[gentoo-user] gimp-2.6.4 fails with libxcb 1.4

[Denis]

Hello everyone,

I just upgraded to libxcb 1.4, and the only side effect so far is that
I cannot get gimp to compile.

The build log clearly points to the broken libxcb dependency, although
I followed the Upgrade Guide:

--
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-O2 -march=prescott$
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=prescott -pipe -Wall
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wm$
creating file-pcx
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-I/usr/include/libpn$
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -I/usr/include/poppler/glib
-I/usr/include/poppler -I/us$
/usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0: undefined reference to `_xcb_unlock_io'
/usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0: undefined reference to `_xcb_lock_io'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [file-pdf] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=prescott -pipe -Wall
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wm$
creating file-pix
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -I/usr/include/libpng12 -O2 -march=prescott
-pipe -Wall -Wdeclara$
creating file-png
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/gimp-2.6.4/work/gimp-2.6.4/plug-$
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/gimp-2.6.4/work/gimp-2.6.4/plug-$
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/gimp-2.6.4/work/gimp-2.6.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2
 * ERROR: media-gfx/gimp-2.6.4 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 3352:  Called gnome2_src_compile
 * environment, line 2196:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake || die "compile failure"
 *  The die message:
 *   compile failure
--

Is there some way to get around this?

If this may help, my emerge --info:

--

Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.3.2,
glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2, 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 i686)
=
System uname: 
linux-2.6.27-gentoo-r8-i686-intel-r-_core-tm-2_cpu_66...@_2.40ghz-with-gentoo-1.12.11.1
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:45:01 +
app-shells/bash: 4.0_p28
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.8-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.6.2-r1
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox:1.6-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.5, 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.6a
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=prescott -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /var/lib/hsqldb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d
/etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild
/etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d
/etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c
/etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=prescott -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox
sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org/
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/
http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo "
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X aac acl aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf berkdb branding bzip2
cairo cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cli cpudetection cracklib crypt cups
djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif glut
gpm graphics gs gtk iconv ieee1394 imagemagick imlib ipv6 java
javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k kpathsea lame latex ldap libnotify libwww
lm_sensors mad mmx mmxext mng modules motif mp3 mpeg mplayer msn
mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openal opengl openmp oss pam pcre
pdf perl plotutils png ppds preview-latex pstricks python qt3support
qt4 quicktime readline reflection rtc samba science sdl sensord
session smp sndfile spell spl sse sse2 ssl svga swat sysfs tcl tcpd
tetex tiff tk truetype tta unicode usb wavpack winbind wmp x86 xcb
xine xml xorg yahoo zlib"

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

[Dale]

alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:
>
> Thanks all for the help. Finally the problem was solved by re-compiling all 
> X11
> drivers used, and most notably xf86-input-keyboard & xf86-input-mouse.
> I still think that any package update that breaks a working config without any
> specific doc IS A BUG. That just happened for the scond time.
>
>
>   

Well, at least you can get evdev to working.  I haven't had any luck yet
although I need to try again since xorg-server is about to update here too.

I also know the SysReq key trick now.  It can take you back to a console.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

[alain . didierjean]

Selon Florian Philipp :

> alain.didierj...@free.fr schrieb:
> > Definitly, an update shouldn't break an existing working configuration!
> This
> > happens these days only too often with the Xorg + hal mess.
> > I happen to use linux as a working tool and 3 days without being able to
> launch
> > a working X is a source of problems! This is the second time. As for hal
> config,
> > the author should remember that ol'saying:KISS for Keep It Simple, Stupid.
> > Now, with or without /etc/X11/xorg.conf, my machine (amd64), updated to
> > libxcb-1.4, xorg-1.6 and hal last version launches X all right, only mouse
> and
> > keyboard are not working !
> > A line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log says:
> > (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or
> 'vmmouse'
> > will be disabled.
> > Where is that b. AllowEmptyOption  ? certainly not in xorg.conf.
> > How do I get back some input on X screen ?
> > I also get (with xorg.conf)
> > (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> > (EE) Failed to load module "evdev" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> > Please help before I turn crazy (it might be too late)
> >
>
> With 'launches X' do you mean your desktop environment (login -> startx)
> or xdm/kdm/gdm?
both
>

Thanks all for the help. Finally the problem was solved by re-compiling all X11
drivers used, and most notably xf86-input-keyboard & xf86-input-mouse.
I still think that any package update that breaks a working config without any
specific doc IS A BUG. That just happened for the scond time.

Re: [gentoo-user] Large update blocked

[Frank Steinmetzger]

Am Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:
> I may put this off until Xmas break (I cannot afford to wedge this system
> right now), but I'm worried by the results of an emerge --pretend:
>
> It looks like 20 packages or so want eselect-1.2.3, but it's blocked by
> eselect-news which is required by world.

Which means it is required by you.
>
> Is there a sane way through this update?

Just remove eselect-news. From looking at eselect's ebuild I deduce that its 
functionality is taken over by eselect itself.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Large update blocked

[David Relson]

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:51:21 -0700
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> I may put this off until Xmas break (I cannot afford to wedge this
> system right now), but I'm worried by the results of an emerge
> --pretend:
> 
> It looks like 20 packages or so want eselect-1.2.3, but it's blocked
> by eselect-news which is required by world.
> 
> Is there a sane way through this update?  Details below.
> 
> ++ kevin
> 
> 
> [blocks B ] app-admin/eselect-news ("app-admin/eselect-news" is
> blocking app-admin/eselect-1.2.3)
> 
> Total: 61 packages (56 upgrades, 5 new), Size of downloads: 41,445 kB
> Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)
> 
>  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>  * installed at the same time on the same system.
> 
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'app-admin/eselect-1.2.3', 'merge') pulled in by
> >=app-admin/eselect-1.0.2 required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-admin/eselect-python-20090824', 'nomerge')
> >=app-admin/eselect-1.0.10 required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-admin/eselect-ecj-0.3', 'nomerge')
> app-admin/eselect required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-office/openoffice-3.1.1', 'nomerge')
> (and 18 more)
> 
>   ('installed', '/', 'app-admin/eselect-news-20080320', 'nomerge')
> pulled in by
> app-admin/eselect-news required by world
> 
> 
> For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
> following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is
> irrelevant):
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked

Sounds like eselect-news is in your world file, which can be verified by
gunning 'grep eselect-news /var/lib/portage/world'.  Why not unmerge
eselect-news, do the upgrade, then emerge it afterwards?

HTH,

David

P.S.  If the unmerge doesn't break the log jam, you can emerge
eselect-news and get back to "normal".

[gentoo-user] New laptop is slow.

[Grant]

I just finished installing Gentoo on a Dell Vostro 1320 laptop.  It
has a 2.2Ghz Core Duo CPU, 3GB RAM, and a 7200RPM hard drive.
Navigating within firefox is pretty slow.  It's the response time of
the application, not the network.  It's much slower than my previous
laptop which has much weaker specs.

I noticed the HD light comes on when the system is pausing in firefox
sometimes.  I don't have any swap at all, I'm using the CFQ, and /tmp
is mounted on tmpfs.  Can anyone suggest where to look?

- Grant

[gentoo-user] Large update blocked

[Kevin O'Gorman]

I may put this off until Xmas break (I cannot afford to wedge this system
right now), but I'm worried by the results of an emerge --pretend:

It looks like 20 packages or so want eselect-1.2.3, but it's blocked by
eselect-news which is required by world.

Is there a sane way through this update?  Details below.

++ kevin


[blocks B ] app-admin/eselect-news ("app-admin/eselect-news" is blocking
app-admin/eselect-1.2.3)

Total: 61 packages (56 upgrades, 5 new), Size of downloads: 41,445 kB
Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-admin/eselect-1.2.3', 'merge') pulled in by
>=app-admin/eselect-1.0.2 required by ('installed', '/',
'app-admin/eselect-python-20090824', 'nomerge')
>=app-admin/eselect-1.0.10 required by ('installed', '/',
'app-admin/eselect-ecj-0.3', 'nomerge')
app-admin/eselect required by ('installed', '/',
'app-office/openoffice-3.1.1', 'nomerge')
(and 18 more)

  ('installed', '/', 'app-admin/eselect-news-20080320', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
app-admin/eselect-news required by world


For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] Any good documentation out there? Anyone use NGINX?

[David Juhl]

How is it trying to get around anything if the rules permit it?  There
has to be away I can obey the rules, and still achieve what I want. ,
easier access to my work I bring home with me.

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 14:28 -0700, Keith Dart wrote:
> === On Tue, 10/06, David Juhl wrote: ===
> > Finding another job is impossible.  I am under an enlistment contract.
> ===
> 
> Oh... sorry. Well then, my advice is don't try 
> to get around any firewall or other security practices...
> 
> 
> -- Keith Dart
> 
> 
> 
> -- ~
>Keith Dart 
>public key: ID: 19017044
>
>=
> 
-- 
David L. Juhl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg upgrade problem

[David Relson]

On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:21:11 -0700
walt wrote:

> On 10/05/2009 05:30 PM, David Relson wrote:
> 
> > ...As it
> > happens, I logged out yesterday and logged back in and now have the
> > higher resolution I wanted.  'Tis all very peculiar.
> 
> (Doing my part to lower the signal-to-noise ratio ;o)
> 
> I've noticed in the past month or three that when I reboot the machine
> or even just restart X for some reason, very rarely the the X server
> starts with the wrong screen resolution(!).
> 
> All I need to do to fix the resolution problem is to log out of the X
> session and restart X.
> 
> At this point I am firmly convinced that sunspots and/or cosmic rays
> are flipping random bits in my machine's memory.  Although there are
> no other random flakey events that would suggest hardware failure.
> 
> I'm mystified -- but at least the workaround is trivial, and the box
> is rock solid until the next time it happens.

A nice workaround.  The tip is appreciated :->

Re: [gentoo-user] Any good documentation out there? Anyone use NGINX?

[Keith Dart]

=== On Tue, 10/06, David Juhl wrote: ===
> Finding another job is impossible.  I am under an enlistment contract.
===

Oh... sorry. Well then, my advice is don't try 
to get around any firewall or other security practices...


-- Keith Dart



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[gentoo-user] HAL crashes after connecting removable media

[Sebastian Beßler]

Hello,

I don't now since when exactly as I don't use removable media so often,
but now my HAL-daemon crashes after connecting a removable media.

I looked into nearly all files in /var/log but no info about hald can be
found.

The crashes only happen when insert a usb-drive or a media in my dvd-drive.

I use kde 3.5.10

Greetings

Sebastian Beßler

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[William Hubbs]

On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:30:29PM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 19:50:36 schrieb William Hubbs:
> > Actually, what you want to add is gentoo=nox.  nox alone is for use on
> > the live cd only, but gentoo=nox works everywhere else.
> 
> Then explain why nox alone always works fine when I use it WITHOUT livecd.

 If you are using an older version of xinit, it might work, but it also
 causes you to have to reboot before you can restart X.  With the latest
 stable, you will have to use gentoo=nox and it will also allow you to
 restart X after a reboot just by doing /etc/init.d/xdm restart.

---
William Hubbs
gentoo accessibility team lead
willi...@gentoo.org


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Re: [gentoo-user] opening port 8000

[Andre Parker]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Maxim Wexler  wrote:
>>     b.) If directly connected iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8000 -j
>> ACCEPT
>
> sorry for the delay answering,  only just got back to mobile mode.
>
>  soupeee # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -dport 8000 -j ACCEPT
> Bad argument `8000'
>
> mw
>
>

--dport (two hyphens)

-- 
Best regards,
Parker Andre.

[gentoo-user] Re: opening port 8000

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 10/06/2009 11:11 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:

 b.) If directly connected iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8000 -j
ACCEPT


sorry for the delay answering,  only just got back to mobile mode.

  soupeee # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -dport 8000 -j ACCEPT
Bad argument `8000'


That's not what the intructions you quoted say.

Re: [gentoo-user] opening port 8000

[Maxim Wexler]

> b.) If directly connected iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8000 -j
> ACCEPT

sorry for the delay answering,  only just got back to mobile mode.

 soupeee # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -dport 8000 -j ACCEPT
Bad argument `8000'

mw

[gentoo-user] glxgears with no ... gears?!

[Mick]

I've updated xorg following all relevant instructions by gentoo devs on an old 
laptop and when I run glxgears I get no graphic and pedestrian speeds:

$ glxgears
629 frames in 5.0 seconds = 125.622 FPS
629 frames in 5.0 seconds = 125.718 FPS
627 frames in 5.0 seconds = 125.377 FPS

If I maximise the window, still no gears just a black terminal window and I 
get:

93 frames in 5.0 seconds = 18.474 FPS

It's never been that bad before.  I've noticed that emerge -uDv world pulled 
in xorg-drivers and it also emerged xf86-video-ati.  I attach the list of the 
packages that were emerged today and my Xorg.0.log, just in case you see 
something amiss in there.

Please ask if you need more info.

PS.  I have no xorg.conf, but can post the *.fdi files if needed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 19:50:36 schrieb William Hubbs:
> Actually, what you want to add is gentoo=nox.  nox alone is for use on
> the live cd only, but gentoo=nox works everywhere else.

Then explain why nox alone always works fine when I use it WITHOUT livecd.

Bye...

Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2009-10-06, Marco  wrote:
> > after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my
> > keyboard (in X) does not work anymore.
> 
> I'm betting you need to re-emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
> (and probably x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and any other
> xf96-input-* packages you use).
> 
> That seems to happen to me regularly.  One might think that the
> xorg-server ebuild should know that xf86-input-* needs to be
> rebuilt as well, but it doesn't seem to work that way.
> 

there is a FAT warning. Maybe people should start reading the warnings and 
infos instead of panicing

[gentoo-user] mplayer configure weirdness

[Dirk Uys]

Hi

I had a lot of strange problems with mplayer the last two days.

I was busy doing a system upgrade which failed halfway (due to the libxcb
upgrade thing). This left my mplayer broken since ffmpeg was upgraded i
guess. No problem, just emerge mplayer again. Tried it, and the emerge got
stuck at "Checking for freetype >= 2.0.9 ...". It just hanged there.

So I tried to emerge a previous version of mplayer with the same results.

Next I read the abuild and disabled all the use flags pulling in freetype.
Then it got stuck on libmp3-lame, so I also disabled the mp3 use flag and
tried again. This time configure succeeded and it is now busy compiling.

revdep-rebuild tells me that everything except mplayer is fine?

Has anyone else experienced this?

Regards
Dirk

[gentoo-user] Re: Guesstimates of KDE4 going stable?

[James]

Jonathan Callen  gentoo.org> writes:


> So, to answer your question, "Real Soon Now™."  


YIPPEE !




> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/287697


thanks.


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess

[Florian Philipp]

Kevin O'Gorman schrieb:
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Florian Philipp
> mailto:li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net>> wrote:
> 
> alain.didierj...@free.fr  schrieb:
> > Definitly, an update shouldn't break an existing working
> configuration! This
> > happens these days only too often with the Xorg + hal mess.
> > I happen to use linux as a working tool and 3 days without being
> able to launch
> > a working X is a source of problems! This is the second time. As
> for hal config,
> > the author should remember that ol'saying:KISS for Keep It Simple,
> Stupid.
> > Now, with or without /etc/X11/xorg.conf, my machine (amd64),
> updated to
> > libxcb-1.4, xorg-1.6 and hal last version launches X all right,
> only mouse and
> > keyboard are not working !
> > A line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log says:
> > (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse'
> or 'vmmouse'
> > will be disabled.
> > Where is that b. AllowEmptyOption  ? certainly not in xorg.conf.
> > How do I get back some input on X screen ?
> > I also get (with xorg.conf)
> > (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> > (EE) Failed to load module "evdev" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> > Please help before I turn crazy (it might be too late)
> >
> 
> With 'launches X' do you mean your desktop environment (login -> startx)
> or xdm/kdm/gdm?
> 
> In any case, try to add
> 
> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"
> 
> to your xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout"
> 
> However, for me this has tripled any key press and also messed up some
> other things.
> 
> You (and anyone else, actually) might also want to add
> 
> Option  "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
> 
> to the Section "InputDevice" of your keyboard. This will reenable
> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace for killing X.
> 
> 
> This is interesting, and I'd like to try it, but my xorg.conf does not
> have an "InputDevice" section, or anything specific about keyboards or mice.
> 
> How should I add this safely?
> 

Most likely your setup does not rely on an xorg.conf. In that case you
should avoid adding anything to it. Look at this guide for various ways
to re-enable that feature:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.6-upgrade-guide.xml

BTW: There is a news item (eselect news) about this but depending on
your system config and when you have synced your portage tree the last
time, that item might not have been announced to you.



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Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[William Hubbs]

On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 07:10:46PM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 18:36:25 schrieb Marco:
> > Two questions:
> > - Since Xorg is in the default runlevel, how can I boot into gentoo
> > without starting X (boot prompt option)?
> 
> Add "nox" to your boot options.
 
Actually, what you want to add is gentoo=nox.  nox alone is for use on
the live cd only, but gentoo=nox works everywhere else.

-- 
William Hubbs
gentoo accessibility team lead
willi...@gentoo.org


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Florian Philipp <
li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net> wrote:

> alain.didierj...@free.fr schrieb:
> > Definitly, an update shouldn't break an existing working configuration!
> This
> > happens these days only too often with the Xorg + hal mess.
> > I happen to use linux as a working tool and 3 days without being able to
> launch
> > a working X is a source of problems! This is the second time. As for hal
> config,
> > the author should remember that ol'saying:KISS for Keep It Simple,
> Stupid.
> > Now, with or without /etc/X11/xorg.conf, my machine (amd64), updated to
> > libxcb-1.4, xorg-1.6 and hal last version launches X all right, only
> mouse and
> > keyboard are not working !
> > A line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log says:
> > (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or
> 'vmmouse'
> > will be disabled.
> > Where is that b. AllowEmptyOption  ? certainly not in xorg.conf.
> > How do I get back some input on X screen ?
> > I also get (with xorg.conf)
> > (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> > (EE) Failed to load module "evdev" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> > Please help before I turn crazy (it might be too late)
> >
>
> With 'launches X' do you mean your desktop environment (login -> startx)
> or xdm/kdm/gdm?
>
> In any case, try to add
>
> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"
>
> to your xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout"
>
> However, for me this has tripled any key press and also messed up some
> other things.
>
> You (and anyone else, actually) might also want to add
>
> Option  "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
>
> to the Section "InputDevice" of your keyboard. This will reenable
> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace for killing X.
>
>
This is interesting, and I'd like to try it, but my xorg.conf does not have
an "InputDevice" section, or anything specific about keyboards or mice.

How should I add this safely?

++ kevin


> For me, X started to work again after removing ~/.Xauthority.
>
>


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[gentoo-user] Re: URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Marco]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Marco  wrote:
> Hi all,
[...]

Problem solved! Thanks for all your tips and suggestions! Now back to
preparation of my job-interview tomorrow...

--
Best regards,
 Marco

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Marco]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:51 PM,   wrote:
> Marco  [09-10-06 18:44]:
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Dale  wrote:
>> > Marco wrote:
>> [...]
>> > What happens if you emerge xorg-server with hal disabled?
>>
>> Cannot try this since I am not able to do anything as long as I am not
>> able to boot in to text-mode only... X is in default runlevel.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>  Marco
>>
>
> Hi Marco,
>
> bad and ugly:
>
> Boot into grub menu (I only know this for grub, other bootmangers
> should have similiar).
> Inhibtit automatic boot by moving the select bar up and down with the
> cursor keys.
> If you have locked grub with a password (you have?) enter "p" and
> enter the password.
> Move the select bar onto the commandline, which give the kernel
> parameter.
> Press "e" for edit.
> Goto the end of the line
> Enter ' 2' after the last parameter.
> Press "b" for "boot".
> You will end up on a commandline and you will be able to login.
>
> By the way:
> By giving " init=/bin/sh" instead of " 2" you can bypass the root
> and any other login.
> Thats why it is important to lock grub with a passsword.
>
> Thats only my lightspeed, your time machine brand may vary ;)

Thanks for that tip, but no success with it. I just found out about
the interactive boot mode ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Marco]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Kenneth Prugh  wrote:
>> Two questions:
>> - Since Xorg is in the default runlevel, how can I boot into gentoo
>> without starting X (boot prompt option)?
>
> Ever notice the "press I for interactive mode" during init? That's how
> you can stop it from launching X.
>
>> - How can I recreate functional modules for mouse and kbd?
>
> emerge -av $(eix -IC x11-drivers --only-names) or emerge -av $(qlist -I
> x11-drivers) will rebuild all the modules.

That solved the problem! Still a build-error with the nvidia driver
though... But at least I can work again now.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Marco]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Albert Hopkins  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 16:24 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> That seems to happen to me regularly.  One might think that the
>> xorg-server ebuild should know that xf86-input-* needs to be
>> rebuilt as well, but it doesn't seem to work that way.
>
> It does. And the postinst warns that you need to re-merge "all installed
> packages in the x11-drivers category".

You might be right there. Did not really read carefully...

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess

[Florian Philipp]

alain.didierj...@free.fr schrieb:
> Definitly, an update shouldn't break an existing working configuration! This
> happens these days only too often with the Xorg + hal mess.
> I happen to use linux as a working tool and 3 days without being able to 
> launch
> a working X is a source of problems! This is the second time. As for hal 
> config,
> the author should remember that ol'saying:KISS for Keep It Simple, Stupid.
> Now, with or without /etc/X11/xorg.conf, my machine (amd64), updated to
> libxcb-1.4, xorg-1.6 and hal last version launches X all right, only mouse and
> keyboard are not working !
> A line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log says:
> (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse'
> will be disabled.
> Where is that b. AllowEmptyOption  ? certainly not in xorg.conf.
> How do I get back some input on X screen ?
> I also get (with xorg.conf)
> (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "evdev" (module doesn't exist, 0)
> Please help before I turn crazy (it might be too late)
> 

With 'launches X' do you mean your desktop environment (login -> startx)
or xdm/kdm/gdm?

In any case, try to add

Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"

to your xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout"

However, for me this has tripled any key press and also messed up some
other things.

You (and anyone else, actually) might also want to add

Option  "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

to the Section "InputDevice" of your keyboard. This will reenable
Ctrl+Alt+Backspace for killing X.

For me, X started to work again after removing ~/.Xauthority.



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Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[KH]

Marco schrieb:

Hi all,

after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my keyboard (in X)
does not work anymore. Since I am switching to slim after boot, I
cannot even change to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. I guess something
went wrong with the Xorg-update.

I am now using a live-CD to be able to write this email.

Please let me know what information you need else (logs, etc.)

Any tips, hints and suggestions on how to solve my problem highly appreciated!

--
Best regards,
 Marco



Hi,

I bet depclean removed consolkit. I had the same problem. Try the "I" 
stuff during booting like Kenneth wrote. Then sync again and see what 
-DuavN system (or world) tries to install. Like I said I bet there will 
be consolkit among them.

If I loose my bet it must be somthing else from the xorg update.

Regards kh

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 19:07:26 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:

> ...which locks you out if you need to get in...

Yes, sure. OTOH, nothing can lock you out of your own machine ;)

Bye...

Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 18:36:25 schrieb Marco:
> Two questions:
> - Since Xorg is in the default runlevel, how can I boot into gentoo
> without starting X (boot prompt option)?

Add "nox" to your boot options.

> - How can I recreate functional modules for mouse and kbd?

re-emerging them should be sufficient (or even switch to evdev).

Bye...

Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 16:24 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> That seems to happen to me regularly.  One might think that the
> xorg-server ebuild should know that xf86-input-* needs to be
> rebuilt as well, but it doesn't seem to work that way.

It does. And the postinst warns that you need to re-merge "all installed
packages in the x11-drivers category".

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[meino . cramer]

Dirk Heinrichs  [09-10-06 18:56]:
> Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 18:51:14 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> > By the way:
> > By giving " init=/bin/sh" instead of " 2" you can bypass the root
> > and any other login.
> > Thats why it is important to lock grub with a passsword.
> 
> Or embedd the options into the kernel and configure it not to accept 
> additional 
> options.
> 
> Bye...
> 
>   Dirk
> 

...which locks you out if you need to get in...

Bye...

 mcc

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Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Kenneth Prugh]

> Two questions:
> - Since Xorg is in the default runlevel, how can I boot into gentoo
> without starting X (boot prompt option)?

Ever notice the "press I for interactive mode" during init? That's how
you can stop it from launching X.

> - How can I recreate functional modules for mouse and kbd?

emerge -av $(eix -IC x11-drivers --only-names) or emerge -av $(qlist -I
x11-drivers) will rebuild all the modules.

> 
> --
> Regards,
>  Marco


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[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 18:51:14 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> By the way:
> By giving " init=/bin/sh" instead of " 2" you can bypass the root
> and any other login.
> Thats why it is important to lock grub with a passsword.

Or embedd the options into the kernel and configure it not to accept additional 
options.

Bye...

Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[meino . cramer]

Marco  [09-10-06 18:44]:
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Dale  wrote:
> > Marco wrote:
> [...]
> > What happens if you emerge xorg-server with hal disabled?
> 
> Cannot try this since I am not able to do anything as long as I am not
> able to boot in to text-mode only... X is in default runlevel.
> 
> --
> Regards,
>  Marco
> 

Hi Marco,

bad and ugly:

Boot into grub menu (I only know this for grub, other bootmangers
should have similiar).
Inhibtit automatic boot by moving the select bar up and down with the
cursor keys.
If you have locked grub with a password (you have?) enter "p" and
enter the password.
Move the select bar onto the commandline, which give the kernel
parameter.
Press "e" for edit.
Goto the end of the line
Enter ' 2' after the last parameter.
Press "b" for "boot".
You will end up on a commandline and you will be able to login.

By the way:
By giving " init=/bin/sh" instead of " 2" you can bypass the root
and any other login.
Thats why it is important to lock grub with a passsword.

Thats only my lightspeed, your time machine brand may vary ;)

HTH
Good luck!
mcc


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Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Marco]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Dale  wrote:
> Marco wrote:
[...]
> What happens if you emerge xorg-server with hal disabled?

Cannot try this since I am not able to do anything as long as I am not
able to boot in to text-mode only... X is in default runlevel.

--
Regards,
 Marco

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Marco]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Grant Edwards  wrote:
> On 2009-10-06, Marco  wrote:
>
>> after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my
>> keyboard (in X) does not work anymore.
>
> I'm betting you need to re-emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
> (and probably x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and any other
> xf96-input-* packages you use).

That seems to be the problem! See my answer to Neil's mail.

> That seems to happen to me regularly.  One might think that the
> xorg-server ebuild should know that xf86-input-* needs to be
> rebuilt as well, but it doesn't seem to work that way.

Bug or feature?   ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Marco]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:17:12 +, Marco wrote:
>
>> after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my keyboard (in X)
>> does not work anymore. Since I am switching to slim after boot, I
>> cannot even change to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. I guess something
>> went wrong with the Xorg-update.
>
> What did you update?

Lots! About 140 packages (did not update for quite some time...).
Cannot attach a list since I am not having any gentoo-tools available
in my (SuSE Live-CD).

> Does startx work?

Yes, X does start. At least I get the slim login manager displayed.

> What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show?

File is attached to this mail. Seems as module mouse and kbd cannot be loaded.

--> (EE) module ABI major version (2) doesn't match the server's version (4)

Two questions:
- Since Xorg is in the default runlevel, how can I boot into gentoo
without starting X (boot prompt option)?
- How can I recreate functional modules for mouse and kbd?

--
Regards,
 Marco

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Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Dale]

Marco wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my keyboard (in X)
> does not work anymore. Since I am switching to slim after boot, I
> cannot even change to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. I guess something
> went wrong with the Xorg-update.
>
> I am now using a live-CD to be able to write this email.
>
> Please let me know what information you need else (logs, etc.)
>
> Any tips, hints and suggestions on how to solve my problem highly appreciated!
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Marco
>
>
>   

What happens if you emerge xorg-server with hal disabled? 

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Grant Edwards]

On 2009-10-06, Marco  wrote:

> after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my
> keyboard (in X) does not work anymore.

I'm betting you need to re-emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
(and probably x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and any other
xf96-input-* packages you use).

That seems to happen to me regularly.  One might think that the
xorg-server ebuild should know that xf86-input-* needs to be
rebuilt as well, but it doesn't seem to work that way.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:17:12 +, Marco wrote:

> after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my keyboard (in X)
> does not work anymore. Since I am switching to slim after boot, I
> cannot even change to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. I guess something
> went wrong with the Xorg-update.

What did you update?

Does startx work?

What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show?


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[Marco]

Hi all,

after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my keyboard (in X)
does not work anymore. Since I am switching to slim after boot, I
cannot even change to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. I guess something
went wrong with the Xorg-update.

I am now using a live-CD to be able to write this email.

Please let me know what information you need else (logs, etc.)

Any tips, hints and suggestions on how to solve my problem highly appreciated!

--
Best regards,
 Marco

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:35:44 +0200, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:

> Where is that b. AllowEmptyOption  ? certainly not in xorg.conf.

An option not appearing in xorg.cong doesn't mean it is not in use, only
that the default is used. Try man xorg.conf.

> (EE) Failed to load module "evdev" (module doesn't exist, 0)

Do you have evdev in INPUT_DEVICES?


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[gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess

[alain . didierjean]

Definitly, an update shouldn't break an existing working configuration! This
happens these days only too often with the Xorg + hal mess.
I happen to use linux as a working tool and 3 days without being able to launch
a working X is a source of problems! This is the second time. As for hal config,
the author should remember that ol'saying:KISS for Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Now, with or without /etc/X11/xorg.conf, my machine (amd64), updated to
libxcb-1.4, xorg-1.6 and hal last version launches X all right, only mouse and
keyboard are not working !
A line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log says:
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse'
will be disabled.
Where is that b. AllowEmptyOption  ? certainly not in xorg.conf.
How do I get back some input on X screen ?
I also get (with xorg.conf)
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module doesn't exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "evdev" (module doesn't exist, 0)
Please help before I turn crazy (it might be too late)

Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete and a pesky pop-up then it disconnects.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:

> >> I have KDE4 on here.  I just ain't warmed up to it yet.  It just isn't .
> >> . . . me.  The web thing works tho.  :-D
> >
> > Then why don't you use its Kopete? Granted, there are still bits and
> > pieces missing from the good'ole KDE3, but it also has some nice new
> > things.
>
> I tried to use it but it won't open in KDE3 for some reason. It spins
> its wheels for a bit then nothing. It doesn't appear to even try to
> open. I figure it is not set up to work in KDE3.
>
> Dale

I guess you'll have to run it at least once from a KDE4 session, for instance 
so it can setup password management with KWallet. I can run KDE4 apps in 
KDE4, Actually Krusader launches Krename:4 now when I select multiple files 
for renaming. Kopete works with no problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete and a pesky pop-up then it disconnects.

[Dale]

Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
>   
>> Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>> 
>>> Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
>>>   
 Here's a little update.  Yahoo won't even let me sign in anymore.  It
 just sits there.
 
>>> Here too. So either switch to an alternative, to Kopete:4 or let them
>>> suckers be. I don't bother, for my main network is still ICQ. Quoting
>>> Jonathan Callen, KDE4 is in the process of becoming stable "Real Soon
>>> Now™."
>>>   
>> I have KDE4 on here.  I just ain't warmed up to it yet.  It just isn't .
>> . . . me.  The web thing works tho.  :-D
>> 
>
> Then why don't you use its Kopete? Granted, there are still bits and pieces 
> missing from the good'ole KDE3, but it also has some nice new things.
>   

I tried to use it but it won't open in KDE3 for some reason. It spins
its wheels for a bit then nothing. It doesn't appear to even try to
open. I figure it is not set up to work in KDE3.

Dale

:-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete and a pesky pop-up then it disconnects.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
> Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
> >> Here's a little update.  Yahoo won't even let me sign in anymore.  It
> >> just sits there.
> >
> > Here too. So either switch to an alternative, to Kopete:4 or let them
> > suckers be. I don't bother, for my main network is still ICQ. Quoting
> > Jonathan Callen, KDE4 is in the process of becoming stable "Real Soon
> > Now™."
>
> I have KDE4 on here.  I just ain't warmed up to it yet.  It just isn't .
> . . . me.  The web thing works tho.  :-D

Then why don't you use its Kopete? Granted, there are still bits and pieces 
missing from the good'ole KDE3, but it also has some nice new things.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete and a pesky pop-up then it disconnects.

[Dale]

Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
>
>   
>> Here's a little update.  Yahoo won't even let me sign in anymore.  It
>> just sits there.
>> 
>
> Here too. So either switch to an alternative, to Kopete:4 or let them suckers 
> be. I don't bother, for my main network is still ICQ. Quoting Jonathan 
> Callen, KDE4 is in the process of becoming stable "Real Soon Now™."
>   

I have KDE4 on here.  I just ain't warmed up to it yet.  It just isn't .
. . . me.  The web thing works tho.  :-D

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete and a pesky pop-up then it disconnects.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:

> Here's a little update.  Yahoo won't even let me sign in anymore.  It
> just sits there.

Here too. So either switch to an alternative, to Kopete:4 or let them suckers 
be. I don't bother, for my main network is still ICQ. Quoting Jonathan 
Callen, KDE4 is in the process of becoming stable "Real Soon Now™."
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Re: [gentoo-user] makewhatis -u

[Nevynxxx]

KH wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> You run locate every hour?  You must really add files a lot.  :-o
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>
> I am adding a lot of my old cds from the garage. Old backups and
> stuff. :-)
>
> kh
>
Do you search every hour though? If not, why not just have the locate at
it's default, and run it before the odd search if you think the recent
stuff will be relevant?



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Re: [gentoo-user] makewhatis -u

[Dale]

KH wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> You run locate every hour?  You must really add files a lot.  :-o
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>
> I am adding a lot of my old cds from the garage. Old backups and
> stuff. :-)
>
> kh
>
>

Oh, new hard drive huh?  I'm looking at doing the same thing.  I got DSL
and they fill up FAST now thanks to youtube.  Problem is, I just got a
new TV that was almost a steal and I got to pay it off first. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?

[Jesús Guerrero]

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:22:23 +0900, daid kahl  wrote:
> 2009/10/5 Jesús Guerrero :
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:42:22 +0100, Stroller
>>  wrote:
>>> On 5 Oct 2009, at 15:18, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>>>
>>> I actually find this a little surprising. I might have thought that
>>> the devs might have separated the decryption and playback components:
>>> one could imagine it being legal to play back a region 0 DVD in some
>>> territories, but not to install or operate encryption "circumvention"
>>> software.
>>
>> Yes, I agree, USE flags are a bit fuzzy. Even if legality wasn't a
>> problem, still it's not accurate to use such a name for an use flag
that
>> adds support for decryption. It's even funnier when you realize that
you
>> don't even need to enable it to play all the dvd's (only encrypted
ones).
>> In such cases, the best thing is to fill an enhancement bug and hope
for
>> the best. I might do that later if I manager to remember it.
> 
> Yeah, I'm agreeing about this notion.  Particularly with the legality
> issues, there might be some desire to separate watching unencrypted
> DVDs from encryption.
> 
> I suppose if the enhancement bug is filed, a suggested name for the
> new USE flag is something like dvd-crypto.

There was already a bug and it's now closed and fixed. Kaffeine now has a
css use flag. css has been chosen because already exists and has exactly
that purpose, and besides that, the library that does the work and is
pushed as a dependency to play encrypted dvds is called "libdvdcss".

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287057

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] makewhatis -u

[KH]

Dale schrieb:

[snip]


You run locate every hour?  You must really add files a lot.  :-o

Dale

:-)  :-)



I am adding a lot of my old cds from the garage. Old backups and stuff. :-)

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete and a pesky pop-up then it disconnects.

[Dale]

forgottenwizard wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 01:11:06AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>   
>> Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.  Mine was grayed out to but I changed them to what you have and
>> it still does the same thing.  So, I guess Yahoo is no more for me until
>> I KDE4 is ready to go. 
>>
>> 
>
> You could use Pidgin, or just try updating kopete by itself (and its
> dependant libs, of course). If KDE3 is in its down directory, then this
> shouldn't be hard to do.
>
>
>
>   

Here's a little update.  Yahoo won't even let me sign in anymore.  It
just sits there.

By Yahoo.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool

[dhk]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009, dhk wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> On Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009, dhk wrote:
 I recently ran a make clean on a C/Gtk program I'm developing and now
 can't run ./configure to rebuild it.  It looks like all my libtool links
 are broken.  There were links to the following files, but now those
 files don't exist.

 /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh
 /usr/share/libtool/config.sub
 /usr/share/libtool/config.guess
>>> and afaik that is correct.
>>>
>>> have a look into
>>> /usr/share/libtool/config
>>>
 Also the root cause of this was probably an emerge I did this weekend
 with the -e option.  Is something missing?
>>> no, nothing is missing - look into config
>>>
 I ran fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.6 which I think I did before and then ran
 emerge --oneshot -av libtool and this didn't fix anything.
>>> fix_libtool_files fixes *la files containing wrong stuff.
>>>
 Any ideas?
>>> idea: there is nothing wrong but your symlinks.
>> It's good to know that it's just the symlinks.  I changed the one to
>> ltmain.sh, but when I run configure config/config.sub is still missing
>> and when I run make clean I still get the following.
>>
>>  $ make clean cd . && /bin/sh
>> /home/max/Dev/Pos/Pos09/pos/trunk/config/missing --run automake-1.9 --gnu
>> configure.ac:53: required file `config/config.guess' not found
>> configure.ac:53: required file `config/config.sub' not found
>> configure.ac:45: required file `config/ltmain.sh' not found
>> make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave
>>
> 
> what are the contents of /usr/share/libtool/config?
> 
> on my system I get this:
> ls -lh /usr/share/libtool/config
> insgesamt 512K
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3,7K  6. Okt 06:55 compile
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   33  6. Okt 06:55 config.guess -> 
> /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   31  6. Okt 06:55 config.sub -> 
> /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18K  6. Okt 06:55 depcomp
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14K  6. Okt 06:55 install-sh
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 238K  6. Okt 06:55 ltmain.sh
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  11K  6. Okt 06:55 missing
> 
> 
> 


Got it, it was just the symlinks.  When I made them the first time they
ended up in the wrong directory.  It's fixed now and works.

Thanks,

Dave

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009, dhk wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009, dhk wrote:
> >> I recently ran a make clean on a C/Gtk program I'm developing and now
> >> can't run ./configure to rebuild it.  It looks like all my libtool links
> >> are broken.  There were links to the following files, but now those
> >> files don't exist.
> >>
> >> /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh
> >> /usr/share/libtool/config.sub
> >> /usr/share/libtool/config.guess
> >
> > and afaik that is correct.
> >
> > have a look into
> > /usr/share/libtool/config
> >
> >> Also the root cause of this was probably an emerge I did this weekend
> >> with the -e option.  Is something missing?
> >
> > no, nothing is missing - look into config
> >
> >> I ran fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.6 which I think I did before and then ran
> >> emerge --oneshot -av libtool and this didn't fix anything.
> >
> > fix_libtool_files fixes *la files containing wrong stuff.
> >
> >> Any ideas?
> >
> > idea: there is nothing wrong but your symlinks.
> 
> It's good to know that it's just the symlinks.  I changed the one to
> ltmain.sh, but when I run configure config/config.sub is still missing
> and when I run make clean I still get the following.
> 
>  $ make clean cd . && /bin/sh
> /home/max/Dev/Pos/Pos09/pos/trunk/config/missing --run automake-1.9 --gnu
> configure.ac:53: required file `config/config.guess' not found
> configure.ac:53: required file `config/config.sub' not found
> configure.ac:45: required file `config/ltmain.sh' not found
> make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1
> 
> ???
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
> 

what are the contents of /usr/share/libtool/config?

on my system I get this:
ls -lh /usr/share/libtool/config
insgesamt 512K
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3,7K  6. Okt 06:55 compile
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   33  6. Okt 06:55 config.guess -> 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   31  6. Okt 06:55 config.sub -> 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18K  6. Okt 06:55 depcomp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14K  6. Okt 06:55 install-sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 238K  6. Okt 06:55 ltmain.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  11K  6. Okt 06:55 missing

Re: [gentoo-user] makewhatis -u

[Dale]

KH wrote:
> Hi,
>
> during an update I read somewhere something like: "Hey run makewhatis
> -u . Also you should have a cronjob doing this regularly."
>
> I never heard of this before (but I am not the real geek - more like a
> user) but I wonder how regularly I should have the cronjob run the
> command. Is this to be done with every update or like every hour (like
> I do with locate -u)?
>
> Thanks for suggestions
>
>

If you don't use man pages, you may not need to even run it at all.  It
has a daily cron job here that I assume portage put there.  I don't
recall putting it there at least.  I think it would be nice for it to
check this after emerging something that updates a man page myself. 
Maybe some extra option in make.conf or something.  Oooops, watch it
already be a option that I don't know about.  LOL

You run locate every hour?  You must really add files a lot.  :-o

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: makewhatis -u

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 10/06/2009 03:16 PM, KH wrote:

Hi,

during an update I read somewhere something like: "Hey run makewhatis -u
. Also you should have a cronjob doing this regularly."

I never heard of this before (but I am not the real geek - more like a
user) but I wonder how regularly I should have the cronjob run the
command. Is this to be done with every update or like every hour (like I
do with locate -u)?


Whenever man pages are changed.  It's responsible for the answer you get 
when typing:


  whatis ping

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool

[dhk]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009, dhk wrote:
>> I recently ran a make clean on a C/Gtk program I'm developing and now
>> can't run ./configure to rebuild it.  It looks like all my libtool links
>> are broken.  There were links to the following files, but now those
>> files don't exist.
>>
>> /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh
>> /usr/share/libtool/config.sub
>> /usr/share/libtool/config.guess
> 
> and afaik that is correct.
> 
> have a look into
> /usr/share/libtool/config
> 
>> Also the root cause of this was probably an emerge I did this weekend
>> with the -e option.  Is something missing?
> 
> no, nothing is missing - look into config
> 
>> I ran fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.6 which I think I did before and then ran
>> emerge --oneshot -av libtool and this didn't fix anything.
> 
> fix_libtool_files fixes *la files containing wrong stuff.
> 
>> Any ideas?
> 
> idea: there is nothing wrong but your symlinks.
> 
> 

It's good to know that it's just the symlinks.  I changed the one to
ltmain.sh, but when I run configure config/config.sub is still missing
and when I run make clean I still get the following.

 $ make clean cd . && /bin/sh
/home/max/Dev/Pos/Pos09/pos/trunk/config/missing --run automake-1.9 --gnu
configure.ac:53: required file `config/config.guess' not found
configure.ac:53: required file `config/config.sub' not found
configure.ac:45: required file `config/ltmain.sh' not found
make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1

???

Thanks,

Dave

[gentoo-user] makewhatis -u

[KH]

Hi,

during an update I read somewhere something like: "Hey run makewhatis -u 
. Also you should have a cronjob doing this regularly."


I never heard of this before (but I am not the real geek - more like a 
user) but I wonder how regularly I should have the cronjob run the 
command. Is this to be done with every update or like every hour (like I 
do with locate -u)?


Thanks for suggestions

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009, dhk wrote:
> I recently ran a make clean on a C/Gtk program I'm developing and now
> can't run ./configure to rebuild it.  It looks like all my libtool links
> are broken.  There were links to the following files, but now those
> files don't exist.
> 
> /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh
> /usr/share/libtool/config.sub
> /usr/share/libtool/config.guess

and afaik that is correct.

have a look into
/usr/share/libtool/config

> > 
> Also the root cause of this was probably an emerge I did this weekend
> with the -e option.  Is something missing?

no, nothing is missing - look into config

> 
> I ran fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.6 which I think I did before and then ran
> emerge --oneshot -av libtool and this didn't fix anything.

fix_libtool_files fixes *la files containing wrong stuff.

> 
> Any ideas?

idea: there is nothing wrong but your symlinks.

[gentoo-user] libtool

[dhk]

I recently ran a make clean on a C/Gtk program I'm developing and now
can't run ./configure to rebuild it.  It looks like all my libtool links
are broken.  There were links to the following files, but now those
files don't exist.

/usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh
/usr/share/libtool/config.sub
/usr/share/libtool/config.guess

Now there's an ltmain.sh in /usr/share/libtool/config/but I'm not sure
if I should use that one.

Also the root cause of this was probably an emerge I did this weekend
with the -e option.  Is something missing?

I ran fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.6 which I think I did before and then ran
emerge --oneshot -av libtool and this didn't fix anything.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Dave

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: PC as USB client

[Rohit]

I have seen a cable and a box (USB powered only) which used to make drives
of one machine available to the other.
It was available from scan.co.uk - 2 years back.

Rohit

2009/10/6 Alex Schuster 

> Hi there!
>
> Not really specific to gentoo, except that I want to do this with a Gentoo
> PC: Is it possible to attach my Gentoo PC 'G' to another PC 'W' (running
> Windows) via USB, so that G appears to be a removable media to W? I think
> you need special USB cables with some electronics in the middlle for that,
> and I saw such a solution for Windows. Does anybody know if this is
> possible
> with Linux?
> There is a usbnet driver for Linux, but this is not what I want.
>
> Thanks,
>Wonko
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Any good documentation out there? Anyone use NGINX?

[Dale]

David Juhl wrote:
> Finding another job is impossible.  I am under an enlistment contract.
>
>
>   

And if you did, you wouldn't have any internet access in the brig.  O_O

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] OT: PC as USB client

[Alex Schuster]

Hi there!

Not really specific to gentoo, except that I want to do this with a Gentoo 
PC: Is it possible to attach my Gentoo PC 'G' to another PC 'W' (running 
Windows) via USB, so that G appears to be a removable media to W? I think 
you need special USB cables with some electronics in the middlle for that, 
and I saw such a solution for Windows. Does anybody know if this is possible 
with Linux?
There is a usbnet driver for Linux, but this is not what I want.

Thanks,
Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Any good documentation out there? Anyone use NGINX?

[David Juhl]

Finding another job is impossible.  I am under an enlistment contract.


On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:38 -0700, Keith Dart wrote:
> === On Mon, 10/05, David Juhl wrote: ===
> > Any thoughts are appreciated...
> ===
> 
> Find another job?
> 
> 
> -- Keith Dart
> 
-- 
SGT Juhl, David L.
US ARMY

[gentoo-user] debug and regular library

[Krzysztof Poc]

HelloI would like to install the debugged version of glibc. Compiled withsymbols and minimal optimization. I don't want it to be the default libc in mysystem. I want to link it only with some programs.I'm familiar with the following document:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml?style=printableHow can I solve my problem.Great thanks for help.10 minut do cennych nagród, wykorzystaj szansę!Kliknij:http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://corto.www.wp.pl/as/pentagon_serwery.html&sid=877