Re: [gentoo-user] OT: future moderation
Ok... I'll bite. On Sunday, June 12 at 00:19 (+0100), Matt Harrison said: > Hi list, > > An odd post here but I'm sitting up after midnight with a few beers and > I wanted to get an advanced word on this. > (sigh) Please don't drink and post. > I don't know if anyone is subscribed to the ruby-talk mailing list at > the moment (or used to be on the comp.lang.lisp group a while ago). > There is an odd character there who is harming the community by either > being insane (not my words -- those of ruby guru Ryan Davis) or with > extremely well crafted trolling. > > I see the trouble that ruby-talk is having with him and I wondered > firstly, if we would have similar trouble moderating his crap (he > alternates between email, usenet and forums. Apparently they can't > moderate him) and secondly, if/when he turns up here can we please shoot > him down the instant he arrives. > I have seem similar people on similar mailing lists. I simply ignore them. It works (for me). People who don't ignore them are usually the ones who are complaining the most, but as everyone is is ignoring it their complaints are only heard by themselves. > Ok, as I'm writing this it does seem that I'm going a little crazy, but > I consider this list my home. I love this list and the people on it..I > don't post that much these days but I have learned a lot. When I do > post, I get very helpful replies and I know you're good people. I would > just hate for this guy to come on here and wreck the joint. > Please seek psychiatric help. And please don't drink and post again... seriously. > Take this as you will, drunken ramblings or well-meant concern :) Mostly the former.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: future moderation
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: > Hi list, > > An odd post here but I'm sitting up after midnight with a few beers and I > wanted to get an advanced word on this. > > I don't know if anyone is subscribed to the ruby-talk mailing list at the > moment (or used to be on the comp.lang.lisp group a while ago). There is an > odd character there who is harming the community by either being insane (not > my words -- those of ruby guru Ryan Davis) or with extremely well crafted > trolling. > > I see the trouble that ruby-talk is having with him and I wondered firstly, > if we would have similar trouble moderating his crap (he alternates between > email, usenet and forums. Apparently they can't moderate him) and secondly, > if/when he turns up here can we please shoot him down the instant he > arrives. > > Ok, as I'm writing this it does seem that I'm going a little crazy, but I > consider this list my home. I love this list and the people on it..I don't > post that much these days but I have learned a lot. When I do post, I get > very helpful replies and I know you're good people. I would just hate for > this guy to come on here and wreck the joint. > > Take this as you will, drunken ramblings or well-meant concern :) > > Matt > > Matt, I'm sure your concerns are well intentioned so let's assume for the sake of conversation that there was going to be a problem. I've been a member of this list for (I think) 11 or 12 years now. I know of no case (made public anyway) where a specific individual has been banned. It's always been the receiver's requirements (you and me) to blacklist the individual if we don't like what they say. That's not to say that whoever moderates the server couldn't do something. I simply don't know that anyone ever has taken a step quite that drastic. - Mark
[gentoo-user] OT: future moderation
Hi list, An odd post here but I'm sitting up after midnight with a few beers and I wanted to get an advanced word on this. I don't know if anyone is subscribed to the ruby-talk mailing list at the moment (or used to be on the comp.lang.lisp group a while ago). There is an odd character there who is harming the community by either being insane (not my words -- those of ruby guru Ryan Davis) or with extremely well crafted trolling. I see the trouble that ruby-talk is having with him and I wondered firstly, if we would have similar trouble moderating his crap (he alternates between email, usenet and forums. Apparently they can't moderate him) and secondly, if/when he turns up here can we please shoot him down the instant he arrives. Ok, as I'm writing this it does seem that I'm going a little crazy, but I consider this list my home. I love this list and the people on it..I don't post that much these days but I have learned a lot. When I do post, I get very helpful replies and I know you're good people. I would just hate for this guy to come on here and wreck the joint. Take this as you will, drunken ramblings or well-meant concern :) Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] "universal" CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/CHOST for 64bit (AMD64 & EMT64T)?
Am 11.06.2011 17:25, schrieb Jarry: > Hi, > how should I change/set CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/CHOST if I want to have > system which can be easily migrated between AMD64 and Intel/Core > without recompilation? I have a few virtual servers which I can > not move from one arch to the other, as they have hw-specific > CFLAGS (different host-server hardware, both AMD64 and EM64T): > > I have systems with Athlon64/X2 and Core2Quad, with settings: > CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe" > CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe" > CHOST is always "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu". > > I'm not sure "-mtune=generic" is the right solution, because > it would generate code for IA32/AMD64/EM64T (if I understand > gcc manual correctly, for both 32bit as well as 64bit HW). > > What I'm looking for are some generic 64bit settings only for > AMD64/EM64T (not 32bit/IA32) similar as for distros with binary > distributions (i.e. I can download Ubuntu either 32bit or 64bit > version, no other hardware-specific difference). I know with > "universal" 64bit binaries I'm going to loose some pefrormance, > but for me flexibility with migration would overweight this > disadvantage... > > Jarry > Unless you specify -m32, your x86_64 gcc will create generic x86_64 code. That means it will use the common AMD64/EM64T instruction set which also includes SSE2 instructions. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] RE: Problem emerge-ing sys-apps/iproute2-2.6.37
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:40:00 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >The patch on that bug fixed the problem for me, just drop it > >into /etc/portage/patches/sys-apps/iproute2. > > > > Eh? You can do that?? Oh yes, at least with portage 2.2. > That's news to me... all this time I dropped patches into /usr/portage, > and followed with an ebuild digest... > > After dropping the patch there, do I need to do anything else? No, no patching ebuilds or digesting, portage automatically applies the patches. -- Neil Bothwick Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] "universal" CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/CHOST for 64bit (AMD64 & EMT64T)?
Hi, how should I change/set CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/CHOST if I want to have system which can be easily migrated between AMD64 and Intel/Core without recompilation? I have a few virtual servers which I can not move from one arch to the other, as they have hw-specific CFLAGS (different host-server hardware, both AMD64 and EM64T): I have systems with Athlon64/X2 and Core2Quad, with settings: CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe" CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe" CHOST is always "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu". I'm not sure "-mtune=generic" is the right solution, because it would generate code for IA32/AMD64/EM64T (if I understand gcc manual correctly, for both 32bit as well as 64bit HW). What I'm looking for are some generic 64bit settings only for AMD64/EM64T (not 32bit/IA32) similar as for distros with binary distributions (i.e. I can download Ubuntu either 32bit or 64bit version, no other hardware-specific difference). I know with "universal" 64bit binaries I'm going to loose some pefrormance, but for me flexibility with migration would overweight this disadvantage... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird
* pk [110611 06:09]: > On 2011-06-10 19:39, Todd Goodman wrote: > > > Please keep bullshit libtard rude remarks out of Linux mailing list, > > thank you. > > With the risk of starting a flame war: > > I would like to remind you that this is quite an international list; > thus the american views of what's right or not may seem a bit > "otherworldly" to us not from the US. Some of you seem to be living a > life from a (really bad) western movie... And to be really "frank" your > remark seems to me _at least_ as inflammatory as Nikos and he's right in > that this is a gentoo user list which messages should at least have some > sort of relation to gentoo and not political views, right? > > Best regards > > Peter K Indeed there are many countries and continents represented and many different views within each. To be "frank," I was responding to his hypocrisy of saying that a Gentoo mailing list should not include political views (rightly so in my opinion) while espousing condescending political views himself (which you so kindly cut from the email, however my reply was almost exactly the same word for word as his.) I'm now done replying to this thread so everyone who wishes to get in the last word may have a go at it. Med väiga häningar, Todd
[gentoo-user] RE: Problem emerge-ing sys-apps/iproute2-2.6.37
-original message- Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem emerge-ing sys-apps/iproute2-2.6.37 From: Neil Bothwick Date: 2011-06-11 17:15 >On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:34:42 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> Nevermind. It's Bug 370793 >> ( http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370793 ) > >The patch on that bug fixed the problem for me, just drop it >into /etc/portage/patches/sys-apps/iproute2. > Eh? You can do that?? That's news to me... all this time I dropped patches into /usr/portage, and followed with an ebuild digest... After dropping the patch there, do I need to do anything else? Always something new -- and fun -- to learn about Gentoo everyday :) Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Sent from Nokia E72-1
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird
On 11/06/11 11:36, pk wrote: > On 2011-06-10 19:39, Todd Goodman wrote: > >> Please keep bullshit libtard rude remarks out of Linux mailing list, >> thank you. > With the risk of starting a flame war: > > I would like to remind you that this is quite an international list; > thus the american views of what's right or not may seem a bit > "otherworldly" to us not from the US. Some of you seem to be living a > life from a (really bad) western movie... And to be really "frank" your > remark seems to me _at least_ as inflammatory as Nikos and he's right in > that this is a gentoo user list which messages should at least have some > sort of relation to gentoo and not political views, right? > > Best regards > > Peter K +1
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird
On 2011-06-10 19:39, Todd Goodman wrote: > Please keep bullshit libtard rude remarks out of Linux mailing list, > thank you. With the risk of starting a flame war: I would like to remind you that this is quite an international list; thus the american views of what's right or not may seem a bit "otherworldly" to us not from the US. Some of you seem to be living a life from a (really bad) western movie... And to be really "frank" your remark seems to me _at least_ as inflammatory as Nikos and he's right in that this is a gentoo user list which messages should at least have some sort of relation to gentoo and not political views, right? Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem emerge-ing sys-apps/iproute2-2.6.37
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:34:42 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Nevermind. It's Bug 370793 > ( http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370793 ) The patch on that bug fixed the problem for me, just drop it into /etc/portage/patches/sys-apps/iproute2. -- Neil Bothwick "Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does." Scott Adams, Dilbert comic signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:39:09 -0400, Pot wrote: > > Please keep bullshit out of a technical Linux mailing list, thank you. > > > Please keep bullshit libtard rude remarks out of Linux mailing list, > thank you. -- Neil Bothwick RISC: Reduced Into Silly Code signature.asc Description: PGP signature
