[gentoo-user] return of SOD

[Maxim Wexler]

Hi group,

That's (S)creen (O)f (D)eath. I thought I had fixed this problem on my
eee. I would get these SODs, black usually, but sometimes white and
once green while connected to the web(don't know if that's
significant). At first I thought it was the browser, so I tried
firefox-3.0, firefox-3.5, opera-10. Same story, so I replaced xfce4
with fluxbox, no screen savers, no icons, widgets, just the default
bar at the bottom of the screen and there was no problem for several
days until this morning the desktop went totally black and wouldn't
respond to mouse or keyboard.

 I did #tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log immediately from a spare console but
there was no sign of trouble.

I can get back to the start console, ctl-c and run startx again but
the desktop remains black. To get back the desktop I have to reboot.

Anybody guess what's happening here?

Maxim

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Mark Knecht]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:00:33 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Was it an endless loop? AIUI you emerged twice and the
>> > @preserved-rebuild count decreased. In my experience, it can
>> > occasionally take a few runs to clear the list, sometimes subsequent
>> > runs add packages that were not there previously, but it all clears
>> > in the end, I have NEVER had to resort to deleting the registry file
>> > manually.
>
>> If I don't run it forever then I don't think I can say it would never
>> clear up. Can't prove a negative, etc.
>
> When you get identical package lists on subsequent runs, I think it's
> fair to say it won't fix itself. This has never happened to me.
>
>> However, it did get to the point where it was complaining about two
>> packages and the number of files to be rebuilt went (IIRC) 52, 50, 50,
>> so I decide since it was rebuilding 50 packages the 2nd & 3rd times it
>> wasn't going to improve. Might not be true though.
>
> I think it is being over-cautious, which results in packages being
> rebuilt multiple time unnecessarily, but I's rather give it the chance to
> fix itself. That said, I've never had a list anything like 50 packages
> long, but I do update frequently.
>
It wasn't that I had 50 packages in the emerge -DuN @world. That was
something like 10. It was after that finished and I ran
@preserved-rebuild that it said 50 packages were effected by something
it found, but those 50 were all dependent on just one or two packages
that Alan was suggesting to me are held in the preserved database
file, or so I think.

Again, you know me...basically a flunky just trying to use my tool box
to play music even if I don't know how the tool box works...

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] udev problem during boot SOLVED

[Francisco Ares]

Thanks a lot, that was it.

There's an issue with genkernel too, as it didn't disabled
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED as stated during an still failing boot.

Compiled again with that key disabled, and now I'm on my favorite
environment without rescue CDs.

Have some polishing to do, though ;-)

Thanks again
Francisco

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Daniel Pielmeier  wrote:

> Francisco Ares schrieb am 13.11.2009 23:19:
> > Hi
> >
> > After a lot of updates without rebooting (I`ve been keeping my computer
> on
> > during several weeks), now it can`t boot anymore. Thanks to the LiveDVD
> I`m
> > able to try somethings, including a "emerge --sync" and a "emerge -vuDN
> > world", followed up by a "etc-update" and a "revdep-rebuild" - nothing
> > strange and no results.
> >
> > The error message is like this (I had to copy it by hand, sorry for any
> > typo):
> >
> > *Press I to enter interactive mod
> >  * Mounting proc at /proc ... [ok]
> >  *** Skipping mount of /sys as /sys/kernel exists
> > ** *** Mounting /dev ...
>  [ok]
> > ** * Starting udevd ...
> [ok]
> > **
> > ** * Populating /dev with existing devices through uevents ...
>  [ok]
> > **
> > ** * Assuming udev failed somewhere, as /dev/zero does not exist
>  **
> > ** * Mounting devpts at /dev/pts ...
>  [ok]
> > **
> > ** * Caching service dependencies ...
> **
> > [ok]**
> > Can't open /dev/fb0 or /dev/fb/0
> > failed to configure resolution and icon positioning
> > Failed to load theme 'livecd-2007.0'
> > ** * Checking root filesystem ...
> > Failed to open the device '/dev/sda9': No such file or directory
> >
> >
> > ** * Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
> > Give root password for maintenance
> > (or type Control-D to continue):
> > ** ** **
> > *Giving root password and listing the contents of the '/dev' directory,
> > there are very few entries, none for my disk partitions, for example.
> >
> > I`ve already re-emerged udev, baselayout, and even built a new kernel -
> > currently using 2.6.27-r7 and tried 2.6.30-r8 (I guess there`s nothing to
> do
> > with the kernel, but I've built it just in case)
> >
> > Most probably I missed some messages during the ebuilds of the updates
> I've
> > been applying.
> >
> > Any ideas on where to look for?
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > Francisco
>
> I guess this is baselayout-1. Please take a look at bug #291916 [1]
>
> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/291916
>
> --
> Daniel Pielmeier
>
>


-- 
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and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas." -
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Re: [gentoo-user] Block root user from login on xorg GUI

[Mick]

On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:08:18 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 22:18 +, Mick wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 22:09:01 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > Gdm itself has a config option to disallow root logins
> >
> > Ahh, unfortunately I can only access it remotely via ssh at this stage.
> > Hopefully the pam method will work fine.
> 
> You don't need anything more to configure gdm than ssh access - this is
> Linux after all & a good program has text based configurations :)
> 
> Edit /etc/X11/gdm/custom.conf
> 
> In the section [security] add:
> AllowRoot=false

Thanks for this!  :-)

> You may then have to restart xdm.
> 
> However, if someone has the root password to log in to X, then what's to
> stop them changing anything you do now?

Know how?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:00:33 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

  

Was it an endless loop? AIUI you emerged twice and the
@preserved-rebuild count decreased. In my experience, it can
occasionally take a few runs to clear the list, sometimes subsequent
runs add packages that were not there previously, but it all clears
in the end, I have NEVER had to resort to deleting the registry file
manually.
  


  

If I don't run it forever then I don't think I can say it would never
clear up. Can't prove a negative, etc.



When you get identical package lists on subsequent runs, I think it's
fair to say it won't fix itself. This has never happened to me.

  


I had this happen to me the other day.  I ran preserved-rebuild 3 or 4 
times with the last two or three being the same.  I can't recall if I 
posted it here or not, I think I did tho, but I did eventually get it 
sorted by emerging packages in a certain order.  After that, it came 
back clean with nothing needing to be rebuilt.


I update about twice a week as a general rule.  Sort of depends.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] kdemultimedia-arts-3.5.10 and the arts flag

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:37:28 -0600, Dale wrote:

  
Well, if it would let me ditch it, I would ditch it.  I guess it is KDE 
that wants this thing so badly.  I dunno.



Nope, otherwise it wouldn't have a USE flag to make it optional. I ran
KDE£ with -arts for years.


  


Just picking on this one since it is newer.  ;-)  I finally got through 
the other stuff, with arts enabled since it griped about the change 
before, and I am now disabling arts.  I think it wanted it so badly 
because I was doing a preserved-rebuild and other packages had it 
enabled.  I don't guess a -N option would take on that emerge.


I think I did this once before and my sound disappeared.  Everything 
went mute so I may be back.  It may just be a setting in KDE or 
something that needs changing.  That was a while ago to.  I barely 
remember it.  Then again, maybe it wasn't sooo long ago.  What did I 
have for breakfast today?  ^_^


Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:00:33 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

> >
> > Was it an endless loop? AIUI you emerged twice and the
> > @preserved-rebuild count decreased. In my experience, it can
> > occasionally take a few runs to clear the list, sometimes subsequent
> > runs add packages that were not there previously, but it all clears
> > in the end, I have NEVER had to resort to deleting the registry file
> > manually.

> If I don't run it forever then I don't think I can say it would never
> clear up. Can't prove a negative, etc.

When you get identical package lists on subsequent runs, I think it's
fair to say it won't fix itself. This has never happened to me.

> However, it did get to the point where it was complaining about two
> packages and the number of files to be rebuilt went (IIRC) 52, 50, 50,
> so I decide since it was rebuilding 50 packages the 2nd & 3rd times it
> wasn't going to improve. Might not be true though.

I think it is being over-cautious, which results in packages being
rebuilt multiple time unnecessarily, but I's rather give it the chance to
fix itself. That said, I've never had a list anything like 50 packages
long, but I do update frequently.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Why are love and relationships so confusing?


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Mark Knecht]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:19:26 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> I agree that we want to be in agreement but then what are our options
>> if emerge @preserved-rebuild goes into an endless loop as it seems it
>> was doing yesterday?
>
> Was it an endless loop? AIUI you emerged twice and the @preserved-rebuild
> count decreased. In my experience, it can occasionally take a few runs to
> clear the list, sometimes subsequent runs add packages that were not
> there previously, but it all clears in the end, I have NEVER had to
> resort to deleting the registry file manually.
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick

If I don't run it forever then I don't think I can say it would never
clear up. Can't prove a negative, etc.

However, it did get to the point where it was complaining about two
packages and the number of files to be rebuilt went (IIRC) 52, 50, 50,
so I decide since it was rebuilding 50 packages the 2nd & 3rd times it
wasn't going to improve. Might not be true though.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] kdemultimedia-arts-3.5.10 and the arts flag

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:37:28 -0600, Dale wrote:

> Well, if it would let me ditch it, I would ditch it.  I guess it is KDE 
> that wants this thing so badly.  I dunno.

Nope, otherwise it wouldn't have a USE flag to make it optional. I ran
KDE£ with -arts for years.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:19:26 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

> I agree that we want to be in agreement but then what are our options
> if emerge @preserved-rebuild goes into an endless loop as it seems it
> was doing yesterday?

Was it an endless loop? AIUI you emerged twice and the @preserved-rebuild
count decreased. In my experience, it can occasionally take a few runs to
clear the list, sometimes subsequent runs add packages that were not
there previously, but it all clears in the end, I have NEVER had to
resort to deleting the registry file manually.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:39:20 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > Try K9-Mail, a proper POP/IMAP mailer that now supports push mail (the
> > only reason I stuck with the GMail app for the past year).

> Good link, thanks  :-)
> 
> I downloaded it and so far it looks OK, but need to play more. First
> thing I need to figure out is how to make it refresh the inbox when,
> and only when, I click the button myself. I don't quite do this "beep
> at me every time there's a new email" thing - I already have several
> notebooks for that :-)

I don't do the beep thing either, I don't want it waking me up in the
middle of the night just to let me know a phishing mail made it past my
spam filter, I just have the status bar notification.

You can get what you want in the account settings, set the check
frequency to never and the folder push mode to None.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

All Scottish food is based on a dare.


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev problem during boot

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Francisco Ares schrieb am 13.11.2009 23:19:
> Hi
> 
> After a lot of updates without rebooting (I`ve been keeping my computer on
> during several weeks), now it can`t boot anymore. Thanks to the LiveDVD I`m
> able to try somethings, including a "emerge --sync" and a "emerge -vuDN
> world", followed up by a "etc-update" and a "revdep-rebuild" - nothing
> strange and no results.
> 
> The error message is like this (I had to copy it by hand, sorry for any
> typo):
> 
> *Press I to enter interactive mod
>  * Mounting proc at /proc ... [ok]
>  *** Skipping mount of /sys as /sys/kernel exists
> ** *** Mounting /dev ...  [ok]
> ** * Starting udevd ... [ok]
> **
> ** * Populating /dev with existing devices through uevents ...  [ok]
> **
> ** * Assuming udev failed somewhere, as /dev/zero does not exist  **
> ** * Mounting devpts at /dev/pts ...[ok]
> **
> ** * Caching service dependencies ...   **
> [ok]**
> Can't open /dev/fb0 or /dev/fb/0
> failed to configure resolution and icon positioning
> Failed to load theme 'livecd-2007.0'
> ** * Checking root filesystem ...
> Failed to open the device '/dev/sda9': No such file or directory
> 
> 
> ** * Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
> Give root password for maintenance
> (or type Control-D to continue):
> ** ** **
> *Giving root password and listing the contents of the '/dev' directory,
> there are very few entries, none for my disk partitions, for example.
> 
> I`ve already re-emerged udev, baselayout, and even built a new kernel -
> currently using 2.6.27-r7 and tried 2.6.30-r8 (I guess there`s nothing to do
> with the kernel, but I've built it just in case)
> 
> Most probably I missed some messages during the ebuilds of the updates I've
> been applying.
> 
> Any ideas on where to look for?
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> Francisco

I guess this is baselayout-1. Please take a look at bug #291916 [1]

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/291916

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Mark Knecht]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Alan McKinnon  wrote:
> On Friday 13 November 2009 21:46:04 Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Alan McKinnon 
> wrote:
>> > On Friday 13 November 2009 14:39:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:58:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> >> > Almost invariably it's an automagic dependency where the offending
>> >> > package is not in DEPEND. If you have been through the cycle at least
>> >> > once, it is safe to delete /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry
>> >> > and continue on your way.
>> >>
>> >> Won't that leave orphaned libraries hanging around since they aren't
>> >> removed until emerges complete successfully? I've seen this behaviour
>> >> before, where the list gets shorter each time and let it run its course.
>> >> It may take longer, but you know it's safe.
>> >
>> > Interesting point. My tests before indicated that a full --depclean
>> > sorted everything out, but I can't be certain. @preserved-rebuild deletes
>> > orphans once it's complete, but it would be nice to verify what happens
>> > otherwise.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, it's been a long time since any of my machines got stuck
>> > in this loop. I must have earned some good joss in recent months... --
>> > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>>
>> If this problem is fundamentally due to dependencies not in DEPEND
>> then is there any evidence that it's big a problem? I.e. - there
>> aren't many packages that create the loop from what I've seen so far.
>>
>> I've had this issue show up on all the machines I've updated this
>> week, but it was always (I think) the same packages that caused the
>> problems. As Neil suggested, at least on one machine the number of
>> offending packages did seem to go down, but it would never go to zero
>> as far as I can tell. (I did it 3 times on one box just to convince
>> myself but emerging 50 packages gets boring.) While I haven't bug
>> reported it I suspect someone will jump on this and a few days or
>> weeks from now it won't exist, at least for these packages.
>>
>> Other than disk space what's the technical downside of some libraries
>> being stranded. Will this somehow leave applications pointing at old
>> library binaries?
>
> The basic problem is that portage's idea of the state of the machine differs
> from reality. For a package manager, that's not a good thing as sooner or
> later it will do the wrong thing.
>
> Detecting orphans is also an expensive process later so it's best to avoid it
> happening if possible
>
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

I agree that we want to be in agreement but then what are our options
if emerge @preserved-rebuild goes into an endless loop as it seems it
was doing yesterday? Do we just stop looping, wait until someone may
one day fix the ebuild, and then try again never knowing when things
will be correct again?

I had a problem show up last evening after I thought everything was
done. I went back for one last revdep-rebuild and then it decided to
tell me that there were wine libraries on the machine unowned by any
installed package. Now this machine hasn't had Wine on it in over a
year so I cannot understand why it would start telling me that today
but it did.

It seems to me that expensive or not it would be great to have a tool
that completely checked every single library on the machine if that's
what it takes. I thought revdep-rebuild was doing that but now I'm not
so sure.

Cheers,
Mark

[gentoo-user] udev problem during boot

[Francisco Ares]

Hi

After a lot of updates without rebooting (I`ve been keeping my computer on
during several weeks), now it can`t boot anymore. Thanks to the LiveDVD I`m
able to try somethings, including a "emerge --sync" and a "emerge -vuDN
world", followed up by a "etc-update" and a "revdep-rebuild" - nothing
strange and no results.

The error message is like this (I had to copy it by hand, sorry for any
typo):

*Press I to enter interactive mod
 * Mounting proc at /proc ... [ok]
 *** Skipping mount of /sys as /sys/kernel exists
** *** Mounting /dev ...  [ok]
** * Starting udevd ... [ok]
**
** * Populating /dev with existing devices through uevents ...  [ok]
**
** * Assuming udev failed somewhere, as /dev/zero does not exist  **
** * Mounting devpts at /dev/pts ...[ok]
**
** * Caching service dependencies ...   **
[ok]**
Can't open /dev/fb0 or /dev/fb/0
failed to configure resolution and icon positioning
Failed to load theme 'livecd-2007.0'
** * Checking root filesystem ...
Failed to open the device '/dev/sda9': No such file or directory


** * Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D to continue):
** ** **
*Giving root password and listing the contents of the '/dev' directory,
there are very few entries, none for my disk partitions, for example.

I`ve already re-emerged udev, baselayout, and even built a new kernel -
currently using 2.6.27-r7 and tried 2.6.30-r8 (I guess there`s nothing to do
with the kernel, but I've built it just in case)

Most probably I missed some messages during the ebuilds of the updates I've
been applying.

Any ideas on where to look for?

Thanks a lot!
Francisco
-- 
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas." -
George Bernard Shaw

[gentoo-user] Re: Quoting style on HTC Dream

[James]

Alan McKinnon  gmail.com> writes:


> Do you mean "droid" as a synonym for Android?

yes,
Verizon is offering the HTC ERIS (DROID) phone, in 
addition to the Mot DROID phone:
http://www.htc.com/us/product/droideris/specification.html

> To flash it you need root privileges which is a trivial hack; 
> carrier-provided 
> phones usually have this disabled but this too has been hacked around. Then 
> followed Google and HTC's own docs on the flash procedure 

> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream
> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Main_Page
> HTC images available at http://developer.htc.com/adp.html
> 
> This page describes how to install Debian so gentoo will also be possible:
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507291

Nice links but do they relate to the Mot version of the DROID, or just the HTC?
Mot put a very fast Cortex-A8 arm chip in their phone..

Will flashing work with the Verizon HTC Eris phone like yours?
Not sure by my googling results.


James

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 21:46:04 Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Alan McKinnon  
wrote:
> > On Friday 13 November 2009 14:39:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:58:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> > Almost invariably it's an automagic dependency where the offending
> >> > package is not in DEPEND. If you have been through the cycle at least
> >> > once, it is safe to delete /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry
> >> > and continue on your way.
> >>
> >> Won't that leave orphaned libraries hanging around since they aren't
> >> removed until emerges complete successfully? I've seen this behaviour
> >> before, where the list gets shorter each time and let it run its course.
> >> It may take longer, but you know it's safe.
> >
> > Interesting point. My tests before indicated that a full --depclean
> > sorted everything out, but I can't be certain. @preserved-rebuild deletes
> > orphans once it's complete, but it would be nice to verify what happens
> > otherwise.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it's been a long time since any of my machines got stuck
> > in this loop. I must have earned some good joss in recent months... --
> > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> 
> If this problem is fundamentally due to dependencies not in DEPEND
> then is there any evidence that it's big a problem? I.e. - there
> aren't many packages that create the loop from what I've seen so far.
> 
> I've had this issue show up on all the machines I've updated this
> week, but it was always (I think) the same packages that caused the
> problems. As Neil suggested, at least on one machine the number of
> offending packages did seem to go down, but it would never go to zero
> as far as I can tell. (I did it 3 times on one box just to convince
> myself but emerging 50 packages gets boring.) While I haven't bug
> reported it I suspect someone will jump on this and a few days or
> weeks from now it won't exist, at least for these packages.
> 
> Other than disk space what's the technical downside of some libraries
> being stranded. Will this somehow leave applications pointing at old
> library binaries?

The basic problem is that portage's idea of the state of the machine differs 
from reality. For a package manager, that's not a good thing as sooner or 
later it will do the wrong thing.

Detecting orphans is also an expensive process later so it's best to avoid it 
happening if possible


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] making a file-list at (a) for fetching at (b)

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 22:24:34 Maxim Wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Can someone explain to me how to generate a list of files to be
> fetched, eg -fuDN world, on a slow desktop that can be downloaded onto
> a netbook later?


emerge -pf  

redirect to a file, bash it into suitable shape with your Unix text tools of 
course, use said file as input to wget.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] making a file-list at (a) for fetching at (b)

[Jesús Guerrero]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:36:27 -0500, Marcus Wanner  wrote:
> On 11/13/2009 3:24 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
>> Hi group,
>>
>> Can someone explain to me how to generate a list of files to be
>> fetched, eg -fuDN world, on a slow desktop that can be downloaded onto
>> a netbook later?
>>
>> Maxim
>>   
> You want to generate a list of packages to be upgraded, and then upgrade

> them on different computer?

He probably wants to update a computer that's got not internet connection.
Hence, he will need to get a list of the URI's to download in (a), then
fetch them from another computer (b), then put all the files on the
$DISTDIR of the (a) computer. Emerge will pick them from there instead of
looking for a way to download them.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero

Re: [gentoo-user] making a file-list at (a) for fetching at (b)

[Jesús Guerrero]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:24:34 -0700, Maxim Wexler 
wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Can someone explain to me how to generate a list of files to be
> fetched, eg -fuDN world, on a slow desktop that can be downloaded onto
> a netbook later?

Add -p or --pretend, and redirect the output to a file.

  emerge -fuDNp world > list.txt
-- 
Jesús Guerrero

Re: [gentoo-user] making a file-list at (a) for fetching at (b)

[Marcus Wanner]

On 11/13/2009 3:24 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:

Hi group,

Can someone explain to me how to generate a list of files to be
fetched, eg -fuDN world, on a slow desktop that can be downloaded onto
a netbook later?

Maxim
  
You want to generate a list of packages to be upgraded, and then upgrade 
them on different computer?


Marcus

[gentoo-user] making a file-list at (a) for fetching at (b)

[Maxim Wexler]

Hi group,

Can someone explain to me how to generate a list of files to be
fetched, eg -fuDN world, on a slow desktop that can be downloaded onto
a netbook later?

Maxim

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Jacques Montier]

Julien Gormotte a gentiment tapote:

> 
> Ok, this is interesting :
> libpng12.so.0
> libQtSvg.so.4
> I suppose the icons are in png or svg format, and k3b is not able to
> load them because this lib is missing...
> 
> Did you tried a revdep-rebuild ? maybe an update broke these libs ?
> 
> Well, it's a possibility, but try this.
> 
> And, just to be sure, try to do this, with the same user you use to
> launch k3b :
> file /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/*
> 
> If it works, then it's not a permissions problem.
> 
> Julien Gormotte
> 
> 
> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> 
> 
> 
>

$ file /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/*
i get :
/usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/crystalsvg: directory
/usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/hicolor:directory

So i can access to those directories as user.

Now revdep-rebuild...

Thank you for you help !

--
Jacques

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Dale]

Julien Gormotte wrote:


Ok, this is interesting :
libpng12.so.0
libQtSvg.so.4
I suppose the icons are in png or svg format, and k3b is not able to 
load them because this lib is missing...


Did you tried a revdep-rebuild ? maybe an update broke these libs ?

Well, it's a possibility, but try this.

And, just to be sure, try to do this, with the same user you use to 
launch k3b :

file /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/*

If it works, then it's not a permissions problem.

Julien Gormotte


If you need to rebuild those missing libraries, this may help.  On my 
system they belong to:


r...@smoker / # equery b libQtSvg.so.4
[ Searching for file(s) libQtSvg.so.4 in *... ]
x11-libs/qt-svg-4.5.3-r1 (/usr/lib/qt4/libQtSvg.so.4 -> libQtSvg.so.4.5.3)
r...@smoker / # equery b libpng12.so.0
[ Searching for file(s) libpng12.so.0 in *... ]
media-libs/libpng-1.2.38 (/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 -> libpng12.so.0.38.0)
r...@smoker / #


Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.6.5 build errors (~x86 upgrade)

[Marcus Wanner]

On 11/12/2009 11:36 PM, Roy Wright wrote:


On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Marcus Wanner wrote:


Spoke too soon...now I'm getting this:

../doltcompile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. 
-I../include-DHAVE_ssing-declarations -Wnested-externs 
-fno-strict-aliasing -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CI/usr/include/pixman-1 
-I/usr/include/hal -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbuxt 
-I../xfixes -I../Xi -I../mi -I../miext/shadow  -I../miext/damage 
-I../render (1) * 1000) + ((6) * 10) + ((5) * 1000) + 0)" 
-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe ch.lo dispatch.c

In file included from ../Xext/panoramiX.h:44,
   from dispatch.c:134:
/usr/include/X11/extensions/panoramiXext.h:49: error: expected ')' 
before '*' to
/usr/include/X11/extensions/panoramiXext.h:54: error: expected '=', 
',', ';', 'a
/usr/include/X11/extensions/panoramiXext.h:64: error: expected '=', 
',', ';', 'a
/usr/include/X11/extensions/panoramiXext.h:70: error: expected '=', 
',', ';', 'a
/usr/include/X11/extensions/panoramiXext.h:76: error: expected '=', 
',', ';', 'a

dispatch.c: In function 'ProcCloseFont':
dispatch.c:1117: warning: 'SecurityLookupIDByType' is deprecated 
(declared at ..

make[2]: *** [dispatch.lo] Error 1


http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291312

Basically you will need to mask all the dependencies for 
xorg-server-1.7 to be able to compile 1.6.5.  I hit this a few days 
ago.  >= dependencies in ebuilds cause PITA for users...


HTH,
Roy
Thank you so much, the instructions at that link (plus a few hours of 
randomly installing and uninstalling packages) finally got things working!


However, I would also note that I use xfce4-settings, and therefore also 
had to mask ">=xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.6.3-r1", since it depends on 
libXi-1.3 or greater.


Again, thank you to everyone who helped me with this.

Marcus

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Mark Knecht]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Alan McKinnon  wrote:
> On Friday 13 November 2009 14:39:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:58:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> > Almost invariably it's an automagic dependency where the offending
>> > package is not in DEPEND. If you have been through the cycle at least
>> > once, it is safe to delete /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry and
>> > continue on your way.
>>
>> Won't that leave orphaned libraries hanging around since they aren't
>> removed until emerges complete successfully? I've seen this behaviour
>> before, where the list gets shorter each time and let it run its course.
>> It may take longer, but you know it's safe.
>>
>
> Interesting point. My tests before indicated that a full --depclean sorted
> everything out, but I can't be certain. @preserved-rebuild deletes orphans
> once it's complete, but it would be nice to verify what happens otherwise.
>
> Unfortunately, it's been a long time since any of my machines got stuck in
> this loop. I must have earned some good joss in recent months...
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>
If this problem is fundamentally due to dependencies not in DEPEND
then is there any evidence that it's big a problem? I.e. - there
aren't many packages that create the loop from what I've seen so far.

I've had this issue show up on all the machines I've updated this
week, but it was always (I think) the same packages that caused the
problems. As Neil suggested, at least on one machine the number of
offending packages did seem to go down, but it would never go to zero
as far as I can tell. (I did it 3 times on one box just to convince
myself but emerging 50 packages gets boring.) While I haven't bug
reported it I suspect someone will jump on this and a few days or
weeks from now it won't exist, at least for these packages.

Other than disk space what's the technical downside of some libraries
being stranded. Will this somehow leave applications pointing at old
library binaries?

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Julien Gormotte]

Jacques Montier  a écrit :


Julien Gormotte a gentiment tapote:



Ah, and of course, replace xclock by k3b...
I used xclock to test the -e option on my machine, because I don't have
k3b...
If you made the first attempt with xclock, please do it again (and I'm
pretty sure you have, considering the few results you had)

Julien Gormotte


This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.




If i run
$ strace -e desc k3b 2>&1 | grep '/usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/'
i get nothing.

If i run
$ strace -e desc k3b 2>&1 | grep 'No such file or directory'
i get :

open("/usr/local/lib/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkparts.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkparts.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkparts.so.4", O_RDONLY)=

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 14:39:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:58:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Almost invariably it's an automagic dependency where the offending
> > package is not in DEPEND. If you have been through the cycle at least
> > once, it is safe to delete /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry and
> > continue on your way.
> 
> Won't that leave orphaned libraries hanging around since they aren't
> removed until emerges complete successfully? I've seen this behaviour
> before, where the list gets shorter each time and let it run its course.
> It may take longer, but you know it's safe.
> 

Interesting point. My tests before indicated that a full --depclean sorted 
everything out, but I can't be certain. @preserved-rebuild deletes orphans 
once it's complete, but it would be nice to verify what happens otherwise.

Unfortunately, it's been a long time since any of my machines got stuck in 
this loop. I must have earned some good joss in recent months...
-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 14:49:02 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:25:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > My new! improved! shiny! Android phone has a Gmail app. It's nice to
> > use but it's quoting style is horrible and looks thusly:
> 
> Try K9-Mail, a proper POP/IMAP mailer that now supports push mail (the
> only reason I stuck with the GMail app for the past year).
> 


Good link, thanks  :-)

I downloaded it and so far it looks OK, but need to play more. First thing I 
need to figure out is how to make it refresh the inbox when, and only when, I 
click the button myself. I don't quite do this "beep at me every time there's 
a new email" thing - I already have several notebooks for that :-)


-- 

alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
> >> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> >>> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>  Hi everybody,
> 
>  Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
>  lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
>  They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
>  The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
>  doesn't find them.
> 
>  Any idea ?
> 
>  Thank you very much
> 
>  Best regards,
> 
>  --
>  Jacques
> >>>
> >>> check permissions?
> >>
> >> The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jacques
> >
> > and the directory?
> 
> drwxr-xr-x  6 rootroot   256 nov.   6 17:14 k3b
> 
> --
> Jacques
> 

and the direcories above?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 18:29:49 James wrote:
> Alan McKinnon  gmail.com> writes:
> > It's not an iPhone and Apple's psychosis doesn't enter the picture, I can
> > install any user-space app I feel like. The warranty is already invalid
> > though, for a different reason - I flashed it with an OS and firmware
> > that's far superior to the one my carrier thinks I should have
> 
> OH BOY,
> 
> My son wants a droid phone. I'm pushing him towards the HTC droid
> as I think we can customize it, if not eventually run embedded
> Gentoo on this phone.

Do you mean "droid" as a synonym for Android?

Motorola are soon releasing a phone called Droid, you might want to look at 
it. It will ship with Android 2.0, has a *huge* screen and overall very 
positive reviews.

HTC has the Dream (swing out screen with physical keyboard) also known as the 
G1; plus the Tattoo and Hero (also known as Magic) - these two are touch 
screen only

> I'd be most interested in the details of the exact model you purchased
> and what resources and howtos you are following, so I can customize
> this phone for him, aka linux style...

I got the G1 Dream as a physical keyboard is a must for me. Virtual keyboards 
are a nice extra but I just can't get to grips with only that.

Flashing it is quite easy. The kernel is very recent Linux with the Android 
user-space APIs as developed (mostly) by Google and a very light-weight Java 
VM for apps. Google supplies a full SDK free as in freedom plus free as in 
beer. Anyone familiar with embedded devices will feel right at home.

To flash it you need root privileges which is a trivial hack; carrier-provided 
phones usually have this disabled but this too has been hacked around. Then 
followed Google and HTC's own docs on the flash procedure :-)

Two sites provide everything you need:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Main_Page

HTC images available at http://developer.htc.com/adp.html

This page describes how to install Debian so gentoo will also be possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507291


> You are using Verizon as your cellular service? I'm stuck with Verizon
> for a variety of reasons

I'm in South Africa, where Verizon is something we used to have :-)

Business rules are different here so very little of the rules here will be 
applicable in the US

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Jacques Montier]

Julien Gormotte a gentiment tapote:

> 
> Ah, and of course, replace xclock by k3b...
> I used xclock to test the -e option on my machine, because I don't have
> k3b...
> If you made the first attempt with xclock, please do it again (and I'm
> pretty sure you have, considering the few results you had)
> 
> Julien Gormotte
> 
> 
> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> 
> 

If i run
$ strace -e desc k3b 2>&1 | grep '/usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/'
i get nothing.

If i run
$ strace -e desc k3b 2>&1 | grep 'No such file or directory'
i get :

open("/usr/local/lib/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/tls/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/tls/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/i686/libk3bdevice.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libk3b.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libkcddb.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libkfile.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("i686/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/local/pgplot/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libkio.so.5", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libkparts.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("tls/i686/libkparts.so.4", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("tls/libkparts.so.4", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENO

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Jacques Montier]

Paul Hartman a gentiment tapote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jacques Montier
>  wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
>> lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
>> They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
>> The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
>> doesn't find them.
>>
>> Any idea ?
> 
> Maybe you can try to change your k3b theme to something else and see
> if the problem persists.
> 
> 

Changing k3b theme doesn't change anything.

--
Jacques

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Julien Gormotte]

Julien Gormotte  a écrit :


Jacques Montier  a écrit :


Julien Gormotte a gentiment tapote:

A violent but maybe efficient way to do this would be :

strace -e desc xclock 2>&1 | grep 'No such file or directory'

This will show all files that k3b tries to access, but cannot find.

Volker Armin Hemmann  a écrit :


On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:

Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:

Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:

Hi everybody,

Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost

quite a

lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside

k3b.

They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems

that k3b

doesn't find them.

Any idea ?

Thank you very much

Best regards,

--
Jacques


check permissions?


The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.

--
Jacques


and the directory?


drwxr-xr-x  6 rootroot   256 nov.   6 17:14 k3b

--
Jacques



lloks good. You could check if k3b looks for the right names. But I
have no
idea at the moment where k3b stores the names it looks for.






Julien Gormotte


This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.





Well, i get this :


open("/usr/local/lib/tls/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/tls/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXaw.so.7", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXaw.so.7", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXmu.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXt.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libSM.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libICE.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXft.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXft.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXrender.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXrender.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libfreetype.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libz.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libz.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libxkbfile.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libxkbfile.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libxcb.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXau.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXdmcp.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Paul Hartman]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jacques Montier
 wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
> lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
> They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
> The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
> doesn't find them.
>
> Any idea ?

Maybe you can try to change your k3b theme to something else and see
if the problem persists.

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Julien Gormotte]

Jacques Montier  a écrit :


Julien Gormotte a gentiment tapote:

A violent but maybe efficient way to do this would be :

strace -e desc xclock 2>&1 | grep 'No such file or directory'

This will show all files that k3b tries to access, but cannot find.

Volker Armin Hemmann  a écrit :


On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:

Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
>>> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost
quite a
 lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside
k3b.
 They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
 The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems
that k3b
 doesn't find them.

 Any idea ?

 Thank you very much

 Best regards,

 --
 Jacques
>>>
>>> check permissions?
>>
>> The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.
>>
>> --
>> Jacques
>
> and the directory?

drwxr-xr-x  6 rootroot   256 nov.   6 17:14 k3b

--
Jacques



lloks good. You could check if k3b looks for the right names. But I
have no
idea at the moment where k3b stores the names it looks for.






Julien Gormotte


This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.





Well, i get this :


open("/usr/local/lib/tls/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/tls/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXaw.so.7", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXaw.so.7", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXmu.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXt.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libSM.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libICE.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXft.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXft.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXrender.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXrender.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libfreetype.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libz.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libz.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libxkbfile.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libxkbfile.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libxcb.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXau.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directo

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Jacques Montier]

Julien Gormotte a gentiment tapote:
> A violent but maybe efficient way to do this would be :
> 
> strace -e desc xclock 2>&1 | grep 'No such file or directory'
> 
> This will show all files that k3b tries to access, but cannot find.
> 
> Volker Armin Hemmann  a écrit :
> 
>> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>>> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
>>> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>>> >> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
>>> >>> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>>>  Hi everybody,
>>> 
>>>  Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost
>>> quite a
>>>  lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside
>>> k3b.
>>>  They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
>>>  The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems
>>> that k3b
>>>  doesn't find them.
>>> 
>>>  Any idea ?
>>> 
>>>  Thank you very much
>>> 
>>>  Best regards,
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>  Jacques
>>> >>>
>>> >>> check permissions?
>>> >>
>>> >> The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Jacques
>>> >
>>> > and the directory?
>>>
>>> drwxr-xr-x  6 rootroot   256 nov.   6 17:14 k3b
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>
>> lloks good. You could check if k3b looks for the right names. But I
>> have no
>> idea at the moment where k3b stores the names it looks for.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Julien Gormotte
> 
> 
> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Well, i get this :


open("/usr/local/lib/tls/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/tls/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/tls/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/i686/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXaw.so.7", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXaw.so.7", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXmu.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXt.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libSM.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libICE.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXft.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXft.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXrender.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libXrender.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libfreetype.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libz.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libz.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libxkbfile.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libxkbfile.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("/usr/share/jmf-bin/lib/libxcb.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open("

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Julien Gormotte]

A violent but maybe efficient way to do this would be :

strace -e desc xclock 2>&1 | grep 'No such file or directory'

This will show all files that k3b tries to access, but cannot find.

Volker Armin Hemmann  a écrit :


On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:

Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
>>> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
 lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
 They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
 The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
 doesn't find them.

 Any idea ?

 Thank you very much

 Best regards,

 --
 Jacques
>>>
>>> check permissions?
>>
>> The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.
>>
>> --
>> Jacques
>
> and the directory?

drwxr-xr-x  6 rootroot   256 nov.   6 17:14 k3b

--
Jacques



lloks good. You could check if k3b looks for the right names. But I have no
idea at the moment where k3b stores the names it looks for.






Julien Gormotte


This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
> >> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> >>> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>  Hi everybody,
> 
>  Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
>  lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
>  They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
>  The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
>  doesn't find them.
> 
>  Any idea ?
> 
>  Thank you very much
> 
>  Best regards,
> 
>  --
>  Jacques
> >>>
> >>> check permissions?
> >>
> >> The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jacques
> >
> > and the directory?
> 
> drwxr-xr-x  6 rootroot   256 nov.   6 17:14 k3b
> 
> --
> Jacques
> 

lloks good. You could check if k3b looks for the right names. But I have no 
idea at the moment where k3b stores the names it looks for. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Jacques Montier]

Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
>>> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
 lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
 They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
 The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
 doesn't find them.

 Any idea ?

 Thank you very much

 Best regards,

 --
 Jacques
>>> check permissions?
>> The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.
>>
>> --
>> Jacques
>>
> 
> and the directory?
> 
> 

drwxr-xr-x  6 rootroot   256 nov.   6 17:14 k3b

--
Jacques

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
> >> Hi everybody,
> >>
> >> Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
> >> lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
> >> They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
> >> The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
> >> doesn't find them.
> >>
> >> Any idea ?
> >>
> >> Thank you very much
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jacques
> >
> > check permissions?
> 
> The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.
> 
> --
> Jacques
> 

and the directory?

[gentoo-user] Re: Quoting style on HTC Dream

[James]

Alan McKinnon  gmail.com> writes:

> It's not an iPhone and Apple's psychosis doesn't enter the picture, I can 
> install any user-space app I feel like. The warranty is already invalid 
> though, for a different reason - I flashed it with an OS and firmware that's 
> far superior to the one my carrier thinks I should have 


OH BOY,

My son wants a droid phone. I'm pushing him towards the HTC droid
as I think we can customize it, if not eventually run embedded 
Gentoo on this phone.

I'd be most interested in the details of the exact model you purchased
and what resources and howtos you are following, so I can customize 
this phone for him, aka linux style...

You are using Verizon as your cellular service? I'm stuck with Verizon
for a variety of reasons

> > Also could they have picked a less masculine-sounding name (perhaps the
> > HTC Twilight)?

The one were looking at is call the HTC Eris, I believe
 


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Jacques Montier]

Volker Armin Hemmann a gentiment tapote:
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
>> lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
>> They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
>> The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
>> doesn't find them.
>>
>> Any idea ?
>>
>> Thank you very much
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Jacques
>>
> 
> check permissions?
> 
> 

The icons have 755 permissions and are owned by root.

--
Jacques

[gentoo-user] Mmplayer-1.0_rc4_p20091113 (standard or multi-thread/multi-core support)

[7v5w7go9ub0o]

(This is the "FFmpeg-mt branch" which incorporates the mplayer-supported
FFmpeg-mt, which speeds up the playback of 1080 H.264 files on
multi-core cpus.)

mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20091113.ebuild

115 new ffmpeg-mt commits since the last ebuild
and latest mplayer updates from SVN (revision 29906).

Thank You Nikos Chantziaras

Re: [gentoo-user] Block root user from login on xorg GUI

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mick  wrote:
> On Thursday 12 November 2009 21:34:24 Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Mick  wrote:
>> > I should know how to do this ...
>> >
>> > It isn't as simple as commenting out vc7 in /etc/securetty, right?  The
>> > persistent offenders would try to start another X session on a different
>> > vc.
>> >
>> > Is there a trick I could add in /etc/pam.d/login or one of the
>> > /etc/pam.d/gdm* files perhaps?
>>
>> How do you start X? Do you use xdm/kdm/gdm or do you just "startx" or
>> use some other method?
>
> This box is configured to start X with gdm and it does not have kdm installed.

>From what I've read, root logins are disabled by default in gdm.

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Jacques Montier wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
> lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
> They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
> The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
> doesn't find them.
> 
> Any idea ?
> 
> Thank you very much
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> --
> Jacques
> 

check permissions?

[gentoo-user] Missing icons in K3b

[Jacques Montier]

Hi everybody,

Since i upgraded k3b-1.05-r6 to k3b-1.68.0_alpha3, i have lost quite a
lot of icons (newcd project icon, newdvd project icon...) inside k3b.
They are replaced by a beautiful "?".
The k3b icons are in /usr/share/apps/k3b/icons/, but it seems that k3b
doesn't find them.

Any idea ?

Thank you very much

Best regards,

--
Jacques

[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Font recommendations for netbook?

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:27:47PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote

>   Speaking of Fluxbox, I have it installed.  I've experimented with some
> fonts.  I find that regardless of the fonts I install, xterm runs a
> tiny, almost unreadable font.  And what's worse, I *CANNOT* resize the
> font.  xterm totally ignores anything I set by hitting
> {CTRL}{RIGHT-CLICK} inside an xterm.  Any ideas?

  It was a case of "picky, picky, picky".  My desktop machine has a
gazillion fonts installed.  Not so the netbook.  When I try to set the
the xterm font, "cannot load font" error messages show up in the text
console from which it was launched.  Here are the fonts that it tries to
load, and the corresponding menu item...

 nil2 - Unreadable
 5x7  - Tiny
 6x10 - Small
 7x13 - Medium
 9x15 - Large
10x20 - Huge

  I don't happen to have those *EXACT* sizes installed on the netbook,
hence the error messages.  I find that if I launch xterm with the
command "xterm -fn -monotype" it comes up at a nice readable size.  With
the help of xfontsel, I can find what font families and sizes I do have
and launch xterm with those fonts.  A bit of RTFM turned up some info
about how to control the expected font for each of the menu entries via
resource files...

Default (fontdefault) - *VT100.font resource.
Unreadable (font1) - *VT100.font1 resource.
Tiny (font2) - *VT100.font2 resource.
Small (font3) - *VT100.font3 resource.
Medium (font4) - *VT100.font4 resource.
Large (font5) - *VT100.font5 resource.
Huge (font6) - *VT100.font6 resource.

  So it should be a one-time job to enter the proper values in a
resource file and xterm will be happy.

-- 
Walter Dnes 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> 
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> >
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > >>  [...]
> > > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow
> > > > >> the instructions.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no
> > > > > ebuilds
> > > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > > >
> > > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more
> > > > complicated than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of
> > > > applying the patch here:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > > >
> > > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > > overlay.
> > > >
> > > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load
> > > > on moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation.
> > > > It only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> > >
> > > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> > >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> > >
> > >
> > >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers
> > > and screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the
> > > fingers
> > >in
> > >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
> >
> > I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> > must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers.
> > Open
> > source driver work fine.
> >
> >
> >that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.
> 
> Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in
> other distrs linux.
> 

look at the patch and google a bit. There has been a lot of talk about this.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[igwasm]

- Original Message - 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.


On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
>
> написал:
> > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > >>  [...]
> > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > >> instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no 
> > > ebuilds

> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > patch here:
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> >
> > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > overlay.
> >
> > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
>
> Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
>  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
>
>
>as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
>screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the 
>fingers

>in
>their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.

I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. 
Open

source driver work fine.




that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.


Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in 
other distrs linux.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> 
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> >
> > написал:
> > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > >>  [...]
> > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > >> instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > > patch here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > >
> > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > overlay.
> > >
> > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> >
> > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> >
> >
> >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
> >screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers
> >in
> >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
> 
> I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open
> source driver work fine.
> 

that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[igwasm]

- Original Message - 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.


On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras

написал:
> On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >>  [...]
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
>
> Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> patch here:
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
>
> This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local 
> overlay.

>
> Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.

Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
 slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?




as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers 
in

their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.


I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t 
must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open 
source driver work fine.

Re: [gentoo-user] Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:36:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> The kernel is Linux so it's OSS and so are most of the APIs. License is
> GPL. The user-space apps are not necessarily GPL though (just like on
> the desktop) and I haven't seen the code for the GMail app

It must be available, K9-Mail uses at least some of it.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Blessed be the pessimist for he hath made backups.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:25:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> My new! improved! shiny! Android phone has a Gmail app. It's nice to
> use but it's quoting style is horrible and looks thusly:

Try K9-Mail, a proper POP/IMAP mailer that now supports push mail (the
only reason I stuck with the GMail app for the past year).


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Orcs aren't all that bad... if you have plenty of ketchup.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @ world -> @preserved-rebuild -> @preserved-rebuild -> what next?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:58:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> Almost invariably it's an automagic dependency where the offending
> package is not in DEPEND. If you have been through the cycle at least
> once, it is safe to delete /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry and
> continue on your way.


Won't that leave orphaned libraries hanging around since they aren't
removed until emerges complete successfully? I've seen this behaviour
before, where the list gets shorter each time and let it run its course.
It may take longer, but you know it's safe.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"It compiled? The first screen came up? Ship it!" -- Bill Gates


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >>  [...]
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> patch here:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> 
> This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> 
> Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 

indeed., except all xorg-server versions are covered in that thread ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> 
> написал:
> > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > >>  [...]
> > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > >> instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > patch here:
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> >
> > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> >
> > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 
> Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
>  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> 

as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and 
screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers in 
their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.

Re: [gentoo-user] _exists command not found [URGENT]

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 11:22:06 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a big upgrade on one of my machines (since September = > 750 packages)
> broke this machine unexpectedly
> It cannot start the network since in the script
> /etc/init.d/net.lo
> a command '_exists' is used but not found anymore.

It's not a command, it's the first parameter to a function in the script.

So, seeing as your initial assumption is wrong, what is the EXACT error 
message you get?

I'll bet it's interface xyz does not exist because you have not loaded the 
module for that hardwrae.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras 
написал:
> On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >>  [...]
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> patch here:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> 
> This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> 
> Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 
Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very slow 
in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?

[gentoo-user] _exists command not found [URGENT]

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

a big upgrade on one of my machines (since September = > 750 packages)
broke this machine unexpectedly
It cannot start the network since in the script 
/etc/init.d/net.lo 
a command '_exists' is used but not found anymore.

Does anybody what might be broken?

Many many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 10:15:43 Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 01:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > My new! improved! shiny! Android phone has a Gmail app. It's nice to use
> > but it's quoting style is horrible and looks thusly:
> 
> Isn't Android "supposed" to be Open Source?

The kernel is Linux so it's OSS and so are most of the APIs. License is GPL. 
The user-space apps are not necessarily GPL though (just like on the desktop) 
and I haven't seen the code for the GMail app


> What's to stop you from
> fixing the code yourself and recompiling, 

Apart from "I really can't be bothered so I'll download something else" 
nothing stops me :-)

> or does that somehow
> "invalidate" your phone?

It's not an iPhone and Apple's psychosis doesn't enter the picture, I can 
install any user-space app I feel like. The warranty is already invalid 
though, for a different reason - I flashed it with an OS and firmware that's 
far superior to the one my carrier thinks I should have :-)

> Also could they have picked a less masculine-sounding name (perhaps the
> HTC Twilight)?

The OS versions are cupcake, donut and eclair. Faced with that, HTC's names 
for the hardware seem somewhat irrelevant 

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 09:33:56 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> On Friday 13 November 2009 02:11:55 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> > > >
> > > > I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> > > >  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use
> > > > driver from amd.
> > >
> > > and you are using WHICH driver?
> > >
> > > if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.
> >
> > When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as
> > opensource driver.
> 
> You didn't answer his question.
> 
> Tip: There's big capital letters in it.
> 
> Another tip: If we wrote code the way you answered questions in this
>  thread, the code would never run. You have to answer questions with facts
>  around here if you want help.
> 
I use ATI Catalyst™ 9.10 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver.

Re: [gentoo-user] Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 08:43:39 Paul Hartman wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > My new! improved! shiny! Android phone has a Gmail app. It's nice to use
> > but it's quoting style is horrible and looks thusly:
> 
> Oh my :)
> 
> I've never used or even seen Android, but I googled and found this:
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1136
> 
> Maybe that's similar to what you're dealing with...
> 
> I've never seen a mobile phone with an email client on it that supported
> proper traditional quoting. They all either top post or don't even quote
> at all.

Looks like the use-case for mail on smart phones is twitter users wanting to 
type something longer than a twit. 

It all seems geared to having disconnected IM conversations over email, rather 
than actual email :-)

> So I'd say add a signature indicating you're writing from mobile and
> people can get over the fact that you've top-posted. :) Or try to find a
> third-party e-mail client that supports traditional quoting methods.
 
That's a plan.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Quoting style on HTC Dream

[Albert Hopkins]

On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 01:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> My new! improved! shiny! Android phone has a Gmail app. It's nice to use but 
> it's quoting style is horrible and looks thusly:
> 

Isn't Android "supposed" to be Open Source?  What's to stop you from
fixing the code yourself and recompiling, or does that somehow
"invalidate" your phone?

Also could they have picked a less masculine-sounding name (perhaps the
HTC Twilight)?

-a