Re: [gentoo-user] What is setting "<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0" ????

2008-04-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 02 April 2008, Walter Dnes wrote:
> ...as saying that some other program required a version of openmotif
> which was <= 2.3.0.  I figure that an older version of program x
> should not be considered as a "block" to a newer version of program
> x.  Isn't that the whole point of "--update"?


It usually works this way but not always. There's some history behind 
this one, the devs want user to have only one motif package installed 
so blockers have been installed in newer ebuilds to force upgrades and 
removals.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] vmware virtual disk expanded but invisible in VM

2008-04-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 02 April 2008, fei huang wrote:
> I think this probably only works in the case that the raw free space
> is phyically located beside the specified partition, imagine there
> are sda1, sda2 in sequence, when new space available, resize only
> possible to sda2, and with a disk with 4 primary partitions, this
> won't help either..  am I  right?   ~

Correct. This is reason 1 of many that LVM should always be used.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] vmware virtual disk expanded but invisible in VM

2008-04-01 Thread fei huang
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday 01 April 2008, fei huang wrote:
> > thank you for the reply, actually I've heard about this solution, and
> > tried to use resize2fs to expand my filesystem (ext3), the problem is
> > I didn't know how to use it, what does the "new size" parameter mean?
> > the additional size or the new complete size?  and the device must be
> > a partition rather than the whole disk, otherwise, it complains "Bad
> > magic number in super-block", and for a partition, it complains size
> > not match or too large. any ideas?
>
> You have to resize the "thing" on which the filesystem resides. In other
> words, this is the first parameter you would supply when mounting it.
> If your filesystem is a whole disk, then you resize the disk. If it's a
> partition, then supply the partition device node as parameter. Similar
> with LVM volumes, raid volumes or whatever other gadget your filesystem
> is on.
>
> resize2fs is quite smart, if you don't supply a size, it expands the
> filesystem to take up the entire device. Let's say the filesystem is
> on /dev/sda3, you would then just do:
>
> resize2fs /dev/sda3
>
> Don't worry about unmounting the device or anything like that, growing a
> filesystem can be done live and on-line
>

I think this probably only works in the case that the raw free space is
phyically located beside the specified partition, imagine there are sda1,
sda2 in sequence, when new space
available, resize only possible to sda2, and with a disk with 4 primary
partitions, this won't help either..  am I  right?   ~

resize didn't work for me, I backup my data, and recreated the partition
with a new size, old way but make more sense to me. thanks so much, I'll try
it later in another VM in my office.

regards
fei


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:18:05 -0600
darren kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> quoth the Dan Farrell:
> 
> > net benefit of 2008.0:  none.
> 
> The benefit is that the beta gets tested, and we all move that much
> closer to a stable 2008.0 release. 

True, I suppose.  I tend to be a little draconian with my dismissal of
the liveCDs I guess.  I usually install from another system these
days.  

> > net drawback of 2008.0: hassle (beta)
> 
> -d
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:18:33 +0100
Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dan Farrell wrote:
> > Install from 2007.0 with interet:
> > - most recent stage3
> > - most recent portage
> > therefore most recent system
> > Install from 2008.0-beta with internet:
> > - same stage3
> > - same portage
> > therefore same system
> >
> > net benefit of 2008.0:  none.
> > net drawback of 2008.0: hassle (beta)
> 
> Wrong. There is a 2008.0-beta stage to go with the Install/LiveCD. 
> Alternatively, you can use an updated  2007.0  stage  from  Funtoo  
> (Daniel  Robbins) with either. ;)
> 
> Be lucky,
> Neil
>  
> 
All right, fair enough.  A new beta stage.  But still probably not
perfectly current, nor optimized for the system.  Darren's reason was
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Jesús Guerrero
Hello,

In addition to what the people already said in this thread:

Note that, even if a card doesn't work with the latest driver,
it doesn't mean it's discontinued and/or unsupported. That's a
complete misunderstanding.

Nvidia continues developing and fixing bugs in the previous
branches when necessary. Obviously, new features that goes into
the current branch can't be backported, since the older cards just
lack the hardware support for such features. But the older branches
still get occasional updates if a bug is detected or there's any
other problem that requires attention.

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[gentoo-user] mod_perl2+apache 2.2.8+static

2008-04-01 Thread Felipe de Jesús Molina Bravo
Hi 

Are there some how to for static building of mod_perl2 with apache
(2.2.8)?

the modperl ebuild in portage is DSO ... I don't find any flag for
static ...

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[gentoo-user]  Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Gregory Shearman
James wrote:

> Volker Armin Hemmann  tu-clausthal.de> writes:
> 
> 
>> > NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
> 
>> that is not true. Both cards are still supported by nvidia drivers.
> 
> 
>> The FX card ist even supported by the latest drivers!
> Yep I got this one(FX 5200) working with the lastest driver.
> 
> 
> 
>> The Gf2 based ones are supported by the 7186 drivers - which are even in
>> portage.
> 
> 
> Hmmm,
> I'm using 2.6.24-gentoo-r3.
> 
> Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01
> 
> *** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***
> 
> make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
>  *
>  * ERROR: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 failed.
>  * Call stack:
>  *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
>  * environment, line 3558:  Called linux-mod_src_compile
>  * environment, line 2624:  Called die
>  * The specific snippet of code:
>  *   emake HOSTCC="$(tc-getBUILD_CC)" CC="$(get-KERNEL_CC)"
> LDFLAGS="$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)" ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
> ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die "Unable to make ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
> ${BUILD_TARGETS}.";
>  *  The die message:
>  *   Unable to make  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux
> SYSOUT=/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/build clean module.
> 
> 
> I've never seen this before
> " Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the
> kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify
> their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or
> the equivalent nvidia-installer command line option."
> 
> So where/how do I set the SYSSRC variable?
> 
> Or is something else wrong?

I had the same problem going from 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 to 2.6.24-gentoo-r3 using 
the legacy nvida 96.43.01 driver. The masked 96,43.05 driver works on the new 
kernel,but it is unstable on my old Geforce MX 440 card.

What I did discover was a nasty hack to get the old driver to recognise the 
new kernel version:

# ln -s  /usr/src/linux/include/asm-x86 /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386

( This assumes that /usr/src/linux points to the new kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r3)

It looks like the kernel devs are trying to update references to the include
asm files and the nvidia devs are yet to catch up. Maybe one day nvidia will 
release its driver specs and save itself a lot of trouble and money building 
catchup linux drivers. Maybe hell will also freeze over on that day.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is setting "<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0" ????

2008-04-01 Thread Dale

Walter Dnes wrote:

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 05:48:22AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote

  

emerge unmerge openmotif
emerge openmotif



  Thanks; it worked.  Actually, I unmerged openmotif, and then went
right to the update of world.  I misread the diagnostic message...

"<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0 (is blocking x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0-r1)"

...as saying that some other program required a version of openmotif
which was <= 2.3.0.  I figure that an older version of program x should
not be considered as a "block" to a newer version of program x.  Isn't
that the whole point of "--update"?

  


I can see how that would be confusing.  I have done that myself.  
Generally though, whatever has the word block next to it, has to be 
removed.  Just make sure it is not something that portage needs.  I have 
never had to remove python or anything critical that I can recall but if 
you are unsure, ask first by all means.  Better safe than sorry.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is setting "<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0" ????

2008-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 2. April 2008, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 05:48:22AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
>
> > emerge unmerge openmotif
> > emerge openmotif
>
>   Thanks; it worked.  Actually, I unmerged openmotif, and then went
> right to the update of world.  I misread the diagnostic message...
>
> "<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0 (is blocking x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0-r1)"
>
> ...as saying that some other program required a version of openmotif
> which was <= 2.3.0.  I figure that an older version of program x should
> not be considered as a "block" to a newer version of program x.  Isn't
> that the whole point of "--update"?

well, maybe it was done to make sure that there is a proper cleanup?

You have to ask the devs why they did it that way ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] memory upgrade

2008-04-01 Thread Dani Crisan


That is not what mine shows tho.

 *-memory
  description: System Memory
  physical id: 1b
  slot: System board or motherboard
  size: 1GB
  capacity: 1536MB
*-bank:0
 description: DIMM
 physical id: 0
 slot: A0
 size: 512MB
*-bank:1
 description: DIMM [empty]
 physical id: 1
 slot: A1
*-bank:2
 description: DIMM
 physical id: 2
 slot: A2
 size: 512MB


Nothing about speed there.  He may have a newer system than mine that 
does show it like yours but he may not.  One of those 'your mileage may 
vary' situations.

Dale

:-)  :-) 


Thank you very much for this informations.
I have installed lshw and it is very satisfactory.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is setting "<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0" ????

2008-04-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 05:48:22AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote

> emerge unmerge openmotif
> emerge openmotif

  Thanks; it worked.  Actually, I unmerged openmotif, and then went
right to the update of world.  I misread the diagnostic message...

"<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0 (is blocking x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0-r1)"

...as saying that some other program required a version of openmotif
which was <= 2.3.0.  I figure that an older version of program x should
not be considered as a "block" to a newer version of program x.  Isn't
that the whole point of "--update"?

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[gentoo-user] ps2pdf /undefinedfilename but only when run from perl

2008-04-01 Thread felix
I have a project which uses a perl program to run the ps2pdf command.
It fails when run by the perl program but works fine when run by me
from the command line.  No environment variables are changed -- the
perl program is pretty harmless.  This is really frustrating -- I can
literally print the proposed command from the perl program, copy and
paste it into the same shell window, and it runs fine, no errors and
the ps is converted to pdf nicely.

Here is the complaint from ps2pdf:

/usr/bin/ps2pdf13 /tmp/print-32248.ps /tmp/print-32248.pdf
Error: /undefinedfilename in (/tmp/print-32248.ps)
Operand stack:

Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1117/1686(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:80/200(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: 2
ESP Ghostscript 815.01: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1

I have been working on this on and off on several systems, only one of
which is gentoo.  It has generally been the same on all systems,
except for the gtk libs on this machine (rPath) being sufficiently out
of date that firefox 2 beta 4 won't run.  But this has nothing to do
with firefox.

Google shows that the most common cause of this error is spaces in
file names.  But this name has none, and even removing thedash doesn't
change it.

I am going to start simplifying the perl wrapper, but that's a slow
tweaky road.  Does anyone have experience with this error from ps2pdf?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Neil Walker

James wrote:
How/where did you learn which nvidia cards are supported by which version of the 
nvidia-drivers?
  


It's in the README file in the package. ;)


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[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread James
darren kirby  badcomputer.org> writes:


> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

> Each driver has its own page with a "supported products" link on the left 
> side.


Ah.

very cool

thx

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread darren kirby
quoth the James:
> Neil Walker  ep.mine.nu> writes:
> > Utterly wrong. ;) The GeForce2 is supported by the 96.43.xx series of
> > drivers and the FX5200 is still supported by the unified driver. :)
>
> YES the 96.43.05 version compiled and is working. How/where did you
> learn which nvidia cards are supported by which version of the
> nvidia-drivers?
>
>
> James

http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

Each driver has its own page with a "supported products" link on the left 
side.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread James
Neil Walker  ep.mine.nu> writes:


> Utterly wrong. ;) The GeForce2 is supported by the 96.43.xx series of 
> drivers and the FX5200 is still supported by the unified driver. :)


YES the 96.43.05 version compiled and is working. How/where did you 
learn which nvidia cards are supported by which version of the 
nvidia-drivers?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Neil Walker

James wrote:

I'm using 2.6.24-gentoo-r3.

Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 


*** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***
  


Do you have the /usr/src/linux symlink pointing to the kernel source 
tree you are using?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Dale

James wrote:

Volker Armin Hemmann  tu-clausthal.de> writes:


  

NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
  


  

that is not true. Both cards are still supported by nvidia drivers.




  

The FX card ist even supported by the latest drivers!


Yep I got this one(FX 5200) working with the lastest driver.



  
The Gf2 based ones are supported by the 7186 drivers - which are even in 
portage.




Hmmm,
I'm using 2.6.24-gentoo-r3.

Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 


*** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***

make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
 *
 * ERROR: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 3558:  Called linux-mod_src_compile
 * environment, line 2624:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake HOSTCC="$(tc-getBUILD_CC)" CC="$(get-KERNEL_CC)"
LDFLAGS="$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)" ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} ||
die "Unable to make ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS}.";
 *  The die message:
 *   Unable to make  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux
SYSOUT=/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/build clean module.


I've never seen this before
" Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the
kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify
their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or
the equivalent nvidia-installer command line option."

So where/how do I set the SYSSRC variable?

Or is something else wrong?

  


Did you make the symlink to the kernel sources?  /usr/src/linux should 
point to the current kernel version like this:


lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   32 2008-03-03 21:26 linux -> 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r8/


Your version may vary tho.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Dan Farrell:

> net benefit of 2008.0:  none.

The benefit is that the beta gets tested, and we all move that much closer to 
a stable 2008.0 release. 

> net drawback of 2008.0: hassle (beta)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread Neil Walker

Dan Farrell wrote:

Install from 2007.0 with interet:
- most recent stage3
- most recent portage
therefore most recent system
Install from 2008.0-beta with internet:
- same stage3
- same portage
therefore same system

net benefit of 2008.0:  none.
net drawback of 2008.0: hassle (beta)


Wrong. There is a 2008.0-beta stage to go with the Install/LiveCD. 
Alternatively, you can use an updated  2007.0  stage  from  Funtoo  
(Daniel  Robbins) with either. ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Neil Walker

James wrote:

They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:

NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
  


Utterly wrong. ;) The GeForce2 is supported by the 96.43.xx series of 
drivers and the FX5200 is still supported by the unified driver. :)



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[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread James
Volker Armin Hemmann  tu-clausthal.de> writes:


> > NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

> that is not true. Both cards are still supported by nvidia drivers.


> The FX card ist even supported by the latest drivers!
Yep I got this one(FX 5200) working with the lastest driver.



> The Gf2 based ones are supported by the 7186 drivers - which are even in 
> portage.


Hmmm,
I'm using 2.6.24-gentoo-r3.

Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 

*** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***

make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
 *
 * ERROR: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 3558:  Called linux-mod_src_compile
 * environment, line 2624:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake HOSTCC="$(tc-getBUILD_CC)" CC="$(get-KERNEL_CC)"
LDFLAGS="$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)" ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} ||
die "Unable to make ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS}.";
 *  The die message:
 *   Unable to make  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux
SYSOUT=/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/build clean module.


I've never seen this before
" Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the
kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify
their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or
the equivalent nvidia-installer command line option."

So where/how do I set the SYSSRC variable?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:46:49 + (UTC)
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pongracz Istvan  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> > > I've got several boxen that need to be installed so I was hoping
> > > to test drive 2008.0
> 
> > AFAIK the releng team are working on the next release (2008.0) but
> > I do not know the details.
> 
> 
> Thanks to all that responded. I guess I'll be messing around with the
> beta versions.
> 
> Thanks to all for info...
> (I did not look at gentoo.org for a few days.)
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 

Install from 2007.0 with interet:
- most recent stage3
- most recent portage
therefore most recent system
Install from 2008.0-beta with internet:
- same stage3
- same portage
therefore same system

net benefit of 2008.0:  none.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine

2008-04-01 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:45:49 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote:
>
>  > Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I had read that if you don't copy
>  > the files in /dev, udev won't mount properly on the machine you're
>  > cloning to and all hell will break lose.
>
>  There are two files you need in the dev directory of the root
>  filesystem, console and null. Create those, or bind mount the root
>  directory as a;ready suggested.
>
>
>  > Also, iirc, I believe I
>  > tarred a running machine (including /dev, excluding /sys) and the
>  > clone was successful.
>
>  There's no reason why it wouldn't be, but you're wasting a bunch of pace
>  and inodes on your root filesystem by putting a load of stuff in /dev
>  that is then hidden when udev starts.
>
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>   The peculiar habit, when searching for a snack, of constantly
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Oooh I see I see.  Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine

2008-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:45:49 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote:

> Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I had read that if you don't copy
> the files in /dev, udev won't mount properly on the machine you're
> cloning to and all hell will break lose.

There are two files you need in the dev directory of the root
filesystem, console and null. Create those, or bind mount the root
directory as a;ready suggested.

> Also, iirc, I believe I
> tarred a running machine (including /dev, excluding /sys) and the
> clone was successful.

There's no reason why it wouldn't be, but you're wasting a bunch of pace
and inodes on your root filesystem by putting a load of stuff in /dev
that is then hidden when udev starts.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine

2008-04-01 Thread Steven Lembark


> Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I had read that if you don't copy
> the files in /dev, udev won't mount properly on the machine you're
> cloning to and all hell will break lose.  Also, iirc, I believe I
> tarred a running machine (including /dev, excluding /sys) and the
> clone was successful.
>
> Any thoughts?

One other way: mirror the boot/root/install devices
(maybe a single partition). You can make, sync,
and drop the mirror, install grub on the new mbr
and have a clone of the system (basically you'd
be in the same situaiton as if the primary drive
of a mirrored setup croaked).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine

2008-04-01 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:48:54 -0400, Hal Martin wrote:
>
>  > You cannot use tar unless you create an exclude file, as it will copy
>  > the contents of /dev and /sys, which means the entire contents of RAM,
>  > and anything that is currently being generated by your devices will be
>  > copied as well.
>  >
>  > Personally, I would use either tar or rsync to do this, however, in
>  > saying that, I have never actually done this with a live system. This is
>  > the tar command I use for copying inactive systems, and it works quite
>  > well.
>  >
>  > (cd /mnt/source; tar cfpl - .) | (cd /mnt/dest; tar xfp -)
>  >
>  > I assume you could just generate an exclude file, and include that in
>  > the first command
>
>  You don't need an exclude file to avoid /dev and /sys because they are on
>  separate filesystems, so  your use of -l takes care of this.
>
>  Rsync may work, or it may complain that files have changed between
>  building the list and copying them and you'd need to use -x to do the
>  same as -l with tar. Either way, shut down as many services as possible
>  during the copy, particularly anything that uses databases.
>
>
>  --
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>
>  If you got the words it does not mean you got the knowledge.
>

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I had read that if you don't copy
the files in /dev, udev won't mount properly on the machine you're
cloning to and all hell will break lose.  Also, iirc, I believe I
tarred a running machine (including /dev, excluding /sys) and the
clone was successful.

Any thoughts?

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[gentoo-user] Konqueror Go menu - missing items

2008-04-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi,

Any KDE experts in the house?

Short question: What determines how the Go menu in Konqueror is 
populated?

Long version: I used to have nice items in this menu - System, Trash, 
Removeable Media stuff plus some preconfigured ssh/fish connections. I 
find these things to be handy. A while ago they went away and I only 
noticed it after a while, too late to spot what changed just before. 
Now the only this in the menu are History, Most Often Visited and a 
list of the last 10 URLs used.

With genlop I found some stuff going on round about that time:

Emerge kde-4 then ran it with the ~/.kde link still pointing to 
~/.kde3.5
Emerge kde-3.5.9
Upgrade hal to 0.5.10
Remove zeroconf and avahi

I investigated each of those, downgraded hal and put zeroconf back, no 
joy. I thought kde-4 might have screwed the 3.5.9 config dirs, so 
moved .kde3.5/ out of the way and re-started Konqueror, no joy. 
Konqueror-4 shows the same behaviour.
My normal wm is e17, this does not appear to affect it as I get the same 
with a KDE desktop as well.

The Google-force is not strong with this one, got no sane search 
results. Can't find any config settings in $KDE_DIR that look relevant 
either. Can't find anything in KDE changelog to indicate if this 
feature is removed.

So now I'm clueless and have no idea where to look next. Help, anyone?

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Re: [gentoo-user] X crashes on Suspend to Disk ( hibernate )

2008-04-01 Thread Eric Martin

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Thomas Kahle wrote:
| Hi,
|
| for a couple of days now, no idea how it started, my X-Server crashes
| when coming back from suspend to disk. I use kernel 2.6.25-rc6,
| xorg-server 1.4.0.90 and coming back from suspend to ram works
| perfectly. There is absolutely nothing in the logs. Just when the
| applications awake from sleep, they all report broken pipes and find
| X-Server is gone.
| X.org.log shows nothing.
|
| any ideas where to start investigaion?

Are you using anything on top of X?  is your swap file >= RAM?  I don't
know if it will even let you suspend if that's not the case but I'll ask
anyway.  Does /var/log/messages and/or dmesg show anything?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Dale

James wrote:

hello,

I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:

They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:

NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

All ebuilds that could satisfy 
"x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers" have been masked"


These systems are used to run jffnms, postgresql rrdtool
to show network devices and their status. Nothing fancy
just 2D and kde. 


These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
(perhaps an old ATI card?)

I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.

I intend to use them for a long time as to drive a graphical 
display for network monitoring and management.


Any low cost suggestions are most welcome, particularly something
that is open source on the driver, so I can keep them useful
for a long time.


James

  


I have this card as reported by lspci:

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200] (rev a1)


This is the driver that I use:

[I--] [ -] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-169.09-r1 (0)

This is the setting in my make.conf file for this card:

VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"

It all seems to work fine here so may be worth a try to see if it will 
work for you as well.  I use KDE here and the video works very well for 
a older card.


Hope that helps.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] X crashes on Suspend to Disk ( hibernate )

2008-04-01 Thread Thomas Kahle

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Hi,

for a couple of days now, no idea how it started, my X-Server crashes
when coming back from suspend to disk. I use kernel 2.6.25-rc6,
xorg-server 1.4.0.90 and coming back from suspend to ram works
perfectly. There is absolutely nothing in the logs. Just when the
applications awake from sleep, they all report broken pipes and find
X-Server is gone.
X.org.log shows nothing.

any ideas where to start investigaion?

Thanks
Thomas
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing

2008-04-01 Thread Eric Martin

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Joseph wrote:
| On 03/31/08 09:26, Grant wrote:
|> My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing.  It will stay up for about 30 minutes
|> and then stop responding altogether.  I've checked the logs but there
|> is nothing informative there.  I'm all up to date with packages.  How
|> do you troubleshoot something like this?
|>
|> - Grant
|
| Start with "ls_sensors" and monitor CPU and motherboard temp.
+1 to that.  I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing.  I
installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C
(that's with powersave enabled).  When I compiled the temp would go up
to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.*  A /little/ over 40
is too hot...

*For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C -> F is double it,
subtract 10% and add 32.  So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 1. April 2008, James wrote:
> hello,
>
> I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:
>
> They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:
>
> NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
>

that is not true. Both cards are still supported by nvidia drivers.

The Gf2 based ones are supported by the 7186 drivers - which are even in 
portage.

The FX card ist even supported by the latest drivers!



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Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine

2008-04-01 Thread Eric Martin

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Neil Bothwick wrote:

| Rsync may work, or it may complain that files have changed between
| building the list and copying them and you'd need to use -x to do the
| same as -l with tar. Either way, shut down as many services as possible
| during the copy, particularly anything that uses databases.

If you are using lvm you could also make a snapshot of your running
system (after stopping databases etc) and then start the services and
just grab stuff off of the snapshot.  That way you're getting a snapshot
in time as opposed to a very large window of data.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Two instances of MySQL Database Server

2008-04-01 Thread Johann Schmitz

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Hi!

About several month ago I got 2 mysql instances (4.xx and 5.xx) running on the 
same machine.

The (very) quick guide:

* Emerge, setup, etc mysql in the outer system
* setup a chroot with an complete stage3
* chroot into the new one
** emerge mysql
** setup mysql (use a different ip or at least a different port then the outer 
system!)
** Note: You have to uncomment the "need net" line in the mysql init script, 
cause the network is already up
* Mount /usr/portage/, /dev/, /proc/ with bind in the chroot
* Create a fake initscript wich simply invokes the mysql initscript in the 
chroot
** Add this one to the default runlevel

I wrote a step-by-step guide, but: Its in german ;)
Maybe i find some time to translate it into englisch...


br,

Johann



Kaushal Shriyan schrieb:
| Hi
|
| I am referring to
| http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/multiple-unix-servers.html to
| create multiple instances of MySQL Database Server. I wanted it for
| Gentoo Linux
|
| is there a HowTo for configuring multiple instance of MySQL Database
| Server on Gentoo Linux
|
| Thanks and Regards
|
| Kaushal

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread James
> Hi,
>I'm forced to work on some windows machines for the next couple of
> days and want to find a simple app that would allow me command line
> access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
> anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
> emerge work.
>
>I'd be most comfortable with a single, simple, all-in-one app if
> possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
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>
How about sshing in?
PuTTY



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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 07:10:48PM +, James wrote:
> These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
> but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
> So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
> is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
> (perhaps an old ATI card?)
> I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.

Huh? Whatdya mean they are gone?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

Just put >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-87.00 in
/etc/portage/package.mask

and you'll get the legacy drivers, no?

And if you only use them for 2D graphics, might want to try the nv
driver.

HTH, 

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RE: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread Prado, Renato (R.)
Did you try the "nv" and "nouveau" drivers for your current card?

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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
Sent: terça-feira, 1 de abril de 2008 16:11
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

hello,

I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:

They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:

NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

All ebuilds that could satisfy 
"x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers" have been masked"

These systems are used to run jffnms, postgresql rrdtool
to show network devices and their status. Nothing fancy
just 2D and kde. 

These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
(perhaps an old ATI card?)
I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.

I intend to use them for a long time as to drive a graphical 
display for network monitoring and management.

Any low cost suggestions are most welcome, particularly something
that is open source on the driver, so I can keep them useful
for a long time.


James

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[gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

2008-04-01 Thread James
hello,

I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:

They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:

NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

All ebuilds that could satisfy 
"x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers" have been masked"

These systems are used to run jffnms, postgresql rrdtool
to show network devices and their status. Nothing fancy
just 2D and kde. 

These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
(perhaps an old ATI card?)
I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.

I intend to use them for a long time as to drive a graphical 
display for network monitoring and management.

Any low cost suggestions are most welcome, particularly something
that is open source on the driver, so I can keep them useful
for a long time.


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is setting "<=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0" ????

2008-04-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Walter Dnes wrote:
>   I'm updating my newer machine (the hot-backup).  Last time was in
> mid-February.  After doing an emerge --sync and updating portage, I'm
> getting a mysterious message at the end of...
>
> emerge --pretend --deep --update --world > x
>
> ...namely...
>
> [blocks B] <=x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0 (is blocking
> x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0-r1)
>
>   I've tried the usual...
> grep openmotif /etc/portage/*
> revdep-rebuild --ask
>
>   Nothing shows up from either one.  What do I do next?

What's confusing about that? The reason is in the ebuild for 
x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.0-r1 where it's configured to not co-exist with 
any earlier version. Look carefully at the "<=" and version numbers...

To fix: unmerge the existing openmotif, merge the new one

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[gentoo-user] Re: 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread James
Pongracz Istvan  gmail.com> writes:


> > I've got several boxen that need to be installed so I was hoping to 
> > test drive 2008.0

> AFAIK the releng team are working on the next release (2008.0) but I do
> not know the details.


Thanks to all that responded. I guess I'll be messing around with the beta
versions.

Thanks to all for info...
(I did not look at gentoo.org for a few days.)


James




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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] vmware virtual disk expanded but invisible in VM

2008-04-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 01 April 2008, fei huang wrote:
> thank you for the reply, actually I've heard about this solution, and
> tried to use resize2fs to expand my filesystem (ext3), the problem is
> I didn't know how to use it, what does the "new size" parameter mean?
> the additional size or the new complete size?  and the device must be
> a partition rather than the whole disk, otherwise, it complains "Bad
> magic number in super-block", and for a partition, it complains size
> not match or too large. any ideas?

You have to resize the "thing" on which the filesystem resides. In other 
words, this is the first parameter you would supply when mounting it. 
If your filesystem is a whole disk, then you resize the disk. If it's a 
partition, then supply the partition device node as parameter. Similar 
with LVM volumes, raid volumes or whatever other gadget your filesystem 
is on.

resize2fs is quite smart, if you don't supply a size, it expands the 
filesystem to take up the entire device. Let's say the filesystem is 
on /dev/sda3, you would then just do:

resize2fs /dev/sda3

Don't worry about unmounting the device or anything like that, growing a 
filesystem can be done live and on-line

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-04-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all
> monitors
> the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings seems more
> slender than when the colors are reversed.  With small fonts (I like
> high resolution settings for other reasons), this makes the lettering
> hard to read.

If you were using an oldish crt I would suggest that is "blooming" - 
lots of white in the picture increase electron beam current which 
enlarges the picture somewhat. Black backgrounds are in reverse. But 
you are seeing this on lcds as well, so it looks like an "optical 
illusion", like the old favourite of which line is longer:

<->
>-<

Dunno what one can do about that it, it comes down to how the brain 
decodes the signals on the optic nerve...

> > You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so
> > I don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much.
> > However, have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A
> > large number of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and
> > it's apparently hard for the person to detect it in themselves.
>
> I'm glad it seems so, since I teach computer science at the
> university level.  :o)
> But I was hoping to get samples and suggestions of how others have
> dealt with this.  I've been muttering under my breath about this for
> a few years now and I thought it likely that others may have taken
> action.
>
> As for vision: I have such an exam yearly.  I always see the numerals
> in their
> samples, and nobody's ever mentioned color insensitivity.
> Nevertheless, it's possible it's vision-related since it works this
> way for me on all monitors, and
> in my work I see a lot of monitors.

Me too, and to me they all look more or less the same :-) In my case, I 
have 7 years worth of fixing the things and critically examining the 
display quality when calibrating and adjusting them. I've developed an 
automatic gain control in my head that compensates for differences :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2008. 04. 1, kedd keltezéssel 17.36-kor James ezt írta:
> Hello
> 
> Anyone know what's up with this status page?
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2008.0/index.xml
> 
> 
> I've got several boxen that need to be installed so I was hoping to 
> test drive 2008.0
> 

Hi James,

I made a fresh 2007.0 profile based i686 optimized livecd + stage3 in
middle of March.
This is an U N O F F I C I A L release!!!
But I use the catalyst to create it, which is an excellent tool, thanks
to the release engineering team.

You can read/download it from here:
http://www.osbusiness.hu/?lang=en&page_name=gentoolinux

AFAIK the releng team are working on the next release (2008.0) but I do
not know the details.

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
> anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
> emerge work.
> 
>I'd be most comfortable with a single, simple, all-in-one app if possible.

PuTTY - that's basically *THE* terminal app for windows.
It offers telnet, rsh, ssh, rlogin and also sftp and scp.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Tuesday 1 April 2008, 19:31, Mark Knecht wrote:

> Hi,
>I'm forced to work on some windows machines for the next couple of
> days and want to find a simple app that would allow me command line
> access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
> anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
> emerge work.
>
>I'd be most comfortable with a single, simple, all-in-one app if
> possible.

I think putty can suit your needs. It's a single .exe file that doesn't 
even need to be installed.
There are other command line utilities like pscp.exe, psftp.exe etc. if 
you need to copy files or do other ssh-related tasks like key 
generation, etc.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread andrea
On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 10:31 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
>I'm forced to work on some windows machines for the next couple of
> days and want to find a simple app that would allow me command line
> access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
> anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
> emerge work.
> 
>I'd be most comfortable with a single, simple, all-in-one app if possible.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark

Putty should do what you ask for:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread darren kirby
quoth the James:
> Hello
>
> Anyone know what's up with this status page?
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2008.0/index.xml
>
>
> I've got several boxen that need to be installed so I was hoping to
> test drive 2008.0
>
>
>
> James

http://www.gentoo.org/news/20080401-release-beta1.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

James schrieb:

Hello

Anyone know what's up with this status page?

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2008.0/index.xml


I've got several boxen that need to be installed so I was hoping to 
test drive 2008.0




James



Read here www.gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:31:56AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>I'm forced to work on some windows machines for the next couple of
> days and want to find a simple app that would allow me command line
> access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
> anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
> emerge work.
> 
>I'd be most comfortable with a single, simple, all-in-one app if possible.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

Putty. It comes as a standalone applications you can put on a usb disk
and just run. 

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread Mark Knecht
Found PuTTY. Seems to work OK for my needs.

Sorry for the noise,
Mark

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>I'm forced to work on some windows machines for the next couple of
>  days and want to find a simple app that would allow me command line
>  access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
>  anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
>  emerge work.
>
>I'd be most comfortable with a single, simple, all-in-one app if possible.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Mark
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 1. April 2008 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> Hi,
>I'm forced to work on some windows machines for the next couple of
> days and want to find a simple app that would allow me command line
> access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
> anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
> emerge work.

putty for the bare connect, cygwin incl. Xorg if you also want to use X apps 
on the Gentoo machine.

Bye...

Dirk


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[gentoo-user] 2008.0 install media

2008-04-01 Thread James
Hello

Anyone know what's up with this status page?

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2008.0/index.xml


I've got several boxen that need to be installed so I was hoping to 
test drive 2008.0



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[gentoo-user] [OT] Windows terminal to allow ssh into my Gentoo machine?

2008-04-01 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I'm forced to work on some windows machines for the next couple of
days and want to find a simple app that would allow me command line
access to my Gentoo server. Does anyone here know of one? I don't need
anything more than a terminal that supports ssh so that I can do
emerge work.

   I'd be most comfortable with a single, simple, all-in-one app if possible.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] memory upgrade

2008-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 1. April 2008, Dani Crisan wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to buy additional memory for my computer.
> I would like to know how do I find the vendor/frequency etc of my currently
> installed ram module. lshal gives a lot of output. What should I look for?
> Is there another way?

install lm_sensors.

scan for all sensors.

modprobe eeprom

run

decode-dimms.pl -f > WHEREVERYOUWANTIT

there you get ALL information stored in the SPD-chip
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] vmware virtual disk expanded but invisible in VM

2008-04-01 Thread fei huang
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:30 PM, William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You have extended the partition, but the file system inside still ends
> at the old boundary.  You will need to resize it - reiserfs can do it (I
> know because I do this a couple of times a year :), so I presume that
> other, lesser file systems can also do it.
>

thank you for the reply, actually I've heard about this solution, and tried
to use
resize2fs to expand my filesystem (ext3), the problem is I didn't know how
to use
it, what does the "new size" parameter mean? the additional size or the new
complete
size?  and the device must be a partition rather than the whole disk,
otherwise,
it complains "Bad magic number in super-block", and for a partition, it
complains size
not match or too large. any ideas?

tks

fei

>
> :)
> BillK
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 21:23 +0800, fei huang wrote:
> > I've got a mini gentoo in vmware for coding, and the "/" becomes full,
> > I used  vmware-vdiskmanager  and expaned the virutal disk with no
> > problem,
> >
> > however, the VM is totally unware of the new free space, neither
> > "fdisk" nor "parted", I've got no idea about this,  almost all
> > articles googled are
> >
> > about windows and partition magic which make no sense to me, any hints
> > please?   thanks a lot~~
> >
> >
> > regards
> > fei
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] vmware virtual disk expanded but invisible in VM

2008-04-01 Thread William Kenworthy
You have extended the partition, but the file system inside still ends
at the old boundary.  You will need to resize it - reiserfs can do it (I
know because I do this a couple of times a year :), so I presume that
other, lesser file systems can also do it.

:)
BillK


On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 21:23 +0800, fei huang wrote:
> I've got a mini gentoo in vmware for coding, and the "/" becomes full,
> I used  vmware-vdiskmanager  and expaned the virutal disk with no
> problem,
> 
> however, the VM is totally unware of the new free space, neither
> "fdisk" nor "parted", I've got no idea about this,  almost all
> articles googled are 
> 
> about windows and partition magic which make no sense to me, any hints
> please?   thanks a lot~~
> 
> 
> regards
> fei
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-04-01 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Monday 31 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast
> >  works fine for me. What display device do you use?
> >
> >
> > What do you mean about contrast?
> >
> > My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range
> > brightness and contrast.
>
> My question could have been clearer, I meant that the relative contrast
> between fore and background colours using Linux Colours is OK so I can
> see grey on black fine, and the difference between a colour and the
> same one bold is also obvious.
>
> I've used some cheaper crts that were just gross, and in the past found
> that the quality of LCDs were highly variable and mostly unrelated to
> price (this seems to have settled now though).
>

One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all
monitors
the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings seems more
slender than when the colors are reversed.  With small fonts (I like high
resolution settings for other reasons), this makes the lettering hard to
read.

>
> You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so I
> don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much. However,
> have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A large number
> of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and it's apparently
> hard for the person to detect it in themselves.
>

I'm glad it seems so, since I teach computer science at the university
level.  :o)
But I was hoping to get samples and suggestions of how others have dealt
with this.  I've been muttering under my breath about this for a few years
now and I thought it likely that others may have taken action.

As for vision: I have such an exam yearly.  I always see the numerals in
their
samples, and nobody's ever mentioned color insensitivity. Nevertheless, it's
possible it's vision-related since it works this way for me on all monitors,
and
in my work I see a lot of monitors.

++ kevin

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[gentoo-user] [OT] vmware virtual disk expanded but invisible in VM

2008-04-01 Thread fei huang
I've got a mini gentoo in vmware for coding, and the "/" becomes full,  I
used  vmware-vdiskmanager  and expaned the virutal disk with no problem,

however, the VM is totally unware of the new free space, neither "fdisk" nor
"parted", I've got no idea about this,  almost all articles googled are

about windows and partition magic which make no sense to me, any hints
please?   thanks a lot~~


regards
fei


[gentoo-user] Two instances of MySQL Database Server

2008-04-01 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi

I am referring to
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/multiple-unix-servers.html to
create multiple instances of MySQL Database Server. I wanted it for
Gentoo Linux

is there a HowTo for configuring multiple instance of MySQL Database
Server on Gentoo Linux

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -aDNvu world fails

2008-04-01 Thread Gregory Shearman
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Gregory Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>>
>> > I cannot emerge world any more because portage keeps barfing on some
>> > random java ebuild.
>> > Java's not even in the list of things to emerge, but here's what I see:
>> >
>> > Total: 14 packages (14 upgrades), Size of downloads: 99,898 kB
>> >
>> > Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] yes
>>  Verifying ebuild Manifests...
>> >
>> > !!! Digest verification failed:
>> > !!! /usr/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk/sun-jdk-1.5.0.15-r1.ebuild
>> > !!! Reason: Failed on RMD160 verification
>> > !!! Got: 751637964edd458f00c9c72de8f5375eabaf9004
>> > !!! Expected: c7268656bf1adccafde5dd9c1104c5a12905b1dc
>> > treat init.d #
>> >
>> >
>> > I've tried deleting the offending file and re-syncing, but the same
>> error
>> > occurs.
>> >
>> > Help???
>> >
>> > ++ kevin
>> >
>>
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215288
>>
>> []
>>
>> Workaround:
>>remove EBUILD line from Manifest
>>remove /usr/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk/sun-jdk-1.5.0.15-r1.ebuild
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Things have moved quickly.  The workaround did not work for me, but
>> before
> I got to post
> a complaint about it, the PowersThatBe somehow pushed good copies of the
> portage tree
> out to the mirrors, and things seem to be working again.

The workaround worked for me but I had to get rid of the Changelog ( and 
remove it from the Manifest) as well.
It was also corrupted.

emerge worked fine after that. I'll do another sync later in the week.

> Thanks, though.  It was an interesting education.

Yep. Gentoo is like that.

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[gentoo-user] Please file a bug for ?

2008-04-01 Thread tecnic5

Acuse de recibo
   
Su[gentoo-user] Please file a bug for ?
document   
o: 
   
Ha sido   Abraham Marin/SCRT   
recibido   
por:   
   
Con   01/04/2008 12:49:11  
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[gentoo-user] Please file a bug for ?

2008-04-01 Thread Prado, Renato (R.)
Hi there,

During boot I am receiving some messages like "please file a bug for
, it needs a modules.d/modprobe.conf" (just recalling from my head,
I am at work now). Is this a real problem or there is something that I have
to do at my setup?

Thanks in advance.
Renato
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Re: [gentoo-user] gstreamer

2008-04-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Ted Ozolins wrote:
> I have both gstreamer-0.8 and -0.10 on my system. -0.8 is no longer
> in portage. Revdep-rebuild complains about several packages as broken
> and
>
> require gstreamer-0.8. I tried following:
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Troubleshooting_Gstreamer
>
> Can I emerge -C =media-libs/gstreamer-0.8 without borking my system?

Please post the output of revdep-rebuild -p -i

Do these various packages require specifically gstreamer-0.8? If so, 
that is a bug and should be rpeorted at b.g.o. In general, unmerging 
gstreamer-0.8 will cause other things linked to it to now not work, so 
I reckon you will suffer some fallout if you just unmerge it.

A good safety net will be to look into the portage cache in /var/db/pkg, 
you will find a copy of the current gstreamer-0.8 ebuild you are using 
there. Copy it to your local overlay so you can remerge it if 
necessary. Do the same with any plugins that are also not in portage 
anymore

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Re: [gentoo-user] gstreamer

2008-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:44:15 -0600, Ted Ozolins wrote:

> I have both gstreamer-0.8 and -0.10 on my system. -0.8 is no longer in 
> portage. Revdep-rebuild complains about several packages as broken and 
> require gstreamer-0.8. I tried following:
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Troubleshooting_Gstreamer  
> 
> Can I emerge -C =media-libs/gstreamer-0.8 without borking my system?

As it is no longer in portage, copy the ebuild from /var/db/pkg to your
overlay, then quickpkg it before you unmerge anything.

It will only have been removed for portage if nothing else in there
depends on it, so unmerge it (after doing the above) then run
revdep-rebuild followed by emerge -uavD world.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-04-01 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 31 March 2008, 19:55, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> I found that man page singularly unhelpful.  It lists colors and
> defaults, but not a word about syntax,

(from that man page)

SYNTAX
   VARIABLE = [space delimited list of attributes]

> and no mention of other ways of specifying colors (the gentoo 
> tips page suggests that ASCII sequences can be used there, but gives
> only cryptic information about how that might
> be done.

The man page provides the list of variables and attributes that can be 
used. Basically, the variable defines the message type (BAD, INFORM, 
GOOD, etc) and the attributes define how to display the text for that 
variable (basically, fg and bg color, and other attributes like 
underlined, blinking, bold, etc.).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptfs

2008-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:04:10 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

> > Not without the password. That filesystem uses a password, not a
> > keyfile.  
> 
> You didn't tell this before. Now I finally got the whole picture.

You're right. I thought I had but checking back I see I didn't actually
mention that. I use something like this.

target=keys
source=/dev/lvg/keys
pre_mount="mount /dev/mapper/keys /mnt/tmp"
post_mount="umount /mnt/tmp; cryptsetup luksClose keys"

target=home
source='/dev/lvg/home'
key='/mnt/tmp/home.key'


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Re: [gentoo-user] memory upgrade

2008-04-01 Thread Dale

W.Kenworthy wrote:

On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 01:53 -0500, Dale wrote:
  

W.Kenworthy wrote:


bunyip ~ # esearch lshw
[ Results for search key : lshw ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  sys-apps/lshw
  Latest version available: 02.11.01b
  Latest version installed: 02.11.01b
  Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest]
  Homepage:http://ezix.org/project/wiki/HardwareLiSter
  Description: Hardware Lister
  License: GPL-2


  
  
I tried that on mine to but didn't post it because it may not help 
much.  This is the only thing that I see that may help with the 
frequency of the memory:


 *-cpu
  description: CPU
  product: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
  vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
  physical id: 4
  bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  version: 6.10.0
  slot: Socket A
  size: 1833MHz
  capacity: 3GHz
  width: 32 bits
  *clock: 166MHz*
  capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce 
cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 
3dnowext 3dnow ts



Since it says the clock is 166MHz then the memory should be the same.  
Only thing is, my memory has to be 333MHz not 166Mhz.  Basically, 
depending on a few things, that info may not help much unless he has a 
idea what it takes.


My advice, find out the model of the computer if it is factory built or 
the model of the mobo if it is custom built, then go to crucial.com or 
something and look it up that way.  Once you get the info, you can look 
it up at whatever site you choose.


Also, if you have windoze on the rig, some memory sites can look it up 
for you too.  I'm not sure how they do that tho.  I guess they can scan 
something on the mobo.  I dunno.  No windoze here.


Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)



Thats the cpu - try looking at the existing memory which is what he
wants to know.

BillK

*-bank:1
 description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 400 MHz (2.5 ns)
 product: PartNum1
 vendor: Manufacturer1
 physical id: 1
 serial: SerNum1
 slot: DIMM1
 size: 1GB
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 400MHz (2.5ns)


  


That is not what mine shows tho.

*-memory
 description: System Memory
 physical id: 1b
 slot: System board or motherboard
 size: 1GB
 capacity: 1536MB
   *-bank:0
description: DIMM
physical id: 0
slot: A0
size: 512MB
   *-bank:1
description: DIMM [empty]
physical id: 1
slot: A1
   *-bank:2
description: DIMM
physical id: 2
slot: A2
size: 512MB


Nothing about speed there.  He may have a newer system than mine that 
does show it like yours but he may not.  One of those 'your mileage may 
vary' situations.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] memory upgrade

2008-04-01 Thread W.Kenworthy

On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 01:53 -0500, Dale wrote:
> W.Kenworthy wrote:
> > bunyip ~ # esearch lshw
> > [ Results for search key : lshw ]
> > [ Applications found : 1 ]
> >
> > *  sys-apps/lshw
> >   Latest version available: 02.11.01b
> >   Latest version installed: 02.11.01b
> >   Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest]
> >   Homepage:http://ezix.org/project/wiki/HardwareLiSter
> >   Description: Hardware Lister
> >   License: GPL-2
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> I tried that on mine to but didn't post it because it may not help 
> much.  This is the only thing that I see that may help with the 
> frequency of the memory:
> 
>  *-cpu
>   description: CPU
>   product: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
>   vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
>   physical id: 4
>   bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   version: 6.10.0
>   slot: Socket A
>   size: 1833MHz
>   capacity: 3GHz
>   width: 32 bits
>   *clock: 166MHz*
>   capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce 
> cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 
> 3dnowext 3dnow ts
> 
> 
> Since it says the clock is 166MHz then the memory should be the same.  
> Only thing is, my memory has to be 333MHz not 166Mhz.  Basically, 
> depending on a few things, that info may not help much unless he has a 
> idea what it takes.
> 
> My advice, find out the model of the computer if it is factory built or 
> the model of the mobo if it is custom built, then go to crucial.com or 
> something and look it up that way.  Once you get the info, you can look 
> it up at whatever site you choose.
> 
> Also, if you have windoze on the rig, some memory sites can look it up 
> for you too.  I'm not sure how they do that tho.  I guess they can scan 
> something on the mobo.  I dunno.  No windoze here.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)  :-)

Thats the cpu - try looking at the existing memory which is what he
wants to know.

BillK

*-bank:1
 description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 400 MHz (2.5 ns)
 product: PartNum1
 vendor: Manufacturer1
 physical id: 1
 serial: SerNum1
 slot: DIMM1
 size: 1GB
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 400MHz (2.5ns)


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