Re: [gentoo-user] Re: converting from testing to stable SLOWLY
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:20:12 -0800, walt wrote: On 12/20/2013 04:08 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: I recently used it to move a machine from testing to stable. Neil, what do you mean by 'it'? That's clearer if you don' remove the context. PS I know this was posted a year ago but I am only now implementing the suggestion. Sorry for the delay. I recently used it to move a machine from testing to stable. it == the suggestion. That sentence reminds me of a null-pointer-dereference ;) Everything you needed to understand it and process it was there, you just had to look harder, a bit like Perl code :) -- Neil Bothwick (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Mouse problem in QEMU
I have a problem moving the mouse in a guest QEMU machine. The pointer is not grabbed by Guest OS (Linux), however it does react to pressing right mouse button (popup menu appears). Keyboard works well. This is how I launch it: qemu-kvm \ -cpu host \ -drive file=bluecrimson.raw,if=virtio \ -net nic,model=virtio \ -net user,net=192.168.5.0/24 \ -m 2048M \ -vga std \ -usbdevice mouse \ # also tried without this option -name bluecrimson (Chakra) \ -boot d \ -cdrom ~/optic/UNIX/chakra-2013.09-fritz-x86_64.iso The ISO used here is Chakra Linux distro live CD. On the host I run app-emulation/qemu 1.6.1 in KDE 4.12 environment. Any ideas how to make the mouse pointer work?
[gentoo-user] syslog-ng configs for separating warnings/errors and different types of traffic
Hi all, I'm very interested in what are best practices, and what others do as far as separating out different types of messages in their logs. I've always just sent everything to /var/log/messages, and this is not a very heavily loaded box so it hasn't been a big problem, but I'm working on a new server and would like to do some separation. I'd still like everything to go to /var/log/messages, but I'd like to also send certain types of messages to different logs to simplify troubleshooting, etc - ie, I often peruse the logs with: egrep '(reject|warning|error|fatal|panic):' /var/log/messages But I'd like to actually feed all of those messages to a separate log, for easier tailing. I'm also open to some additional separation, and like I said, I'm interested in what others do with theirs... Specific config examples welcome! Thanks Charles
[gentoo-user] Re: syslog-ng configs for separating warnings/errors and different types of traffic
Tanstaafl tanstaafl at libertytrek.org writes: I'm very interested in what are best practices, and what others do as far as separating out different types of messages in their logs. First list all of your resources you are going to monitor: webservers? DNS activity/servers? Security? Specific ports? Users? Networks product a cornicopia of data to collect, monitor, store and analyze. I've always just sent everything to /var/log/messages, and this is not a very heavily loaded box so it hasn't been a big problem, but I'm working on a new server and would like to do some separation. Ok, if your network is expanding and you've listed what you need to do, then look for tools that will help make sense, quickly of all of that logged data: reportmagic, analog, awstats, just to nake a few. I'd still like everything to go to /var/log/messages, but I'd like to also send certain types of messages to different logs to simplify troubleshooting, etc - ie, I often peruse the logs with: egrep '(reject|warning|error|fatal|panic):' /var/log/messages If you use custom (CLI) or scripts, you'll need to think about collecting that up and what sort of analysis you want/need to run. But I'd like to actually feed all of those messages to a separate log, for easier tailing. systemd is clouding these issue versus syslog(ng). so whether or not you are or are planning to use systemd is also a factor you need to incorporate into you decision. If you are currently using cron, plan on moving to cronie as it is actively maintained and cron is not. There are many, many different and valid approaches to this issue, so first go out and read about ideas related to what your need to do (Googling is your friend). Collecting up data, into a singular file allows you to see what occurs in a chronological fashion, and is easiest for a small netowrk. Once you go creating many different log files, you now need to develop a strategy to priortize what you need to monitor. Are you reviewing these logs file, by hand? Dailey, weeking or real time monitoring? What is your first priority? Security? System Admin(resource utilization)? keeping an ecomerce server/farm fast and responsive? Following you hacker budies around the net? (inside your net?).. DEFINE what you need to do first. Then look for tools to ease the job. Implement, test, refine.. rinse and repeat. What you are asking, is a life_long quest for most of us, it's never done, always there and fundamental to running large amounts of hardware and software, hopefully in a pristine manner. Oh yea, learn abount managed switches and keeping track of what's going on inside of your routers, too. http://sixrevisions.com/tools/10-free-server-network-monitoring-tools-that-kick-ass/ http://www.jffnms.org/ Charles hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng configs for separating warnings/errors and different types of traffic
On 12/22/2013 03:17 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
I'd still like everything to go to /var/log/messages, but I'd like to
also send certain types of messages to different logs to simplify
troubleshooting, etc - ie, I often peruse the logs with:
egrep '(reject|warning|error|fatal|panic):' /var/log/messages
But I'd like to actually feed all of those messages to a separate log,
for easier tailing.
For each separate log you want, you'll need a destination/filter pair,
and you'll have to tie them together with a log directive. For example,
destination warnlog { file(/var/log/warn.log); };
filter f_warn { level(warn); };
log { source(src); filter(f_warn); destination(warnlog); };
[gentoo-user] New Gnome Systemd Upgrade Question
Hi, I installed Gentoo a long time ago with the desktop/gnome profile set. Now, I don't use gnome (i use fluxbox). However since I have the use tags, many gnome libraries were pulled in over time. Now, since the upgrade to gnome 3.8, Portage updates result in a conflict because the gnome libs need systemd, which conflicts with udev. Instead of making the switch to systemd, I decided to change my profile to plain desktop (no gnome). Since I don't have gnome desktop, it was relatively simple for the system to update itself. My only questions are, will cups and hplip function in a 'gnomeless' system, and are there any other gotchas to be aware of?
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng configs for separating warnings/errors and different types of traffic
On 22/12/13 22:17, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, I'm very interested in what are best practices, and what others do as far as separating out different types of messages in their logs. I've always just sent everything to /var/log/messages, and this is not a very heavily loaded box so it hasn't been a big problem, but I'm working on a new server and would like to do some separation. I'd still like everything to go to /var/log/messages, but I'd like to also send certain types of messages to different logs to simplify troubleshooting, etc - ie, I often peruse the logs with: egrep '(reject|warning|error|fatal|panic):' /var/log/messages But I'd like to actually feed all of those messages to a separate log, for easier tailing. syslog-ng comes with extensive documentation and a high-quality sysadmin manual is available from Balabit's web site. You need to start there as that spec above is highly bespoke. To do it, you need to examine the content of the log body using a regex, the usual way of filtering logs is by the header fields, not the body. There is no best practice as such wrt logging, All that there is, is whatever you consider you need to have. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gnome Systemd Upgrade Question
On 23/12/13 01:56, Lee wrote: Hi, I installed Gentoo a long time ago with the desktop/gnome profile set. Now, I don't use gnome (i use fluxbox). However since I have the use tags, many gnome libraries were pulled in over time. Now, since the upgrade to gnome 3.8, Portage updates result in a conflict because the gnome libs need systemd, which conflicts with udev. Instead of making the switch to systemd, I decided to change my profile to plain desktop (no gnome). Since I don't have gnome desktop, it was relatively simple for the system to update itself. My only questions are, will cups and hplip function in a 'gnomeless' system, and are there any other gotchas to be aware of? printing will work regardless of whether you have gnome or not. cups is what it is, it is not a gnome app. I don't know of any gotchas with removing gnome (I usually call that a feature with huge benefits...). All that a profile is, is a bunch of pre-configured settings. It's a starting point and the contents of your settings in /etc/portage modifies them. Portage will sort everything out when you emerge -avuND world and give you what you need according to your config -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] new printer : any thoughts ?
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 02:27:44PM +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2013/12/11 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has an HP Deskjet 2510 on sale this week. Regarding HP printers and hplip, I recommend buying a printer which does not require a binary plugin [1]. First they are a source of trouble and second the binary plugins are not supported by Gentoo which means there is no maintainer for a plugin ebuild [2]. Plugin installation currently is not under contol of the package manager and hplip tries to automagically download and install the plugin which often fails. I never came to like Ink-squirters. All the mess with dried up print heads, planned-obsolescence and ink more expensive than blood. I am also quite tired of hplip. At some point foo2zjs was masked in portage (never bothered finding out why), so I had to migrate. Hplip is just another thing that puts itself into the tray, but needs cups nonetheless. The download of the printer plugin (or rather, its installation) fails b/c it needs python 2, but doesn't explicitly state that. So if you have python 3 as your system version, the python script fails. I have a laserjet 1000, bought in 2004, it's even still got the original cartridge. It may not be fast and has no duplex mode, but it suits my needs. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service. The best camouflage is the truth: nobody will believe it anyway!
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gnome Systemd Upgrade Question
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 02:07:06AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 23/12/13 01:56, Lee wrote: Hi, I installed Gentoo a long time ago with the desktop/gnome profile set. Now, I don't use gnome (i use fluxbox). However since I have the use tags, many gnome libraries were pulled in over time. Now, since the upgrade to gnome 3.8, Portage updates result in a conflict because the gnome libs need systemd, which conflicts with udev. Instead of making the switch to systemd, I decided to change my profile to plain desktop (no gnome). Since I don't have gnome desktop, it was relatively simple for the system to update itself. My only questions are, will cups and hplip function in a 'gnomeless' system, and are there any other gotchas to be aware of? printing will work regardless of whether you have gnome or not. cups is what it is, it is not a gnome app. I don't know of any gotchas with removing gnome (I usually call that a feature with huge benefits...). All that a profile is, is a bunch of pre-configured settings. It's a starting point and the contents of your settings in /etc/portage modifies them. Portage will sort everything out when you emerge -avuND world and give you what you need according to your config That's a relief! I didn't think the upgrade to systemd was worth the trouble. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[gentoo-user] No trace of installed simpleagenda
I have emerged simpleagenda. Everything went on smoothly, no errors or warnings appeared. emerge --search simpleagenda shows that version 0.43 of the package is installed. However, I cannot find it in any FXCE menus and there is no simpleagenda command in shell. Moreover, there are no simpleagenda folder in /usr/share/doc and no man page for it. Application Finder also does not see it. Does anybody know how one can start this extremely humble program?
[gentoo-user] out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk
I'm upgrading the system and running out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk * Checking for at least 18 gigabytes disk space at /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/temp ... [ !! ] * There is NOT at least 18 gigabytes disk space at /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/temp df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 28G 16G 11G 61% / /dev/root28G 16G 11G 61% / tmpfs 506M 540K 505M 1% /run udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev shm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda484G 51G 29G 65% /home How do I tell the system to use /home partition to use for compiling temp tiles? -- Joseph
