb vector els,   600 trans table els: use comb vect
  164 state alts comb vector els,   600 state alts table els: use comb
vect 640 min delay table els, compression factor 1

  237 all allocated states,   236 all allocated arcs
  342 all allocated alternative states
  226 all transition comb vector els,   920 all trans table els
  226 all state alts comb vector els,   920 all state alts table els
 1408 all min delay table els
   12 locked states num

  transformation: 0.004001, building DFA: 0.012000
  DFA minimization: 0.00, making insn equivalence: 0.00
 all automaton generation: 0.012000, output: 0.004000
/bin/sh 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6/work/gcc-3.3.6/gcc/move-if-change
echo timestamp > s-attrtab
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6/work/build/gc make: ***
[all-gcc] Fel 2
 * 
 * ERROR: sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line 1701:  Called dyn_compile
 *   ebuild.sh, line 1039:  Called qa_call 'src_compile'
 *   ebuild.sh, line   44:  Called src_compile
 *   libstdc++-v3-3.3.6.ebuild, line  228:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  S="${WORKDIR}/build" \
 *  emake all-target-libstdc++-v3 \
 *  LIBPATH="${LIBPATH}" \
 *  BOOT_CFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" STAGE1_CFLAGS="-O" || die
 *  The die message:
 *   (no error message)
 * 
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6/te
 * 

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Anyone have a clue?

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Re: [gentoo-user] error in emerge for xmlto-0.0.18

2007-12-29 Thread David Relson
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:49:54 -0600
Alma J. Wetzker wrote:

> I am trying to update a very old install of gentoo.  The portage
> emerge is stuck on the xmlto package.
> 
...[snip]...

> I can't find a reference to sourceforge in any of the files in the
> work directory.  Where do I put the docbook.xsl file?  Am I missing
> something else?  I never got very complex in my make syntax, so I am
> completely lost in trying to decipher where the error is even
> occurring.
> 
> -- Alma
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I don't know much about docbook.xsl except that my gentoo
system has it at  /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-1.70.1/fo/docbook.xsl
 and "paludis --owner  docbook.xsl" reports that it's owned by
package docbook-xsl-stylesheets.  You might try emerging that to see if
it help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any reason to keep older gcc?

2007-12-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 02:41:55AM +, Qian Qiao wrote

> The usual suspects? It should list nothing if the dependencies are
> handled properly.

  OK, I'll admit that I cheated somewhat when installing Gentoo.
  - I started off with a basic stage 3 install
  - I did *NOT* emerge X; I ran "emerge bbkeys"
  - bbkeys is the keyboard macro manager for blackbox, so it obviously
depends on blackbox
  - blackbox is a Window Manager, so it depends on X
  - X depends on a gazillion libraries

  I let portage sort out what to pull in.  See attachment dep.txt for a
list of depclean suggestions.  See attachment deplist.txt for output of
a script that ran "equery depends" on all the suggested packages to
remove.

> Try "equery depends =gcc-3*", without the quotes obviously.
> 
> If none of the packages you installed depends on gcc-3*, you should be
> able to get rid of it safely.

[m3000][root][~] equery depends =gcc-3*
[ Searching for packages depending on =gcc-3*... ]
sys-libs/glibc-2.6.1 (>=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4)
sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6 (>=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3_pre20040130)
www-client/links-2.1_pre28-r1 (sys-devel/gcc)

  It looks like nothing depends on gcc-3*.

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>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 media-libs/gd

 app-crypt/hashalot

 app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd
selected: 3.1-r3 4.0-r3 4.1-r3 4.2-r2 4.4 
   protected: none 
 omitted: 3.0-r3 

 www-client/links

 x11-proto/dmxproto

 dev-perl/Archive-Zip

 dev-perl/SGMLSpm

 dev-libs/xalan-c

 x11-libs/libXprintAppUtil

 media-libs/ftgl

 x11-libs/libFS

 sys-libs/gpm

 sys-apps/tcp-wrappers

 x11-libs/qt

 x11-apps/xdm

 x11-libs/gtk+

 sys-libs/cracklib

 sys-libs/pwdb

 dev-libs/xerces-c

 dev-cpp/libbinio

 x11-libs/libdmx

 media-libs/musicbrainz

 sys-libs/db

 dev-util/gperf

 sys-libs/gdbm

 app-text/texi2html

 x11-apps/xsetroot

 x11-themes/xcursor-themes

 sys-apps/xinetd

 virtual/x11

 media-gfx/fontforge

 dev-libs/libol

 x11-libs/liboldX

 media-libs/libprojectm

 app-text/docbook-xml-dtd selected: 4.4-r1 
 omitted: 4.1.2-r6 4.2-r1 4.3 

 sys-devel/automake selected: 1.4_p6 1.8.5-r3 
 omitted: 1.5 1.6.3 1.7.9-r1 1.9.6-r2 1.10 

 dev-perl/Locale-gettext

 app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd

 x11-apps/xdriinfo

 x11-libs/libXvMC

 dev-libs/glib selected: 1.2.10-r5 
 omitted: 2.14.3 

 app-doc/doxygen

 x11-libs/libXevie

 x11-libs/libXTrap

 x11-apps/sessreg

 sys-apps/hotplug-base

 dev-python/docutils

 sys-devel/dev86

 dev-libs/libical

 media-gfx/xloadimage

 dev-python/python-docs

 media-gfx/graphviz

 app-doc/opengl-manpages

 app-doc/xorg-sgml-doctools

 x11-themes/gentoo-xcursors

 x11-apps/ttmkfdir

 app-admin/eselect-timidity

 net-libs/gecko-sdk

 x11-libs/libXprintUtil

 app-text/docbook-sgml-utils

 x11-apps/xcursorgen

 net-print/cups

 app-portage/portage-manpages

 media-libs/libsndfile

 x11-libs/wxGTK

 x11-base/opengl-update

 app-shells/tcsh

 sys-devel/gcc
selected: 3.4.6-r2 
 omitted: 4.1.2 

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

Packages installed:   503
Packages in world:97
Packages in system:   55
Unique package names: 503
Required packages:429
Number to remove: 74
 
Checking for dependancies on media-libs/gd
media-gfx/graphviz-2.12
media-libs/libwmf-0.2.8.4
 
Checking for dependancies on app-crypt/hashalot
sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r8
 
Checking for dependancies on app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd
app-doc/xorg-docs-1.4-r1
app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14
dev-libs/libusb-0.1.12-r1
dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2
media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc1_p20070824
net-misc/iputils-20070202
 
Checking for dependancies on www-client/links
 
Checking for dependancies on x11-proto/dmxproto
x11-apps/xdpyinfo-1.0.2
x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r2
x11-libs/libdmx-1.0.2
 
Checking for dependancies on dev-perl/Archive-Zip
 
Checking for dependancies on dev-perl/SGMLSpm
app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14
net-misc/iputils-20070202
 
Checking for dependancies on dev-libs/xalan-c
 
Checking for dependancies on x11-libs/libXprintAppUtil
virtual/x11-7.0-r2
 
Checking for dependancies on media-libs/ftgl
media-libs/libprojectm-0.99-r1
 
Checking for dependancies on x11-libs/libFS
virtual/x11-7.0-r2
 
Checking for dependancies on sys-libs/gpm
app-editors/vim-7.1.123
app-misc/mc-4.6.1-r4
sys-libs/ncurses-5.6-r1
www-client/links-2.1_pre28-r1
www-client/w3m-0.5.2-r1
 
Checking for dependancies on sys-apps/tcp-wrappers
app-admin/syslog-ng-2.0.6
net-misc/openssh-4.7_p1-r1
sys-apps/xinetd-2.3.14
 
Checking for dependancies on x11-libs/qt
app-crypt/pinentry-0.7.3
app-doc/doxygen-1.5.2
 
Checking for dependancies on x11-apps/xdm
virtual/x11-7.0-r2
 
Checking for dependancies on x11-libs/gtk+
app-crypt/pinentry-0.7.3
app-office/abiword-2.4.6
app-office/gnumeric-1.6.3
app-text/ghostscript-esp-8.15.3
gnome-base/gail-1.20.1
gnome-base/libglade-2.6

[gentoo-user] error in emerge for xmlto-0.0.18

2007-12-29 Thread Alma J. Wetzker
I am trying to update a very old install of gentoo.  The portage emerge
is stuck on the xmlto package.

make  all-am
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/work/xmlto-0.0.18'
if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -O3
-march=pentium3 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -MT xmlif/xmlif.o
-MD -MP -MF "xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Tpo" -c -o xmlif/xmlif.o `test -f
'xmlif/xmlif.c' || echo './'`xmlif/xmlif.c; \
then mv -f "xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Tpo" "xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Po"; else rm -f
"xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
distcc[9440] (dcc_get_hostlist) Warning: no hostlist is set; can't
distribute work
distcc[9440] (dcc_build_somewhere) Warning: failed to distribute,
running locally instead
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O3 -march=pentium3 -mcpu=i686
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe   -o xmlif/xmlif  xmlif/xmlif.o
for xml in xmlif.xml xmlto.xml; do \
  FORMAT_DIR=./format XSL_DIR=./xsl \
   bash ./xmlto -o man/man1 man ./doc/$xml ; \
done || ( RC=$?; cat ./FAQ; exit $RC )
warning: failed to load external entity
"http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl";
compilation error: file
/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/temp/xmlto-xsl.QUQfA5 line 4 element import
xsl:import : unable to load
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl
warning: failed to load external entity
"http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl";
compilation error: file
/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/temp/xmlto-xsl.8MToXI line 4 element import
xsl:import : unable to load
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl

Q: I'm trying to build xmlto on my Debian box, but it doesn't work.

A: If you get `Attempt to load network entity' errors when building
   xmlto, your system does not have the required support for XML
   Catalogs
   (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/entity/spec-2001-08-06.html).
   In particular, Debian has no support for these.  Try the Fedora
   Project .
make[1]: *** [man/man1/xmlto.1] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/work/xmlto-0.0.18'
make: *** [all] Error 2



I can't find a reference to sourceforge in any of the files in the work
directory.  Where do I put the docbook.xsl file?  Am I missing something
else?  I never got very complex in my make syntax, so I am completely
lost in trying to decipher where the error is even occurring.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

2007-12-29 Thread András Csányi
2007/12/29, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The solution is the next:
> > - use fglrx (you have to test the 3D rendering with fgl_fglxgears command)
> > - use mplayer with -vo gl or -vo gl2 option (the gl and gl2 is opengl
> > video output)
> >
> I have fglrx and verified it works.  I have not tried mplayer. Does
> mplayer work better than other players?

My opinion the mplayer is the best media player.
I tryed gxine, vlc but the mplayer is the best for me. Look the man
page (i think this is really big)  and you will see the options.

András

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Re: [gentoo-user] Paludis newbie questions [was: Excellent Paludis interview]

2007-12-29 Thread David Relson
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:48:21 +0100
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

> On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:56:40 David Relson wrote:
> > I suspect a better worded message would have let me find the
> > mistake
> 
> Such as?

Hi Bo,
I'm not really sure, but the message's reference to "environment" didn't
indicate (to me) a problem in the use flags.  "environment" wasn't
definite enough for me to even have a clue where to look or what to
look for.  Perhaps one of the following would work:

"hyphen not immediately followed by use flags"

"space not allowed after hyphen in use flags"

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync for backup, can anybody help

2007-12-29 Thread Paul Stear
On Friday 28 December 2007, Roman Zilka wrote:
> > symlink
> > "/mnt/external/OneFileSystemBackup/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/libopcod
> >es.so" -> "/usr/lib32/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.18/libopcodes.so"
> > failed: Operation not permitted (1)
>
> This is most likely caused by the FAT filesystem on the target device.
> Just like a lot of other errors, probably. Symlinks do not exist on a
> regular FAT.
>
> Copying data from a unix/linux-ish filesystem to a FAT-based filesystem
> is impossible without losing something (special files like symlinks,
> sockets, devices etc., file ownership info and more). Maybe there are
> some modern FAT variations capable of storing all this linux-specific
> data (thinking of umsdos), but I dare doubt that's the case of your
> backup drive.
>
> If you're thinking of maybe recovering some important system files from
> this backup sometime, change the backup drive's filesystem to something
> more capable (the aforementioned ext2, for instance).
>
> -rz

Thanks Roman,
I had come to that conclusion so I have formated my external usb disc with 
ext3 and am running the backup now.  So far all seems well.
Thanks for all who helped me with this problem especially Neil and Roman.
Paul

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Re: [gentoo-user] Paludis newbie questions [was: Excellent Paludis interview]

2007-12-29 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:56:40 David Relson wrote:
> I suspect a better worded message would have let me find the
> mistake

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

2007-12-29 Thread Drew Tomlinson

On 12/25/2007 9:49 AM András Csányi said the following:

2007/12/25, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci
detects it as:

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon
Xpress 1100 IGP]

However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a
bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.  Keeping the
video smaller in a window produces much better results.  As you might
expect, the larger the video picture, the worse the jumpiness gets.
Results are the same with both Totem and VLC.

I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and
verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that
matters for displaying video).

Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware?  I can post my
xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve performance.



Hi!

I have this problem but i have another ATI inegrated card
(01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon
Xpress 200M])

The solution is the next:
- use fglrx (you have to test the 3D rendering with fgl_fglxgears command)
- use mplayer with -vo gl or -vo gl2 option (the gl and gl2 is opengl
video output)
  
I have fglrx and verified it works.  I have not tried mplayer. Does 
mplayer work better than other players?

I hope i can help you.

András

ps.: sorry my english :)
  

Your English is good.

Thanks,

Drew


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Autoreply: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

2007-12-29 Thread rcupardo

Salve,
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Risponderò al messaggio al mio ritorno.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

2007-12-29 Thread Drew Tomlinson

On 12/25/2007 10:19 AM Grant Edwards said the following:

On 2007-12-25, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci 
detects it as:


01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon 
Xpress 1100 IGP]


However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a 
bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.



It's pretty hard to believe that the video hardware is the
problem.  I've played back DVDs on laptop ATI chipsets a decade
older than yours and it worked fine.  I've currently got a two
year old ATI laptop chipset (X300?), and it has no trouble
playing DVDs using either the Radeon or the fglrx drive.

My guess is the optical drive doesn't have DMA enabled.
  
DMA is enabled.  If it were not, I would also expect to see the 
choppiness no matter what the video size.


tagalong conf.d # hdparm /dev/hdb  


/dev/hdb:
IO_support=  0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq =  0 (off)
using_dma =  1 (on)
keepsettings  =  0 (off)
readonly  =  0 (off)
readahead = 256 (on)


You may want to check to make sure the XV video overlay support
is enabled, but even without it, playing back SD video purely
in software shouldn't be a problem on anything with a CPU
faster than 500MHz.
  


How can I verify XV video overlay support?  I'm sure my CPU is capable 
as its an AMD Turion dual core running at 1.6ghz.


Thanks,

Drew


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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

2007-12-29 Thread Drew Tomlinson

On 12/25/2007 8:56 AM Stroller said the following:


On 25 Dec 2007, at 15:59, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

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I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and 
verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that 
matters for displaying video).


Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware?  I can post my 
xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve 
performance.


You should demonstrate that your xorg.conf is referencing the 
appropriate ATi driver.


Stroller.
Thank you for your reply.  I'm not sure how to demonstrate other that 
pasting the relevant section xorg log:


(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
   compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.43.2
   Module class: X.Org Video Driver

Is this sufficient?

Thanks,

Drew

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how would I use device names in fstab?

2007-12-29 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 28. Dezember 2007 schrieb Thufir:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:31:17 +, Stroller wrote:
> > I'm not seeing any critical error messages in your output - could you
> > perhaps explain what the problem is exactly?
>
> I'll post some details later tonight, but data discs, blank media or
> music cd's -- none work.  When I boot into Fedora on the same machine,
> both drives (CD-ROM and CD-R/W) work fine.

Are the device files (links) present in /dev (ll /dev/cdr*)?

Maybe no CDRom driver in your kernel or module not loaded? Or no iso9660 
filesystem module?

Could you post your kernel config, please.

Bye...

Dirk


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