Re: [gentoo-user] mtune=k6-2 and a *small* upgrade

[Anthony Metcalf]

Shawn Haggett wrote:


There's two points that come to mind.

1) mtune is a request for the compiler to make the code more suited to 
the given processor, but without breaking compatibility. march is 
telling the compiler, do everything you can to make this code fastest 
on this processor.


From the GCC docs for 4.2.3:
"-mtune=cpu-type: Tune to cpu-type everything applicable about the 
generated code, except for the ABI and the set of available 
instructions."
"-march=cpu-type: Generate instructions for the machine type cpu-type. 
The choices for cpu-type are the same as for -mtune. Moreover, 
specifying -march=cpu-type implies -mtune=cpu-type."


So mtune shouldn't be using any instructions that are in K-6 that 
weren't in a 386.


2) I believe x86 hardware never goes backwards. That is, if a new 
feature is added, all future versions of the chip have that feature, 
just with more added. Of course Intel and AMD both have their separate 
additions, but since your staying with AMD, moving to a new processor 
shouldn't break anything (even if you had used march).


Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on hardware architectures or compilers, 
so I might be wrong.


Shawn


Thanks Shawn, that's probably the best answer I'm going to get, I doubt 
many of the AMD chip designers hang around here... :)




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[gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Ralf Stephan]

Hello,

I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Urs Schuetz]

On Wed, 09 Apr 2008, Ralf Stephan wrote:

> I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
> browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
> or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

I'm using the DNS of my router (D-Link DSL-500G). Works without client side 
installations.

Urs
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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:13:40 +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote:

> I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
> browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
> or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

net-dns/dnsmasq


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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Michal 'vorner' Vaner]

Hello

On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:13:40PM +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote:
> I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
> browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
> or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

I use dnsmasq, can be used as a LAN cache too (by simply allowing
requests from a given interface). Took me about 30 minutes to configure.
I asked dhcp to save to resolv.conf.2 and made resolv.conf to request
from localhost.

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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Michal 'vorner' Vaner]

Hello

On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 02:45:18PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:13:40PM +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote:
> > > I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
> > > browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
> > > or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?
> >
> > I use dnsmasq, can be used as a LAN cache too (by simply allowing
> > requests from a given interface). Took me about 30 minutes to
> > configure. I asked dhcp to save to resolv.conf.2 and made resolv.conf
> > to request from localhost.
> 
> What about permanent (with saving to hdd) caching? It seems like pdnsd 
> do this thing only...

Does not seem to matter here much, since I suspend, not turn off. But
anyway, most DNS names should be cached only few hours, half a day or so
(well, there are some that have week long timeouts, but not many).

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[gentoo-user] firefox crash when playing flash

[Qi Baobin]

Hi all,
My firefox crashed sometimes when the page contained flash file.
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emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.13  USE="ipv6 -bindist -debug 
-filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -java 
-mozdevelop -moznopango -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" 
LINGUAS="zh_CN -af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de 
-el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he 
-hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb 
-nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv 
-sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_TW" 0 kB 

uname -a
Linux bobbin 2.6.24-gentoo-r3 #15 SMP Sun Mar 30 20:16:31 Local time zone must 
be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 
CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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And I googled it, found this:
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
but it doesn't work for me!

Any help?

Regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overclocked CPU killed motherboard and CD?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch, 9. April 2008, Grant wrote:
> I received my RMAed motherboard back from MSI today, and although it
> powered right on, the BIOS wouldn't post unless I disconnected the
> CDROM drive and used a different CPU.  I had been overclocking an
> AMD64 X2 but luckily I had a Sempron to test with.
>
> Does this sound like a case of an overclocked CPU burning out and
> taking a couple of devices with it, or is it more likely that the
> motherboard died and took a couple devices with it, or something else?

well, if it works (somehow) with a different cpu, the cpu might be dead. Or 
some parts of the energy 'department' of your mobo got overloaded, burnt out 
and now is only able to drive the mediocre requirements of the sempron.

I would try the cpu in a different board.

An oc'ed cpu needs a lot more power&generates a lot more heat. Both can damage 
the CPU AND the mobo (too much power might fry a regulator, or cook a cap). 
Or it might overload the PSU - and then everything is possible. A damaged 
mobo or psu can take a lot of stuff with it to hell.

I hope you learnt your lesson: Overclocking is evil
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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Andrew Gaydenko]

=== On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: ===
> Hello
>
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:13:40PM +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote:
> > I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
> > browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
> > or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?
>
> I use dnsmasq, can be used as a LAN cache too (by simply allowing
> requests from a given interface). Took me about 30 minutes to
> configure. I asked dhcp to save to resolv.conf.2 and made resolv.conf
> to request from localhost.

What about permanent (with saving to hdd) caching? It seems like pdnsd 
do this thing only...
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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Andrew Gaydenko]

Hi!
=== On Wednesday 09 April 2008, you wrote: ===
...
>
> Does not seem to matter here much, since I suspend, not turn off. But
> anyway, most DNS names should be cached only few hours, half a day or
> so (well, there are some that have week long timeouts, but not many).

Not sure I have noticed drawbacks of using a permanent cache during few 
years - probably I use too stable net resources  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[AG]

Ralf Stephan ha scritto:

Hello,

I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

Regards,
ralf
  

what about dnscache of djbdns tools?
took 2 minutes to setup via dnscache-setup script.

andrea


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overclocked CPU killed motherboard and CD?

[Grant]

>  > I received my RMAed motherboard back from MSI today, and although it
>  > powered right on, the BIOS wouldn't post unless I disconnected the
>  > CDROM drive and used a different CPU.  I had been overclocking an
>  > AMD64 X2 but luckily I had a Sempron to test with.
>  >
>  > Does this sound like a case of an overclocked CPU burning out and
>  > taking a couple of devices with it, or is it more likely that the
>  > motherboard died and took a couple devices with it, or something else?
>
>  well, if it works (somehow) with a different cpu, the cpu might be dead. Or
>  some parts of the energy 'department' of your mobo got overloaded, burnt out
>  and now is only able to drive the mediocre requirements of the sempron.
>
>  I would try the cpu in a different board.
>
>  An oc'ed cpu needs a lot more power&generates a lot more heat. Both can 
> damage
>  the CPU AND the mobo (too much power might fry a regulator, or cook a cap).
>  Or it might overload the PSU - and then everything is possible. A damaged
>  mobo or psu can take a lot of stuff with it to hell.
>
>  I hope you learnt your lesson: Overclocking is evil

I'll never overclock again.  I'm realizing how much more important
reliability is compared to performance and low cost.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crash when playing flash

[Roman Zilka]

Hello,

I don't have any specific idea, but try recompiling Firefox without any
CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS set. Using another Flash implementation (Gnash/Adobe)
might solve the problem too (or introduce new problems:). Also try
cleaning up your Firefox profile (in terms of add-ons, most
importantly).

-rz


> [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.13  USE="ipv6 -bindist 
> -debug -filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -java 
> -mozdevelop -moznopango -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" 
> LINGUAS="zh_CN -af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de 
> -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he 
> -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb 
> -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv 
> -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_TW" 0 kB 
> 
> uname -a
> Linux bobbin 2.6.24-gentoo-r3 #15 SMP Sun Mar 30 20:16:31 Local time zone 
> must be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 
> CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Ralf Stephan]

vorner wrote 
> I use dnsmasq, can be used as a LAN cache too (by simply allowing
> requests from a given interface). Took me about 30 minutes to configure.
> I asked dhcp to save to resolv.conf.2 and made resolv.conf to request
> from localhost.

OK this works fine, thanks. However, udhcpd cannt be coaxed to
write the servers to the new file, am I missing something?

But it's not too bad, I don't reboot often.


Thanks for all the answers (and questions ;)
ralf
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[gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

[Uwe Thiem]

Hi folks,

emerge --update world tells me:
[blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking 
dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)

emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
--- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.

So let's be more specific:
emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
--- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.

Now what?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[kashani]

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

Hi!
=== On Wednesday 09 April 2008, you wrote: ===
...

Does not seem to matter here much, since I suspend, not turn off. But
anyway, most DNS names should be cached only few hours, half a day or
so (well, there are some that have week long timeouts, but not many).


Not sure I have noticed drawbacks of using a permanent cache during few 
years - probably I use too stable net resources  :-)


	As an admin that occasionally has cause to shift traffic between coasts 
for maintenance I hate *hate* anything that ignores my TTLs and consider 
such software broken and bane upon our fair Internet.


kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:01:33 +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote:

> > I use dnsmasq, can be used as a LAN cache too (by simply allowing
> > requests from a given interface). Took me about 30 minutes to
> > configure. I asked dhcp to save to resolv.conf.2 and made resolv.conf
> > to request from localhost.  
> 
> OK this works fine, thanks. However, udhcpd cannt be coaxed to
> write the servers to the new file, am I missing something?

dnsmasq can also operate as a DHCP server, so you don't need to use a
separate one.


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

[Dale]

Uwe Thiem wrote:

Hi folks,

emerge --update world tells me:
[blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking 
dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)


emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
--- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.

So let's be more specific:
emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
--- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.

Now what?

Uwe

  



Equery list gtk-doc and see what it says is installed.  It may not be 
that exact version.  Ran into something similar a while back.


Dale

:-)  :-) 



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[gentoo-user] Re: local caching DNS?

[7v5w7go9ub0o]

Ralf Stephan wrote:

Hello,

I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?



consider maradns 

- It is a recursive dns client/server (and authoritative server if 
desired), described in Portage as "Proxy DNS server with permanent caching>.


- It is extremely fast

- It avoids your ISP's DNS server entirely (your ISP's server may be out 
of date; poisoned; very slow; etc.)


- Download the current version from the web page, as the ebuild is out 
of date (sigh... of course).


HTH
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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!

[Marzan, Richard non Unisys]

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:26 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!
> 
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Iain Buchanan wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 16:56 +0200, Gyuszk wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Gentoo users,
> > > >
> > > > I have an amd64 gentoo. It runs up-to-date components. It is
running
> > with stable ebuilds (except of some ebuilds like monodevelop).
> > > > I've emerged some games too, and thats my problem. Most of these
> games
> > just won't run.
> > > >
> > > > Warsow, Wesnoth, Barrage runs without errors, but Openmortal,
> Chromium,
> > Liquid Wars just don't start. Here is the outputs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's a long shot, but are you in the games group?
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > >
> >  Of course. Without being in games group, I just won't be able to
run
> > emerged games.
> 
> Those of us on the Gentoo-amd64 list welcome you to come join us.
> 
> - Mark
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regardless of what other ml are available for their topic? I must say
that I am guilty of that too. Doesn't anyone post to gentoo
subcategorized ml anymore?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: local caching DNS?

[Uwe Thiem]

On Wednesday 09 April 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
> Ralf Stephan wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
> > browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
> > or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?
>
> consider maradns 
>
> - It is a recursive dns client/server (and authoritative server if
> desired), described in Portage as "Proxy DNS server with permanent
> caching>.

Wiht permanent caching? If it really does this, not honouring TTLs, 
it's crap. That said, I actually don't know whether they mean 
permanent when they say permanent. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

[Uwe Thiem]

On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote:
> Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > emerge --update world tells me:
> > [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking
> > dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)
> >
> > emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
> > --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.
> >
> > So let's be more specific:
> > emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
> > --- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.
> >
> > Now what?
> >
> > Uwe
>
> Equery list gtk-doc and see what it says is installed.  It may not
> be that exact version.  Ran into something similar a while back.

uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc-am
[ Searching for package 'gtk-doc-am' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc
[ Searching for package 'gtk-doc' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2 (0)

gtk-doc-1.8-r2 is the package that gets blocked, it isn't installed 
yet..

More interesting is that the first equery didn't list anything, but 
the gtk-doc-am ebuild exists:
uwix uwe # ls /usr/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc-am
ChangeLog  Manifest  gtk-doc-am-1.10.ebuild  metadata.xml

G. Wanted to let a long compile sesses run overnight - and now 
this! Conspiracies. All around me. Against my innocent self.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crash when playing flash

[Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski]

Roman Zilka pisze:

Hello,

I don't have any specific idea, but try recompiling Firefox without any
CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS set. Using another Flash implementation (Gnash/Adobe)
might solve the problem too (or introduce new problems:). Also try
cleaning up your Firefox profile (in terms of add-ons, most
importantly).

-rz


  
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.13  USE="ipv6 -bindist -debug -filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -java 
-mozdevelop -moznopango -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="zh_CN -af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de 
-el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb 
-nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_TW" 0 kB 


uname -a
Linux bobbin 2.6.24-gentoo-r3 #15 SMP Sun Mar 30 20:16:31 Local time zone must be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 
CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux



Do you have 32 or 64-bits Linux (exec. x86_64). If You use 64 bits (36 
physical and 48 virtual addressing) You will have problem with flash. 
Flash by adobe was only release 32-bit. NSWrapper emulates (converts) 
address spaces but ABI have running issues between 32 and 64bit version. 
Also Adobe is far enough to release 64-bit version, so You must try to 
live with it. If you have enough flash problem install 32-bit Gentoo Linux.


Greet's
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[gentoo-user] Re: local caching DNS?

[7v5w7go9ub0o]

Uwe Thiem wrote:

On Wednesday 09 April 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:

Ralf Stephan wrote:

Hello,

I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

consider maradns 

- It is a recursive dns client/server (and authoritative server if
desired), described in Portage as "Proxy DNS server with permanent
caching>.


Wiht permanent caching? 


I don't know. I never found a reference to it in the documentation. I 
quoted portage because I thought it might make sense to others.


I'd *guess* that it means that it'll keep long-TTL records beyond a 
restart - i.e. it does not flush the cache at start up.



If it really does this, not honouring TTLs,
it's crap. That said, I actually don't know whether they mean 
permanent when they say permanent. ;-)



"When MaraDNS' recursive resolver receives a "host not there" reply, 
instead of using the SOA minimum of the "host not there" reply as the 
TTL (Look at RFC1034 §4.3.4), MaraDNS uses the TTL of the SOA reply.


MaraDNS keeps referral NS records in the cache for one day instead of 
the TTL specified by the remote server."


"MaraDNS recursive resolver treats any TTL shorter than min_ttl seconds 
(min_ttl_cname seconds when the record is a CNAME record) as if the TTL 
in question was min_ttl (or min_ttl_cname) seconds long when determining 
when to expire a record from MaraDNS' cache.


TTLs which are shorter than 20 seconds long are given a TTL of 20 
seconds; TTLs which are more than 63072000 (2 years) long are given a 
TTL of 2 years."



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Marzan, Richard non Unisys
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
>  > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>  > Those of us on the Gentoo-amd64 list welcome you to come join us.
>  >
>  > - Mark
>  > --
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> > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
>  Doesn't it seems strange that most users posts on the gentoo-user ml,
>  regardless of what other ml are available for their topic? I must say
>  that I am guilty of that too. Doesn't anyone post to gentoo
>  subcategorized ml anymore?
>

Well, I certainly post on the gentoo-amd64 list when my questions are
specific to my 64-bit machines. things like how to make Flash, java,
plugins, etc., work better on that platform are, to me, very
appropriate to that list.

I post here for more general conversations.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!

[Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski]

Mark Knecht pisze:

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Marzan, Richard non Unisys
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

-Original Message-
  

 > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



  

 > Those of us on the Gentoo-amd64 list welcome you to come join us.
 >
 > - Mark
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gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
  

 Doesn't it seems strange that most users posts on the gentoo-user ml,
 regardless of what other ml are available for their topic? I must say
 that I am guilty of that too. Doesn't anyone post to gentoo
 subcategorized ml anymore?




Well, I certainly post on the gentoo-amd64 list when my questions are
specific to my 64-bit machines. things like how to make Flash, java,
plugins, etc., work better on that platform are, to me, very
appropriate to that list.

I post here for more general conversations.

- Mark
  
I think that this types of info should be mailed to gentoo-user. But 
when we post about incompatibility (something don't work as this should) 
then better to post to gentoo-amd64 list.

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Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

[Mark Kirkwood]

I just use bind - setup to lookup from my ISP's nameservers and cache only.

The main reason for this was my ISP's ones are very slow (sometime 0.5 s 
to resolve!) - turning on the cache made an enormous difference to the 
perceived performance.


Cheers

Mark

Ralf Stephan wrote:

Hello,

I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

Regards,
ralf
  


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[gentoo-user] python - *** glibc detected ***

[Nicolai Beuermann]

Hello list,
a few days ago my creative urge forced me to learn python. As a first step I 
wanted to control ecasound by script.
What a pity that it doesn't work.

kernel:
It's a 64bit applepro with  Linux 2.6.22-sabayon #16 SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 27 
19:33:05 CET 2007 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5130 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel 
GNU/Linux

python:
Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Feb  5 2008, 15:14:12)
[GCC 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.0.1)] on linux2

ls -l `which python`
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 10. Apr 00:04 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/bin/python2.5

I get:
Chain operator status:  ### Chain operator status (chainsetup 'pass_jack') ###
Chain "chain01":
  1. Lowpass filter: [1] cutoff-freq 100.0
*** glibc detected *** python: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 
0x2b8ca3a700d8 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0x1ac)[0x2b8ca48be7dc]
/usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/pyecasound.so[0x2b8ca50ec6ee]
/usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0[0x2b8ca3c5fc80]
/usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(PyDict_SetItem+0x118)[0x2b8ca3c603ff]
/usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(_PyModule_Clear+0x1e8)[0x2b8ca3c65a58]
/usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(PyImport_Cleanup+0x2ea)[0x2b8ca3cefbc3]
/usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(Py_Finalize+0x95)[0x2b8ca3cfee1c]
/usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(Py_Main+0xdb3)[0x2b8ca3d0f1f4]
python(main+0x1b)[0x40081b]
/lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf4)[0x2b8ca48651f4]
python[0x400789]
=== Memory map: 
0040-00401000 r-xp  08:12 
6417361/usr/bin/python2.5
0060-00601000 r--p  08:12 
6417361/usr/bin/python2.5
00601000-00602000 rw-p 1000 08:12 
6417361/usr/bin/python2.5
00602000-006d9000 rw-p 00602000 00:00 0  
[heap]


I did "revdev-rebuild". In that sense my system seems to be consistence.

Should glibc be downgraded? Wrong USE variables?
eix glibc shows:
2.7-r2(2.2)(13:09:03 27.03.2008)(gd glibc-omitfp 
nls -debug -glibc-compat20 -hardened -multilib -profile -selinux -vanilla)

On my 32bit centrino laptop with latest gentoo python+ecasound work fine. But 
that's beside the point.

thanks for reading
nico
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Re: [gentoo-user] python - *** glibc detected ***

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag, 10. April 2008, Nicolai Beuermann wrote:
> Hello list,
> a few days ago my creative urge forced me to learn python. As a first step
> I wanted to control ecasound by script.
> What a pity that it doesn't work.
>
> kernel:
> It's a 64bit applepro with  Linux 2.6.22-sabayon #16 SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 27
> 19:33:05 CET 2007 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5130 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel
> GNU/Linux
>
> python:
> Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Feb  5 2008, 15:14:12)
> [GCC 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.0.1)] on linux2
>
> ls -l `which python`
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 10. Apr 00:04 /usr/bin/python ->
> /usr/bin/python2.5
>
> I get:
> Chain operator status:  ### Chain operator status (chainsetup 'pass_jack')
> ### Chain "chain01":
>   1. Lowpass filter: [1] cutoff-freq 100.0
> *** glibc detected *** python: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer:
> 0x2b8ca3a700d8 ***
> === Backtrace: =
> /lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0x1ac)[0x2b8ca48be7dc]
> /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/pyecasound.so[0x2b8ca50ec6ee]
> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0[0x2b8ca3c5fc80]
> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(PyDict_SetItem+0x118)[0x2b8ca3c603ff]
> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(_PyModule_Clear+0x1e8)[0x2b8ca3c65a58]
> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(PyImport_Cleanup+0x2ea)[0x2b8ca3cefbc3]
> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(Py_Finalize+0x95)[0x2b8ca3cfee1c]
> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0(Py_Main+0xdb3)[0x2b8ca3d0f1f4]
> python(main+0x1b)[0x40081b]
> /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf4)[0x2b8ca48651f4]
> python[0x400789]
> === Memory map: 
> 0040-00401000 r-xp  08:12
> 6417361/usr/bin/python2.5
> 0060-00601000 r--p  08:12
> 6417361/usr/bin/python2.5
> 00601000-00602000 rw-p 1000 08:12
> 6417361/usr/bin/python2.5
> 00602000-006d9000 rw-p 00602000 00:00 0
> [heap]
> 
>
> I did "revdev-rebuild". In that sense my system seems to be consistence.
>
> Should glibc be downgraded? Wrong USE variables?

you can't downgrade glibc.

re-emerge python  and use python-updater.

And since you are using sabayon, file a bug in their bugzilla.
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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

[Iain Buchanan]

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:51 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: 
> On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote:
> > Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > emerge --update world tells me:
> > > [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking
> > > dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)
> > >
> > > emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
> > > --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.
> > >
> > > So let's be more specific:
> > > emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
> > > --- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.
> > >
> > > Now what?

heh heh!

> > Equery list gtk-doc and see what it says is installed.  It may not
> > be that exact version.  Ran into something similar a while back.
> 
> uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc-am
> [ Searching for package 'gtk-doc-am' in all categories among: ]
>  * installed packages
> uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc
> [ Searching for package 'gtk-doc' in all categories among: ]
>  * installed packages
> [I--] [  ] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2 (0)
> 
> gtk-doc-1.8-r2 is the package that gets blocked, it isn't installed 
> yet..

yes it is!  equery just told you so! 

> More interesting is that the first equery didn't list anything, but 
> the gtk-doc-am ebuild exists:
> uwix uwe # ls /usr/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc-am
> ChangeLog  Manifest  gtk-doc-am-1.10.ebuild  metadata.xml

yes, the ebuild exists, but it's not installed!  Therefore equery didn't
show it to you.

> G. Wanted to let a long compile sesses run overnight - and now 
> this! Conspiracies. All around me. Against my innocent self.

:)

I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's blocking
the one you have installed.  You need to uninstall gtk-doc, and then you
can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am.
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[gentoo-user] nautilus keeps reloading

[Iain Buchanan]

Hi list :)

I've been running gnome 2.22 since it made unstable, and today I just
upgraded to the 2.22.1 minor release.

However, since that (or some other) upgrade, every time I right left or
middle click on a file on my desktop or in a folder, nautilus dies and
starts again (closing all open windows, momentarily blanking the
desktop, etc).

I can select icons and pop up the menu with the keyboard, and it works
fine.  I can also right click on a non-icon space, no worries.

Nautilus isn't crashing, because gdb shows nothing but "Program exited
with code 0177" (no segfaults etc), so it's reloading for some reason.

Next I tried an strace.  The last few lines I see before the crash is:

stat64("/usr/bin/nautilus", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755,
st_size=1175916, ...}) = 0
writev(2, [{"/usr/bin/nautilus", 17}, {": ", 2}, {"symbol lookup error",
19}, {": ", 2}, {"/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-2.0"..., 62}, {": ", 2},
{"undefined symbol: nautilus_file_"..., 46}, {"", 0}, {"", 0}, {"\n",
1}], 10/usr/bin/nautilus: symbol lookup
error: /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-burn-extension.so:
undefined symbol: nautilus_file_info_get_mount
) = 151
exit_group(127) = ?

hm, libnautilus-burn-extension.so is owned by nautilus-cd-burner.
Recompiling that doesn't help.  Nor does recompiling nautilus.

Of course revdep-rebuild doesn't help either!

Where to look next?  TIA,
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