Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem recommendation for external media storage
On 27/06/2013 03:33, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 06:40:02PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > Windows compatibility is not a must, but a nice-to-have. That would reduce my remaining choices to ExFAT, I presume. >>> >> >> BTW: What's the Linux status on that one? > > Well, the German Wikipedia says that a stable 1.0 came out in January. > It’s “only” a FUSE fs, but so is NTFS. I’ll do some testing with it. > >>> That's how I see it too. >>> >>> I used to use ext4 for external media but quickly found that my notebook >>> was the only box that could use them... >> >> Isn't group id 100 defined as the users group on most Linuxen nowadays? >> >> chgrp 100 $mount && chmod 2777 $mount > > That still leaves UID. I want it to “just work”[TM] and never encounter > any problems when I can least use them, and never have to check any file > attributes. > >> should work reasonably well. >> >> Regards, >> Florian Philipp > > I’ll keep the uid and gid bit on the stack. I would disable the x bit > though. Executables are lime in DIR_COLORS, overriding every other > colouring (e.g. red archive, green text and purple media files). *g* > > I’m more concerned about the behaviour of automounters. And I faintly > remember some user-centric setting as to what the default chmod of new > files is, so I would have to do some chmod -R from time to time. > The Unix filesystem model simply does not allow you to do that easily - it is designed to do something else entirely and do that thing well You can't even override the uid/gid/perms at mount time. The central premise is that the user must set those values on his own files whenever he wants to and the rest of the universe must fall into line with those wishes... Look at what it takes to do something simple like set the default perms on a new file in a shared directory to be 664 - you need to get dirty with POSIX ACLs, and then a simple umask run in a shell session overrules all of that. exfat does what you want - it was designed to "just work" on the very large removeable media we have nowadays (think 7G movie files) and bypass all the nonsense like "does the user that created this file even exist on the machine that is reading it?" It also works pretty well -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Intel SRT + SSD + SATA
On 26/06/2013 16:28, Mick wrote: > I have this card: > >*-display > description: VGA compatible controller > product: RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670] > vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI > physical id: 0 > bus info: pci@:02:00.0 > version: 00 > width: 32 bits > clock: 33MHz > capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master > cap_list rom > configuration: driver=radeon latency=0 > resources: irq:45 memory:d000-dfff > ioport:2000(size=256) memory:cfef-cfef memory:cfe0-cfe1 > > and have this little file auto-switching my video cards fan from running non- > stop: > > cat /etc/local.d/set_radeon_power_profile.start > echo auto > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile I did try that once, and somehow it went horribly wrong - the machine became *very* unresponsive to keyboard and mouse, as if it was applying huge amounts of CPU throttling (not freq scaling) So I gave up. I never use this machine as a classic laptop anyway, to me it's a desk workstation that I can suspend and carry home in a backpack with ease, so it's always plugged into power to use :-) I only ever need the battery for maximum 20 minutes in review meetings every two weeks, so I just kinda learned to live with it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem recommendation for external media storage
On 26/06/2013 17:59, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:22:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I used to use ext4 for external media but quickly found that my notebook >> was the only box that could use them... > > You could use ACLs to make everything world read/writeable. > > Sledgehammer, meet nut :) I have a pathological inability to type chomod 666 Everytime I try it a background watchdog process in my brain kicks in and a few million more neurons die a nasty death :-) > >> exfat ticks more boxes than any other option > > Makes sense to me too > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem recommendation for external media storage
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 10:23:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > You could use ACLs to make everything world read/writeable. > > > > Sledgehammer, meet nut :) > > I have a pathological inability to type chomod 666 > > Everytime I try it a background watchdog process in my brain kicks in > and a few million more neurons die a nasty death :-) Use an alias :P -- Neil Bothwick Ultimate memory manager; Windows, it manages to use it all.. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Intel SRT + SSD + SATA
On Thursday 27 Jun 2013 09:19:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 26/06/2013 16:28, Mick wrote: > > cat /etc/local.d/set_radeon_power_profile.start > > echo auto > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile > > I did try that once, and somehow it went horribly wrong - the machine > became *very* unresponsive to keyboard and mouse, as if it was applying > huge amounts of CPU throttling (not freq scaling) Hmm ... interesting. I do not get any such problems. I have set up /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method to 'profile' and power_profile to 'auto' as shown above and the fan behaviour is comparable to MSWindows. Are you sure you did not try 'low' instead of 'auto'? Perhaps leaving power_profile at default and using 'dynpm' at power_method may work better? Have a look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Intel SRT + SSD + SATA
On 27/06/2013 12:00, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 27 Jun 2013 09:19:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 26/06/2013 16:28, Mick wrote: > >>> cat /etc/local.d/set_radeon_power_profile.start >>> echo auto > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile >> >> I did try that once, and somehow it went horribly wrong - the machine >> became *very* unresponsive to keyboard and mouse, as if it was applying >> huge amounts of CPU throttling (not freq scaling) > > Hmm ... interesting. I do not get any such problems. I have set up > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method to 'profile' and power_profile to > 'auto' as shown above and the fan behaviour is comparable to MSWindows. Are > you sure you did not try 'low' instead of 'auto'? > > Perhaps leaving power_profile at default and using 'dynpm' at power_method > may > work better? Have a look here: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI > I'll give that a try. I may have just had bad luck back when or even done it wrong. I don't *really* need this to work, I only brought it up because the OCD engineer in me freaks out with optimizations I find I can't use. And also because many other folk do need maximum battery life -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem recommendation for external media storage
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:13:55AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > exfat does what you want - it was designed to "just work" on the very > large removeable media we have nowadays (think 7G movie files) and > bypass all the nonsense like "does the user that created this file even > exist on the machine that is reading it?" > > It also works pretty well Hm.. there seems to be one problem for me: I installed exfat-utils and there is no resize utility. Since the media partition will be the biggest, and other partitions will be added later (whose size I don’t know yet), resizing would be crucial. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service. Just don’t ignore it. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 compile error. Clock_gettime
Samuli Suominen wrote: > > sys-fs/udev-197, 200, 204. --- will install to / instead of /usr so it > will work with sep. /usr just like eudev does, or just like udev-171 > used to > > basically the only thing to look out for is the network interface > names, you can add extra entry to grub that boots with net.ifnames=0 > kernel parameter, or create empty file > /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules if you don't like the new names > > Someone else ran into the same thing and it appears they use udev. So switching wouldn't help anyway. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370217 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey/Firefox not closing processes
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > < SNIP >> > > Is this a bug or some setting I missed somewhere? If a bug, whose > package should I file it against? > > Also, when I close one and restart, I have to kill the process that is > still running. Is there anyway to tell what process goes with which > session? > > Thanks much. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Did a emerge -e world, with lvm2 failing to recompile, and the issues seems to be fixed. I have closed a few times with no problems restarting the browsers. So, something must have been out of sync somehow and I don't know of any way to find out what it was. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem recommendation for external media storage
On 06/27/2013 10:13:55 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: exfat does what you want - it was designed to "just work" on the very large removeable media we have nowadays (think 7G movie files) and bypass all the nonsense like "does the user that created this file even exist on the machine that is reading it?" It also works pretty well Hi, my comment might be completely off topic, but it might, as well, be a serious warning. I have a Garmin GPS device which has an internal storage of 4GB and an additional SD card with a capacity of 32 GB. The device can be attached to a USB port. Now, when looking from (a virtual) Windows 7 OS, the file systems on both of these are reported as FAT 32. In addition running CHKDSK doesn't reveal any problems. Looking from my native GenToo (on the very same hardware, without Windows running), the smaller 4GB file system looks just nice (files and meta data being identical to what Windows has reported) The larger file system (declared as vfat in /etc/fstab) gets mounted without any problems. But an 'ls' commands shows question marks all over the place except for few single characters. In addition, in the beginning, when there were less than 4GB data on that SD card, the file system looked just fine under Linux, as well. Only afterwards, like now, when it holds more than 20GB data, I cannot use it any more from my Gentoo system. Does anybody have an idea what's going on or where to report this bug? Many thanks, Helmut. P.S. I have tried to mount that file system as exFAT under GenToo but that was rejected.
[gentoo-user] Heads up kde users - mysql-5.5.32
In unstable systems mysql-5.5.32 borks akonadi->kdepim and amarok: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7336520.html#7336520 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474964 If any knows a solution, please let me know! -- Andrés Becerra Sandoval
Re: [gentoo-user] Heads up kde users - mysql-5.5.32
On Thursday 27 Jun 2013 19:51:10 Andrés Becerra Sandoval wrote: > In unstable systems mysql-5.5.32 borks akonadi->kdepim and amarok: > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7336520.html#7336520 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474964 > > If any knows a solution, please let me know! I was about to have another rant about KDE4 and its hardwired semantic database design concept, but this won't help any. ;-) So, have you tried postgresql? http://tokoe-kde.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/akonadi-and-postgresql.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2009/04/msg00061.html -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
