Re: [gentoo-user] Mail System with virtuell User

2013-09-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.09.2013 02:12, schrieb Silvio Siefke:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> has someone run a Mailserver (Postfix) with virtuell User which not 
> use Mysql/Postgresql Database Backen? I has read the Dovecot / Postfix 
> Websites which has Howtos for No Database but so really want not run. 
> 
> The most Howto i found are for Mysql and on Debian. Gentoo is not use
> as Web/Mailserver? I found only the wiki from Gentoo but is only use 
> with Database. Has someone a config and can shared or know someone a
> Tutorial which can take as first step to install?

You can also setup postfix and dovecot to work with virtual users
without a DB .. although it is somewhat harder to maintain IMO. postfix
reads textfiles easily ... dovecot is also very flexible ... it all
depends on what number of users to provide if a no-DB-setup makes sense.

Why do you want to avoid it?

Your email suggests you are from germany ... I recommend "Das
Postfix-Buch" by Peer Heinlein for a start.

Nothing gentoo-specific here ... no reason not to use gentoo as a
mailserver (I do that for years, although with mysql).

Stefan





Re: [gentoo-user] Python Imaging/Pillow

2013-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/09/2013 03:03, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:26:45 +0200 Alan McKinnon
>  wrote:
> 
>> Your only real choices are to uninstall openshot until the sabayon
>> devs fix their ebuild, or to fix the ebuild yourself. But there is no
>> portage magic that can work around these blockers right now.
> 
> Mmh thats shit because is no alternative present to openshot. Normal is
> Sabayon Gentoo Clone so they should fix the ebuild. I were there ask
> what they say and decide then. 
> 
> Openshot as other overlay or Gentoo Ebuild will not give or?
> 
> 
> Thank you & Greetings
> Silvio
> 


I'm not familiar with openshot at all, perhaps someone else knows of
another overlay you can use that does support pillow.

What I usually is download the sources by hand, run ./configure and see
if the app directly supports pillow and take it from there. A fix
usually just needs a few minor tweaks to the ebuild.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Python Imaging/Pillow

2013-09-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:26:45 +0200 Alan McKinnon
 wrote:

> Your only real choices are to uninstall openshot until the sabayon
> devs fix their ebuild, or to fix the ebuild yourself. But there is no
> portage magic that can work around these blockers right now.

Mmh thats shit because is no alternative present to openshot. Normal is
Sabayon Gentoo Clone so they should fix the ebuild. I were there ask
what they say and decide then. 

Openshot as other overlay or Gentoo Ebuild will not give or?


Thank you & Greetings
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] creating overlay to modify net-fs/samba-3.6.18

2013-09-11 Thread Timur Aydin
On 09/12/13 01:00, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Yes of course, it make a great deal of sense now. Basically, your local
> overlay had no idea where the parent portage tree is or how to find it
> so couldn't find the eclass directory.
> 
> As I understand it, this information used to be hard-coded magic and
> overlays would "just know where to look". Since recently, you have to
> configure it explicitly and not use hidden super-magic.
> 
> You would have been getting confusing messages in emerge output about a
> faulty masters setting for overlays, pity we didn't spot that up front.
> Double pity that there wasn't a clear message or news item about what
> the error meant and the impact

Thanks, Alan, for the great help! SAMBA is now up and running with my
custom changes...

--
Timur




Re: [gentoo-user] Python Imaging/Pillow

2013-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/09/2013 01:32, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:55:51 +0200 Alan McKinnon
>  wrote:
> 
>> Run "emerge -pvuDNt @world" to get a tree view of dependencies and see
>> what is really pulling in which package.
> 
> gentoomobile dwhelper # emerge -pvuDNt @world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [nomerge   ] app-text/calibre-1.2  USE="udisks" 
> [ebuild U  ]  virtual/python-imaging-2 [1] USE="-tk" 
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2* -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
> [ebuild U  ] net-analyzer/wireshark-1.10.2:0/1.10.2 [1.10.1:0/1.10.1] 
> USE="adns caps filecaps geoip ipv6 netlink pcap qt4 smi zlib -crypt* -doc 
> -doc-pdf -gtk2% -gtk3% -kerberos -libadns -lua -portaudio (-selinux) -ssl* 
> (-gtk%) (-profile%)" 26,043 kB
> [ebuild U  ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.310 [11.2.202.297-r1] 
> USE="64bit (multilib) sse2 -32bit (-debug) -kde (-selinux)" 7,066 kB
> [ebuildFU ~] dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:1.7 [1.7.0.25:1.7] USE="X 
> alsa fontconfig jce nsplugin -derby -doc -examples -pax_kernel -source" 
> 134,787 kB
> [ebuild U  ] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0 [1.20.2] USE="ipv6 pam static 
> -livecd -make-symlinks -math -mdev -savedconfig (-selinux) -sep-usr -syslog% 
> -systemd" 2,150 kB
> [nomerge   ] media-sound/puddletag-1.0.1-r1  USE="acoustid cover 
> musicbrainz quodlibet" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 
> [nomerge   ]  virtual/python-imaging-2 [1] USE="-tk" 
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2* -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 
> [ebuild  N ]   dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1  USE="jpeg lcms tiff truetype 
> zlib -doc -examples -scanner {-test} -tk -webp" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 
> python3_2 -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
> [blocks B  ] dev-python/imaging ("dev-python/imaging" is blocking 
> dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1)
> [blocks B  ] dev-python/pillow ("dev-python/pillow" is blocking 
> dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2)
> 
> Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 170,044 kB
> Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
> Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
> 
> Fetch instructions for dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:
>  * 
>  * Oracle requires you to download the needed files manually after
>  * accepting their license through a javascript capable web browser.
>  * 
>  * Download the following files:
>  *   jdk-7u40-linux-x64.tar.gz
>  * at 
> 'http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html'
>  * and move them to '/usr/portage/distfiles'
>  * 
> 
>  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>  * installed at the same time on the same system.
> 
>   (dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in 
> by
> 
> dev-python/pillow[tk?,python_targets_python2_6(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_2(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)]
>  
> (dev-python/pillow[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)])
>  required by (virtual/python-imaging-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
> 
>   (dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> dev-python/imaging required by (media-video/openshot-1.4.3::sabayon, 
> installed)



Mike Gilbert's answer earlier is exactly correct. The problem is
openshot from the sabayon overlay - it depends on python-imaging while
everything else depends on pillow.

These two things cannot both be installed at the same time. Hard-masking
pillow might work, but will probably just cause more and different
conflicts.

Your only real choices are to uninstall openshot until the sabayon devs
fix their ebuild, or to fix the ebuild yourself. But there is no portage
magic that can work around these blockers right now.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Hooray! Working nvidia-drivers for a recent kernel

2013-09-11 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Just in case someone is interested:

Finally, there is a version in portage of nvidia-drivers for recent kernels
and older cards.  I have a GeForce 7600, so I need to use version <310. Thus
I had been stuck with kernel 3.9 for a long time now.
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Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service.

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[gentoo-user] Mail System with virtuell User

2013-09-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,


has someone run a Mailserver (Postfix) with virtuell User which not 
use Mysql/Postgresql Database Backen? I has read the Dovecot / Postfix 
Websites which has Howtos for No Database but so really want not run. 

The most Howto i found are for Mysql and on Debian. Gentoo is not use
as Web/Mailserver? I found only the wiki from Gentoo but is only use 
with Database. Has someone a config and can shared or know someone a
Tutorial which can take as first step to install?


Thank you & Greetings
Silvio



[gentoo-user] [~amd64] Hint for bonehead systemd users (like me)

2013-09-11 Thread walt
I've been struggling with today's update of systemd on ~arch because the
ebuild keeps accusing me of using a "compatibility symlink to run systemd"
during bootup.

Yes, guilty as charged, I told grub2 to use /usr/bin/systemd as 'init', when
/usr/bin/systemd has been, until now, a symlink to /usr/lib/systemd/systemd.

Yes, I pled guilty to this crime and changed my /boot/grub2/grub.cfg to use
/usr/lib/systemd/systemd instead of /usr/bin/systemd -- and yet I got the
same condemnation every time I tried to emerge -auND world.

An additional glass of chardonnay didn't solve this frustration, so I dared
to read the systemd ebuild, which confessed that it reads the value of
/proc/1/cmdline to find me guilty and ignores my new /boot/grub2/grup.cfg,
which would have proved my innocence.

IOW, you must reboot after changing your grub.cfg before the ebuild will
withdraw it's accusation.

HTH someone avoid the same problem.

Cheers :)




Re: [gentoo-user] Python Imaging/Pillow

2013-09-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:55:51 +0200 Alan McKinnon
 wrote:

> Run "emerge -pvuDNt @world" to get a tree view of dependencies and see
> what is really pulling in which package.

gentoomobile dwhelper # emerge -pvuDNt @world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge   ] app-text/calibre-1.2  USE="udisks" 
[ebuild U  ]  virtual/python-imaging-2 [1] USE="-tk" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2* -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] net-analyzer/wireshark-1.10.2:0/1.10.2 [1.10.1:0/1.10.1] 
USE="adns caps filecaps geoip ipv6 netlink pcap qt4 smi zlib -crypt* -doc 
-doc-pdf -gtk2% -gtk3% -kerberos -libadns -lua -portaudio (-selinux) -ssl* 
(-gtk%) (-profile%)" 26,043 kB
[ebuild U  ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.310 [11.2.202.297-r1] 
USE="64bit (multilib) sse2 -32bit (-debug) -kde (-selinux)" 7,066 kB
[ebuildFU ~] dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:1.7 [1.7.0.25:1.7] USE="X 
alsa fontconfig jce nsplugin -derby -doc -examples -pax_kernel -source" 134,787 
kB
[ebuild U  ] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0 [1.20.2] USE="ipv6 pam static -livecd 
-make-symlinks -math -mdev -savedconfig (-selinux) -sep-usr -syslog% -systemd" 
2,150 kB
[nomerge   ] media-sound/puddletag-1.0.1-r1  USE="acoustid cover 
musicbrainz quodlibet" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 
[nomerge   ]  virtual/python-imaging-2 [1] USE="-tk" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2* -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 
[ebuild  N ]   dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1  USE="jpeg lcms tiff truetype 
zlib -doc -examples -scanner {-test} -tk -webp" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 
python3_2 -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
[blocks B  ] dev-python/imaging ("dev-python/imaging" is blocking 
dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1)
[blocks B  ] dev-python/pillow ("dev-python/pillow" is blocking 
dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2)

Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 170,044 kB
Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)

Fetch instructions for dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:
 * 
 * Oracle requires you to download the needed files manually after
 * accepting their license through a javascript capable web browser.
 * 
 * Download the following files:
 *   jdk-7u40-linux-x64.tar.gz
 * at 
'http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html'
 * and move them to '/usr/portage/distfiles'
 * 

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by

dev-python/pillow[tk?,python_targets_python2_6(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_2(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)]
 
(dev-python/pillow[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)])
 required by (virtual/python-imaging-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
dev-python/imaging required by (media-video/openshot-1.4.3::sabayon, 
installed)


For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked



Thank you & Greetings
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] Python Imaging/Pillow

2013-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/09/2013 23:39, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> i think Gentoo has block the imaging package. Now should use pillow. But
> the problem is that Openshot need imaging package. How should handle the
> Problem?

No, that is not quite what it says.

The blocker says that dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2 and
dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1 cannot both be installed at the same time
(they conflict with each other).

It looks like imaging and pillow both satisfy virtual/python-imaging but
openshot from sabayon depends on dev-python/imaging (not the virtual),
which is what is really causing all the trouble.

Normally one would unmerge pillow and merge imaging, but your output
shows something is causing pillow to be merged and we can't see what did
that.

Run "emerge -pvuDNt @world" to get a tree view of dependencies and see
what is really pulling in which package.


> 
> 
> Thank you for help & Greetings
> Silvio
> 
> gentoomobile siefke # emerge -avuDN @world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild U  ] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0 [1.20.2] USE="ipv6 pam static 
> -livecd -make-symlinks -math -mdev -savedconfig (-selinux) -sep-usr -syslog% 
> -systemd" 2,150 kB
> [ebuild  N ] dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1  USE="jpeg lcms tiff truetype 
> zlib -doc -examples -scanner {-test} -tk -webp" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 
> python3_2 -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
> [ebuild U  ] virtual/python-imaging-2 [1] USE="-tk" 
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2* -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
> [ebuild U  ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.310 [11.2.202.297-r1] 
> USE="64bit (multilib) sse2 -32bit (-debug) -kde (-selinux)" 7,066 kB
> [ebuildFU ~] dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:1.7 [1.7.0.25:1.7] USE="X 
> alsa fontconfig jce nsplugin -derby -doc -examples -pax_kernel -source" 
> 134,787 kB
> [ebuild U  ] net-analyzer/wireshark-1.10.2:0/1.10.2 [1.10.1:0/1.10.1] 
> USE="adns caps filecaps geoip ipv6 netlink pcap qt4 smi zlib -crypt* -doc 
> -doc-pdf -gtk2% -gtk3% -kerberos -libadns -lua -portaudio (-selinux) -ssl* 
> (-gtk%) (-profile%)" 26,043 kB
> [blocks B  ] dev-python/pillow ("dev-python/pillow" is blocking 
> dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2)
> [blocks B  ] dev-python/imaging ("dev-python/imaging" is blocking 
> dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1)
> 
> Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 170,044 kB
> Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
> Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
> 
> Fetch instructions for dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:
>  * 
>  * Oracle requires you to download the needed files manually after
>  * accepting their license through a javascript capable web browser.
>  * 
>  * Download the following files:
>  *   jdk-7u40-linux-x64.tar.gz
>  * at 
> 'http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html'
>  * and move them to '/usr/portage/distfiles'
>  * 
> 
>  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>  * installed at the same time on the same system.
> 
>   (dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in 
> by
> 
> dev-python/pillow[tk?,python_targets_python2_6(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_2(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)]
>  
> (dev-python/pillow[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)])
>  required by (virtual/python-imaging-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
> 
>   (dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> dev-python/imaging required by (media-video/openshot-1.4.3::sabayon, 
> installed)
> 
> 
> For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
> section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
> Thank you & Greetings
> Silvio
> 


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Python Imaging/Pillow

2013-09-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Silvio Siefke  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i think Gentoo has block the imaging package. Now should use pillow. But
> the problem is that Openshot need imaging package. How should handle the
> Problem?
>
>
> Thank you for help & Greetings
> Silvio
>
> gentoomobile siefke # emerge -avuDN @world
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild U  ] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0 [1.20.2] USE="ipv6 pam static 
> -livecd -make-symlinks -math -mdev -savedconfig (-selinux) -sep-usr -syslog% 
> -systemd" 2,150 kB
> [ebuild  N ] dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1  USE="jpeg lcms tiff truetype 
> zlib -doc -examples -scanner {-test} -tk -webp" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 
> python3_2 -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
> [ebuild U  ] virtual/python-imaging-2 [1] USE="-tk" 
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2* -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
> [ebuild U  ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.310 [11.2.202.297-r1] 
> USE="64bit (multilib) sse2 -32bit (-debug) -kde (-selinux)" 7,066 kB
> [ebuildFU ~] dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:1.7 [1.7.0.25:1.7] USE="X 
> alsa fontconfig jce nsplugin -derby -doc -examples -pax_kernel -source" 
> 134,787 kB
> [ebuild U  ] net-analyzer/wireshark-1.10.2:0/1.10.2 [1.10.1:0/1.10.1] 
> USE="adns caps filecaps geoip ipv6 netlink pcap qt4 smi zlib -crypt* -doc 
> -doc-pdf -gtk2% -gtk3% -kerberos -libadns -lua -portaudio (-selinux) -ssl* 
> (-gtk%) (-profile%)" 26,043 kB
> [blocks B  ] dev-python/pillow ("dev-python/pillow" is blocking 
> dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2)
> [blocks B  ] dev-python/imaging ("dev-python/imaging" is blocking 
> dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1)
>
> Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 170,044 kB
> Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
> Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
>
> Fetch instructions for dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:
>  *
>  * Oracle requires you to download the needed files manually after
>  * accepting their license through a javascript capable web browser.
>  *
>  * Download the following files:
>  *   jdk-7u40-linux-x64.tar.gz
>  * at 
> 'http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html'
>  * and move them to '/usr/portage/distfiles'
>  *
>
>  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>  * installed at the same time on the same system.
>
>   (dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in 
> by
> 
> dev-python/pillow[tk?,python_targets_python2_6(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_2(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)]
>  
> (dev-python/pillow[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)])
>  required by (virtual/python-imaging-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>
>   (dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> dev-python/imaging required by (media-video/openshot-1.4.3::sabayon, 
> installed)
>
>
> For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
> section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
> Thank you & Greetings
> Silvio
>

The problem is media-video/openshot::sabayon, which depends on
dev-python/imaging. We are currrently in the process of replacing this
with dev-python/pillow. Please report this to the Sabayon maintainers.



Re: [gentoo-user] creating overlay to modify net-fs/samba-3.6.18

2013-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/09/2013 22:46, Timur Aydin wrote:
> On 09/11/13 23:13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> I can't reproduce that fault here, and google hits on the matter seem to
>> point towards stale metadata referencing eclasses that no longer exist.
>> I have a hunch you do not have valid metadata for your local overlay, so
>> I suggest:
>>
>> 1. delete the eclass directory from your overlay, run "emerge
>> --metadata" and emerge samba again. See what that does.
> 
> I have tried this, and the same problem happened, where emerge
> complained that pam.eclass wasn't found.
> 
>> 2. Set PORTDIR_CACHE_METHOD and/or OVERLAY_CACHE_METHOD explicitly in
>> make.conf, the best reference for these is in the eix man page
> 
> While reading up on the various methods in the eix man page, I started
> to wonder whether a setting in /usr/local/portage/metadata/layout.conf
> was causing this problem. When testing, layout.conf had only a single
> entry, which was:
> 
> masters =
> 
> I remembered an error message from portage a while ago, which suggested
> setting this to "gentoo" for backward compatibility. I tried that, and
> the problem went away :) I was able to emerge samba from the overlay
> successfully. Does this make sense?



/headbang :-)

Yes of course, it make a great deal of sense now. Basically, your local
overlay had no idea where the parent portage tree is or how to find it
so couldn't find the eclass directory.

As I understand it, this information used to be hard-coded magic and
overlays would "just know where to look". Since recently, you have to
configure it explicitly and not use hidden super-magic.

You would have been getting confusing messages in emerge output about a
faulty masters setting for overlays, pity we didn't spot that up front.
Double pity that there wasn't a clear message or news item about what
the error meant and the impact


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Python Imaging/Pillow

2013-09-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, 

i think Gentoo has block the imaging package. Now should use pillow. But
the problem is that Openshot need imaging package. How should handle the
Problem?


Thank you for help & Greetings
Silvio

gentoomobile siefke # emerge -avuDN @world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U  ] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0 [1.20.2] USE="ipv6 pam static -livecd 
-make-symlinks -math -mdev -savedconfig (-selinux) -sep-usr -syslog% -systemd" 
2,150 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1  USE="jpeg lcms tiff truetype zlib 
-doc -examples -scanner {-test} -tk -webp" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2 
-python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] virtual/python-imaging-2 [1] USE="-tk" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2* -python2_6 (-python3_3)" 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.310 [11.2.202.297-r1] 
USE="64bit (multilib) sse2 -32bit (-debug) -kde (-selinux)" 7,066 kB
[ebuildFU ~] dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:1.7 [1.7.0.25:1.7] USE="X 
alsa fontconfig jce nsplugin -derby -doc -examples -pax_kernel -source" 134,787 
kB
[ebuild U  ] net-analyzer/wireshark-1.10.2:0/1.10.2 [1.10.1:0/1.10.1] 
USE="adns caps filecaps geoip ipv6 netlink pcap qt4 smi zlib -crypt* -doc 
-doc-pdf -gtk2% -gtk3% -kerberos -libadns -lua -portaudio (-selinux) -ssl* 
(-gtk%) (-profile%)" 26,043 kB
[blocks B  ] dev-python/pillow ("dev-python/pillow" is blocking 
dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2)
[blocks B  ] dev-python/imaging ("dev-python/imaging" is blocking 
dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1)

Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 170,044 kB
Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)

Fetch instructions for dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0.40:
 * 
 * Oracle requires you to download the needed files manually after
 * accepting their license through a javascript capable web browser.
 * 
 * Download the following files:
 *   jdk-7u40-linux-x64.tar.gz
 * at 
'http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html'
 * and move them to '/usr/portage/distfiles'
 * 

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by

dev-python/pillow[tk?,python_targets_python2_6(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_2(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)]
 
(dev-python/pillow[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python2_6(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_2(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)])
 required by (virtual/python-imaging-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
dev-python/imaging required by (media-video/openshot-1.4.3::sabayon, 
installed)


For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
Thank you & Greetings
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] creating overlay to modify net-fs/samba-3.6.18

2013-09-11 Thread Timur Aydin
On 09/11/13 23:13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> I can't reproduce that fault here, and google hits on the matter seem to
> point towards stale metadata referencing eclasses that no longer exist.
> I have a hunch you do not have valid metadata for your local overlay, so
> I suggest:
> 
> 1. delete the eclass directory from your overlay, run "emerge
> --metadata" and emerge samba again. See what that does.

I have tried this, and the same problem happened, where emerge
complained that pam.eclass wasn't found.

> 2. Set PORTDIR_CACHE_METHOD and/or OVERLAY_CACHE_METHOD explicitly in
> make.conf, the best reference for these is in the eix man page

While reading up on the various methods in the eix man page, I started
to wonder whether a setting in /usr/local/portage/metadata/layout.conf
was causing this problem. When testing, layout.conf had only a single
entry, which was:

masters =

I remembered an error message from portage a while ago, which suggested
setting this to "gentoo" for backward compatibility. I tried that, and
the problem went away :) I was able to emerge samba from the overlay
successfully. Does this make sense?

--
Timur



Re: [gentoo-user] creating overlay to modify net-fs/samba-3.6.18

2013-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/09/2013 00:22, Timur Aydin wrote:
> On 09/11/13 00:01, Alan McKinnon wrote:

>> I suspect your make.conf is faulty.
>>
>> What is the contents of make.conf?
>> what is ls -al $PORTDIR/eclass/pam.eclass
>>
> 
> Here are the contents of /etc/portage/make.conf:
> 
> ==
> # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
> # built this stage.
> # Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more
> # detailed example.
> CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> # WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly.
> # Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before
> changing.
> CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
> # These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided
> by the
> # profile used for building.
> MAKEOPTS="-j8"
> GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.linux.org.tr/pub/gentoo";
> USE="nptl nptlonly unicode minizip tk udev python threads xvfb perl dlz
> caps sqlite upcall systemd -gtk2 -gtk3 -acl"
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"
> ACCEPT_LICENSE="*"
> VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
> INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse"
> FEATURES="-test"
> PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
> ==
> 
> And here is the pam.eclass perms:
> 
> bonsai ~ # ls -al /usr/portage/eclass/pam.eclass
> -rw-r--r-- 1 portage portage 6455 Aug  5  2012
> /usr/portage/eclass/pam.eclass



I can't reproduce that fault here, and google hits on the matter seem to
point towards stale metadata referencing eclasses that no longer exist.
I have a hunch you do not have valid metadata for your local overlay, so
I suggest:

1. delete the eclass directory from your overlay, run "emerge
--metadata" and emerge samba again. See what that does.

2. Set PORTDIR_CACHE_METHOD and/or OVERLAY_CACHE_METHOD explicitly in
make.conf, the best reference for these is in the eix man page


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2.1 stabilized?

2013-09-11 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Sorry to cause you palpitations, Dale. Portage wasn't at fault - I was! 

Well, as some know, I'm disabled.  Right now, my brother is fighting
cancer.  My 80 year old Mom is having issues, took her to the ER the
other day and plan to take her to the regular Dr tomorrow.  Then I add
in local friends that are always coming up with something.  Today I had
to go fix a busted water pipe for a friend.  I'm a bit frazzled which is
why I haven't been posting much the past few weeks. 

All things considered, this is a VERY mild hiccup.  I'm just glad you
got it sorted out and it is working.  Oh, I still try to be funny when I
can and put my smiley face on too.  See below.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

^--  Yep, still grinning. 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on System76 laptop, and Netflix

2013-09-11 Thread felix
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:31:26AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM,   wrote:
> >
> >   2.  If I use kvm/virsh, is it possible to install a Mac image to watch 
> > Netflix streaming movies?  Or, yecch, Windows, but I'd really rather not 
> > try that, as I haven't touched Windows for 15-20 years and see no reason to 
> > enrich Boll Gates' pension.
> 
> Check out the Gentoo Wiki for a couple alternative ways to possibly
> watch Netflix in Linux without needing a virtual machine at all:
> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Netflix
> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Netflix/Pipelight

Pipelight looks interesting; saved the bookmark.  Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on System76 laptop, and Netflix

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM,   wrote:
>
>   2.  If I use kvm/virsh, is it possible to install a Mac image to watch 
> Netflix streaming movies?  Or, yecch, Windows, but I'd really rather not try 
> that, as I haven't touched Windows for 15-20 years and see no reason to 
> enrich Boll Gates' pension.

Check out the Gentoo Wiki for a couple alternative ways to possibly
watch Netflix in Linux without needing a virtual machine at all:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Netflix
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Netflix/Pipelight



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on System76 laptop, and Netflix

2013-09-11 Thread felix
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:02:20PM +0800, Guillaume Poulin wrote:
> 2013/9/11  :
> >   1.  Anyone have any experience installing gentoo on a System76 laptop?
> 
> If it works fine on Ubuntu I don't any reason why you would have
> difficulty with Gentoo.

Right, in theory.  Software is software,Ubuntu is free source software, the 
code should be avalable.  But Ubuntu does a lot of things differently and I 
have reached a stage in life where using my computer is more important than 
spending inordinate amounts of time piecing together the parts that make it wrk.

What I was hoping for was someone who had done this and could report what 
specific steps were needed, what modules, custom config, etc.  (Hopeing, not 
expecting :-)

> >   2.  If I use kvm/virsh, is it possible to install a Mac image to watch 
> > Netflix streaming movies?  Or, yecch, Windows, but I'd really rather not 
> > try that, as I haven't touched Windows for 15-20 years and see no reason to 
> > enrich Boll Gates' pension.
> 
> If it's just to watch Netflix, the windows native client work greatly
> on wine. I'm not a big fan of wine but it's what I did for my sister
> on her Ubuntu laptop and she seems happy

That's good to know.  Where is this native client -- is it a download from 
Netflix?

Last time I played arund with wine was back in the days when experimentation in 
oddball corners was fun.  Now there are so many such corners, and so much that 
each can do, that my interests have moved up a step.

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Re: [gentoo-user] creating an image of the system

2013-09-11 Thread thegeezer
On 09/11/2013 12:55 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 09.09.2013 08:30, schrieb Michael Hampicke:
>
>> Tar with permission preservation is fine. Just exlude everything
>> in dev/sys/proc/tmp as you said. But make sure, that these
>> directories are in your tar file, it does not matter if they are
>> empty, but they have to exist in order to boot proplery.
> Sorry if I am maybe a bit OT (am I?):
>
> I often cloned systems from or into VMs by booting both systems with
> live-CDs, mounting their disks and "rsync -av" the root-fs over ...
> sure, taking care of dev/sys/proc/tmp does not hurt ...
>
> After the rsync maybe some fstab-editing, checking grub-config ... but
> that worked several times already ... (OK, not automated ... but
> sufficient if I prepare a server inside a VM and then apply that image
> once).
>
> S
>
>
personally i like to add the clone-to disk as a mirror into my lvm, then
once it is synced, i stop service such as databases, split the mirror
and then start databases again.
this lets me import the lvm to the new location practically identical,
of course fstab etc need changing at the other end




Re: [gentoo-user] why does revdep-rebuild object to mounting /var on /mnt/var ?

2013-09-11 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Sep 11 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote:

>>> OK, I get it. I'd write all that temp stuff to /var/tmp so it doesn't
>>> get nuked by something cleverly trying to manage /tmp.
>> 
>> But A. McKinnon says (above) that an always valid rule of thumb is
>> "No object in /var/tmp can be expected to survive a reboot".
>
> There's another rule of thumb that's even more applicable:
>
> "We always do it this way, except when we don't"
>
Now I understand.  Amazing what you learn from this group.
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on System76 laptop, and Netflix

2013-09-11 Thread Guillaume Poulin
2013/9/11  :
>   1.  Anyone have any experience installing gentoo on a System76 laptop?

If it works fine on Ubuntu I don't any reason why you would have
difficulty with Gentoo.

>   2.  If I use kvm/virsh, is it possible to install a Mac image to watch 
> Netflix streaming movies?  Or, yecch, Windows, but I'd really rather not try 
> that, as I haven't touched Windows for 15-20 years and see no reason to 
> enrich Boll Gates' pension.

If it's just to watch Netflix, the windows native client work greatly
on wine. I'm not a big fan of wine but it's what I did for my sister
on her Ubuntu laptop and she seems happy



Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-09-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.09.2013 21:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

> I also wonder if
> 
> http://reviews.cnet.com/adapters-nics/hp-ethernet-1gb-4/4507-3380_7-35338794.html
> 
> is supported by the tg3-module ?

preparing that system within a KVM-based VM now.

I pre-compile the kernel as well ... the host will run AMD Opterons ...
what to consider here?

just compile for a generic x86_64 CPU ?

S



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2.1 stabilized?

2013-09-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 11 Sep 2013 07:14:30 Tanstaafl wrote:

> Well, according to that bug, the fix is IN 2.2.1 (well, it says the fix
> is in 2.1.13 and 2.2.0_alpha189, which means it is (should be?) in 2.2.1...
> 
> So it can't be this bug?

Whether that's true or not, I've found the problem. It was my own fault (so, 
what else is new?)

I have a separate partition for /var/tmp and I'd forgotten to set the 
permissions. I don't know why it ever worked before. It should be fine now that 
I've set perms 1777.

Sorry to cause you palpitations, Dale. Portage wasn't at fault - I was!

-- 
Regards,
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] creating an image of the system

2013-09-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.09.2013 08:30, schrieb Michael Hampicke:

> Tar with permission preservation is fine. Just exlude everything
> in dev/sys/proc/tmp as you said. But make sure, that these
> directories are in your tar file, it does not matter if they are
> empty, but they have to exist in order to boot proplery.

Sorry if I am maybe a bit OT (am I?):

I often cloned systems from or into VMs by booting both systems with
live-CDs, mounting their disks and "rsync -av" the root-fs over ...
sure, taking care of dev/sys/proc/tmp does not hurt ...

After the rsync maybe some fstab-editing, checking grub-config ... but
that worked several times already ... (OK, not automated ... but
sufficient if I prepare a server inside a VM and then apply that image
once).

S




Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and lvm

2013-09-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.09.2013 13:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore identified by
> cookie value


Also found this:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-965446-view-previous.html?sid=5c1f845f96ca4cf1a9c17d73501e232d

I have

# zgrep UEV /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER_PATH=""
CONFIG_DM_UEVENT=y

so this is not my solution here ...



[gentoo-user] systemd and lvm

2013-09-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger


systemd-204
lvm2-2.0.2.99-r2

(lvm2 patched as mentioned in

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480066

this should only matter for activation)

-

See what happens here:

# lvcreate -n mlp-tmpl -L 11G VG02
  /dev/VG02/mlp-tmpl: not found: device not cleared
  Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV.
  device-mapper: remove ioctl on  failed: Das Gerät oder die Ressource
ist belegt
  semid 163841: semop failed for cookie 0xd4d92b7: incorrect semaphore state
  Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore identified by
cookie value 223187639 (0xd4d92b7) to initialize waiting for incoming
notifications.


# lvcreate -n mlp-tmpl -L 11G -Zn VG02
  WARNING: "mlp-tmpl" not zeroed
  Logical volume "mlp-tmpl" created
  semid 196609: semop failed for cookie 0xd4d74cd: incorrect semaphore state
  Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore identified by
cookie value 223179981 (0xd4d74cd) to initialize waiting for incoming
notifications.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727925

talks of udev_sync=1 ... checked that, is there ...

CONFIG_NET_NS=y (whatever that is ... do I need it?)

...

Does anyone know what to do? I wanted to ask here before I file a bug at
bgo ...

Would be nice to solve this before I set up my shiny new KVM host where
I heavily want to use LVM-snapshots for backups. Sure, I could also stay
with openrc, correct!

(didn't mention: had that semaphore stuff on my main workstation as
well, only when booting via systemd)

Thanks, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2.1 stabilized?

2013-09-11 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-09-10 10:13 AM, Peter Humphrey  wrote:

On Tuesday 10 Sep 2013 07:18:11 Dale wrote:

Peter Humphrey wrote:

Is it working for you, Dale? :-)

So far, so good.  I been using unstable, except for the  version,
for quite a while.  Are you saying something is broke and it works for
me??  O_O  Seriously??  This is a joke right??


No joke, I assure you. As Markos pointed out, a bug has already been opened,
and I fell over it with a vanilla make.conf.

Unless someone knows of a work-around, I'll stick with the old version of
portage until the bug-fix reaches the stable system.


Well, according to that bug, the fix is IN 2.2.1 (well, it says the fix 
is in 2.1.13 and 2.2.0_alpha189, which means it is (should be?) in 2.2.1...


So it can't be this bug?



Re: [gentoo-user] creating an image of the system

2013-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:30:24 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote:

> Tar with permission preservation is fine. Just exlude everything in
> dev/sys/proc/tmp as you said. But make sure, that these directories are
> in your tar file, it does not matter if they are empty, but they have to
> exist in order to boot proplery.
> 
> One special case. To boot you most likely will need /dev/console and
> /dev/null. Just inlcude those two device nodes in your tar file.

Instead of all that, you could bind-mount / somewhere and just make a
tarball of that. That way you exclude any other filesystems (which can
also be done with --one-filesystem) and include any device nodes in the
underlying /dev directory.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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warning to others.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2.1 stabilized?

2013-09-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 10 Sep 2013 16:44:36 David W Noon wrote:

> I did the following:
> 
>  chown -R portage:portage /usr/portage /var/lib/portage /usr/local/portage
> 
> and that fixed things. This assumes you use a userid of "portage" in a
> group named "portage" to maintain your system.

Nope, that didn't do it either. I'll revert to root:portage for 
/var/lib/portage and root:root for /usr/local/portage, as they were, and wait 
for the official fix.

Thanks anyway.

-- 
Regards,
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] why does revdep-rebuild object to mounting /var on /mnt/var ?

2013-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/09/2013 04:02, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
>> On 10/09/2013 18:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
>>
>>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> There's rules of thumb about this that will always work:
>
> No object in /tmp can be expected to survive successive invocations of
> the program that created the object, and never survive a reboot;
> No object in /var/tmp can be expected to survive a reboot
>
> The best place for temp files, ironically, is ~
>>> I set tmpwatch and wipe_tmp so that files survive in /tmp and /var/tmp
>>> for a month.
>>>
>>> I don't like ~ for temp files since on some, admittedly rare, occasions
>>> I actually use the gnome gui file manager and don't want a huge ~.  I
>>> have long ago created ~/tmp (also cleaned after a month by tmpwatch) so
>>> the only problem is breaking the habit of placing short-term files in
>>> /tmp instead of ~/tmp.
>>
>> OK, I get it. I'd write all that temp stuff to /var/tmp so it doesn't
>> get nuked by something cleverly trying to manage /tmp.
> 
> But A. McKinnon says (above) that an always valid rule of thumb is
> "No object in /var/tmp can be expected to survive a reboot".


There's another rule of thumb that's even more applicable:

"We always do it this way, except when we don't"

I use this to great effect all the time, usually when I'm determined to
get my own way at work. I highly recommend this approach, when used with
a good healthy dose of intelligence you can get awesome things done :-)


> 
>>> I realize that habit is bad for my (system's) health, but still find it
>>> hard to break.  I shall try again. Perhaps this is very mild form of
>>> what intelligent smokers feel :-).
>>
>> There is no such thing as an intelligent smoker; there are only stupid
>> smokers :-)
>>
>> I'm a two-packs-a-day man myself, I speak from many years experience!
> 
> I promise not to mention it again, but you really should quit.
> 
> I consider one of my contributions to computer architecture is being at
> least a little influential in getting Per Stenstrom to quit.  At the
> time he was a rising star, who I felt would contribute greatly if he
> didn't get sick from the cigs.  He did quit and has certainly
> contributed.

You are correct of course, and I have no sensible answer for that :-)

The one answer I do have is "see earlier comment 8 paragraphs above"




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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2.1 stabilized?

2013-09-11 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 Sep 2013 07:18:11 Dale wrote:
>> Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> Is it working for you, Dale? :-)
>> So far, so good.  I been using unstable, except for the  version,
>> for quite a while.  Are you saying something is broke and it works for
>> me??  O_O  Seriously??  This is a joke right??
> No joke, I assure you. As Markos pointed out, a bug has already been opened, 
> and I fell over it with a vanilla make.conf.
>
> Unless someone knows of a work-around, I'll stick with the old version of 
> portage until the bug-fix reaches the stable system.
>

So it is broke but works here for me?  I'll get back up after I get my
color back.  I think I'm turning blue.  O_O  & LOL

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!