Re: [gentoo-user] what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 08:15 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's
> saying me 
> it needs an update of portage itself.
> In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162
> today)...
> 
> Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an
> other...
> 
> what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la
> pelle" (french 
> expression). 

You can always read the ChangeLogs...




Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer and new cups

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas de Buhr

>But my main problem is another one: How do I tell CUPS which device my 
>printer is? I tried usb:/dev/usb/lp0 (found this notation when
>googling 'usb printer device uri'), but nothing happens when I try to
>print.

with cups loaded and printer connected:

# /usr/libexec/cups/backend/usb
direct usb://Kyocera/FS-1010 (...)
   ^ cups device URI



[gentoo-user] Bisect a problem going back months?

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Knecht
I'm wondering if there is a Gentoo way to bisect a bug that's crept
into my 64-bit Intel-based system (Intel process, motherboard and
graphics) over the last few months. Fundamentally when this bug
appears it generates a complete X crash back to the gdm login. My
suspicion is that it's related to the Gentoo push to use firefox-bin
and 32-bit Flash until some security issues were addressed but I don't
know that for sure.

Are there specific overlays I'd want to add using layman that would
allow me to get back to earlier versions of the Intel graphics driver,
64-bit Firefox and the now masked versions of Flash I was using say
2-3 months ago? At this point I don't know for sure that what I need
isn't in portage and just masked. I'll start reviewing that this
evening. This post was primarily just to figure out what my options
might be.

I've never used sunrise or sunset, etc. Maybe it's as easy as adding
one of those to layman and then bisecting my way through some
experiments to figure out where the problem first appeared?

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] automatically updated certain packages

2010-09-13 Thread Stroller


On 12 Sep 2010, at 22:13, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

...
I've got a tricky task for automatic update script, which requires
some portage magic ...

The script has a list of packages which should be updated
completely automatically, but *only* if they're pulled in as
dependency (beginning from world), and others not in that list
should *not* be updated.


If I'm understanding you correctly then you might find `eix -Iu --only- 
names` to find a list of packages which are installed on the system,  
but not up to date. You can use `equery d category/atom` to see if the  
package has any dependencies.


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Dale

Stéphane Guedon wrote:

Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's saying me
it needs an update of portage itself.
In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)...

Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an other...

what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la pelle" (french
expression).
   


Have you tired emerge -uva portage and just see if it really has a 
upgrade for portage?


Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:

Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's saying me
it needs an update of portage itself.
In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)...

Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an other...

what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la pelle" (french
expression).


emerge -al1 portage

(Note the "l" option.)




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 13 September 2010 21:06:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's
> > saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
> > In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)...
> >
> > Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an
> > other...
> >
> > what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la pelle"
> > (french expression).
>
> emerge -al1 portage
>
> (Note the "l" option.)

today, one more ! portage to the 2.1.9.4 if I remember exactly !
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 13 September 2010 20:15:24 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> On Monday 13 September 2010 21:06:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's
> > > saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
> > > In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)...
> > > 
> > > Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an
> > > other...
> > > 
> > > what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la pelle"
> > > (french expression).
> > 
> > emerge -al1 portage
> > 
> > (Note the "l" option.)
> 
> today, one more ! portage to the 2.1.9.4 if I remember exactly !

Do you have "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" set to something starting with a "~..."?

If yes, then you can expect regular updates to further "unstable" versions.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 13 September 2010 20:28:07 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday 13 September 2010 20:15:24 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > On Monday 13 September 2010 21:06:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > > On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > > Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge,
> > > > it's
> > > > saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
> > > > In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162
> > > > today)...
> > > >
> > > > Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo
> > > > and an
> > > > other...
> > > >
> > > > what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la
> > > > pelle"
> > > > (french expression).
> > >
> > > emerge -al1 portage
> > >
> > > (Note the "l" option.)
> >
> > today, one more ! portage to the 2.1.9.4 if I remember exactly !
>
> Do you have "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" set to something starting with a "~..."?
>
> If yes, then you can expect regular updates to further "unstable" versions.
>
> --
> Joost

yes, of course... but... one release per day ? strange isn't it ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 13 September 2010 20:37:13 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> On Monday 13 September 2010 20:28:07 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Monday 13 September 2010 20:15:24 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > On Monday 13 September 2010 21:06:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > > > On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > > > Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge,
> > > > > it's
> > > > > saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
> > > > > In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162
> > > > > today)...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo
> > > > > and an
> > > > > other...
> > > > > 
> > > > > what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la
> > > > > pelle"
> > > > > (french expression).
> > > > 
> > > > emerge -al1 portage
> > > > 
> > > > (Note the "l" option.)
> > > 
> > > today, one more ! portage to the 2.1.9.4 if I remember exactly !
> > 
> > Do you have "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" set to something starting with a "~..."?
> > 
> > If yes, then you can expect regular updates to further "unstable"
> > versions.
> > 
> > --
> > Joost
> 
> yes, of course... but... one release per day ? strange isn't it ?

I wouldn't expect people to run a Gentoo system with all packages on unstable.
I tend to only select specific packages as unstable when I really need that 
version.

I wouldn't be surprised to have to upgrade a substantial set of packages on a 
daily basis with that setting.

Why do you specify you want the latest versions and then get surprised when 
you get new updates on a daily basis?

--
Joost



[gentoo-user] Some problems while migrating to 64bit

2010-09-13 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

(I did a emerge -e world with the "world"-file from my 32bit
system...)

my 64bit-root is finally up and running and X is up also.

Hurray! :)

But there some strange problems...

Sigh... :-{

1.) The fonts of mrxvt are microscopic tiny...my home and .mrxvt 
remained the same. Are fonts not reported to "world" when emerged?
What are the basic fonts I need before buying new glasses?

2.) Mouse does not work. Hald is up, fdi-rules are copied from my old
system, /dev/input/mice is there, gpm (started for a test) sees
the mouse, xf86-input-mouse is recompiled, dbus is running.
What's wrong? X.org.log reports "no device defined for mouse"...
my xorg.conf does not define such...but it is the same xorg.conf,
which works under 32bit env.
So

3.) Keyboard behaves somehow strange. German Umlauts works, but "|"
does not...it performs something like a crazy backspace or so.
And a UNIX without a working pipe is not really making me happy...

4.) As someone already reports to the list: k3b does not find any
burner, cdrom, dvd-drive. /dev/sr0 exist and is linked to dvd.
I even can boot from dvd...
Somehow I "feel" dbus is guilty but this is more a paranormal
input ;) than anything related to system administration.
This did work with an older version of dbus on my old system.
But I cannot stay with this older version, since emerge claims
to need it for other installs

As always I will be very happy for help. Thank you very much in
advance!

Best regards
mcc







[gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/13/2010 09:37 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:

On Monday 13 September 2010 20:28:07 J. Roeleveld wrote:

On Monday 13 September 2010 20:15:24 Stéphane Guedon wrote:

On Monday 13 September 2010 21:06:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:

Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge,
it's
saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162
today)...

Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo
and an
other...

what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la
pelle"
(french expression).


emerge -al1 portage

(Note the "l" option.)


today, one more ! portage to the 2.1.9.4 if I remember exactly !


Do you have "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" set to something starting with a "~..."?

If yes, then you can expect regular updates to further "unstable" versions.

--
Joost


yes, of course... but... one release per day ? strange isn't it ?


No, not really.  Developers push fixes for problems reported in 
bugs.gentoo.org and ask the users to test whether the fixes work as 
expected.  It's normal that this can result in very fast version updates.


And as said previously, the "-l" option of emerge will tell you why an 
update was pushed into portage.





Re: [gentoo-user] Bisect a problem going back months?

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Mark Knecht  wrote:
> I'm wondering if there is a Gentoo way to bisect a bug that's crept
> into my 64-bit Intel-based system (Intel process, motherboard and
> graphics) over the last few months. Fundamentally when this bug
> appears it generates a complete X crash back to the gdm login. My
> suspicion is that it's related to the Gentoo push to use firefox-bin
> and 32-bit Flash until some security issues were addressed but I don't
> know that for sure.
>
> Are there specific overlays I'd want to add using layman that would
> allow me to get back to earlier versions of the Intel graphics driver,
> 64-bit Firefox and the now masked versions of Flash I was using say
> 2-3 months ago? At this point I don't know for sure that what I need
> isn't in portage and just masked. I'll start reviewing that this
> evening. This post was primarily just to figure out what my options
> might be.
>
> I've never used sunrise or sunset, etc. Maybe it's as easy as adding
> one of those to layman and then bisecting my way through some
> experiments to figure out where the problem first appeared?

You can get old ebuilds from http://sources.gentoo.org, and maybe take
whole portage tree snapshot from a given point in time (never tried
it). Or maybe there are portage webrsync snapshots going back (again,
never used them).

If you have demerge installed it should have taken snapshots of which
packages you had installed at each time you ran emerge as well. I
think that'll still depend on those old versions still being in the
tree, which for security fixes etc they usually are not kept, but all
should be on http://sources.gentoo.org



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Dale

Stéphane Guedon wrote:

On Monday 13 September 2010 20:28:07 J. Roeleveld wrote:
   

On Monday 13 September 2010 20:15:24 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
 

On Monday 13 September 2010 21:06:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
   

On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
 

Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge,
it's
saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162
today)...

Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo
and an
other...

what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la
pelle"
(french expression).
   

emerge -al1 portage

(Note the "l" option.)
 

today, one more ! portage to the 2.1.9.4 if I remember exactly !
   

Do you have "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" set to something starting with a "~..."?

If yes, then you can expect regular updates to further "unstable" versions.

--
Joost
 

yes, of course... but... one release per day ? strange isn't it ?

   


That's not to strange.  I have seen this with other packages before.  
Keep in mind, portage is maintained by Gentoo devs so they could release 
a version, see something that isn't working quite like they want, make 
some changes and push them out for upgrades.  I would much rather them 
do that than wait a couple days while people are using a "buggy" 
package.  Only thing worse is to upgrade, then downgrade, wait a few 
days and have to upgrade again.


My $0.02 worth.

Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/13/2010 09:45 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:

[...]

I wouldn't expect people to run a Gentoo system with all packages on unstable.
I tend to only select specific packages as unstable when I really need that
version.


Usually the best "stability" is reached by running either full stable or 
full testing (aka "unstable").  Mixing usually makes things worse.  I 
used to run a mixed system, but at some point it was clear to me that 
this fscks things up quite often due to package versions whether ~arch 
packages breaking with arch ones.





Re: [gentoo-user] what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon  wrote:
> Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's saying me
> it needs an update of portage itself.
> In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)...
>
> Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an other...
>
> what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la pelle" (french
> expression).

>From Changelog you can see, lots of bugs fixed in portage 2.1 in the
last few days:

*portage-2.1.9.1 (06 Sep 2010)

  06 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.1.ebuild:
  2.1.9.1 version bump. This fixes bug #336019 (show ebuild maintainer in
  build log), bug #336085 (AttributeError triggered by slot conflict), and
  bug #336285 (add unpack() workaround for interactive unzip). Bug #335925
  tracks all bugs fixed since 2.1.8.x.

*portage-2.1.9.2 (08 Sep 2010)

  08 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.2.ebuild:
  2.1.9.2 version bump. This fixes bug #332719 (depclean removes newly
  installed packages), bug #336338 (document FEATURES=candy), bug #336349
  (warn about dos-style line endings in make.conf), bug #336350
  (AttributeError for selinux), and bug #336356 (AttributeError when
  running test phase with ebuild command). Bug #335925 tracks all bugs
  fixed since 2.1.8.x.

*portage-2.1.9.3 (10 Sep 2010)

  10 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.3.ebuild:
  2.1.9.3 version bump. This fixes bug #267103 (warn about unapplied config
  updates in /etc/portage), bug #273282 (QA warning about install in
  deprecated directories), bug #336499 (call pkg_nofetch for misc fetch
  failures), bug #336503 (FEATURES=usersync tempdir permission issues),
  bug #336595 (--quiet support for "global updates"), bug #336644 (IOError
  [Errno 11] issues with tmpfs), and bug #336651 (fix resume after portage
  update to work with --exclude). Bug #335925 tracks all bugs fixed since
  2.1.8.x.

*portage-2.1.9.4 (11 Sep 2010)

  11 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.4.ebuild:
  2.1.9.4 version bump. This fixes bug #336692 (make package.mask negation
  in profiles PMS compliant and issue warnings) and also fixes subtle bugs
  in pkg_nofetch support. Bug #335925 tracks all bugs fixed since 2.1.8.x.

*portage-2.1.9.5 (13 Sep 2010)

  13 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.5.ebuild:
  2.1.9.5 version bump. This fixes bug #336142 (ebuild-ipc timeout is
  too short), bug #336875 (ETIME ImportError on FreeBSD), and bug #337031
  (make "always overflow destination buffers" gcc warnings non-fatal).
  Bug #335925 tracks all bugs fixed since 2.1.8.x.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to correctly read CPU temperature ?

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:15 AM,   wrote:
> On the Inet I found some, but not very clear infos, which say, that
>  the temperature sensing diodes of the AMD Phenom II x6 T1090 were
>  wrong. Second thing is, when idleing the CPU of my box has only 34
>  degree C -- which would be nice if true, but I dont believe that:
>  The CPU is cooled with a Scythe Mulgen 2 Rev.B or with other words
>  its only a fan and therefore only air cooling...

I think you need either k8temp or k10temp module in your kernel. Check
documentation in your kernel sources to see which chipsets are
supported by each (or enable both and see which on works).



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 13 September 2010 21:00:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 09/13/2010 09:45 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >> [...]
> > 
> > I wouldn't expect people to run a Gentoo system with all packages on
> > unstable. I tend to only select specific packages as unstable when I
> > really need that version.
> 
> Usually the best "stability" is reached by running either full stable or
> full testing (aka "unstable").  Mixing usually makes things worse.  I
> used to run a mixed system, but at some point it was clear to me that
> this fscks things up quite often due to package versions whether ~arch
> packages breaking with arch ones.

This is true, but not all packages I want are in stable, this forces me to 
unmask these.
I also don't always want to wait for packages to become stable.

What I currently have in "/etc/portage/package.keywords is:
=games-strategy/x2-1.4.05 ~amd64
=games-strategy/x3-2.5.01 ~amd64
=app-emulation/virtualbox-bin-3.2.8 ~amd64
=app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-3.2.8 ~amd64

These don't have a large set of additional requirements. If they did, I 
wouldn't have upgraded to these. I also had "qt-creator" in there, but that 
one has become stable since.

I'm still not clear how versions can be made to be marked "stable".

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] Bisect a problem going back months?

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Paul Hartman
 wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Mark Knecht  wrote:
>> I'm wondering if there is a Gentoo way to bisect a bug that's crept
>> into my 64-bit Intel-based system (Intel process, motherboard and
>> graphics) over the last few months. Fundamentally when this bug
>> appears it generates a complete X crash back to the gdm login. My
>> suspicion is that it's related to the Gentoo push to use firefox-bin
>> and 32-bit Flash until some security issues were addressed but I don't
>> know that for sure.
>>
>> Are there specific overlays I'd want to add using layman that would
>> allow me to get back to earlier versions of the Intel graphics driver,
>> 64-bit Firefox and the now masked versions of Flash I was using say
>> 2-3 months ago? At this point I don't know for sure that what I need
>> isn't in portage and just masked. I'll start reviewing that this
>> evening. This post was primarily just to figure out what my options
>> might be.
>>
>> I've never used sunrise or sunset, etc. Maybe it's as easy as adding
>> one of those to layman and then bisecting my way through some
>> experiments to figure out where the problem first appeared?
>
> You can get old ebuilds from http://sources.gentoo.org, and maybe take
> whole portage tree snapshot from a given point in time (never tried
> it). Or maybe there are portage webrsync snapshots going back (again,
> never used them).
>
> If you have demerge installed it should have taken snapshots of which
> packages you had installed at each time you ran emerge as well. I
> think that'll still depend on those old versions still being in the
> tree, which for security fixes etc they usually are not kept, but all
> should be on http://sources.gentoo.org
>

Thanks Paul. This is something to look at.

It seems at first glance it's roughly equivalent to what's on my
system right now. For instance concerning adobe-flash I see only one
small difference - the oldest 9.0.159 version differs shows up in eix
on the machine but isn't at sources.gentoo.org. That's not bad.

I believe you are right that I could probably somehow figure out by
hand using /var/log/emerge.log what was installed after a certain
date, or possibly figure out what version was running at a certain
date. I wonder if there are any tools for figuring out the installed
versions back in time. I don't save anything other than emerge.log and
I don't know for sure than an old rev of that file was thrown away at
some point and the file started over again. I suspect many ebuilds
that I've used are no longer in sources.gentoo.org as almost certainly
I used Flash 4.0, Flash 5.0, etc. sometime along time ago.

Thanks for the pointer.

Cheers,
Mark
What about really old



Re: [gentoo-user] How to correctly read CPU temperature ?

2010-09-13 Thread meino . cramer
Paul Hartman  [10-09-13 21:27]:
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:15 AM,   wrote:
> > On the Inet I found some, but not very clear infos, which say, that
> >  the temperature sensing diodes of the AMD Phenom II x6 T1090 were
> >  wrong. Second thing is, when idleing the CPU of my box has only 34
> >  degree C -- which would be nice if true, but I dont believe that:
> >  The CPU is cooled with a Scythe Mulgen 2 Rev.B or with other words
> >  its only a fan and therefore only air cooling...
> 
> I think you need either k8temp or k10temp module in your kernel. Check
> documentation in your kernel sources to see which chipsets are
> supported by each (or enable both and see which on works).
> 

As stated by AMD itsself. the temperature read by that module are
relative and not absolute.
Thats why I use the output of tk0110-acpi-0.

Live-example, taken at the same time:

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:   +19.0 C  (high = +70.0 C, crit = +90.0 C)

atk0110-acpi-0
CPU Temperature:   +34.0 C  (high = +40.0 C, crit = +90.0 C)

This is a difference of 15 degree Centigrade inside the CPU.
I would like to have THAT fan, which accomplish THIS delta...
sigh...
Also the "high" values are definitely VERY different...

Science is the explanation, why somethingd does not work...

Best regards
mcc





Re: [gentoo-user] Some problems while migrating to 64bit

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Knecht
Congrats

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:47 AM,   wrote:

>
> 2.) Mouse does not work. Hald is up, fdi-rules are copied from my old
>    system, /dev/input/mice is there, gpm (started for a test) sees
>    the mouse, xf86-input-mouse is recompiled, dbus is running.
>    What's wrong? X.org.log reports "no device defined for mouse"...
>    my xorg.conf does not define such...but it is the same xorg.conf,
>    which works under 32bit env.
>    So

Two things:

1) I think there are path differences in my xorg.config files between
64-bit and 32-bit. If you copied your xorg.config from the 32-bit
world you might need to modify those by hand.

2) Invest in a copy of modules-rebuild. (It's free and in portage.)
Double/triple/quadruple check that it gets set up with all the xorg
drivers, video drivers and other things that need to be rebuilt for
each kernel rev. Sometimes I've had problems simply because something
didn't get rebuilt. Common problem for me on change overs like this.

Hope this helps,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Bisect a problem going back months?

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Mark Knecht  wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Paul Hartman
>  wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Mark Knecht  wrote:
>>> I'm wondering if there is a Gentoo way to bisect a bug that's crept
>>> into my 64-bit Intel-based system (Intel process, motherboard and
>>> graphics) over the last few months. Fundamentally when this bug
>>> appears it generates a complete X crash back to the gdm login. My
>>> suspicion is that it's related to the Gentoo push to use firefox-bin
>>> and 32-bit Flash until some security issues were addressed but I don't
>>> know that for sure.
>>>
>>> Are there specific overlays I'd want to add using layman that would
>>> allow me to get back to earlier versions of the Intel graphics driver,
>>> 64-bit Firefox and the now masked versions of Flash I was using say
>>> 2-3 months ago? At this point I don't know for sure that what I need
>>> isn't in portage and just masked. I'll start reviewing that this
>>> evening. This post was primarily just to figure out what my options
>>> might be.
>>>
>>> I've never used sunrise or sunset, etc. Maybe it's as easy as adding
>>> one of those to layman and then bisecting my way through some
>>> experiments to figure out where the problem first appeared?
>>
>> You can get old ebuilds from http://sources.gentoo.org, and maybe take
>> whole portage tree snapshot from a given point in time (never tried
>> it). Or maybe there are portage webrsync snapshots going back (again,
>> never used them).
>>
>> If you have demerge installed it should have taken snapshots of which
>> packages you had installed at each time you ran emerge as well. I
>> think that'll still depend on those old versions still being in the
>> tree, which for security fixes etc they usually are not kept, but all
>> should be on http://sources.gentoo.org
>>
>
> Thanks Paul. This is something to look at.
>
> It seems at first glance it's roughly equivalent to what's on my
> system right now. For instance concerning adobe-flash I see only one
> small difference - the oldest 9.0.159 version differs shows up in eix
> on the machine but isn't at sources.gentoo.org. That's not bad.
>
> I believe you are right that I could probably somehow figure out by
> hand using /var/log/emerge.log what was installed after a certain
> date, or possibly figure out what version was running at a certain
> date. I wonder if there are any tools for figuring out the installed
> versions back in time. I don't save anything other than emerge.log and
> I don't know for sure than an old rev of that file was thrown away at
> some point and the file started over again. I suspect many ebuilds
> that I've used are no longer in sources.gentoo.org as almost certainly
> I used Flash 4.0, Flash 5.0, etc. sometime along time ago.
>
> Thanks for the pointer.

Everything should be in sources.gentoo.org going back more than 10
years. The trick is that you need to click the "Show dead files" link
to see the versions that have been removed from the tree. For example
this link shoes many adobe-flash revisions including 9.0.159:

http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-plugins/adobe-flash/?hideattic=0

Sorry I didn't mention that in my first message. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Bisect a problem going back months?

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Paul Hartman
 wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Mark Knecht  wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Paul Hartman
>>  wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Mark Knecht  wrote:
 I'm wondering if there is a Gentoo way to bisect a bug that's crept
 into my 64-bit Intel-based system (Intel process, motherboard and
 graphics) over the last few months. Fundamentally when this bug
 appears it generates a complete X crash back to the gdm login. My
 suspicion is that it's related to the Gentoo push to use firefox-bin
 and 32-bit Flash until some security issues were addressed but I don't
 know that for sure.

 Are there specific overlays I'd want to add using layman that would
 allow me to get back to earlier versions of the Intel graphics driver,
 64-bit Firefox and the now masked versions of Flash I was using say
 2-3 months ago? At this point I don't know for sure that what I need
 isn't in portage and just masked. I'll start reviewing that this
 evening. This post was primarily just to figure out what my options
 might be.

 I've never used sunrise or sunset, etc. Maybe it's as easy as adding
 one of those to layman and then bisecting my way through some
 experiments to figure out where the problem first appeared?
>>>
>>> You can get old ebuilds from http://sources.gentoo.org, and maybe take
>>> whole portage tree snapshot from a given point in time (never tried
>>> it). Or maybe there are portage webrsync snapshots going back (again,
>>> never used them).
>>>
>>> If you have demerge installed it should have taken snapshots of which
>>> packages you had installed at each time you ran emerge as well. I
>>> think that'll still depend on those old versions still being in the
>>> tree, which for security fixes etc they usually are not kept, but all
>>> should be on http://sources.gentoo.org
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Paul. This is something to look at.
>>
>> It seems at first glance it's roughly equivalent to what's on my
>> system right now. For instance concerning adobe-flash I see only one
>> small difference - the oldest 9.0.159 version differs shows up in eix
>> on the machine but isn't at sources.gentoo.org. That's not bad.
>>
>> I believe you are right that I could probably somehow figure out by
>> hand using /var/log/emerge.log what was installed after a certain
>> date, or possibly figure out what version was running at a certain
>> date. I wonder if there are any tools for figuring out the installed
>> versions back in time. I don't save anything other than emerge.log and
>> I don't know for sure than an old rev of that file was thrown away at
>> some point and the file started over again. I suspect many ebuilds
>> that I've used are no longer in sources.gentoo.org as almost certainly
>> I used Flash 4.0, Flash 5.0, etc. sometime along time ago.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer.
>
> Everything should be in sources.gentoo.org going back more than 10
> years. The trick is that you need to click the "Show dead files" link
> to see the versions that have been removed from the tree. For example
> this link shoes many adobe-flash revisions including 9.0.159:
>
> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-plugins/adobe-flash/?hideattic=0
>
> Sorry I didn't mention that in my first message. :)
>
>

Ah, very cool, and don't worry about not mentioning it. I should have
seen it myself.

So basically then anything that's there I could add to some sort of
personal overlay (docs are out there somewhere I'm sure) and then I
could continue to use this stuff into the future if necessary.

Thanks!

- Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: Some problems while migrating to 64bit

2010-09-13 Thread walt

On 09/13/2010 11:47 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

(I did a emerge -e world with the "world"-file from my 32bit
system...)

my 64bit-root is finally up and running and X is up also.

Hurray! :)

But there some strange problems...

Sigh... :-{


Yes, indeed.


1.) The fonts of mrxvt are microscopic tiny...my home and .mrxvt
 remained the same. Are fonts not reported to "world" when emerged?
 What are the basic fonts I need before buying new glasses?


I have far more than I really use, but here is my list:

(**) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/corefonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/dejavu/,
/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk-fonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/freefonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/,
/usr/share/fonts/urw-fonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/arphicfonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/terminus/,
/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
/usr/share/fonts/OTF,
/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,
/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
/usr/share/fonts/OTF,
/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/

The corefonts are the standard MS fonts used in Windows, which I actually use.



2.) Mouse does not work. Hald is up, fdi-rules are copied from my old
 system, /dev/input/mice is there, gpm (started for a test) sees
 the mouse, xf86-input-mouse is recompiled, dbus is running.
 What's wrong? X.org.log reports "no device defined for mouse"...
 my xorg.conf does not define such...but it is the same xorg.conf,
 which works under 32bit env.


xf86-input-evdev is the important driver these days, not keyboard and mouse.
(FWIW, I also have /dev/input/mouse0 in addition to 'mice')

Do you have that installed, and is X using it?  hal discovers the input
hardware, but then evdev takes over after that.  I have no Input Sections
in xorg.conf and evdev works perfectly without them:

(II) config/hal: Adding input device ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse
(II) LoadModule: "evdev"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
(II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 2.4.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: always reports core events
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Found 9 mouse buttons
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s)
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Found relative axes
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(**) Option "EmulateWheel" "true"
(**) Option "EmulateWheelButton" "8"
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 8, 
EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse" 
(type: MOUSE)
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
(II) ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse: initialized for relative axes.
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: 
KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"






3.) Keyboard behaves somehow strange. German Umlauts works, but "|"
 does not...it performs something like a crazy backspace or so.
 And a UNIX without a working pipe is not really making me happy...

4.) As someone already reports to the list: k3b does not find any
 burner, cdrom, dvd-drive. /dev/sr0 exist and is linked to dvd.
 I even can boot from dvd...
 Somehow I "feel" dbus is guilty but this is more a paranormal
 input ;) than anything related to system administration.
 This did work with an older version of dbus on my old system.
 But I cannot stay with this older version, since emerge claims
 to need it for other installs

As always I will be very happy for help. Thank you very much in
advance!

Best regards
mcc












Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:13 on Monday 13 September 2010, J. 
Roeleveld did opine thusly:

> On Monday 13 September 2010 21:00:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 09/13/2010 09:45 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > >> [...]
> > > 
> > > I wouldn't expect people to run a Gentoo system with all packages on
> > > unstable. I tend to only select specific packages as unstable when I
> > > really need that version.
> > 
> > Usually the best "stability" is reached by running either full stable or
> > full testing (aka "unstable").  Mixing usually makes things worse.  I
> > used to run a mixed system, but at some point it was clear to me that
> > this fscks things up quite often due to package versions whether ~arch
> > packages breaking with arch ones.
> 
> This is true, but not all packages I want are in stable, this forces me to
> unmask these.
> I also don't always want to wait for packages to become stable.
> 
> What I currently have in "/etc/portage/package.keywords is:
> =games-strategy/x2-1.4.05 ~amd64
> =games-strategy/x3-2.5.01 ~amd64
> =app-emulation/virtualbox-bin-3.2.8 ~amd64
> =app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-3.2.8 ~amd64
> 
> These don't have a large set of additional requirements. If they did, I
> wouldn't have upgraded to these. I also had "qt-creator" in there, but that
> one has become stable since.
> 
> I'm still not clear how versions can be made to be marked "stable".

File a stabilization request at bugs.gentoo.org

If it's sufficiently tested, and there are no outstanding big bugs on the 
package, and if the arch maintainers agree, the devs will move the package to 
stable.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:37 on Monday 13 September 2010, Stéphane 
Guedon did opine thusly:

> On Monday 13 September 2010 20:28:07 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Monday 13 September 2010 20:15:24 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > On Monday 13 September 2010 21:06:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > > > On 09/13/2010 09:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > > > Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge,
> > > > > it's
> > > > > saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
> > > > > In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162
> > > > > today)...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo
> > > > > and an
> > > > > other...
> > > > > 
> > > > > what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la
> > > > > pelle"
> > > > > (french expression).
> > > > 
> > > > emerge -al1 portage
> > > > 
> > > > (Note the "l" option.)
> > > 
> > > today, one more ! portage to the 2.1.9.4 if I remember exactly !
> > 
> > Do you have "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" set to something starting with a "~..."?
> > 
> > If yes, then you can expect regular updates to further "unstable"
> > versions.
> > 
> > --
> > Joost
> 
> yes, of course... but... one release per day ? strange isn't it ?


You are no a software developer, right?

Zac fixes one bug a day.
You get one update a day.

How is this unusual? Note I say "unusual" not "unfamiliar to you"


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/13/2010 10:13 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:

On Monday 13 September 2010 21:00:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 09/13/2010 09:45 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:

[...]


I wouldn't expect people to run a Gentoo system with all packages on
unstable. I tend to only select specific packages as unstable when I
really need that version.


Usually the best "stability" is reached by running either full stable or
full testing (aka "unstable").  Mixing usually makes things worse.  I
used to run a mixed system, but at some point it was clear to me that
this fscks things up quite often due to package versions whether ~arch
packages breaking with arch ones.


This is true, but not all packages I want are in stable, this forces me to
unmask these.
I also don't always want to wait for packages to become stable.

What I currently have in "/etc/portage/package.keywords is:
=games-strategy/x2-1.4.05 ~amd64
=games-strategy/x3-2.5.01 ~amd64
=app-emulation/virtualbox-bin-3.2.8 ~amd64
=app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-3.2.8 ~amd64

These don't have a large set of additional requirements. If they did, I
wouldn't have upgraded to these. I also had "qt-creator" in there, but that
one has become stable since.

I'm still not clear how versions can be made to be marked "stable".


After they go into testing and stay there for a month or two, someone 
makes a request to put it into stable.  AFAIK, this request can also be 
automated.


The person putting it into stable is then required to sanity check the 
package whether it can work with the rest of stable packages, since they 
differ from the testing ones.


And that step is what makes a fully ~arch system more reliable then a 
mixed one; because the package is known to work in an ~arch system, but 
it's not known whether it works OK in a stable one.  It's also a reason 
why many devs don't accept bug reports if you're using an ~arch package 
in a stable system; it's just too random and problems are expected. 
With Gentoo, a stable system is supposed to work (obviously).  An ~arch 
system is also supposed to work (note that "testing" doesn't mean 
"broken"; I try to avoid the term "unstable" when I refer to ~arch, 
"testing" is the term that accurately describes what ~arch is.) But a 
mixed system is not supposed to work ("not supposed" meaning no one is 
trying to make it work or even testing it.)





[gentoo-user] Re: Bisect a problem going back months?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/13/2010 05:38 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:

I'm wondering if there is a Gentoo way to bisect a bug


A bit off-topic, but it would be awesome if we could run git bisect with 
live ebuilds.  Right now, I'm using xf86-video-ati- for example. 
When I update it and there's a bug, I can't really bisect it; I need to 
grab the sources from Git manually and install it outside of portage 
(and that's bad.)


I guess it might be a good idea for the next GSoC?




Re: [gentoo-user] How to correctly read CPU temperature ?

2010-09-13 Thread Bill Longman
 On 09/13/2010 12:33 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Paul Hartman  [10-09-13 21:27]:
>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:15 AM,   wrote:
>>> On the Inet I found some, but not very clear infos, which say, that
>>>  the temperature sensing diodes of the AMD Phenom II x6 T1090 were
>>>  wrong. Second thing is, when idleing the CPU of my box has only 34
>>>  degree C -- which would be nice if true, but I dont believe that:
>>>  The CPU is cooled with a Scythe Mulgen 2 Rev.B or with other words
>>>  its only a fan and therefore only air cooling...
>> I think you need either k8temp or k10temp module in your kernel. Check
>> documentation in your kernel sources to see which chipsets are
>> supported by each (or enable both and see which on works).
>>
> As stated by AMD itsself. the temperature read by that module are
> relative and not absolute.
> Thats why I use the output of tk0110-acpi-0.
>
> Live-example, taken at the same time:
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1:   +19.0 C  (high = +70.0 C, crit = +90.0 C)
>
> atk0110-acpi-0
> CPU Temperature:   +34.0 C  (high = +40.0 C, crit = +90.0 C)
>
> This is a difference of 15 degree Centigrade inside the CPU.
> I would like to have THAT fan, which accomplish THIS delta...
> sigh...
> Also the "high" values are definitely VERY different...
>
> Science is the explanation, why somethingd does not work...
>
> Best regards
> mcc
>
>
>
And if you have an Asus mobo, you can use their kernel module (in the
later kernels).



[gentoo-user] Opera and Konqueror won't print, but FF works fine

2010-09-13 Thread Mick
I noticed that Opera no longer prints:

I [13/Sep/2010:21:48:54 +0100] Listening to ::1:631 on fd 6...
I [13/Sep/2010:21:48:54 +0100] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 7...
I [13/Sep/2010:21:48:54 +0100] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock on fd 8...
I [13/Sep/2010:21:48:54 +0100] Resuming new connection processing...
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job ???] Request file type is 
application/postscript.
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] Adding start banner page "none".
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] Adding end banner page "none".
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] File of type application/postscript 
queued by "michael".
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] Queued on "DESKJET" by "michael".
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] Started filter 
/usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 13882)
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] Started filter 
/usr/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 13883)
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] Started backend 
/usr/libexec/cups/backend/lpd (PID 13884)
I [13/Sep/2010:21:59:41 +0100] [Job 13] Completed successfully.

Something is sent to the printer, it spools over and spits out a ... blank 
page!

Konqueror won't even go as far as that.  It only shows:

I [13/Sep/2010:22:04:57 +0100] [Job ???] Request file type is application/pdf.

However, Firefox prints perfectly every time!

Any idea how I should go about fixing this?

# emerge -1pDv hplip cups

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.11-r2  USE="X acl dbus gnutls jpeg ldap pam 
perl png ppds python ssl tiff -avahi -java -kerberos -php -samba -slp -static 
-xinetd -zeroconf" LINGUAS="-de -en -es -et -fr -he -id -it -ja -pl -sv -
zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1  USE="X hpcups hpijs libnotify qt4 -
doc -fax -minimal -parport -policykit -scanner -snmp -static-ppds -udev-acl" 0 
kB

Total: 2 packages (2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] What happened to belak.sbboard.com?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
For over a week now, layman prints an error message when doing a "layman 
-S".  It gets the list of overlays from 
http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml


The whole site is down however:

"The site you are attempting to access is temporarily unavailable.
If you are the site owner please contact your system administrator."

Does anyone know what's going on?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bisect a problem going back months?

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> On 09/13/2010 05:38 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering if there is a Gentoo way to bisect a bug
>
> A bit off-topic, but it would be awesome if we could run git bisect with
> live ebuilds.  Right now, I'm using xf86-video-ati- for example. When I
> update it and there's a bug, I can't really bisect it; I need to grab the
> sources from Git manually and install it outside of portage (and that's
> bad.)
>
> I guess it might be a good idea for the next GSoC?

That would actually be quite cool actually - to be able to bisect but
stay within portage.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to belak.sbboard.com?

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> For over a week now, layman prints an error message when doing a "layman
> -S".  It gets the list of overlays from
> http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml

If that's belak's overlay, it has a different address according to my
layman. Look at http://bitbucket.org/belak/belak.gentoo to see if it's
the same thing. Maybe it just needs to be deleted and re-added.

My layman gets overlays from
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml (as defined in
layman.cfg) and seems to work fine. I've got no trace of the address
you're having problems with. Maybe it's something old or something you
added manually?

According to whois the owner of sbboard.com is strongbad3002 at yahoo
dot com in case you want to ask what they did to get their account
suspended. :)



[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to belak.sbboard.com?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/14/2010 02:01 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

For over a week now, layman prints an error message when doing a "layman
-S".  It gets the list of overlays from
http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml


If that's belak's overlay, it has a different address according to my
layman. Look at http://bitbucket.org/belak/belak.gentoo to see if it's
the same thing. Maybe it just needs to be deleted and re-added.

My layman gets overlays from
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml (as defined in
layman.cfg) and seems to work fine. I've got no trace of the address
you're having problems with. Maybe it's something old or something you
added manually?


I didn't add anything manually.  layman -L (as well as layman -f) says:

* Failed to update the overlay list from: 
http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml

* Error was:
* Failed to parse the overlays list fetched from 
http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml
* This means that the downloaded file is somehow corrupt or there was a 
problem with the webserver. Check the content of the file. Error was:
* XML parsing failed for "http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml"; 
(line 178, column 3)

* Hint: Try running "sudo layman -f" to re-fetch that file




[gentoo-user] Re: Opera and Konqueror won't print, but FF works fine

2010-09-13 Thread James
Mick  gmail.com> writes:




> [ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.11-r2  USE="X acl dbus gnutls jpeg ldap 
> pam 

> [ebuild   R   ] net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1  USE="X hpcups hpijs libnotify qt4 -


Hello Mick,

I got a new hp printer and had to use the latest testing versions
of cups and hplip to get it working correctly:

net-print/cups-1.4.4 (X acl dbus gnutls java jpeg ldap pam perl php png python
slp ssl threads tiff usb)
net-print/hplip-3.10.6(X hpcups libnotify qt4 scanner snmp)

Sometimes also you have to delete a setup and set the printer
up from scratch.

However, I think your problems are related to the fact it's a pdf
being printed from a browser? PDF files are all that is broken with
Opera

Unfortunately, when I have printer problems, I just have to keep hacking
at it. Solutions never seem methodical for me. I also keep backups of
old config files in /etc/cups directory, to sometimes manually hack at the
relevant config files.


hth,
James






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to belak.sbboard.com?

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 02:01 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Nikos Chantziaras
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> For over a week now, layman prints an error message when doing a "layman
>>> -S".  It gets the list of overlays from
>>> http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml
>>
>> If that's belak's overlay, it has a different address according to my
>> layman. Look at http://bitbucket.org/belak/belak.gentoo to see if it's
>> the same thing. Maybe it just needs to be deleted and re-added.
>>
>> My layman gets overlays from
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml (as defined in
>> layman.cfg) and seems to work fine. I've got no trace of the address
>> you're having problems with. Maybe it's something old or something you
>> added manually?
>
> I didn't add anything manually.  layman -L (as well as layman -f) says:
>
> * Failed to update the overlay list from:
> http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml
> * Error was:
> * Failed to parse the overlays list fetched from
> http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml
> * This means that the downloaded file is somehow corrupt or there was a
> problem with the webserver. Check the content of the file. Error was:
> * XML parsing failed for "http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml"; (line
> 178, column 3)
> * Hint: Try running "sudo layman -f" to re-fetch that file

Strange. Is that URL in your layman.cfg in the overlays section?
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml seems to be
the default URL in layman 1.4.1 on my system.



[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to belak.sbboard.com?

2010-09-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/14/2010 06:14 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

On 09/14/2010 02:01 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:


On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Nikos Chantziaras
  wrote:


For over a week now, layman prints an error message when doing a "layman
-S".  It gets the list of overlays from
http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml


If that's belak's overlay, it has a different address according to my
layman. Look at http://bitbucket.org/belak/belak.gentoo to see if it's
the same thing. Maybe it just needs to be deleted and re-added.

My layman gets overlays from
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml (as defined in
layman.cfg) and seems to work fine. I've got no trace of the address
you're having problems with. Maybe it's something old or something you
added manually?


I didn't add anything manually.  layman -L (as well as layman -f) says:

* Failed to update the overlay list from:
http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml
* Error was:
* Failed to parse the overlays list fetched from
http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml
* This means that the downloaded file is somehow corrupt or there was a
problem with the webserver. Check the content of the file. Error was:
* XML parsing failed for "http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml"; (line
178, column 3)
* Hint: Try running "sudo layman -f" to re-fetch that file


Strange. Is that URL in your layman.cfg in the overlays section?
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml seems to be
the default URL in layman 1.4.1 on my system.


OK, I've found out what's going on.  I my layman.cfg I have:

overlays: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml
  http://belak.sbboard.com/gentoo/overlay.xml

The second line was added as per instructions in order to be able to use 
the belak overlay since it's not in the official layman list (at least 
it wasn't back then.)  I totally forgot I did that :-/





Re: [gentoo-user] what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-13 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 13 September 2010 14:02:01 Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Stéphane Guedon 
wrote:
> > Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's
> > saying me it needs an update of portage itself.
> > In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)...
> >
> > Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an
> > other...
> >
> > what's going on ? Is somebody founding security holes "à la pelle"
> > (french expression).
>
> From Changelog you can see, lots of bugs fixed in portage 2.1 in the
> last few days:
>
> *portage-2.1.9.1 (06 Sep 2010)
>
>   06 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.1.ebuild:
>   2.1.9.1 version bump. This fixes bug #336019 (show ebuild maintainer in
>   build log), bug #336085 (AttributeError triggered by slot conflict), and
>   bug #336285 (add unpack() workaround for interactive unzip). Bug #335925
>   tracks all bugs fixed since 2.1.8.x.
>
> *portage-2.1.9.2 (08 Sep 2010)
>
>   08 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.2.ebuild:
>   2.1.9.2 version bump. This fixes bug #332719 (depclean removes newly
>   installed packages), bug #336338 (document FEATURES�ndy), bug #336349
>   (warn about dos-style line endings in make.conf), bug #336350
>   (AttributeError for selinux), and bug #336356 (AttributeError when
>   running test phase with ebuild command). Bug #335925 tracks all bugs
>   fixed since 2.1.8.x.
>
> *portage-2.1.9.3 (10 Sep 2010)
>
>   10 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.3.ebuild:
>   2.1.9.3 version bump. This fixes bug #267103 (warn about unapplied config
>   updates in /etc/portage), bug #273282 (QA warning about install in
>   deprecated directories), bug #336499 (call pkg_nofetch for misc fetch
>   failures), bug #336503 (FEATURES=usersync tempdir permission issues),
>   bug #336595 (--quiet support for "global updates"), bug #336644 (IOError
>   [Errno 11] issues with tmpfs), and bug #336651 (fix resume after portage
>   update to work with --exclude). Bug #335925 tracks all bugs fixed since
>   2.1.8.x.
>
> *portage-2.1.9.4 (11 Sep 2010)
>
>   11 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.4.ebuild:
>   2.1.9.4 version bump. This fixes bug #336692 (make package.mask negation
>   in profiles PMS compliant and issue warnings) and also fixes subtle bugs
>   in pkg_nofetch support. Bug #335925 tracks all bugs fixed since 2.1.8.x.
>
> *portage-2.1.9.5 (13 Sep 2010)
>
>   13 Sep 2010; Zac Medico  +portage-2.1.9.5.ebuild:
>   2.1.9.5 version bump. This fixes bug #336142 (ebuild-ipc timeout is
>   too short), bug #336875 (ETIME ImportError on FreeBSD), and bug #337031
>   (make "always overflow destination buffers" gcc warnings non-fatal).
>   Bug #335925 tracks all bugs fixed since 2.1.8.x.

Ok, I found it strange, nothing more ! And, no, I am not dev or package
maintainer, even if sometime, I would like...

Thanks guys...
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Opera and Konqueror won't print, but FF works fine

2010-09-13 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 14 September 2010 02:18:22 James wrote:
> Mick  gmail.com> writes:
> > [ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.11-r2  USE="X acl dbus gnutls jpeg
> > ldap pam
> > 
> > [ebuild   R   ] net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1  USE="X hpcups hpijs libnotify
> > qt4 -
> 
> Hello Mick,
> 
> I got a new hp printer and had to use the latest testing versions
> of cups and hplip to get it working correctly:
> 
> net-print/cups-1.4.4 (X acl dbus gnutls java jpeg ldap pam perl php png
> python slp ssl threads tiff usb)
> net-print/hplip-3.10.6(X hpcups libnotify qt4 scanner snmp)
> 
> Sometimes also you have to delete a setup and set the printer
> up from scratch.
> 
> However, I think your problems are related to the fact it's a pdf
> being printed from a browser? PDF files are all that is broken with
> Opera
> 
> Unfortunately, when I have printer problems, I just have to keep hacking
> at it. Solutions never seem methodical for me. I also keep backups of
> old config files in /etc/cups directory, to sometimes manually hack at the
> relevant config files.

Thanks James,

I have not ticked the box that says "print to file" in Opera.

In Konqueror the Output file is greyed out.

Therefore assume that both applications should be sending the data to the 
printer ...

The error file for Konqueror mentions pdf, but the Opera and Firefox show 
postcript:

I [27/Jun/2010:11:29:28 +0100] [Job ???] Request file type is 
application/postscript.

Do I now need more than the hplip driver perhaps?

BTW, a second box (x86) can print from Opera, but the page has areas which are 
blacked out.  Konq prints but always in colour even when I select greyscale 
and Firefox works fine.

This all must have started a month ago or so.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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