Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
On Thursday 29 July 2010 04:26:09 sam new wrote: > I use emerge -avuNDt world ,just find out that is > gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 is depend HAL Yes, hal is required for gnome-mount-0.8-r1, it is not optional You must either have hal or not have gnome-mount But what's the problem? hal can be installed, you don't have to USE it. > > On 28 July 2010 23:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I can't understand what you have typed. > > > > Please run emerge -avuNDt world and post the entire output here. > > > > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 15:34:23 sam new wrote: > > > I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is > > > > gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 > > > > > ,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the > > > package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount > > > depends hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do? > > > > > > On 28 July 2010 13:01, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 04:44:23 sam new wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > >As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or > > > > >any > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE="-hal" in > > > > > /etc/make.conf ,and recompile the packages, and also modify > > > > > /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD="no" ,exec rc-update del hal default > > > > > .All things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world > > > > > ,in the list still has a hal package, I don't know why system > > > > > sitll > > > > emerge > > > > > > > hal? maybe dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and check packages > > > > > which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any Suggestions? > > > > > > > > emerge -avuNDt world > > > > > > > > > > > > to get a tree view of dependencies. That will should just what is > > > > causing > > > > > > hal > > > > to be pulled in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > > > -- > > > > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] timed out rsync error:
Valmor de Almeida wrote: Dale wrote: Valmor de Almeida wrote: Mick wrote: On 26 July 2010 17:24, Valmor de Almeida wrote: I am still running into the same problem since a couple of days ago. I tried both SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" Is anyone having issues with syncing the portage tree? -> emerge --sync Starting rsync with rsync://88.198.83.250/gentoo-portage... Checking server timestamp ... timed out rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(544) [receiver=3.0.6] Retrying... [snip ...] Alejandro Pino Oreamuno wrote: same problem here with 134.68.240.59 , 88.198.83.249 , 88.198.83.250 , 140.211.166.189 For a couple of weeks I was having problems with rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage and changed it to rsync://rsync.uk.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage - you may want to change it to the mirror which is nearest to you (and works). Either try mirrorselect -i -r -o>> /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf to automatically find a suitable rsync server, have a look here for your nearest rsync server and set it up manually: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors-rsync.xml I tried many of those rsync servers in the gentoo web site. No luck. Maybe my system is broken. I even tried the uk rsync. Don't know where to go from here... Thanks, -- Valmor I just synced to this server. It worked fine. You may want to try it. If it doesn't work, then you know something is wrong on your end, if it does, then there is something weird going on. From my make.conf: SYNC="rsync://rsync21.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" By the way, they don't limit the number of syncs you can do each day either. Dale :-) :-) Thanks for the info. It just worked; weird. -- Valmor Could be a problem between you and the other servers or something. Who knows. Weird things happen. Just glad that worked and you at least can sync now. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] panic:: octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: [...] failed
pk wrote: [snip] > Hi, > > I tested your code (and variations of it) and I get the same result > as you. Googling seems to indicate that lots of other people are having > similar problems with imwrite/imread function. The functions are not > part of the octave package but is an add-on. However, from what I can > see it may be a problem in the way octave make the graphicsmagick > write-call (of course there may be a problem with graphicksmagick itself > as well). Don't know enough to be of more help... Sorry! > > Best regards > > Peter K > Thanks for the feedback. I posted the same question on the octave users list but no answers. Regards, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] timed out rsync error:
Dale wrote: > Valmor de Almeida wrote: >> Mick wrote: >> >>> On 26 July 2010 17:24, Valmor de Almeida wrote: >>> I am still running into the same problem since a couple of days ago. I tried both SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" Is anyone having issues with syncing the portage tree? >>> -> emerge --sync >>> Starting rsync with rsync://88.198.83.250/gentoo-portage... >>> Checking server timestamp ... >>> timed out rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(544) [receiver=3.0.6] >>> Retrying... >>> >>> [snip ...] >>> >>> Alejandro Pino Oreamuno wrote: > same problem here with 134.68.240.59 , 88.198.83.249 , 88.198.83.250 , > 140.211.166.189 > >>> For a couple of weeks I was having problems with >>> rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage and changed it to >>> rsync://rsync.uk.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage - you may want to change it >>> to the mirror which is nearest to you (and works). Either try >>> mirrorselect -i -r -o>> /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf to automatically >>> find a suitable rsync server, have a look here for your nearest rsync >>> server and set it up manually: >>> >>> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors-rsync.xml >>> >> I tried many of those rsync servers in the gentoo web site. No luck. >> Maybe my system is broken. I even tried the uk rsync. Don't know where >> to go from here... >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> -- >> Valmor >> > > I just synced to this server. It worked fine. You may want to try it. > If it doesn't work, then you know something is wrong on your end, if it > does, then there is something weird going on. From my make.conf: > > SYNC="rsync://rsync21.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" > > By the way, they don't limit the number of syncs you can do each day > either. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Thanks for the info. It just worked; weird. -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
I use emerge -avuNDt world ,just find out that is gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 is depend HAL On 28 July 2010 23:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I can't understand what you have typed. > > Please run emerge -avuNDt world and post the entire output here. > > > > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 15:34:23 sam new wrote: > > I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is > gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 > > ,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the > > package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount > > depends hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do? > > > > On 28 July 2010 13:01, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 04:44:23 sam new wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > >As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any > > > > > > other > > > > > > > devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE="-hal" in > > > > /etc/make.conf ,and recompile the packages, and also modify > > > > /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD="no" ,exec rc-update del hal default > > > > .All things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world ,in > > > > the list still has a hal package, I don't know why system sitll > emerge > > > > hal? maybe dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and check packages > > > > which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any Suggestions? > > > > > > emerge -avuNDt world > > > > > > > > > to get a tree view of dependencies. That will should just what is > causing > > > hal > > > to be pulled in > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > -- > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
"They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting working",in Xorg 1.8, udev will replace HAL . we can use devicekit-disks package to mount USB stick or CD,USE polkit-gnome or ntfs3g to mount NTFS filesystem. so HAL is not needed.may be modify gnome-mount ebuild ,remove HAL depedency and put it in local OVERLAY .maybe slove the problem. On 29 July 2010 02:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna >>> eat your cat. >>> >> >> Although it may kill your crew. >> > > I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that > they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting > working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you > disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. > > >
[gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
Just after posting this, I realized that KDE 4.4 uses policykit, but 4.5 uses the new polkit. I guess that's why I never needed to mess with any configuration files. On 07/29/2010 03:38 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Btw, I think now the package is "polkit", not "policykit"; I think the first replaced the second. If you enable the "policykit" USE flag for kdelibs and consolekit, only sys-auth/polkit gets installed, not sys-auth/policykit. However, if you enable that USE flag globally in make.conf, then I think both get installed because some package probably depend on the older package. Anyway, I don't have a "policykit.conf". Or if I have one, I don't know where it is and I never edited it. And yet everything seems to be working just fine here. On 07/29/2010 03:31 AM, Andrey Vul wrote: Ugh. Now i'll actually have to config policykit.conf. For some reason, match group=wheel return yes fails so much. Somehow the mount-ro defaults to no every time On 2010-07-28, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna eat your cat. Although it may kill your crew. I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. But I kept HAL because it's very useful. If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24
[gentoo-user] Facilities for creating Gentoo Linux based virtual appliances
Hello, For a while I have been assembling methods for myself to be able to easily create Gentoo-based virtual appliances. I have worked with Ubuntu's vmbuilder scripts and basically wanted the same or similar ease of use with Linux. To make a long story short, I threw together a Makefile which basically gives me this ability. I have it at a state where it's pretty much useful to me for my purposes. But I thought someone else may find use for it as well, so I put it up on Bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/marduk/virtual-appliance The Makefile pretty much does an install into a chroot, pretty much by the handbook, with a few alterations where I saw fit. It hast some variables and a couple of hooks to allow for customization. I've already created a few appliances (included) such as: base: A base install of Gentoo Linux gnome: GNOME stable appliance (no GUI console) kde: KDE stable appliance (no GUI console) lodgeit: Lodgeit pastebin appliance[1] teamplayer: TeamPlayer appliance The "no GUI console" means that by default these appliances don't have an X console. I usually log into them via XDMCP or ssh. So they can be thought of as "headless" desktop virtual appliances. The "base" appliance is pretty much the handbook, with dhcpd and a syslog and nothing else. TeamPlayer is a "democratic Internet radio station" web app that I have been developing. To date I have not distributed it, though eventually plan to. You can contact me directly if interested. Right now there is no documentation or copyright or anything. It's pretty much just the code. Like I said this has been primarily for my personal use so there is nothing fancy like packaging or anything, but it works. Some things can probably be done better. I'm no expert at writing Makefiles. So the way you basically use it is like this: $ sudo make APPLIANCE=gnome VIRTIO=YES qcow This will create a gnome virtual appliance image configured for virtio and supply a qcow (qcow2) disk image. You can also just "sudo make" for which the default is to create a "base" appliance not configured with VIRTIO and only supply an image file in raw format. There are other make variables that can be supplied. Check out the Makefile. You can "easily" create your own VM appliaces by just mkdir . Copy the files from base/* into it and edit them as needed. The supplied appliances should be good references. One warning: the Makefile must be run as root, and does things inside a chroot. I have been careful to make sure everything is done in the chroot that needs to be. It is possible for you (or me) to forget to put chroot before a command and cause irreversible damage to your host system. Just giving you this caveat.I'm sure the appliances I provided are safe, but I can't guarantee it and if you make your own appliance just be careful. Ideally one would build VM appliances inside a VM appliance itself :) Well, I probably left some stuff out. Feel free to reply (to this thread I guess) if you have any questions. Oh, when you are finished building your disk image just $ sudo make clean Which will unmount things and remove the temporary files. A FEW MORE IMPORTANT THINGS: In the Makefile, I have PORTAGE=/portage and DISTFILES=/var/portage/distfiles. These are my setup and are not the defaults. You will need to change these values appropriately. Also, you may need to edit the USEPKG variable. I have the Makefile use my binary packages to speed up the creation process (allows me to build a base appliance in about 12 minutes). You may not want this, especially if you have your CFLAGS tuned to a specific processor that your hypervisor does not support. But I use generic CFLAGS so I have no problem using binpkgs. Oh, I use kvm/virt-manager and use virtio for disks and network devices. I tried to configure the VM kernel so that it will support other formats. I am curious as to whether or not the appliances will work with VMWare as I have not actually tried it, but you should be able to create a VM image with $ sudo make vmdk I'm probably leaving something out. You should take a look at the Makefile first if you are going to use it. It shouldn't be that foreign (it's basically handbook stuff but tailored for the use case). Anyway it's out there for you to reference. -a [1] http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/lodgeit/
[gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
Btw, I think now the package is "polkit", not "policykit"; I think the first replaced the second. If you enable the "policykit" USE flag for kdelibs and consolekit, only sys-auth/polkit gets installed, not sys-auth/policykit. However, if you enable that USE flag globally in make.conf, then I think both get installed because some package probably depend on the older package. Anyway, I don't have a "policykit.conf". Or if I have one, I don't know where it is and I never edited it. And yet everything seems to be working just fine here. On 07/29/2010 03:31 AM, Andrey Vul wrote: Ugh. Now i'll actually have to config policykit.conf. For some reason, match group=wheel return yes fails so much. Somehow the mount-ro defaults to no every time On 2010-07-28, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna eat your cat. Although it may kill your crew. I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. But I kept HAL because it's very useful. If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
Ugh. Now i'll actually have to config policykit.conf. For some reason, match group=wheel return yes fails so much. Somehow the mount-ro defaults to no every time On 2010-07-28, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna > eat your cat. Although it may kill your crew. >>> >>> I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think >>> that >>> they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB >>> hotplugging/automounting >>> working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if >>> you >>> disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. >>> >>> >> >> E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. >> >> I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. >> But I kept HAL because it's very useful. > > If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since > with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really > optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24 > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Andrey Vul begin-base64 600 sig bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3Jv bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K ` end
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
Ugh. Now i'll actually have to config policykit.conf. For some reason, match group=wheel return yes fails so much. Somehow the mount-ro defaults to no every time On 2010-07-28, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna > eat your cat. Although it may kill your crew. >>> >>> I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think >>> that >>> they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB >>> hotplugging/automounting >>> working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if >>> you >>> disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. >>> >>> >> >> E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. >> >> I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. >> But I kept HAL because it's very useful. > > If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since > with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really > optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24 > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Andrey Vul begin-base64 600 sig bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3Jv bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K ` end
[gentoo-user] Re: dir is rwx but can't create file
If / was mounted ro, touch would output strerror(EROFS), not strerror(ENOENT) On 2010-07-28, Bill Longman wrote: > On 07/28/2010 01:52 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Wednesday 28 July 2010 22:20:17 Andrey Vul wrote: >>> Creating files in /tmp, /etc, /lib32, and /var return ENOENT (touch >>> /tmp/foo => strerror(ENOENT)). >>> However, this is done as root and the dirs are marked 755 root:root. >>> df -i shows only 2% inode usage. >>> Any explanation as to why a rwx-ed dir can't be written to? This is >>> breaking quite a few of the init scripts. >>> >>> -- >>> Andrey Vul >>> begin-base64 600 sig >>> bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3J >>> v bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K >>> ` >>> end >> >> sounds like / is mounted read-only > > Do read-only filesystems typically reply ENOENT when trying to create a > file? It's usually something like "read-only filesystem" in that case. > ENOENT means it can't even find the file. > > -- Sent from my mobile device Andrey Vul begin-base64 600 sig bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3Jv bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K ` end
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: Update of mozilla products (firefox, thunderbird, seamonkey) gone "bad"...
If anyone else encounters this, I've found a solution to my problems: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst#Catalyst_10.6.2F10.7_:_black.2Fgrey.2Fwhite_boxes.2Fartifacts_in_firefox.2Fthunderbird http://phoronix.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-24323.html Apparently it's the new 2D acceleration scheme that's buggy... Best regards Peter K
[gentoo-user] hdparm, CONFIG_ATA_SFF and KDE-4.4.4
The title may not make immediately sense, but this is what I have observed. I switched to CONFIG_ATA_SFF instead of the deprecated CONFIG_IDE. Up until that point I had passed -M 128 to hdparm once and my drive retained the settings between reboots and kept quiet. With the new kernel I noticed that KDE-4.4.4 switches it back to -M 254 and becomes noisy as KDE kicks in (when the system settings symbol comes up during login). I tried adding hdparm in the default runlevel and also added: sda_arg="-M 128" in /etc/conf.d/hdparm but it doesn't seem to work. KDE resets it to full pelt. Is there a fix to this? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] dir is rwx but can't create file
On 07/28/2010 01:52 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 22:20:17 Andrey Vul wrote: >> Creating files in /tmp, /etc, /lib32, and /var return ENOENT (touch >> /tmp/foo => strerror(ENOENT)). >> However, this is done as root and the dirs are marked 755 root:root. >> df -i shows only 2% inode usage. >> Any explanation as to why a rwx-ed dir can't be written to? This is >> breaking quite a few of the init scripts. >> >> -- >> Andrey Vul >> begin-base64 600 sig >> bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3J >> v bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K >> ` >> end > > sounds like / is mounted read-only Do read-only filesystems typically reply ENOENT when trying to create a file? It's usually something like "read-only filesystem" in that case. ENOENT means it can't even find the file.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 23:08:45 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna > eat your cat. > >>> > >>> Although it may kill your crew. > >> > >> I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think > >> that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB > >> hotplugging/automounting working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL > >> for this, not X. And if you disable HAL completely, that stuff will > >> stop working. > > > > E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. > > > > I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. > > But I kept HAL because it's very useful. > > If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since > with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really > optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24 Something tells me the kde.org admins didn't *really* intend to show me all this info: Software error: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Unknown table engine 'InnoDB' [for Statement "SELECT bug_id FROM bugs WHERE bug_id = ?"] at Bugzilla/Bug.pm line 3366 Bugzilla::Bug::ValidateBugID(24) called at /home/bugzilla/public_html/show_bug.cgi line 62 For help, please send mail to the webmaster (sysad...@kde.org), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. tut, tut, kde.org. Big fail. Need to learn how to trap errors properly. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna eat your cat. Although it may kill your crew. I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. But I kept HAL because it's very useful. If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24
Re: [gentoo-user] dir is rwx but can't create file
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 22:20:17 Andrey Vul wrote: > Creating files in /tmp, /etc, /lib32, and /var return ENOENT (touch > /tmp/foo => strerror(ENOENT)). > However, this is done as root and the dirs are marked 755 root:root. > df -i shows only 2% inode usage. > Any explanation as to why a rwx-ed dir can't be written to? This is > breaking quite a few of the init scripts. > > -- > Andrey Vul > begin-base64 600 sig > bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3J > v bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K > ` > end sounds like / is mounted read-only -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >>> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna >>> eat your cat. >> >> Although it may kill your crew. > > I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that > they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting > working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you > disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. > > E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. But I kept HAL because it's very useful.
[gentoo-user] dir is rwx but can't create file
Creating files in /tmp, /etc, /lib32, and /var return ENOENT (touch /tmp/foo => strerror(ENOENT)). However, this is done as root and the dirs are marked 755 root:root. df -i shows only 2% inode usage. Any explanation as to why a rwx-ed dir can't be written to? This is breaking quite a few of the init scripts. -- Andrey Vul begin-base64 600 sig bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3Jv bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K ` end
Re: [gentoo-user] panic:: octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: [...] failed
On 2010-07-26 18:16, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > -> ./test.m > octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: LockSemaphoreInfo: Assertion > `semaphore_info != (SemaphoreInfo *) ((void *)0)' failed. > panic: Aborted -- stopping myself... > attempting to save variables to `octave-core'... > save to `octave-core' complete > Aborted Hi, I tested your code (and variations of it) and I get the same result as you. Googling seems to indicate that lots of other people are having similar problems with imwrite/imread function. The functions are not part of the octave package but is an add-on. However, from what I can see it may be a problem in the way octave make the graphicsmagick write-call (of course there may be a problem with graphicksmagick itself as well). Don't know enough to be of more help... Sorry! Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 07/28/2010 11:54 AM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 17:35:44 KH wrote: >> Am 28.07.2010 17:30, schrieb Bill Longman: >>> On 07/28/2010 08:18 AM, KH wrote: Hi Mick, but typing ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* should show up something. Shouldn't it? df -h shows /dev/hda3 is mounted on / For me this is strange. >>> >>> How is /dev mounted right now? What does "udevadm --version" tell you? >> >> udev is 151 and baselayout is 1.12.13 > > Yes this is indeed strange ... short of having some strange access rights or > umask in your fstab ... is it the same when you ls as root user? Are there any red flags in dmesg?
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 17:35:44 KH wrote: > Am 28.07.2010 17:30, schrieb Bill Longman: > > On 07/28/2010 08:18 AM, KH wrote: > >> Hi Mick, > >> > >> but typing ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* should show up something. > >> Shouldn't it? df -h shows /dev/hda3 is mounted on / > >> For me this is strange. > > > > How is /dev mounted right now? What does "udevadm --version" tell you? > > udev is 151 and baselayout is 1.12.13 Yes this is indeed strange ... short of having some strange access rights or umask in your fstab ... is it the same when you ls as root user? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna eat your cat. Although it may kill your crew. I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working.
[gentoo-user] Seamonkey 2.0.5 crashes on print
Hello, Seamonkey 1.18 worked and printed just fine to my HP HP_Officejet_Pro_8500_A909g HP Officejet Pro 8500 . Now recently cups, hplip and many packages where updated. I can print using 'lp' commands from the command line to this printer. The printer test page, via 631:localhost print is fine. On seamonkey under these 3 buttons instantly crash seamonkey: equery depgraph --depth=1 cups yields a very long list of candidate software to maybe rebuild? emerge -Dp $(qlist -I -C cups) yeilds a very short list (upon rebuilding does not fix problem): [ebuild R ] net-print/cups-1.4.4 [ebuild R ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.3 What shall I use to determine what next to rebuild? On the cups maybe broken side? On the 'seamonkey' may need a rebuilt dependency? Suggestions on flushing out a logical coarse of action/repair is most welcome.. http://631:localhost/admin all looks fine. James ... When all else fails, blame Python, that's why it's SLOTTED! ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 07/28/2010 09:37 AM, KH wrote: > Am 28.07.2010 17:27, schrieb Bill Longman: >> On 07/28/2010 07:56 AM, KH wrote: >>> Am 28.07.2010 15:45, schrieb Bill Longman: Konstantin, please post what your kernel has for IDE support. If you have /proc/config.gz, then please post the results from "zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz" so we can get an idea of why you have no /dev/hd* devices. We will also need to know what kind of disk controller your server really has. Are they IDE or SATA controllers? >>> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> Now I am running 2.6.30-r8 but 2.6.34-r1 is ready but not jet copied to >>> /boot. btw it is a p3 coppermine. >>> >>> This is the output from zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz . >>> >>> >>> CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y >>> CONFIG_IDE=y >>> # Please see Documentation/ide/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives >>> CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y >>> CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y >>> CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y >>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set >>> CONFIG_IDE_GD=y >>> CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y >>> CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATAPI=y >>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y >>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y >>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set >>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEACPI=y >>> # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set >>> CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y >>> # IDE chipset support/bugfixes >>> CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y >>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPNP is not set >>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_SFF=y >>> # PCI IDE chipsets support >>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y >>> CONFIG_IDEPCI_PCIBUS_ORDER=y >>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y >>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y >>> # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set >>> # CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA is not set >>> # CONFIG_VIDEO_OUTPUT_CONTROL is not set >>> # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set >>> # CONFIG_PROVIDE_OHCI1394_DMA_INIT is not set >> >> I would expect to see: >> >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y >> >> in your configuration given that it's a Coppermine. You might want to >> add that in the 2.6.30 and the 2.6.34 kernels, although DEV_GENERIC >> should give you what you need, as you are probably using that right now. >> >> Use "make menuconfig" to configure the kernel. Make sure it's "<*>" not >> "" for the PIIX controller and then rebuild and install the kernel. >> >> Do you have "lspci" installed? The results from "lspci -v" would be very >> helpful right now. >> >>> I just tried /etc/init.de/udev resart . I am getting errors not to use >>> the script with baselayout-1 . The box is very slow now. Will reboot and >>> see what baselayout is on it. >> >> Yeah, don't worry about this right now. >> > > lspci: > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and > Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > Memory at f800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] > Capabilities: [88] Vendor Specific Information > Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0 > Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel > > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev > 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) > Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 64 > Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 > Memory behind bridge: ee00-efef > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: eff0-f7ff > > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if > 00 [Normal decode]) > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32 > I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff > Memory behind bridge: ed80-edff > > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 > > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller > (rev 02) (prog-if 80 [Master]) > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 > [virtual] Memory at 01f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] > [virtual] Memory at 03f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] > [virtual] Memory at 0170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] > [virtual] Memory at 0370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] > I/O ports at b800 [size=16] > Kernel driver in use: PIIX_IDE > > 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 > (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 12 > I/O ports at b400 [size=32] > Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd > > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 02) > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 > I/O ports at e800 [size=16] > > 00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 > (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Comput
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna > eat your cat. Although it may kill your crew. -- Neil Bothwick I'm not closed minded, you're just wrong. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: USB SDHC Card Reader works, but only if mounted first in WinXP virtual machine
Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > > Hi, > > I have a USB SDHC card reader OOPs, I forgot a really important link: http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdcard/ Look in the simplified specification first. hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: USB SDHC Card Reader works, but only if mounted first in WinXP virtual machine
Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > I have a USB SDHC card reader whose partition table is not read, and > device node not created, when plugged into my Gentoo Linux computer. Here's a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital Also there is mini-SD and micro-SD: http://www.diffen.com/difference/SD_Card_vs_SDHC To make things really interesting, there are several "file systems" to choose from, relatively new to the kernel, specifically for these sorts of devices. So grab an embedded board and drop on over to the embedded gentoo list, where the real fun begins.. The hacks that are really knowlegable on these puppies, (solar, vapier, etc etc) hang out on gentoo embedded. hth, James Also
[gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
On 07/28/2010 05:44 AM, sam new wrote: Hi All, As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any other devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE="-hal" in /etc/make.conf ,and recompile the packages, and also modify /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD="no" ,exec rc-update del hal default .All things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world ,in the list still has a hal package, I don't know why system sitll emerge hal? maybe dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and check packages which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any Suggestions? You can not remove HAL if something needs it. And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna eat your cat.
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
On Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010, sam new wrote: > I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 > ,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the > package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount > depends hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do? you can't if you want to use gnome-mount and other gnome stuff.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 17:27, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 07:56 AM, KH wrote: >> Am 28.07.2010 15:45, schrieb Bill Longman: >>> >>> Konstantin, please post what your kernel has for IDE support. If you >>> have /proc/config.gz, then please post the results from "zgrep IDE >>> /proc/config.gz" so we can get an idea of why you have no /dev/hd* >>> devices. We will also need to know what kind of disk controller your >>> server really has. Are they IDE or SATA controllers? >>> >> >> Hi Bill, >> >> Now I am running 2.6.30-r8 but 2.6.34-r1 is ready but not jet copied to >> /boot. btw it is a p3 coppermine. >> >> This is the output from zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz . >> >> >> CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y >> CONFIG_IDE=y >> # Please see Documentation/ide/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives >> CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y >> CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y >> CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y >> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set >> CONFIG_IDE_GD=y >> CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y >> CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATAPI=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y >> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEACPI=y >> # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set >> CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y >> # IDE chipset support/bugfixes >> CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y >> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPNP is not set >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_SFF=y >> # PCI IDE chipsets support >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y >> CONFIG_IDEPCI_PCIBUS_ORDER=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y >> # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set >> # CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA is not set >> # CONFIG_VIDEO_OUTPUT_CONTROL is not set >> # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set >> # CONFIG_PROVIDE_OHCI1394_DMA_INIT is not set > > I would expect to see: > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y > > in your configuration given that it's a Coppermine. You might want to > add that in the 2.6.30 and the 2.6.34 kernels, although DEV_GENERIC > should give you what you need, as you are probably using that right now. > > Use "make menuconfig" to configure the kernel. Make sure it's "<*>" not > "" for the PIIX controller and then rebuild and install the kernel. > > Do you have "lspci" installed? The results from "lspci -v" would be very > helpful right now. > >> I just tried /etc/init.de/udev resart . I am getting errors not to use >> the script with baselayout-1 . The box is very slow now. Will reboot and >> see what baselayout is on it. > > Yeah, don't worry about this right now. > lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at f800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] Capabilities: [88] Vendor Specific Information Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0 Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 64 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ee00-efef Prefetchable memory behind bridge: eff0-f7ff 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff Memory behind bridge: ed80-edff 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 [virtual] Memory at 01f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 03f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] [virtual] Memory at 0170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 0370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] I/O ports at b800 [size=16] Kernel driver in use: PIIX_IDE 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 12 I/O ports at b400 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 I/O ports at e800 [size=16] 00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 6 I/O ports at b000 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corp
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 17:30, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 08:18 AM, KH wrote: >> >> Hi Mick, >> >> but typing ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* should show up something. >> Shouldn't it? df -h shows /dev/hda3 is mounted on / >> For me this is strange. > > How is /dev mounted right now? What does "udevadm --version" tell you? > udev is 151 and baselayout is 1.12.13 Regards FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 15G 8.2G 5.8G 59% / udev 10M 36K 10M 1% /dev tmpfs 2.5G 0 2.5G 0% /var/tmp/portage shm 187M 0 187M 0% /dev/shm
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 07/28/2010 08:18 AM, KH wrote: > Am 28.07.2010 16:04, schrieb Mick: >> On 28 July 2010 14:53, Bill Longman wrote: >>> On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: > I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not > change anything. > Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc > boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running > mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no > /dev/sd* > > Any ideas? KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. >>> >>> But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good >>> until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices >>> back. >> >> I am not sure that he does not have those devices ... I don't know if >> the error message is returned from grub or from the OS. >> >> It could be that the kernel stanza is wrongly pointing to /dev/hda, >> and, or fstab is not correct. > > Hi Mick, > > but typing ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* should show up something. > Shouldn't it? df -h shows /dev/hda3 is mounted on / > For me this is strange. How is /dev mounted right now? What does "udevadm --version" tell you?
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 07/28/2010 07:56 AM, KH wrote: > Am 28.07.2010 15:45, schrieb Bill Longman: >> On 07/28/2010 01:50 AM, KH wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >>> change anything. >>> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >>> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >>> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >>> /dev/sd* >>> >>> Any ideas? >> >> Konstantin, please post what your kernel has for IDE support. If you >> have /proc/config.gz, then please post the results from "zgrep IDE >> /proc/config.gz" so we can get an idea of why you have no /dev/hd* >> devices. We will also need to know what kind of disk controller your >> server really has. Are they IDE or SATA controllers? >> > > Hi Bill, > > Now I am running 2.6.30-r8 but 2.6.34-r1 is ready but not jet copied to > /boot. btw it is a p3 coppermine. > > This is the output from zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz . > > > CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y > CONFIG_IDE=y > # Please see Documentation/ide/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives > CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y > CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y > CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set > CONFIG_IDE_GD=y > CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y > CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATAPI=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEACPI=y > # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set > CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y > # IDE chipset support/bugfixes > CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPNP is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_SFF=y > # PCI IDE chipsets support > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y > CONFIG_IDEPCI_PCIBUS_ORDER=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y > # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set > # CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA is not set > # CONFIG_VIDEO_OUTPUT_CONTROL is not set > # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set > # CONFIG_PROVIDE_OHCI1394_DMA_INIT is not set I would expect to see: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y in your configuration given that it's a Coppermine. You might want to add that in the 2.6.30 and the 2.6.34 kernels, although DEV_GENERIC should give you what you need, as you are probably using that right now. Use "make menuconfig" to configure the kernel. Make sure it's "<*>" not "" for the PIIX controller and then rebuild and install the kernel. Do you have "lspci" installed? The results from "lspci -v" would be very helpful right now. > I just tried /etc/init.de/udev resart . I am getting errors not to use > the script with baselayout-1 . The box is very slow now. Will reboot and > see what baselayout is on it. Yeah, don't worry about this right now.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 15:53, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: >> On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: >> >>> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >>> change anything. >>> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >>> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >>> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >>> /dev/sd* >>> >>> Any ideas? >> >> KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer >> SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX >> to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. > > But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good > until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices > back. > > Konstantin, I'm assuming, from your original post, that you have not > changed your kernel in any way over the last few months. You said that > it was running fine for eight months but now after rebooting, you're in > trouble. Are you *sure* you haven't made any changes to the kernel? I'm > also assuming that you know that the kernel drivers for your disk > controllers should not be built as modules but built into the kernel so > that you don't need to go through creating an initramfs and hoping for > your devices to get populated. > Hi, I tried booting 2.6.28 / 2.6.29 / 2.6.30 . The 30 series has not been running on the box befor. Anyway the result is the same no matter which kernel I am booting. I use make oldconfig for uping the kernel. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 16:04, schrieb Mick: > On 28 July 2010 14:53, Bill Longman wrote: >> On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: >>> On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: >>> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not change anything. Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no /dev/sd* Any ideas? >>> >>> KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer >>> SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX >>> to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. >> >> But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good >> until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices >> back. > > I am not sure that he does not have those devices ... I don't know if > the error message is returned from grub or from the OS. > > It could be that the kernel stanza is wrongly pointing to /dev/hda, > and, or fstab is not correct. Hi Mick, but typing ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* should show up something. Shouldn't it? df -h shows /dev/hda3 is mounted on / For me this is strange. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
I can't understand what you have typed. Please run emerge -avuNDt world and post the entire output here. On Wednesday 28 July 2010 15:34:23 sam new wrote: > I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 > ,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the > package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount > depends hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do? > > On 28 July 2010 13:01, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 04:44:23 sam new wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > >As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any > > > > other > > > > > devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE="-hal" in > > > /etc/make.conf ,and recompile the packages, and also modify > > > /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD="no" ,exec rc-update del hal default > > > .All things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world ,in > > > the list still has a hal package, I don't know why system sitll emerge > > > hal? maybe dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and check packages > > > which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any Suggestions? > > > > emerge -avuNDt world > > > > > > to get a tree view of dependencies. That will should just what is causing > > hal > > to be pulled in > > > > > > > > -- > > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 28 July 2010 15:27, Bill Longman wrote: > On 07/28/2010 07:04 AM, Mick wrote: >> On 28 July 2010 14:53, Bill Longman wrote: >>> On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: > I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not > change anything. > Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc > boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running > mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no > /dev/sd* > > Any ideas? KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. >>> >>> But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good >>> until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices >>> back. >> >> I am not sure that he does not have those devices ... I don't know if >> the error message is returned from grub or from the OS. >> >> It could be that the kernel stanza is wrongly pointing to /dev/hda, >> and, or fstab is not correct. > > He says the "pc boots fine now" and he "can use it" and he goes on to > say that he has "no /dev/hd*" or "/dev/sd*" devices, so I have to > believe he's got a running system. Hmm ... he'll have to be able to hang his OS off some fs or other if it is indeed working. Unless he's running some clever ramdisk, then I would not reach the conclusion that he has a working OS. > Not having any /dev/hd* files would > support the error trying to mount /boot. Trying to fix /etc/fstab first > is not the way to attack his problem given the information we have now. Perhaps he passed the correct path to his grub and the boot sequence fails when it tries to find the devices listed in fstab, so the OS never completes booting. Either way, hopefully the OP will shed some light to this rather than us assuming more or less what might actually be the case. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 15:45, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 01:50 AM, KH wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >> change anything. >> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >> /dev/sd* >> >> Any ideas? > > Konstantin, please post what your kernel has for IDE support. If you > have /proc/config.gz, then please post the results from "zgrep IDE > /proc/config.gz" so we can get an idea of why you have no /dev/hd* > devices. We will also need to know what kind of disk controller your > server really has. Are they IDE or SATA controllers? > Hi Bill, Now I am running 2.6.30-r8 but 2.6.34-r1 is ready but not jet copied to /boot. btw it is a p3 coppermine. This is the output from zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz . CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y CONFIG_IDE=y # Please see Documentation/ide/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set CONFIG_IDE_GD=y CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATAPI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEACPI=y # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y # IDE chipset support/bugfixes CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPNP is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_SFF=y # PCI IDE chipsets support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y CONFIG_IDEPCI_PCIBUS_ORDER=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_OUTPUT_CONTROL is not set # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set # CONFIG_PROVIDE_OHCI1394_DMA_INIT is not set I just tried /etc/init.de/udev resart . I am getting errors not to use the script with baselayout-1 . The box is very slow now. Will reboot and see what baselayout is on it. Regards kh
[gentoo-user] USB SDHC Card Reader works, but only if mounted first in WinXP virtual machine
Hi, I have a USB SDHC card reader whose partition table is not read, and device node not created, when plugged into my Gentoo Linux computer. I posted about this a year or two ago but was never able to get it working, until I recently made an accidental discovery: If I let a VMWare WinXP take control of the USB device, on the same physical linux machine as above, the card reader mounts normally in the virtual WinXP. Then, if I release the USB device from VMware, Linux takes control of the device back and can read the partition table and creates the device node normally. After that everything works fine, I can copy files to/from etc. and everything seems normal. I hope some usb/udev/something guru here can give me a pointer on where to begin tracking down the cause of this. Thanks. :) When I plug in the card reader, dmesg tells me this: [1637793.709415] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 22 [1637793.826139] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=090c, idProduct=6000 [1637793.826142] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [1637793.826145] usb 2-4: Product: SM331AB CARD-READER [1637793.826146] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: Silicon Motion,Inc. [1637793.826148] usb 2-4: SerialNumber: 12345678901234567890 [1637793.826356] scsi38 : usb-storage 2-4:1.0 [1637799.870068] scsi 38:0:0:0: Direct-Access 6000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS [1637799.870187] sd 38:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg8 type 0 [1637799.871735] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] 62748672 512-byte logical blocks: (32.1 GB/29.9 GiB) [1637799.872307] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Write Protect is off [1637799.872309] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Mode Sense: 4b 00 00 08 [1637799.872310] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache: write through [1637799.874301] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache: write through [1637799.874303] sdg: [1637800.005993] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08 [1637800.005996] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Sense Key : 0x5 [current] [1637800.005998] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] ASC=0x21 ASCQ=0x0 [1637800.006000] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 [1637800.006004] end_request: I/O error, dev sdg, sector 0 [1637800.006006] Buffer I/O error on device sdg, logical block 0 [1637800.006881] ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed. [1637800.006883] unable to read partition table [1637800.008115] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache: write through [1637800.008117] sd 38:0:0:0: [sdg] Attached SCSI removable disk Despite dmesg saying unable to read partition table, fdisk -l /dev/sdg shows me the partition anyway: Disk /dev/sdg: 32.1 GB, 32127320064 bytes 236 heads, 42 sectors/track, 6330 cylinders, total 62748672 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdg181926274867131370240c W95 FAT32 (LBA) When I let VMware Workstation virtual WinXP session claim the USB device, it shows me this in dmesg when I plug it in: [1639461.856033] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 23 [1639461.972673] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=090c, idProduct=6000 [1639461.972676] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [1639461.972679] usb 2-4: Product: SM331AB CARD-READER [1639461.972680] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: Silicon Motion,Inc. [1639461.972682] usb 2-4: SerialNumber: 12345678901234567890 [1639461.972956] scsi39 : usb-storage 2-4:1.0 [1639462.343346] usb 2-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 23 [1639462.459687] scsi40 : usb-storage 2-4:1.0 [1639462.607973] usb 2-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 23 [1639462.826673] usb 2-4: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usb-storage while 'vmware-vmx' sets config #1 [1639462.826721] usb 2-4: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usb-storage while 'vmware-vmx' sets config #1 And when I release the USB device from VMWare back to Linux, dmesg shows this: [1639859.353550] scsi41 : usb-storage 2-4:1.0 [1639864.347499] scsi 41:0:0:0: Direct-Access 6000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS [1639864.347616] sd 41:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg8 type 0 [1639864.348239] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdg] 62748672 512-byte logical blocks: (32.1 GB/29.9 GiB) [1639864.348757] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdg] Write Protect is off [1639864.348759] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdg] Mode Sense: 4b 00 00 08 [1639864.348761] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache: write through [1639864.350737] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache: write through [1639864.350740] sdg: sdg1 [1639864.354864] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache: write through [1639864.354866] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdg] Attached SCSI removable disk >From this point the card reader works normally in Linux until I unplug it. Every time I plug it in I must use the above stated virtual WinXP workaround in order to use it. The lsusb -v of this device: Bus 002
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 07/28/2010 07:04 AM, Mick wrote: > On 28 July 2010 14:53, Bill Longman wrote: >> On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: >>> On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: >>> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not change anything. Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no /dev/sd* Any ideas? >>> >>> KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer >>> SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX >>> to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. >> >> But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good >> until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices >> back. > > I am not sure that he does not have those devices ... I don't know if > the error message is returned from grub or from the OS. > > It could be that the kernel stanza is wrongly pointing to /dev/hda, > and, or fstab is not correct. He says the "pc boots fine now" and he "can use it" and he goes on to say that he has "no /dev/hd*" or "/dev/sd*" devices, so I have to believe he's got a running system. Not having any /dev/hd* files would support the error trying to mount /boot. Trying to fix /etc/fstab first is not the way to attack his problem given the information we have now.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 28 July 2010 14:53, Bill Longman wrote: > On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: >> On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: >> >>> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >>> change anything. >>> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >>> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >>> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >>> /dev/sd* >>> >>> Any ideas? >> >> KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer >> SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX >> to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. > > But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good > until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices > back. I am not sure that he does not have those devices ... I don't know if the error message is returned from grub or from the OS. It could be that the kernel stanza is wrongly pointing to /dev/hda, and, or fstab is not correct. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: > On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: > >> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >> change anything. >> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >> /dev/sd* >> >> Any ideas? > > KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer > SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX > to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices back. Konstantin, I'm assuming, from your original post, that you have not changed your kernel in any way over the last few months. You said that it was running fine for eight months but now after rebooting, you're in trouble. Are you *sure* you haven't made any changes to the kernel? I'm also assuming that you know that the kernel drivers for your disk controllers should not be built as modules but built into the kernel so that you don't need to go through creating an initramfs and hoping for your devices to get populated.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 07/28/2010 01:50 AM, KH wrote: > Am 25.07.2010 15:57, schrieb Mick: >> On Sunday 25 July 2010 09:18:33 Dale wrote: >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 25 July 2010 06:57:43 KH wrote: >> You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? >> >> >> >> Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the >> journal and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not >> the 40 minutes it takes to do a ful ext2 check. >> >> >> >> I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a >> way to do this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. >> Maybe an ext user will chip in with the correct method > > Hi, > > I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 > /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. It's been a long time since I used ext3 so some of this might be wrong. An fsck that takes a few seconds is using the journal, which might not uncover deeper corruption. You should try disabling the journal (I couldn't find the way to do that though), but this will also work: Boot of a LiveCD, mount your root partition somewhere using type "ext2" and fsck it. This will invalidate the journal but that's OK, it gets recreated on the next proper boot. Let the fsck finish - it will take a while on a large fs. When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. >>> >>> And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. >>> ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. >> >> KH, I think that this may not be related to a fs error as such. >> >> Yes, pulling the plug may have caused fs corruption. However, more likely >> is >> that pulling the plug did not allow you to do something that you should have >> done after you finished upgrading to grub-0.97-r9. The latest installation >> of >> grub asks you to reinstall in the MBR and point its root to wherever your >> /boot is. GRUB's fs and its drivers may have changed and therefore the old >> boot loader code is looking for files that no longer exist. >> >> So you'll probably be alright again if you boot with a fresh systemrescue >> LiveCD and run grub and then root (hd) and setup (hd0) before you quit >> and >> reboot. >> >> If that doesn't work then you most likely have a fs problem. >> >> HTH. > > Hi, > > I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not > change anything. > Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc > boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running > mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no > /dev/sd* > > Any ideas? Konstantin, please post what your kernel has for IDE support. If you have /proc/config.gz, then please post the results from "zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz" so we can get an idea of why you have no /dev/hd* devices. We will also need to know what kind of disk controller your server really has. Are they IDE or SATA controllers?
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: > I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not > change anything. > Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc > boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running > mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no > /dev/sd* > > Any ideas? KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. PS. When you install GRUB use tab completion to see what's available and make sure you install it in the correct drive/partition. PPS. Peter, I installed the kernel option for [*] ATA SFF support and corresponding chipset (ICH) for my P4 and it now boots fine. So I suggest that you use lshw to find which chipset you must activate under ATA SFF (unless you have one of the more modern <*> AHCI SATA support controllers like I have on my i7 Dell). -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: State of Radeon drivers
I was updating my AMD64 system last night - which has an nVidia card and uses the nVidia binary stack - and ran into problems. jasper won't compile with nVidia's provide opengl implementation. But bug report[1] notes suggest the problem is in nVidia's binary layer and all the crap the replace. I had to switch it over to the standard X11 opengl to compile it. I'll switch it back later, but there are serious problems with the nVidia binary stack that way. My point is that in using the binary drivers you are laden to the card supports they choose, and you will eventually end up using the open source drivers once they decide it is no longer worth their effort to support the card. This holds true for both nVidia and ATI. Ben http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133609 > >From: App Deb >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 5:16:46 PM >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: State of Radeon drivers > >Nvidia's binary can't be compared to ATI's one. The problems you describe are >ATI-binary specific. > > >And yes the nvidia binary replaces a lot of Xorg stuff, but after some time >you >will realise that this is a good thing, as the Xorg is a mess, breaks with >updates, and introduces bugs with each release. And because developers know >that, they always prepare their software for nvidia, as it is the only >*serious* >graphics solution for *nix right now. > > >Don't get me wrong, I don't even have an nvidia card in my systems right now >(cause ATI are superior in windows, all my systems have ATI), but I miss the >times that I had one. So much more stuff worked without problems and with >better >performance. > > >On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:42 PM, BRM wrote: > >That's great so long as nVidia supports your card. The problem with the binary >drivers is that they typically only support a percentage of all the cards the >video maker makes. >>For example, I can't use the ATI binary driver on my laptop since it no >>longer >>supports the R250 chipset, only their latest 3 or 4 generations of cards. So >>I >>have to use the OSS driver, which works great with it. >>I have been able to use both the OSS and proprietary drivers on my desktop >>with >>an nVidia card, but I don't know how much longer that will last. >> >>nVidia's proprietary driver is good namely because it is the same at the core >>as >>on Windows and Mac, and they wrap it to make it work with the *nix kernels. >>However, they also do a lot of other funky stuff and keep people from being >>able >>to fully use the full extend of X. Just search this list (among others) for >>xRanderer and other components of X and you'll see the full story of nVidia's >>proprietary driver. >> >>Ben >> >> >>> >>>From: App Deb >>>To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >>>Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 5:29:10 AM >>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: State of Radeon drivers >>> >>> >>>If you are going to use any *nix, nvidia is the best option for years now. >>>The >>>nvidia closed source drivers are of professional quality and have great >>>performance. Actually they are the *standard* for graphics in *nix, and many >>>(professional or not) applications actually support only nvidia. >>> >>> >>>The ati oss driver is still under development, sometimes it works ok, >>>sometimes >>>not, and it is mostly for basic desktop usage and in my opinion it is >>>progressing too slow. Anyway, I don't like having a driver that uses 10% of >>>my >>>hardware's capabilties. So until it actually reaches 100% (like the rest of >>>the >>>linux drivers) I can't recommend ATI on linux and nvidia is the way to go. >>> >>> >>>On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Florian Philipp >>> >>>wrote: >>> >>>Am 26.07.2010 01:01, schrieb James: > Florian Philipp f_philipp.fastmail.net> writes: > > >> I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility >> Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect >> Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable? > > Well, lots of good information previously posted. Here's a > few more tidbits. When ATI video get's older, there's > always good opensource solutions to keep using it. Nvidia, > sometimes you toss in garbage can, or use vesa or > get lucky? Dunno, as I personally avoid Nvidia; other > insist on Nvidia. kinda a religious thing with some. > Hehe, religious is the right word. I remember a situation at my workplace: The admin of our departement IT ordered a Linux workstation with (fully supported) ATI graphics. At the last second he was overruled by the head of our institute's IT in favor of a completely unsupported and more expensive NVidia card. Not only did the poor guy have to wait two more weeks for the shipment to arrive, he was also stuck with the VESA driver for half a year and unstable NVidia drivers ever since. Well, thanks everyone who answered! Problem solved.
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 ,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount depends hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do? On 28 July 2010 13:01, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 28 July 2010 04:44:23 sam new wrote: > > Hi All, > >As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any > other > > devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE="-hal" in > > /etc/make.conf ,and recompile the packages, and also modify > > /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD="no" ,exec rc-update del hal default .All > > things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world ,in the list > > still has a hal package, I don't know why system sitll emerge hal? maybe > > dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and check packages which depend HAL > > ,have no idea ,any Suggestions? > > > emerge -avuNDt world > > > to get a tree view of dependencies. That will should just what is causing > hal > to be pulled in > > > > -- > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > >
Re: [gentoo-user] my /etc/conf.d/clock file is missing
sorry. it is renamed to /etc/conf.d/hwclock...my bad :P On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Xi Shen wrote: > hi, > > i just installed a new gentoo amd64 system, and i cannot find the > /etc/conf.d/clock file. do i miss some package? i cannot remember > there's a package to install the /etc/conf.d/clock file. > > > -- > Best Regards, > Xi Shen (David) > > http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ > -- Best Regards, Xi Shen (David) http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
[gentoo-user] my /etc/conf.d/clock file is missing
hi, i just installed a new gentoo amd64 system, and i cannot find the /etc/conf.d/clock file. do i miss some package? i cannot remember there's a package to install the /etc/conf.d/clock file. -- Best Regards, Xi Shen (David) http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 25.07.2010 15:57, schrieb Mick: > On Sunday 25 July 2010 09:18:33 Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On Sunday 25 July 2010 06:57:43 KH wrote: > You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? > > > > Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the > journal and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not > the 40 minutes it takes to do a ful ext2 check. > > > > I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a > way to do this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. > Maybe an ext user will chip in with the correct method Hi, I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. >>> >>> It's been a long time since I used ext3 so some of this might be wrong. >>> >>> An fsck that takes a few seconds is using the journal, which might not >>> uncover deeper corruption. You should try disabling the journal (I >>> couldn't find the way to do that though), but this will also work: >>> >>> Boot of a LiveCD, mount your root partition somewhere using type "ext2" >>> and fsck it. This will invalidate the journal but that's OK, it gets >>> recreated on the next proper boot. Let the fsck finish - it will take a >>> while on a large fs. >>> >>> When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. >> >> And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. >> ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. > > KH, I think that this may not be related to a fs error as such. > > Yes, pulling the plug may have caused fs corruption. However, more likely is > that pulling the plug did not allow you to do something that you should have > done after you finished upgrading to grub-0.97-r9. The latest installation > of > grub asks you to reinstall in the MBR and point its root to wherever your > /boot is. GRUB's fs and its drivers may have changed and therefore the old > boot loader code is looking for files that no longer exist. > > So you'll probably be alright again if you boot with a fresh systemrescue > LiveCD and run grub and then root (hd) and setup (hd0) before you quit > and > reboot. > > If that doesn't work then you most likely have a fs problem. > > HTH. Hi, I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not change anything. Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no /dev/sd* Any ideas? Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:44:23 +0800, sam new wrote: >As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any > other devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE="-hal" > in /etc/make.conf ,and recompile the packages, and also > modify /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD="no" ,exec rc-update del hal > default .All things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my > world ,in the list still has a hal package, I don't know why system > sitll emerge hal? maybe dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and > check packages which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any Suggestions? USE only affects optional dependencies. euse -I hal will list packages that have a hal USE flag while emerge --depclean -pv sys-apps/hal will show those that depend o it. If any appear i only the second list, they probably have a compulsory dependency on hal. For example K3b shows up like that here. -- Neil Bothwick Runtime Error: Out of funny taglines! signature.asc Description: PGP signature