Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.4: driver issue or hardware issue?

2012-06-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Michael Scherer
a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:11:35 -0400
 Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Michael Scherer
 a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote:
  - Original Message - From: Andrey Moshbear
  andrey@gmail.com To: gentoo-user
  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Tuesday, 22 May, 2012 08:02
  Subject: [gentoo-user] Issues with
  =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.4: driver issue or hardware issue?
 
 
 
  Lately, I've been having some issues with segfaults when running
  startx and it's been pretty persistent.
 
  Xorg.0.log and emerge --info are available at
  https://gist.github.com/2766926 .
  Kernel config is available at https://gist.github.com/276943 .
 
  I've tried downgrading, but =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.2
  fails to compile due to incomplete structs.
 
  Is this more a driver or a hardware issue?
 
 
  first thing thing is your usage of ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 ~amd64.
  with ~amd64 you globally
  allow all packages masked for amd64. unless you are a
  developer/tester for gentoo you should remove
  this keyword, because gentoo usually has good reasons to mask some
  packages. if for some reason you
  really need a masked package, you can do this easily only for that
  package. global unmasking alone might be the reason for half of
  your troubles.
 
  second, it is advisable to use kernel modesetting, which is
  obviously not enabled. gentoo has a detailed
  howto for this under http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml.
  this gives you all necessary details.
 
  just a quick shot for the moment. your kernel config doesn't under
  the link you give, I'd like to see that
  too, and maybe /etc/X11/xorg.conf or the contents
  of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, if you have any of these,
 
 
 

 Well, I added radeon drm  modesetting and the kernel is crashing
 right after the microcode is loaded, but without any signs of panic,
 be it flashing keyboard lights or kernel backtrace with register
 values.

 Also, the segfault was caused by the DRI code interpreting a DRI
 opcode as a pointer, hence 0xa4 or similar in the back trace.


 in any case, I'd need some more information:
 the link to your .config is broken, I only get an empty page.
 if the kernel is involved, output of dmesg and rc.log would
 be needed to.

Here's the .config of the kernel which crashed when loading the radeon
microcode: http://servbox.moshbear.net/r9k-3.3.6-pf-.config.txt

On 3.3.6, dmesg did tend to fill up with uvesafb: mode switch failed
(eax=0x34f, err=0). Trying again with default settings.

Also, I'm unsure how use of userspace modeseting contributes to X's
drm code confusing an opcode for a pointer.

xorg.conf is blank since X's hardware detection is sufficiently
functional to not require a xorg.conf.


 by the way, did you anything with your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS?
 if not, the best thing would be set it simply = (and
 afterwards --update world, --depclean and revdep-rebuild),
 but that's up to you.

I use ~amd64 because I like having everything be recent. Otherwise, it
tends to feel a bit like a fast version of debian. That, and 99.9%
functionality is enough. I've been able to fix almost all issues that
arise by means of google - this one is simply proving to be tricky.



Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.4: driver issue or hardware issue?

2012-06-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Michael Scherer
a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:11:35 -0400
 Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Michael Scherer
 a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote:
  - Original Message - From: Andrey Moshbear
  andrey@gmail.com To: gentoo-user
  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Tuesday, 22 May, 2012 08:02
  Subject: [gentoo-user] Issues with
  =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.4: driver issue or hardware issue?
 
 
 
  Lately, I've been having some issues with segfaults when running
  startx and it's been pretty persistent.
 
  Xorg.0.log and emerge --info are available at
  https://gist.github.com/2766926 .
  Kernel config is available at https://gist.github.com/276943 .
 
  I've tried downgrading, but =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.2
  fails to compile due to incomplete structs.
 
  Is this more a driver or a hardware issue?
 
 
  first thing thing is your usage of ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 ~amd64.
  with ~amd64 you globally
  allow all packages masked for amd64. unless you are a
  developer/tester for gentoo you should remove
  this keyword, because gentoo usually has good reasons to mask some
  packages. if for some reason you
  really need a masked package, you can do this easily only for that
  package. global unmasking alone might be the reason for half of
  your troubles.
 
  second, it is advisable to use kernel modesetting, which is
  obviously not enabled. gentoo has a detailed
  howto for this under http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml.
  this gives you all necessary details.
 
  just a quick shot for the moment. your kernel config doesn't under
  the link you give, I'd like to see that
  too, and maybe /etc/X11/xorg.conf or the contents
  of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, if you have any of these,
 
  regards, nichael
 
 

 Well, I added radeon drm  modesetting and the kernel is crashing
 right after the microcode is loaded, but without any signs of panic,
 be it flashing keyboard lights or kernel backtrace with register
 values.

 Also, the segfault was caused by the DRI code interpreting a DRI
 opcode as a pointer, hence 0xa4 or similar in the back trace.

 --
 m0shbear


 in any case, I'd need some more information:
 the link to your .config is broken, I only get an empty page.
 if the kernel is involved, output of dmesg and rc.log would
 be needed to.

 by the way, did you anything with your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS?
 if not, the best thing would be set it simply = (and
 afterwards --update world, --depclean and revdep-rebuild),
 but that's up to you.

 please send me the requested information, otherwise it's
 difficult to find out what's wrong.


Also, I've noticed that that radeon.ko autodetection configures it as
a RS780, whereas, according to motherboard documentation, it should be
RS880 (780G vs 785G).
This may be a reason for crashing, since the video card dies due to
being supplied bad microcode.



Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.4: driver issue or hardware issue?

2012-06-07 Thread Michael Scherer
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:52:35 -0400
Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Michael Scherer
 a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote:
  On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:11:35 -0400
  Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Michael Scherer
  a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote:
   - Original Message - From: Andrey Moshbear
   andrey@gmail.com To: gentoo-user
   gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Tuesday, 22 May, 2012 08:02
   Subject: [gentoo-user] Issues with
   =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.4: driver issue or hardware
   issue?
  
  
  
   Lately, I've been having some issues with segfaults when running
   startx and it's been pretty persistent.
  
   Xorg.0.log and emerge --info are available at
   https://gist.github.com/2766926 .
   Kernel config is available at https://gist.github.com/276943 .
  
   I've tried downgrading, but =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.14.2
   fails to compile due to incomplete structs.
  
   Is this more a driver or a hardware issue?
  
  
   first thing thing is your usage of ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
   ~amd64. with ~amd64 you globally
   allow all packages masked for amd64. unless you are a
   developer/tester for gentoo you should remove
   this keyword, because gentoo usually has good reasons to mask
   some packages. if for some reason you
   really need a masked package, you can do this easily only for
   that package. global unmasking alone might be the reason for
   half of your troubles.
  
   second, it is advisable to use kernel modesetting, which is
   obviously not enabled. gentoo has a detailed
   howto for this under
   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml. this gives you all
   necessary details.
  
   just a quick shot for the moment. your kernel config doesn't
   under the link you give, I'd like to see that
   too, and maybe /etc/X11/xorg.conf or the contents
   of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, if you have any of these,
  
   regards, nichael
  
  
 
  Well, I added radeon drm  modesetting and the kernel is crashing
  right after the microcode is loaded, but without any signs of
  panic, be it flashing keyboard lights or kernel backtrace with
  register values.
 
  Also, the segfault was caused by the DRI code interpreting a DRI
  opcode as a pointer, hence 0xa4 or similar in the back trace.
 
  --
  m0shbear
 
 
  in any case, I'd need some more information:
  the link to your .config is broken, I only get an empty page.
  if the kernel is involved, output of dmesg and rc.log would
  be needed to.
 
  by the way, did you anything with your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS?
  if not, the best thing would be set it simply = (and
  afterwards --update world, --depclean and revdep-rebuild),
  but that's up to you.
 
  please send me the requested information, otherwise it's
  difficult to find out what's wrong.
 
 
 Also, I've noticed that that radeon.ko autodetection configures it as
 a RS780, whereas, according to motherboard documentation, it should be
 RS880 (780G vs 785G).
 This may be a reason for crashing, since the video card dies due to
 being supplied bad microcode.
 

according to the gentoo manual, under device drivers-graphics-
support for framebufferdevices you should uncheck
-everything- except enable video mode handling helpers.
instead of uvesafb in the kernel parameters you may use
radeondrmfb, if anything at all.

from the Xorg radeon page:
First of all check that you don't load radeonfb, uvesafb or vesafb
module. This includes no vga parameters for kernel when using KMS.
Console is provided by fbcon and radeondrmfb frame buffer console. So
it is best to make sure that fbcon module is loaded

disabling vesa also should rid you of uvesa messages in Xorg.0.log.

the rs880 and configuring as rs780 is indeed probably at the root
of your troubles. seems that you got the wrong firmware. I have
found other postings with the exact same problem, but as yet
no clear solution. I'll see what I can find and let you know.

regards, michael




Re: [gentoo-user] Lockdown: free/open OS maker pays Microsoft ransom for the right to boot on users' computers

2012-06-07 Thread Stroller

On 7 June 2012, at 00:50, William Kenworthy wrote:
 ...
 I dont mean cpu power management, I meant under the kernel config option
 which you may not have enabled. As for the Dell iDREC, google it.
 
 This stuff is old in enterprise equipment, and I suspect not widely
 used but it is out there.

Did you mean Dell DRAC? 

This is not obsolete at all, although in current models it is branded iDRAC.

I don't believe DRAC remote access is really related to IPMI, however.
I'm pretty sure that IPMI will work with a PowerEdge even lacking the DRAC 
module.

OP is taking about having a laptop, anyway, so that seems like a clupea rubra.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] USE=jpeg not part of hardened/linux/x86 profile

2012-06-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of my desktops runs a hardened profile:

 # eselect profile list
 Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/x86/10.0
  [2]   default/linux/x86/10.0/selinux
  [3]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop
  [4]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/gnome
  [5]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/kde
  [6]   default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
  [7]   default/linux/x86/10.0/server
  [8]   hardened/linux/x86 *
  [9]   hardened/linux/x86/selinux

 I noticed USE=jpeg is not enabled by default so I took a look around
 and noticed these:

 # locate hardened/linux/x86
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/10.0
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/desktop
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/developer
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/minimal
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/server

 Why can't I eselect a profile like hardened/linux/x86/desktop which
 would hopefully have more desktop-oriented USE defaults than
 hardened/linux/x86?

I have never used hardened and am not in any way informed about it,
but I seem to recall reading that hardened on desktop was not
supported and that it is primarily intended for use on servers.

Maybe that profile is masked. You may still be able to use it by
manually updating your profile symlink (rather than having eselect do
it for you).



[gentoo-user] resume_list.py

2012-06-07 Thread Thanasis
I used to use this python script to display the packages that would be
emerged when using the --resume option. But it does't work with
python3.2 interpreter:

~ # cat resume_list.py
import portage

resume_list=portage.mtimedb[resume][mergelist]

for i in range(len(resume_list)):
print =+resume_list[i][2]
~ #
~ # python ~/resume_list.py
  File /root/resume_list.py, line 6
print =+resume_list[i][2]
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
~ #

Q: Is there a way to make it work with python3.2 ?



Re: [gentoo-user] resume_list.py

2012-06-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote:
 I used to use this python script to display the packages that would be
 emerged when using the --resume option. But it does't work with
 python3.2 interpreter:

 ~ # cat resume_list.py
 import portage

 resume_list=portage.mtimedb[resume][mergelist]

 for i in range(len(resume_list)):
        print =+resume_list[i][2]
 ~ #
 ~ # python ~/resume_list.py
  File /root/resume_list.py, line 6
    print =+resume_list[i][2]
            ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 ~ #

 Q: Is there a way to make it work with python3.2 ?


I believe parentheses are mandatory for print function in python 3.x.
So try to change it to:
print(=+resume_list[i][2])

Disclaimer: I do not know python. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] resume_list.py

2012-06-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote:
 I used to use this python script to display the packages that would be
 emerged when using the --resume option. But it does't work with
 python3.2 interpreter:

 ~ # cat resume_list.py
 import portage

 resume_list=portage.mtimedb[resume][mergelist]

 for i in range(len(resume_list)):
        print =+resume_list[i][2]
 ~ #
 ~ # python ~/resume_list.py
  File /root/resume_list.py, line 6
    print =+resume_list[i][2]
            ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 ~ #

 Q: Is there a way to make it work with python3.2 ?


In Python 3.x, 'print' is a function, not a builtin. So it'd be

print( blah )

instead of

print blah

There are standard scripts out there for converting between py2 and py3, FWIW.

-- 
:wq



SOLVED [gentoo-user] resume_list.py

2012-06-07 Thread Thanasis
on 06/07/2012 09:37 PM Paul Hartman wrote the following:
 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote:
 I used to use this python script to display the packages that would be
 emerged when using the --resume option. But it does't work with
 python3.2 interpreter:

 ~ # cat resume_list.py
 import portage

 resume_list=portage.mtimedb[resume][mergelist]

 for i in range(len(resume_list)):
print =+resume_list[i][2]
 ~ #
 ~ # python ~/resume_list.py
  File /root/resume_list.py, line 6
print =+resume_list[i][2]
^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 ~ #

 Q: Is there a way to make it work with python3.2 ?

 
 I believe parentheses are mandatory for print function in python 3.x.
 So try to change it to:
 print(=+resume_list[i][2])
 
 Disclaimer: I do not know python. :)
 


That was it!
Thanks!



Re: [gentoo-user] resume_list.py

2012-06-07 Thread Thanasis
on 06/07/2012 09:41 PM Michael Mol wrote the following:
 
 In Python 3.x, 'print' is a function, not a builtin. So it'd be
 
 print( blah )
 
 instead of
 
 print blah
 
 There are standard scripts out there for converting between py2 and py3, FWIW.
 

Correct!  Thanks!



[gentoo-user] [OT] USB hard drive puzzle

2012-06-07 Thread walt
I have an add-on usb3 adapter (based on ASMedia ASM1042 usb chip, using xhci
kernel driver), which I dearly love except for one very annoying 'feature' ;)

When I power up the outboard hard-disk docking station (plugged into the usb3
adapter) the computer never sees the docking station or its hard disk until
I reboot the computer.  Something in the BIOS apparently resets some hardware
thingy, and then it all works extremely well thereafter.

Having to reboot the computer to use a usb docking station kinda defeats the
whole point of usb. (Or am I just being grumpy? :)

Can anyone think of some trick I could use in lieu of rebooting to get the
adapter/disk combination properly initialized?

Any hints would be very much appreciated.




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] USB hard drive puzzle

2012-06-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:53:53 -0700, walt wrote:

 When I power up the outboard hard-disk docking station (plugged into
 the usb3 adapter) the computer never sees the docking station or its
 hard disk until I reboot the computer.  Something in the BIOS
 apparently resets some hardware thingy, and then it all works extremely
 well thereafter.
 
 Having to reboot the computer to use a usb docking station kinda
 defeats the whole point of usb. (Or am I just being grumpy? :)

There's nothing wrong with being grumpy.


 Can anyone think of some trick I could use in lieu of rebooting to get
 the adapter/disk combination properly initialized?

Does unloading and reloading the xhci module help?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Veni, vermini, vomui
I came, I got ratted, I threw up


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[gentoo-user] Firefox 13 and blank page

2012-06-07 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

I recently upgraded to firefox 13.
In the preferenced I had set When firefox starts to about:blank
and Home Page to about:blank. This had worked for several
versions.

Now -- after visiting a site -- a thumbnail of that site is shown
on the blank page now.

I had looked through my addons, what may be guilty for that and found
nothing.

How can I get back a really blank page again?

Thank you very much in advance!
Best regards,
mcc




Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 13 and blank page

2012-06-07 Thread Adam Carter
 I recently upgraded to firefox 13.
 In the preferenced I had set When firefox starts to about:blank
 and Home Page to about:blank. This had worked for several
 versions.

 Now -- after visiting a site -- a thumbnail of that site is shown
 on the blank page now.

Its a new feature of v13. When opening a new tab, users are now
presented with their most visited pages

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/13.0/releasenotes/



[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox 13 and blank page

2012-06-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/06/12 05:49, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

I recently upgraded to firefox 13.
In the preferenced I had set When firefox starts to about:blank
and Home Page to about:blank. This had worked for several
versions.

Now -- after visiting a site -- a thumbnail of that site is shown
on the blank page now.

I had looked through my addons, what may be guilty for that and found
nothing.

How can I get back a really blank page again?


That's the new blank page of FF13.  It's not a bug.  It's feature :-P




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox 13 and blank page

2012-06-07 Thread Bryan Gardiner
Also, there's a grid icon in the top right of the page that lets you
select a blank page instead.

Cheers,
Bryan


On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:36:45 +0300
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 08/06/12 05:49, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I recently upgraded to firefox 13.
  In the preferenced I had set When firefox starts to about:blank
  and Home Page to about:blank. This had worked for several
  versions.
 
  Now -- after visiting a site -- a thumbnail of that site is shown
  on the blank page now.
 
  I had looked through my addons, what may be guilty for that and
  found nothing.
 
  How can I get back a really blank page again?
 
 That's the new blank page of FF13.  It's not a bug.  It's
 feature :-P
 
 




Re: [gentoo-user] USE=jpeg not part of hardened/linux/x86 profile

2012-06-07 Thread Grant
 One of my desktops runs a hardened profile:

 # eselect profile list
 Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/x86/10.0
  [2]   default/linux/x86/10.0/selinux
  [3]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop
  [4]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/gnome
  [5]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/kde
  [6]   default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
  [7]   default/linux/x86/10.0/server
  [8]   hardened/linux/x86 *
  [9]   hardened/linux/x86/selinux

 I noticed USE=jpeg is not enabled by default so I took a look around
 and noticed these:

 # locate hardened/linux/x86
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/10.0
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/desktop
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/developer
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/minimal
 /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/server

 Why can't I eselect a profile like hardened/linux/x86/desktop which
 would hopefully have more desktop-oriented USE defaults than
 hardened/linux/x86?

 I have never used hardened and am not in any way informed about it,
 but I seem to recall reading that hardened on desktop was not
 supported and that it is primarily intended for use on servers.

Can anyone confirm that a hardened profile is only supported for
servers?  I'm seeking a more desktop-friendly hardened profile but I
don't want to use an unsupported one.

- Grant

 Maybe that profile is masked. You may still be able to use it by
 manually updating your profile symlink (rather than having eselect do
 it for you).