[gentoo-user] Where to set XDG_DATA_HOME ?
Hi, I've got a message Note that '//usr/share' is not in the search path set by the XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variables, so applications may not be able to find it until you set them. The directories currently searched are: - /root/.local/share - /usr/share/gdm Since many icons are under /usr/share/icons this looks like a broken installation. What is the best place to set XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_DATA_DIRS system wide? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] Where to set XDG_DATA_HOME ?
On Friday 27 November 2009 10:54:55 Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I've got a message Note that '//usr/share' is not in the search path set by the XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variables, so applications may not be able to find it until you set them. The directories currently searched are: - /root/.local/share - /usr/share/gdm Since many icons are under /usr/share/icons this looks like a broken installation. What is the best place to set XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_DATA_DIRS system wide? /etc/env.d/* -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] OO thesaurus
2009/11/27 Kirill Lipatov kirilllipa...@gmail.com: got the same thing with english spell-checking. Can't get it to work What I find odd is that there is no English-UK dictionary available as an extension? http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/dictionary -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Moving root filesystem to a new partition
On Wednesday 25 November 2009 20:56:23 walt wrote: Okay, I just can't resist asking this nosy question: Why do you need to restore from backup often? I'm going through a transient at the moment, having more-or-less given up on trying to keep KDE-3 and not being ready for KDE-4 (or vice-versa). I've been trying a few other distros, and even Gnome (shows what a parlous state Gentoo's in; I couldn't imagine ever considering Gnome six months ago). So I've had cause several times to change my disk layout, and although it consumes time the easy way is to make a backup and then restore to the new layout. This is a toy box, after all. If I can't fiddle with it when I feel like it, what's the point of having it? :-) On the other hand, I suspect a hardware problem of causing k3b:4 to be unable to find the CD drives, the BIOS to report 2992MB RAM instead of 4096 and several BIOS settings to have been changed without my knowledge. That's driving me towards considering replacing the whole system. It's six years old now so it doesn't owe me anything. In the end I may revert to something like my original Gentoo layout and stay with it. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal
2009/11/26 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: grep kde /var/lib/portage/world only kde-meta in there emerge -a --depclean yep, just making sure as I thought there might be a very special syntax to remove all kde 3.5.* I used revdep-rebuild and emerge -uDNvp world to get the list of 3.5 packages, and then just deleted them one by one. Somehow there shlould be a cleaner way, as emerge -C kde-meta (when only kde-meta-3.5 was installed) did not work on all packages. Even when I manually remove the sub-meta groups of kde-3.5 I still had packages in the groups like games, I hand to manually remove. What a pain Hmm, I thought that kweather, kate and kfloppy were brought in by some meta or other. It seems that I'll have to install these on their own? kde-base/kweather selected: 4.3.1 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kate selected: 4.3.1 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kfloppy selected: 4.3.1 protected: none omitted: none -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] OO thesaurus
Apparently US, UK, Aus and some others are rolled into the standard en dictionary - which is available - its only the thesaurus I am having probs with. BillK On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:57 +, Mick wrote: 2009/11/27 Kirill Lipatov kirilllipa...@gmail.com: got the same thing with english spell-checking. Can't get it to work What I find odd is that there is no English-UK dictionary available as an extension? http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/dictionary -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: Hmm, I thought that kweather, kate and kfloppy were brought in by some meta or other. It seems that I'll have to install these on their own? Hello Mick, I'm just not certain any more exactly which packages belong to which meta(kde) package. I think they are added and dropped over the last few years, resulting in a dynamic grouping or like those you mentioned, not being picked up by and of the kde-meta packages. Some time ago kde-meta ( the package that calls other kde-meta(sub group packages) was to be done away with. Now, magically, kde-meta is back, after the Sets solution seems to be too cumbersome for those of us that want a simple and easy method to install a bulk of kde packages. Other than this '10,000' foot view, you'll have to get more precise information from the gentoo kde devs or others, as I just do not know.. You'd think there'd be a master listing of (kde-4) packages and which one belong to which meta-package or what not; if not a script to tool to reveal this information Let me know if you find a silver bullet (syntax) for discerning what kde packages are grouped into which meta package or not grouped at all.. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Tell us more... :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal
On Friday 27 November 2009 17:27:30 James wrote: Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: Hmm, I thought that kweather, kate and kfloppy were brought in by some meta or other. It seems that I'll have to install these on their own? Hello Mick, I'm just not certain any more exactly which packages belong to which meta(kde) package. I think they are added and dropped over the last few years, resulting in a dynamic grouping or like those you mentioned, not being picked up by and of the kde-meta packages. You fellows really need to read the full set of portage man pages. You sound like mechanics that don't know how spanners work. The contents of packages is determined by upstream (KDE), not by the gentoo devs. Gentoo devs merely split the monolithic tarballs up into whatever apps the KDE devs say is inside it To find out what is in a -meta package: cat $PORTDIR/kde-base/*-meta/*ebuild There isn't a special tool to do this, much as there isn't a tool to tell you what stuff DEPENDs on say apache. There is a general tool, it's equery depends -a Some time ago kde-meta ( the package that calls other kde-meta(sub group packages) was to be done away with. You are mistaken. That has never ever been the case. The monolithic ebuilds have been done away with in favour of split ebuilds. This has been in planning for 2 years right from the beginning of the KDE-3.5 series Now, magically, kde-meta is back, after the Sets solution seems to be too cumbersome for those of us that want a simple and easy method to install a bulk of kde packages. Citation please :-) Zac has never to my knowledge said that sets are too cumbersome for regular people. Sets are not yet in stable portage because he wants the feature to be tested more. Therefore sets cannot be exposed in the portage tree. That's why defined sets are only distributed in the overlays, not in the tree. Other than this '10,000' foot view, you'll have to get more precise information from the gentoo kde devs or others, as I just do not know.. To find out what depends on kate, kweather and kfloppy, use the correct portage tool: a...@nazgul ~ $ equery depends -a kate * Searching for kate ... kde-base/kdesdk-meta-4.3.1 (=kde-base/kate-4.3.1:4.3[kdeprefix=]) kde-base/kdesdk-meta-4.3.3 (!kdeprefix ? =kde-base/kate-4.3.3[-kdeprefix]) (kdeprefix ? =kde-base/kate-4.3.3:4.3[kdeprefix]) a...@nazgul ~ $ equery depends -a kweather * Searching for kweather ... kde-base/kdetoys-meta-4.3.1 (=kde-base/kweather-4.3.1:4.3[kdeprefix=]) kde-base/kdetoys-meta-4.3.3 (!kdeprefix ? =kde-base/kweather-4.3.3[- kdeprefix]) (kdeprefix ? =kde- base/kweather-4.3.3:4.3[kdeprefix]) a...@nazgul ~ $ equery depends -a kfloppy * Searching for kfloppy ... kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.3.1 (floppy ? =kde- base/kfloppy-4.3.1:4.3[kdeprefix=]) kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.3.3 (floppy !kdeprefix ? =kde-base/kfloppy-4.3.3[- kdeprefix]) (floppy kdeprefix ? =kde- base/kfloppy-4.3.3:4.3[kdeprefix]) So kate DEPENDS on kdesdk (it's a dev tool, emerge it individually if you just want the editor) kweather DEPENDS on kde-toys kfloppy DEPENDS on kdeutils iff USE=floppy You'd think there'd be a master listing of (kde-4) packages and which one belong to which meta-package or what not; if not a script to tool to reveal this information There is. See above. Let me know if you find a silver bullet (syntax) for discerning what kde packages are grouped into which meta package or not grouped at all.. This is Unix. We use grep, sed and awk to find stuff. Much faster than just about anything else... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] eth1 won't start
Hello all, I have a machine[1] into which I installed a second NIC. It is identified by lspci as: 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10) The driver, 8139too, is compiled as a module and loaded by udev. After booting, lsmod says: 8139too18304 0 I have net.eth1 symlinked to net.lo in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/conf.d/net is empty. When I try to start interface: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Starting eth1 * Configuration not set for eth1 - assuming DHCP * Bringing up eth1 * dhcp * network interface eth1 does not exist * Please verify hardware or kernel module (driver) I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, Roger Linux lowalbite 2.6.26-gentoo-r3 #6 Fri Nov 27 14:01:52 NST 2009 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Tell us more... :) Well, it seems like a good deal but I would like to hear from someone who uses it. Here is some links tho. https://lastpass.com/features.php https://lastpass.com/technology.php It seems like a really neat thing to have. Basically, no matter what computer I am on, this will store my passwords for me. If I have a system meltdown and lose my password info stored locally, I can get them back since they are stored on the lostpass server. According to the site, lostpass can not see or even access any password even if I ask for them too. I'm not sure if it would work with my bank or credit card site tho. Since they changed the way the login screen works, even the built-in password tool for Seamonkey doesn't fill them in anymore. It still works for forums, b.g.o, email and other things but not my bank and credit card. I think it uses java or something to get the login info. http://www.cadencebanking.com/ www.myaccountaccess.com Just curious what others think about this thing. They also have a paid option which is cheap I might add. $12.00 a year. I guess I could start with it saving everything BUT my bank and credit card passwords. Sort of stick my toes in the water first. Thoughts? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Friday 27 November 2009 22:17:15 Dale wrote: If I have a system meltdown and lose my password info stored locally, I can get them back since they are stored on the lostpass server. According to the site, lostpass can not see or even access any password even if I ask for them too. And if you believe that, I have a nice bridge for sale you might be interested in ... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: eth1 won't start
On 11/27/2009 10:34 AM, Roger Mason wrote: Hello all, I have a machine[1] into which I installed a second NIC. It is identified by lspci as: 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10) The driver, 8139too, is compiled as a module and loaded by udev. After booting, lsmod says: 8139too18304 0 I have net.eth1 symlinked to net.lo in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/conf.d/net is empty. When I try to start interface: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Starting eth1 * Configuration not set for eth1 - assuming DHCP * Bringing up eth1 * dhcp * network interface eth1 does not exist * Please verify hardware or kernel module (driver) May or may not help, but worth a try: delete the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot.
[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 26 November 2009 19:34:34 James wrote: kde-4.3.1 went smooth, except for I have to manually removed all the kde-3.5 packages. It had kde-meta-3.5.10. Is there some syntax or a better method to insure all the kde-3.5.x packages are removed, without a manual sweep? grep kde /var/lib/portage/world and eyeball the output. There should only be -meta packages, and individual packages for which you have NOT installed the -meta package, in there. vi the world file and remove the stuff that shouldn't be there, then emerge -C all-kde3.5-meta-packages-in-world emerge -a --depclean as alternative simply append to all kde-base/* packages in world :4.3 and do then a depclean ;-) - Jörg
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal
On Friday 27 November 2009 23:07:25 Jörg Schaible wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 26 November 2009 19:34:34 James wrote: kde-4.3.1 went smooth, except for I have to manually removed all the kde-3.5 packages. It had kde-meta-3.5.10. Is there some syntax or a better method to insure all the kde-3.5.x packages are removed, without a manual sweep? grep kde /var/lib/portage/world and eyeball the output. There should only be -meta packages, and individual packages for which you have NOT installed the -meta package, in there. vi the world file and remove the stuff that shouldn't be there, then emerge -C all-kde3.5-meta-packages-in-world emerge -a --depclean as alternative simply append to all kde-base/* packages in world :4.3 and do then a depclean ;-) Which promptly defeats the ENTIRE purpose of a world file and -meta packages. If that's how you want to admin your box, can I recommend you switch to sabayon instead? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Migrating RAID: Degraded RAID5 from RAID1?
Hello list, Currently I have two terabyte hard disks in a RAID1 configuration using software RAID. What I'd like to do is add a third disk and arrive at the end with a RAID5 array. The problem is I have limited disk space and not enough room to back up all of the data on the array in its current form. What I'd like to know is if it is possible to use two disks to make a degraded RAID5 array, move the data onto it from one of the mirror disks, and then add the mirrored disk into the new array? Thanks, D
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Friday 27 November 2009 22:17:15 Dale wrote: If I have a system meltdown and lose my password info stored locally, I can get them back since they are stored on the lostpass server. According to the site, lostpass can not see or even access any password even if I ask for them too. And if you believe that, I have a nice bridge for sale you might be interested in ... That is what is on the website. It's not me saying that. Thing is, there are people in the review section that have done this and they say it works well. I may try this but only none financial things at first. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Saturday 28 November 2009 00:43:48 Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Friday 27 November 2009 22:17:15 Dale wrote: If I have a system meltdown and lose my password info stored locally, I can get them back since they are stored on the lostpass server. According to the site, lostpass can not see or even access any password even if I ask for them too. And if you believe that, I have a nice bridge for sale you might be interested in ... That is what is on the website. It's not me saying that. Thing is, there are people in the review section that have done this and they say it works well. I may try this but only none financial things at first. Of course it works well - you INSERT a password into a database and SELECT it out later when you need it. I'd be surprised if it didn't work. What I find incredible is that people will accept the site's say-so that the site admins can't read the data. They have not proven anything, merely asserted something. The only way to do give that guarantee is to encrypt the data. Which then needs a key. Someone must keep the key and it's either you or them. If it's them, they can decrypt the data (same reason as DRM is doomed to failure) and if it's you - well if you lose the key you lose the data. Are you telling me that there are people gullible enough to actaully fall for that one? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal
On Friday 27 November 2009 15:53:41 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 27 November 2009 17:27:30 James wrote: Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: Hmm, I thought that kweather, kate and kfloppy were brought in by some meta or other. It seems that I'll have to install these on their own? Hello Mick, I'm just not certain any more exactly which packages belong to which meta(kde) package. I think they are added and dropped over the last few years, resulting in a dynamic grouping or like those you mentioned, not being picked up by and of the kde-meta packages. You fellows really need to read the full set of portage man pages. You sound like mechanics that don't know how spanners work. I'm sure there's a spanner thrown somewhere in the works ... The contents of packages is determined by upstream (KDE), not by the gentoo devs. Gentoo devs merely split the monolithic tarballs up into whatever apps the KDE devs say is inside it To find out what is in a -meta package: cat $PORTDIR/kde-base/*-meta/*ebuild There isn't a special tool to do this, much as there isn't a tool to tell you what stuff DEPENDs on say apache. There is a general tool, it's equery depends -a [snip ...] To find out what depends on kate, kweather and kfloppy, use the correct portage tool: a...@nazgul ~ $ equery depends -a kate * Searching for kate ... kde-base/kdesdk-meta-4.3.1 (=kde-base/kate-4.3.1:4.3[kdeprefix=]) kde-base/kdesdk-meta-4.3.3 (!kdeprefix ? =kde-base/kate-4.3.3[-kdeprefix]) (kdeprefix ? =kde-base/kate-4.3.3:4.3[kdeprefix]) OK, but I am getting this much - slightly different to yours above: # equery depends -a kate [ Searching for packages depending on kate... ] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.1 (=kde-base/kate-4.3.1:4.3[kdeprefix=]) kde-base/kdesdk-meta-4.3.1 (=kde-base/kate-4.3.1:4.3[kdeprefix=]) Now, fair enough, I do not have kde-base/kde-meta installed, so nothing wants to pull back in kate when I update world. Let me know if you find a silver bullet (syntax) for discerning what kde packages are grouped into which meta package or not grouped at all.. This is Unix. We use grep, sed and awk to find stuff. Much faster than just about anything else... Right, but only if your regex-fu is good enough. Mine is rather pathetic ... :-( Grateful for all help received to pick up the right spanner. ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Saturday 28 November 2009 00:43:48 Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Friday 27 November 2009 22:17:15 Dale wrote: If I have a system meltdown and lose my password info stored locally, I can get them back since they are stored on the lostpass server. According to the site, lostpass can not see or even access any password even if I ask for them too. And if you believe that, I have a nice bridge for sale you might be interested in ... That is what is on the website. It's not me saying that. Thing is, there are people in the review section that have done this and they say it works well. I may try this but only none financial things at first. Of course it works well - you INSERT a password into a database and SELECT it out later when you need it. I'd be surprised if it didn't work. What I find incredible is that people will accept the site's say-so that the site admins can't read the data. They have not proven anything, merely asserted something. The only way to do give that guarantee is to encrypt the data. Which then needs a key. Someone must keep the key and it's either you or them. If it's them, they can decrypt the data (same reason as DRM is doomed to failure) and if it's you - well if you lose the key you lose the data. Are you telling me that there are people gullible enough to actaully fall for that one? From what I understand, it is encrypted before you send the password. According to them, they only have info that is encrypted. I haven't visited them to make sure tho. According to the site, if you forget the master password, you're toast. It is not recoverable by the user or by them. It is also on the site somewhere that the Mozilla people have checked into SOME of the code. This is some of the reviews about it: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/reviews/display/8542 Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] what is overloaded my X server?
Alan McKinnon mentions yet another cool utility: xrestop is also useful Cool! Great tip! Again. Wonko
[gentoo-user] udev broken...
So, I have been running my laptop for quite a while with the current software - it's been well over a week since I last synced and installed software - when I upgraded to KDE4; and I do believe I've rebooted several times since. Today, I rebooted back into my old Win2k partition - to do some checking around to clean it up and prep for removal/conversion to a VM image since I've been using gentoo on the laptop for well over a year, and haven't touched the Win2k side for a long time. Having cleaned it up, I rebooted back to gentoo, only to be faced with cascading errors during reboot due to udevd not starting up and mapping the drives, etc. During boot, udevd (version 146, btw) complains about error getting signalfd. I did some basic hunting and this seems to have been a big problem over the last year. I'm running kernel 2.6.25, built on 9/27, from the gentoo source tree. The system then breaks while trying to do some drive mounts, and I end up in maintenance mode - with read-only partitions. Most seem to have resolved the issue by moving back to udev 141. I noticed that newer kernels are suppose to work with it, starting with the 2.6.25; so I _should_ have been okay. Needless to say, right now I'm stuck writing this e-mail from Win2k. The system seems to have the correct partition mounted for the root partition, but it doesn't report it as /dev/hdaX yet. However, I need access to the other partitions to get to portage. (Due to size of portage, and other complications, I've taken to putting it on another partition and mapping it. Usually this hasn't been a problem.) So I think I have a couple options: 1) Figure out how to mount the other partitions, and then revert to an older udev 2) Upgrade to a newer kernel - I do have sources for the 2.6.30 kernels. Either way, I need to figure out how to get read-access to the root partition again. Any advice on either of the above (or other options), and more importantly (since any options depend on it) how to get read-write access to the root partition again? TIA, Ben
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:57:54 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [about LastPass] What I find incredible is that people will accept the site's say-so that the site admins can't read the data. They have not proven anything, merely asserted something. The only way to do give that guarantee is to encrypt the data. Which then needs a key. Someone must keep the key and it's either you or them. If it's them, they can decrypt the data (same reason as DRM is doomed to failure) and if it's you - well if you lose the key you lose the data. Are you telling me that there are people gullible enough to actaully fall for that one? They claim that the decrypted data never leaves your computer and they they don't have a key to it. Many, many things aren't clear, such as what kind of encryption is used (same as the US gov't uses for Top Secret stuff, they say, heh), where and how the key is stored on your machine, on and on. I wouldn't dream of using them, but yeah, they have a substantial number of users. -- »Q« Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.
Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating RAID: Degraded RAID5 from RAID1?
let suppose sda and sdb is raid 1 md1 and new sdc remove sdb from raid mdadm /dev/md1 -f /dev/sdb mdadm /dev/md1 -r /dev/sdb then create degraded raid 5 don't forget md1 is still running mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level 5 -n 3 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc missing then copy all data from md1 to md2 fix /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.conf destroy md1 and add sda to md2 2009/11/28 Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com Hello list, Currently I have two terabyte hard disks in a RAID1 configuration using software RAID. What I'd like to do is add a third disk and arrive at the end with a RAID5 array. The problem is I have limited disk space and not enough room to back up all of the data on the array in its current form. What I'd like to know is if it is possible to use two disks to make a degraded RAID5 array, move the data onto it from one of the mirror disks, and then add the mirrored disk into the new array? Thanks, D -- Ларин Андрей тел 89093090949
