Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Paige Thompson

On 10/04/14 16:26, behrouz khosravi wrote:
 Hello everyone.
 I was wondering if anyone has tried KDE5?
 Do you know when it's going to be placed in the main tree?

 thanks
I'm using the layman repo (plasma 5 live) once you get it setup and
working its pretty awesome.

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/Overlay

You can probably also get some questions answered in #gentoo-kde on
freenode.




Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Paige Thompson

On 10/04/14 16:26, behrouz khosravi wrote:
 Hello everyone.
 I was wondering if anyone has tried KDE5?
 Do you know when it's going to be placed in the main tree?

 thanks
before you even mess around with that though I suggest taking kde and/or
setting -kde in your make.conf use flags. start using package.use and
linking things to kde on a case by case basis.



Re: [gentoo-user] Again some headless stuff/question

2014-10-05 Thread thegeezer
On 05/10/14 05:34, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 for starting and running a script on a headless system for me nohup
 works perfectly.
 For interactive session via ssh screen/tmux turned out to be the
 solution to detach from jobs started from the commandline.
 Both are hints/help I received from the community here. :)
 Thank you very much !!! :)))

 Since the screen/tmux thingie is THAT convenient I would like to start
 this as the default when logging in via ssh.
 I could write a script which is started by the shell (zsh) which in 
 turn is started as part of the login process.
 Screen would start another shell and TADA!...
 But this is an embedded system...

 The result should be a running screen session right after login via
 ssh.

 Is there any shorter path to what I am trying to do -- without the
 cascade of shells which do nothing but waiting of the child process to
 end?

 Thank you very much in advance for any help! Have a nice Sunday!

 Best regards,
 mcc



you can auto-start a program of your choice directly from an ssh
command. for example:
$ ssh -t myhost screen -R -d
will connect over ssh and then run screen to auto detach then reattach a
running a screen or start a new one if not.
you can of course name your screens so you can connect to
mycompilewindow or mycleverideasvimwindow

alternatively, and if you tend to use a mobile device for ssh you can
but something like in your .bashrc
if [ -n $SSH_CLIENT ] || [ -n $SSH_TTY ]; then
  screen -R -d
fi

which would check to see if ssh variables are set by openssh i.e. it is
an ssh session and then run screen for you

hth


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/4/2014 1:37 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
 The KDE release structure has evolved[1], decoupling the release cycle
 of the Platform, Workspace, and Applications. This means that there is
 no longer a single Software Compilation in the same way there was with
 KDE 4.

Interesting.

Has this been discussed in detail before? What is the consensus about
this in the gentoo dev world? Meaning - is it a good or bad thing? I've
been  thinking about giving KDE a try again, but still read enough
negative things about it to give me pause (my time is very limited so I
have to pick/choose what I want to spend it on)...



[gentoo-user] Cohorent pool size too small...

2014-10-05 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

while trying to get a mt7601sta (UWN200 WiFi dongle) driver running
and working I came accross this in the dmesg output:

[9.931938] usb 2-1: device v148f p7601 is not supported
[9.931976] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=148f, idProduct=7601
[9.931994] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[   10.077532] rtusb init rt2870 ---
[   10.079338] 

=== pAd = e0c58000, size = 860808 ===

[   10.079939] ERROR: 256 KiB atomic DMA coherent pool is too small!
Please increase it with coherent_pool= kernel parameter!
[   10.079968] -- ERROR in Alloc Bulk buffer for HTTxContext!
[   10.079983] --- RTMPFreeTxRxRingMemory
[   10.080026] --- RTMPFreeTxRxRingMemory
[   10.080040] ERROR!!! Failed to allocate memory - TxRxRing


But 

cat /proc/cmdline 

shows:

console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc 
capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G,coherent_pool=2M

(this is an embedded device, thats why there are the other parameters
around...)

I do not find any way to set this parameter while compiling the
kernel. And setting the kernel parameter seems not to work either...

Lost?

...or am I only blind... ? ;)

How can I increase the cohorent pool size successfully?

Best regards,
mcc

PS: The driver sources are not included in the kernel and have to be
compiled externally/extra...




[gentoo-user] Re: nonfatal() not supported error in glibc binary install

2014-10-05 Thread walt
On 10/04/2014 09:15 PM, Bruce Schultz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to update a system using binary packages build on another system. 
 I get this error for glibc:
 
   Emerging binary (1 of 1) sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1::gentoo
  * glibc-2.19-r1.tbz2 MD5 SHA1 size ;-) ...  [ ok 
 ]
   Extracting info
 
   Failed to emerge sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1, Log file:
 
   '/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1/temp/build.log'
 
  * Messages for package sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1:
 
  * ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1::gentoo failed (setup phase):
  *   nonfatal() not supported in this EAPI
  *
  * Call stack:
  *   ebuild.sh, line   93:  Called pkg_setup
  * environment, line 2870:  Called eblit-run 'pkg_setup'
  * environment, line  987:  Called eblit-glibc-pkg_setup
  * environment, line  843:  Called glibc_run_test '#include 
 pwd.h
  * int main(){return getpwuid(0)==0;}
  * '
  * environment, line 2085:  Called glibc_compile_test '' 
 '#include pwd.h
  * int main(){return getpwuid(0)==0;}
  * '
  * environment, line 1998:  Called nonfatal 'emake' '-s' 
 'glibc-test'
  *   isolated-functions.sh, line   92:  Called die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *   
  die $FUNCNAME() not supported in this EAPI

I have isolated-functions.sh in two places:

/usr/lib64/portage/python2.7/isolated-functions.sh
/usr/lib64/portage/python3.3/isolated-functions.sh
but not in /usr/lib64/portage/python3.4 (which I didn't know was installed til 
now)

You might want to check the target machine for which version of python it's 
using
and that it has the latest version of portage in /usr/lib/portage/pythonN.N/

Maybe running python-updater would help?




Re: [gentoo-user] Again some headless stuff/question

2014-10-05 Thread meino . cramer
thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net [14-10-05 14:36]:
 On 05/10/14 05:34, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  for starting and running a script on a headless system for me nohup
  works perfectly.
  For interactive session via ssh screen/tmux turned out to be the
  solution to detach from jobs started from the commandline.
  Both are hints/help I received from the community here. :)
  Thank you very much !!! :)))
 
  Since the screen/tmux thingie is THAT convenient I would like to start
  this as the default when logging in via ssh.
  I could write a script which is started by the shell (zsh) which in 
  turn is started as part of the login process.
  Screen would start another shell and TADA!...
  But this is an embedded system...
 
  The result should be a running screen session right after login via
  ssh.
 
  Is there any shorter path to what I am trying to do -- without the
  cascade of shells which do nothing but waiting of the child process to
  end?
 
  Thank you very much in advance for any help! Have a nice Sunday!
 
  Best regards,
  mcc
 
 
 
 you can auto-start a program of your choice directly from an ssh
 command. for example:
 $ ssh -t myhost screen -R -d
 will connect over ssh and then run screen to auto detach then reattach a
 running a screen or start a new one if not.
 you can of course name your screens so you can connect to
 mycompilewindow or mycleverideasvimwindow
 
 alternatively, and if you tend to use a mobile device for ssh you can
 but something like in your .bashrc
 if [ -n $SSH_CLIENT ] || [ -n $SSH_TTY ]; then
   screen -R -d
 fi
 
 which would check to see if ssh variables are set by openssh i.e. it is
 an ssh session and then run screen for you
 
 hth

Best!
I dont wanted to experiment (and fail)...there were chances to get no
access to the system anymore...

THX!
Best regards,
mcc





[gentoo-user] Re: Cohorent pool size too small...

2014-10-05 Thread walt
On 10/05/2014 06:52 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 while trying to get a mt7601sta (UWN200 WiFi dongle) driver running
 and working I came accross this in the dmesg output:
 
 [9.931938] usb 2-1: device v148f p7601 is not supported

This looks to me like it's the real error, not the one below.

 [9.931976] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=148f, idProduct=7601
 [9.931994] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
 SerialNumber=3
 [   10.077532] rtusb init rt2870 ---
 [   10.079338] 
 
 === pAd = e0c58000, size = 860808 ===
 
 [   10.079939] ERROR: 256 KiB atomic DMA coherent pool is too small!
 Please increase it with coherent_pool= kernel parameter!
 [   10.079968] -- ERROR in Alloc Bulk buffer for HTTxContext!
 [   10.079983] --- RTMPFreeTxRxRingMemory
 [   10.080026] --- RTMPFreeTxRxRingMemory
 [   10.080040] ERROR!!! Failed to allocate memory - TxRxRing
 
 
 But 
 
 cat /proc/cmdline 
 
 shows:
 
 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc 
 capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G,coherent_pool=2M
 
 (this is an embedded device, thats why there are the other parameters
 around...)
 
 I do not find any way to set this parameter while compiling the
 kernel. And setting the kernel parameter seems not to work either...
 
 Lost?
 
 ...or am I only blind... ? ;)
 
 How can I increase the cohorent pool size successfully?
 
 Best regards,
 mcc
 
 PS: The driver sources are not included in the kernel and have to be
 compiled externally/extra...
 
 
 





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cohorent pool size too small...

2014-10-05 Thread meino . cramer
walt w41...@gmail.com [14-10-05 16:16]:
 On 10/05/2014 06:52 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
  
  while trying to get a mt7601sta (UWN200 WiFi dongle) driver running
  and working I came accross this in the dmesg output:
  
  [9.931938] usb 2-1: device v148f p7601 is not supported
 
 This looks to me like it's the real error, not the one below.

What I dont understand is: If I provide the kernel driver...why does
the kernel decides not to support the hardware the driver itsself
supports...?

By the way: I hacked the kernel to provide more coherent pool size
with the effect that NO module was loaded anymore...without any trace
in the dmesg out (beside the greater pool size itsself...)...

best regards,
mcc



 
  [9.931976] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=148f, idProduct=7601
  [9.931994] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
  SerialNumber=3
  [   10.077532] rtusb init rt2870 ---
  [   10.079338] 
  
  === pAd = e0c58000, size = 860808 ===
  
  [   10.079939] ERROR: 256 KiB atomic DMA coherent pool is too small!
  Please increase it with coherent_pool= kernel parameter!
  [   10.079968] -- ERROR in Alloc Bulk buffer for HTTxContext!
  [   10.079983] --- RTMPFreeTxRxRingMemory
  [   10.080026] --- RTMPFreeTxRxRingMemory
  [   10.080040] ERROR!!! Failed to allocate memory - TxRxRing
  
  
  But 
  
  cat /proc/cmdline 
  
  shows:
  
  console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc 
  capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G,coherent_pool=2M
  
  (this is an embedded device, thats why there are the other parameters
  around...)
  
  I do not find any way to set this parameter while compiling the
  kernel. And setting the kernel parameter seems not to work either...
  
  Lost?
  
  ...or am I only blind... ? ;)
  
  How can I increase the cohorent pool size successfully?
  
  Best regards,
  mcc
  
  PS: The driver sources are not included in the kernel and have to be
  compiled externally/extra...
  
  
  
 
 
 



[gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 10/06/2014 12:17 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 10/4/2014 1:37 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
 The KDE release structure has evolved[1], decoupling the release cycle
 of the Platform, Workspace, and Applications. This means that there is
 no longer a single Software Compilation in the same way there was with
 KDE 4.
 
 Interesting.
 
 Has this been discussed in detail before? What is the consensus about
 this in the gentoo dev world? Meaning - is it a good or bad thing? I've
 been  thinking about giving KDE a try again, but still read enough
 negative things about it to give me pause (my time is very limited so I
 have to pick/choose what I want to spend it on)...
 
 
There's a fair bit of info about it floating around upstream. The
Frameworks split has involved a great deal of cleanup, with a focus on
continuous integration and pushing functionality to Qt where
appropriate. The move from a single monolithic kdelibs to about 60 small
frameworks will also drive adoption of the platform as it substantially
reduces dependency bloat.

As for Gentoo, we're just following upstream. :-) There's many more
ebuilds than before, but packaging is a lot simpler.

Given that it's early days both up and downstream, I wouldn't yet
recommend Plasma 5 on Gentoo for someone that's not at least a little
bit adventurous. I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've
experienced/heard in the past though.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/5/2014 11:01 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
 I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've
 experienced/heard in the past though.

Bloat, buggy/unstable ever since the move from KDE3 to KDE4 (and never
really gotten any better over time), etc...

But of course there are always haters too... I'm sure it isn't as bad as
the loudest complainers make it sound...



[gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 10/06/2014 02:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 10/5/2014 11:01 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
 I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've
 experienced/heard in the past though.
 
 Bloat, buggy/unstable ever since the move from KDE3 to KDE4 (and never
 really gotten any better over time), etc...
 
 But of course there are always haters too... I'm sure it isn't as bad as
 the loudest complainers make it sound...
 
 

There were definitely issues in KDE 4 early days but there have been
substantial improvements since then.  Regarding bloat/performance, this
biggest complaints seem to be about nepomuk/baloo. We provide the
semantic-desktop USE flag to provide the option of disabling this
feature wherever it's possible.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/10/2014 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote:
 On 10/06/2014 02:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 10/5/2014 11:01 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
 I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've
 experienced/heard in the past though.

 Bloat, buggy/unstable ever since the move from KDE3 to KDE4 (and never
 really gotten any better over time), etc...

 But of course there are always haters too... I'm sure it isn't as bad as
 the loudest complainers make it sound...


 
 There were definitely issues in KDE 4 early days but there have been
 substantial improvements since then.  Regarding bloat/performance, this
 biggest complaints seem to be about nepomuk/baloo. We provide the
 semantic-desktop USE flag to provide the option of disabling this
 feature wherever it's possible.


People do complain about nepomuk/baloo, but in my opinion it's mostly
unwarranted. The first indexing action did always take a long time (and
so does mlocate) but once that's done, I found it didn't really impact
the system all that much.

My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn
thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I
could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer
managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I
switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird.

I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and
stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also
understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is.

The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My
sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-)


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 05.10.2014 um 18:27 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
 On 05/10/2014 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote:
 On 10/06/2014 02:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 10/5/2014 11:01 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
 I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've
 experienced/heard in the past though.
 Bloat, buggy/unstable ever since the move from KDE3 to KDE4 (and never
 really gotten any better over time), etc...

 But of course there are always haters too... I'm sure it isn't as bad as
 the loudest complainers make it sound...


 There were definitely issues in KDE 4 early days but there have been
 substantial improvements since then.  Regarding bloat/performance, this
 biggest complaints seem to be about nepomuk/baloo. We provide the
 semantic-desktop USE flag to provide the option of disabling this
 feature wherever it's possible.

 People do complain about nepomuk/baloo, but in my opinion it's mostly
 unwarranted. The first indexing action did always take a long time (and
 so does mlocate) but once that's done, I found it didn't really impact
 the system all that much.

 My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn
 thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I
 could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer
 managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I
 switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird.

or even better: akonadi eating 10 years and 100 000+ archived emails.
But the gains were there - search became slower, if it worked at all and
all filters broke - several times.


 I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and
 stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also
 understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is.

as long as akonadi with its idiotic database backend is around, it will
never be trustworthy.

 The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My
 sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-)


My favorite fuckups which are still around:
tumblr can make konqueror hang at 100% cpu for minutes, because of some
javascript - firefox and chromium are fine and dlisted in one tab is
fine, but open one of their articles in a new tab and konqueror just
vanishes. Not even the crash dialog pops up.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/10/2014 18:59, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn
  thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I
  could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer
  managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I
  switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird.
 or even better: akonadi eating 10 years and 100 000+ archived emails.
 But the gains were there - search became slower, if it worked at all and
 all filters broke - several times.


Ever notice how no other pim-like application feels the need to store
everything in mysql or similar? The fact that so many pim-like apps
actually do work should count for something


 
 
  I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and
  stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also
  understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is.
 as long as akonadi with its idiotic database backend is around, it will
 never be trustworthy.
 
  The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My
  sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-)
 
 My favorite fuckups which are still around:
 tumblr can make konqueror hang at 100% cpu for minutes, because of some
 javascript - firefox and chromium are fine and dlisted in one tab is
 fine, but open one of their articles in a new tab and konqueror just
 vanishes. Not even the crash dialog pops up.

I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months, I get along
just fine with firefox and chromium. I believe konqueror is essentially
unmaintained these days or at least on life support. Make a fine file
manager though (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)




-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 05.10.2014 um 19:10 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
 On 05/10/2014 18:59, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn
 thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I
 could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer
 managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I
 switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird.
 or even better: akonadi eating 10 years and 100 000+ archived emails.
 But the gains were there - search became slower, if it worked at all and
 all filters broke - several times.

 Ever notice how no other pim-like application feels the need to store
 everything in mysql or similar? The fact that so many pim-like apps
 actually do work should count for something


 I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and
 stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also
 understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is.
 as long as akonadi with its idiotic database backend is around, it will
 never be trustworthy.
 The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My
 sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-)

 My favorite fuckups which are still around:
 tumblr can make konqueror hang at 100% cpu for minutes, because of some
 javascript - firefox and chromium are fine and dlisted in one tab is
 fine, but open one of their articles in a new tab and konqueror just
 vanishes. Not even the crash dialog pops up.
 I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months, I get along
 just fine with firefox and chromium. I believe konqueror is essentially
 unmaintained these days or at least on life support. Make a fine file
 manager though (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)





konqueror for the usual stuff
firefox for video sites (like youtube)facebook
chromium for fucking retard sites that make my blood boil. like
*.yahoo.com, tumblr, flickr.




[gentoo-user] Re: Cohorent pool size too small...

2014-10-05 Thread walt
On 10/05/2014 07:54 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 walt w41...@gmail.com [14-10-05 16:16]:
  On 10/05/2014 06:52 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
   Hi,
   
   while trying to get a mt7601sta (UWN200 WiFi dongle) driver running
   and working I came accross this in the dmesg output:
   
   [9.931938] usb 2-1: device v148f p7601 is not supported
  
  This looks to me like it's the real error, not the one below.
 What I dont understand is: If I provide the kernel driver...why does
 the kernel decides not to support the hardware the driver itsself
 supports...?

Where did you get the driver?  Are you sure it's really the right one?





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cohorent pool size too small...

2014-10-05 Thread meino . cramer
walt w41...@gmail.com [14-10-05 19:36]:
 On 10/05/2014 07:54 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  walt w41...@gmail.com [14-10-05 16:16]:
   On 10/05/2014 06:52 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,

while trying to get a mt7601sta (UWN200 WiFi dongle) driver running
and working I came accross this in the dmesg output:

[9.931938] usb 2-1: device v148f p7601 is not supported
   
   This looks to me like it's the real error, not the one below.
  What I dont understand is: If I provide the kernel driver...why does
  the kernel decides not to support the hardware the driver itsself
  supports...?
 
 Where did you get the driver?  Are you sure it's really the right one?
 
 
 

One of the main maintainer for the Beaglebone black kernel sources
(Robert C. Nelson) point me to his git repository of this driver.

I am now back to kernel 3.8.13, where this stuff runs...
(The kernel I tried it before was 3.14.19)
But this kernel version get no much updates thess days and is 
somehow old...

Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 04.10.2014 um 19:37 schrieb Michael Palimaka:
 On 10/04/2014 11:26 PM, behrouz khosravi wrote:
 Hello everyone.
 I was wondering if anyone has tried KDE5?
 Do you know when it's going to be placed in the main tree?

 thanks
 Hi,

 The KDE release structure has evolved[1], decoupling the release cycle
 of the Platform, Workspace, and Applications. This means that there is
 no longer a single Software Compilation in the same way there was with
 KDE 4.

 We (Gentoo KDE team) have not yet made a decision as to when the Plasma
 5 Workspace will be pushed to the main tree. I've been using it on a
 daily basis for about six months, and consider the next release (5.1.0)
 to be a good candidate for the main tree.

 The underlying Platform (KDE Frameworks 5) upon which Plasma 5 is built
 is expected in the main tree in about a week, after the 5.3.0 release.

 Best regards,
 Michael

 [1]: https://dot.kde.org/2013/09/04/kde-release-structure-evolves




ok, at the moment you can't even install this mess:

merge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
=dev-qt/qtwebkit-5.3.2:5[debug=,widgets].
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- dev-qt/qtwebkit-5.3.2-r1::gentoo (Missing IUSE: widgets)
(dependency required by dev-qt/qtquick1-5.3.2 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-frameworks/plasma-5.2.0::kde [ebuild])
(dependency required by @kde-frameworks-5.2 [argument])

yepp, three ebuilds depending on qtwebkit with the widgets useflag -
that it doesn't even have. Oh joy. And that after 2h+ dealing with other
useflag related shenanigans.

btw from the changelog:

  25 Sep 2014; Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org metadata.xml:
  Remove unused USE flag.

that unused useflag wasn't 'widgets' by chance? ^^




[gentoo-user] btrfs raid1 new install

2014-10-05 Thread James
Hello,

Ok, so It's a new gentoo install on (2) 2T sata 3 drives (Raid1).


So I'm using this document as a reference:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Btrfs_native_system_root#Installing_the_MBR

I ran the o option  on both disks and it is the only deviation from  the
document:

Command (? for help): o
This option deletes all partitions and creates a new protective MBR.
Proceed? (Y/N): Y

So using cgdisk I end up with:

Disk /dev/sda: 1.8 TiB, 2000398934016 bytes, 3907029168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: A278FD71-0AFC-448C-817F-BAA52F97F6E1

Device   Start  End   Size Type
/dev/sda1 2048 8191 3M BIOS boot partition
/dev/sda2 8192  1024000   496M Linux filesystem
/dev/sda3  1026048   3907029134   1.8T Linux filesystem


Disk /dev/sdb: 1.8 TiB, 2000398934016 bytes, 3907029168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 08A52E74-1A4D-4681-9BF6-0F3A436251E0

Device   Start  End   Size Type
/dev/sdb1 2048 8191 3M BIOS boot partition
/dev/sdb2 8192  1024000   496M Linux filesystem
/dev/sdb3  1026048   3907029134   1.8T Linux filesystem

/dev/sda is identical (HD are same make/model).

Then :
mkfs -t btrfs -L BTROOT -m raid1 -d raid1 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3

mkfs -t btrfs -L BOOT -m raid1 -d raid1 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sda2


Turning ON incompat feature 'mixed-bg': mixed data and metadata block groups
Turning ON incompat feature 'extref': increased hardlink limit per file to 65536
Created a data/metadata chunk of size 8388608
adding device /dev/sda2 id 2
fs created label BOOT on /dev/sdb2
nodesize 4096 leafsize 4096 sectorsize 4096 size 992.00MiB

Turning ON incompat feature 'extref': increased hardlink limit per file to 65536
adding device /dev/sdb3 id 2
fs created label BTROOT on /dev/sda3
nodesize 16384 leafsize 16384 sectorsize 4096 size 3.64TiB
Btrfs v3.12

So far so good(?).

But now it looks to me like a straight forward handbook install; OR
follow the aforementioned link explicitly for sections:
Root Volume and Boot Volume  and Other Volumes (suggestions for
Other Volumes  (sub-volumes) are welcome.


Another question. I want to run openrc not systemd. All of that 
init scripts looks like systemd. How and where would I modify that
page if I intend to use openrc, if at all?


all discussion, comments and suggestions are welcome.


James







[gentoo-user] Re: New wireless adapter breaks nfs exports [SOLVED]

2014-10-05 Thread walt
On 10/04/2014 11:52 AM, walt wrote:
 This machine (my nfsv3 file server) just got a new wireless adapter, which
 works fine for everything except serving files :(
 
 mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported
 
 google shows me lots about slow nfs connections over wireless but nothing
 about non-support.  I'm using only nfs3 ATM because I've had so many problems
 with nfs4 in the past.  I thought I'd ask here if nfs4 might fix the problem
 before changing everything.

Right...

While you lot were off hoisting a pint or three at the local I answered my own
question by compiling in support for nsfv4.

It worked :)

-- 
Yes, I *have* been reading a crime novel set in a sleazy part of London.
Why do you ask?





[gentoo-user] screen / tmux wierdness

2014-10-05 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

I have two computers: A small embedded system (beaglebone black)
running Gentoo with commandline interface and my PC running Gentoo
with X and using urxvt for commandline actions.

On both TERM is set to
xterm-256color
and both are using zsh as shell.

On the beaglebone black I cannot use tmux because C-b is not
recognized as command prefix.
On the PC I cannot use screen because C-a is not
recognized as command prefix.

I would like to have the choice on both system what terminal
multiplexer to use.



What can cause this weird behaviour? How can I fix it?



Thank you very much in advance for any help!
Best regards,
mcc





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nonfatal() not supported error in glibc binary install

2014-10-05 Thread Bruce Schultz

On 06/10/14 00:05, walt wrote:

On 10/04/2014 09:15 PM, Bruce Schultz wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to update a system using binary packages build on another system. I 
get this error for glibc:

   Emerging binary (1 of 1) sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1::gentoo
  * glibc-2.19-r1.tbz2 MD5 SHA1 size ;-) ...  [ ok ]
   Extracting info

   Failed to emerge sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1, Log file:

   '/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1/temp/build.log'

  * Messages for package sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1:

  * ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1::gentoo failed (setup phase):
  *   nonfatal() not supported in this EAPI
  *
  * Call stack:
  *   ebuild.sh, line   93:  Called pkg_setup
  * environment, line 2870:  Called eblit-run 'pkg_setup'
  * environment, line  987:  Called eblit-glibc-pkg_setup
  * environment, line  843:  Called glibc_run_test '#include pwd.h
  * int main(){return getpwuid(0)==0;}
  * '
  * environment, line 2085:  Called glibc_compile_test '' '#include 
pwd.h
  * int main(){return getpwuid(0)==0;}
  * '
  * environment, line 1998:  Called nonfatal 'emake' '-s' 
'glibc-test'
  *   isolated-functions.sh, line   92:  Called die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *

   die $FUNCNAME() not supported in this EAPI

I have isolated-functions.sh in two places:

/usr/lib64/portage/python2.7/isolated-functions.sh
/usr/lib64/portage/python3.3/isolated-functions.sh
but not in /usr/lib64/portage/python3.4 (which I didn't know was installed til 
now)

You might want to check the target machine for which version of python it's 
using
and that it has the latest version of portage in /usr/lib/portage/pythonN.N/

Maybe running python-updater would help?



Tried switching to python 2.7 but got the same error.

The line of the error in isolated-functions.sh is calling a function 
__eapi_has_nonfatal. That is defined in eapi.sh and checks if ${EAPI} != 
0, 1, 2 or 3, which effectively leave 4 or 5.


It seems that the glibc ebuild is EAPI 0 (from 
/var/db/pkg/sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1/EAPI).


So I guess that the error means that it tried to run the 
glibc_compile_test and failed for the binary install, so emerge tried to 
raise a nonfatal error, but that wasn't supported by the EAPI and that 
caused the emerge to die.


I wonder if setting EAPI=5 in the ebuild file will help, of if that 
would just cause other problems... I might try that later when I have 
some time...


:B




[gentoo-user] ddclient - Could not connect to dynamic.zoneedit.com

2014-10-05 Thread Joseph

When trying to update dynamic.zoneedit.com via ddclient I'm getting an error:

WARNING:  cannot send to dynamic.zoneedit.com:443 (Bad file descriptor).
FAILED:   updating ...: Could not connect to dynamic.zoneedit.com.

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] screen / tmux wierdness

2014-10-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 04:26:43AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote
 Hi,
 
 I have two computers: A small embedded system (beaglebone black)
 running Gentoo with commandline interface and my PC running Gentoo
 with X and using urxvt for commandline actions.
 
 On both TERM is set to
 xterm-256color
 and both are using zsh as shell.
 
 On the beaglebone black I cannot use tmux because C-b is not
 recognized as command prefix.
 On the PC I cannot use screen because C-a is not
 recognized as command prefix.
 
 I would like to have the choice on both system what terminal
 multiplexer to use.
 
 
 
 What can cause this weird behaviour? How can I fix it?

  That's usually controlled by the screenrc file.  Note that you can
have /etc/screenrc and separate ~/.screenrc for each user.  ~/.screenrc
should override /etc/screenrc.  If you don't have ~/.screenrc, screen
will default to /etc/screenrc.  If you want an instance of screen to
start with a nonstandard config file location, use..

screen -c configfile

 The setting to change, in whichever file you use, is...

#
# Set C-a as command prefix
escape ^Aa

#
# Set C-b as command prefix
escape ^Bb

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] New wireless adapter breaks nfs exports

2014-10-05 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:52 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 This machine (my nfsv3 file server) just got a new wireless adapter, which
 works fine for everything except serving files :(

 mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported

 google shows me lots about slow nfs connections over wireless but nothing
 about non-support. I'm using only nfs3 ATM because I've had so many problems
 with nfs4 in the past. I thought I'd ask here if nfs4 might fix the problem
 before changing everything.

NFS works over wifi.

Have you tried mounting with -v and/or -o nfsvers=3?



Re: [gentoo-user] ddclient - Could not connect to dynamic.zoneedit.com

2014-10-05 Thread Joseph

On 10/05/14 20:49, Joseph wrote:

When trying to update dynamic.zoneedit.com via ddclient I'm getting an error:

WARNING:  cannot send to dynamic.zoneedit.com:443 (Bad file descriptor).
FAILED:   updating ...: Could not connect to dynamic.zoneedit.com.


I've found a solution at:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/40645

--copy
With the package shipped
server=dynamic.zoneedit.com in ddclient.conf you'll get this response:
Jun 1 21:10:34 localhost ddclient[939]: FAILED: updating example.domain: Could 
not connect to dynamic.zoneedit.com

In order to fix it, you must supply the following string:
server=https://api2.zoneedit.com

and modify line 2977
$url .= http://$config{$h}{'server'}/auth/dynamic.html; -- $url .= 
https://$config{$h}{'server'}/auth/dynamic.html;
--end copy--

Though I'm not sure which file is talking about in the last two lines:  and 
modify line 2977 ??

I've changed in ddclient.conf 
server=https://api2.zoneedit.com,  \


and it is working.

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nonfatal() not supported error in glibc binary install

2014-10-05 Thread Bruce Schultz

On 06/10/14 12:38, Bruce Schultz wrote:

On 06/10/14 00:05, walt wrote:

On 10/04/2014 09:15 PM, Bruce Schultz wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to update a system using binary packages build on another 
system. I get this error for glibc:


   Emerging binary (1 of 1) sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1::gentoo
  * glibc-2.19-r1.tbz2 MD5 SHA1 size ;-) 
...  [ ok ]

   Extracting info

   Failed to emerge sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1, Log file:

   '/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1/temp/build.log'

  * Messages for package sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1:

  * ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1::gentoo failed (setup phase):
  *   nonfatal() not supported in this EAPI
  *
  * Call stack:
  *   ebuild.sh, line   93:  Called pkg_setup
  * environment, line 2870:  Called eblit-run 'pkg_setup'
  * environment, line  987:  Called eblit-glibc-pkg_setup
  * environment, line  843:  Called glibc_run_test 
'#include pwd.h

  * int main(){return getpwuid(0)==0;}
  * '
  * environment, line 2085:  Called glibc_compile_test 
'' '#include pwd.h

  * int main(){return getpwuid(0)==0;}
  * '
  * environment, line 1998:  Called nonfatal 'emake' 
'-s' 'glibc-test'

  *   isolated-functions.sh, line   92:  Called die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *

   die $FUNCNAME() not supported in this EAPI

I have isolated-functions.sh in two places:

/usr/lib64/portage/python2.7/isolated-functions.sh
/usr/lib64/portage/python3.3/isolated-functions.sh
but not in /usr/lib64/portage/python3.4 (which I didn't know was 
installed til now)


You might want to check the target machine for which version of 
python it's using
and that it has the latest version of portage in 
/usr/lib/portage/pythonN.N/


Maybe running python-updater would help?



Tried switching to python 2.7 but got the same error.

The line of the error in isolated-functions.sh is calling a function 
__eapi_has_nonfatal. That is defined in eapi.sh and checks if ${EAPI} 
!= 0, 1, 2 or 3, which effectively leave 4 or 5.


It seems that the glibc ebuild is EAPI 0 (from 
/var/db/pkg/sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1/EAPI).


So I guess that the error means that it tried to run the 
glibc_compile_test and failed for the binary install, so emerge tried 
to raise a nonfatal error, but that wasn't supported by the EAPI and 
that caused the emerge to die.


I wonder if setting EAPI=5 in the ebuild file will help, of if that 
would just cause other problems... I might try that later when I have 
some time...



That mostly worked... was going to add it in bugzilla and found this:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523332

Don't know why google didn't find that yesterday for me. So the patch in 
now attached to that bug.


Cheers
Bruce

:B




[gentoo-user] Was Vim compiled with +eval feature?

2014-10-05 Thread Gevisz
I have downloaded the snippet plugin from
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=361
and have done all the steps described there to
install it but, unfortunately, it does not work.

My first thought was that a plugin should be somehow
loaded into Vim but Vim documentation says that

  Vim's functionality can be extended by adding plugins.
   A plugin is nothing more than a Vim script file that
   is loaded automatically when Vim starts. You can add
   a plugin very easily by dropping it in your plugin
   directory. {not available when Vim was compiled
   without the +eval feature}

So, it seems that no load command is needed.

I am going to post the question about it in vim mailing list
but I guess that the first question to me will be: Was your
vim compiled with the +eval feature?

I guess that the answer is yes but do not know it for sure.

To find out this I have tried
  $ equery uses vim
but it gives no exact answer to the question above
(though it seems that the answer is yes, I guess
it from the fact that the minimal use flag is disabled).

Here is the output from this command:

 * Found these USE flags for app-editors/vim-7.4.273:
 U I
 + + X   : Link console vim against X11 libraries to
   enable title and clipboard features in xterm
 + + acl : Add support for Access Control Lists
 - - cscope  : Enable cscope interface -- in vim for example
 - - debug   : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts
   and extra output. If you want to get meaningful
   backtraces see
   http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml
 + + gpm : Add support for sys-libs/gpm (Console-based mouse driver)
 - - lua : Enable Lua scripting support
 - - luajit  : Use dev-lang/luajit instead of dev-lang/lua
 - - minimal : Install a very minimal build (disables, for example,
   plugins, fonts, most drivers, non-critical features)
 + + nls : Add Native Language Support (using gettext - GNU locale 
utilities)
 - - perl: Add optional support/bindings for the Perl language
 - - python  : Add optional support/bindings for the Python language
 + + python_single_target_python2_7 : Build for Python 2.7 only
 - - python_single_target_python3_3 : Build for Python 3.3 only
 + + python_targets_python2_7   : Build with Python 2.7
 + + python_targets_python3_3   : Build with Python 3.3
 - - racket : Enable support for Scheme using 
dev-lang/racket
 - - ruby   : Add support/bindings for the Ruby language
 - - tcl: Add support the Tcl language
 - - vim-pager  : Install vimpager and vimmanpager links

More generally, I would also ask if there is something
specific in Gentoo Vim setup that could prevent a Vim
plugin from executing?  

P.S. I have also tried to load all the plugins by
  :runtime! plugin/**/*.vim
command as described in Vim documentation but it says:
  Error detected while processing ~/.vim/plugin/snippet.vim:
line 28:
  E15: Invalid expression: exists(loaded_snippets)
line 231:
  E171: missing :endif



Re: [gentoo-user] screen / tmux wierdness

2014-10-05 Thread Jc García
2014-10-05 20:26 GMT-06:00  meino.cra...@gmx.de:
 Hi,

 I have two computers: A small embedded system (beaglebone black)
 running Gentoo with commandline interface and my PC running Gentoo
 with X and using urxvt for commandline actions.

 On both TERM is set to
 xterm-256color
 and both are using zsh as shell.

 On the beaglebone black I cannot use tmux because C-b is not
 recognized as command prefix.
Change it to C-a then, I use that with tmux, this is what I have in my
.tmux.conf for that

unbind C-b
set -g prefix C-a

And if you sometimes nest a tmux in another tmux, say you have your
local computer tmux open and you ssh into another box in a tmux
window, then attach a remote tmux session to that window, you can send
the prefix key to the remote tmux using 'C-a a', this means to tmux
'send C-a to the program inside this window', this is also useful if
for some reason you have another program that uses the combination C-a
(or C-b for default configuration).

 On the PC I cannot use screen because C-a is not
 recognized as command prefix.

 I would like to have the choice on both system what terminal
 multiplexer to use.

I would say you only need tmux, it is superior, but that is personal choice.


 What can cause this weird behaviour? How can I fix it?



 Thank you very much in advance for any help!
 Best regards,
 mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Was Vim compiled with +eval feature?

2014-10-05 Thread Jc García
2014-10-05 22:18 GMT-06:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com:
 I have downloaded the snippet plugin from
 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=361
 and have done all the steps described there to
 install it but, unfortunately, it does not work.

Stop installing vim plug-ins manually.  use one of the plug-in
installers out there, pathogen[1] is really nice and easy to use,
basically you just do 'git clone' the repo of the plug-in in
~/.vim/bundle/
and have this  at the top of your .vimrc
execute pathogen#infect()

Plus you can upgrade your plugins easily 'git fetch  git pull' (I
made a small script that handles this for any plug-ins I have
installed)
I also use the snippet[2] plugin, and cloned/upgrade it from github.
[1] https://github.com/tpope/vim-pathogen
[2] https://github.com/honza/vim-snippets



Re: [gentoo-user] Was Vim compiled with +eval feature?

2014-10-05 Thread Jc García
2014-10-05 22:42 GMT-06:00 Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com:
 2014-10-05 22:18 GMT-06:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com:
 I have downloaded the snippet plugin from
 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=361
 and have done all the steps described there to
 install it but, unfortunately, it does not work.

 Stop installing vim plug-ins manually.  use one of the plug-in
 installers out there, pathogen[1] is really nice and easy to use,
 basically you just do 'git clone' the repo of the plug-in in
 ~/.vim/bundle/
 and have this  at the top of your .vimrc
 execute pathogen#infect()

 Plus you can upgrade your plugins easily 'git fetch  git pull' (I
 made a small script that handles this for any plug-ins I have
 installed)
 I also use the snippet[2] plugin, and cloned/upgrade it from github.
 [1] https://github.com/tpope/vim-pathogen
 [2] https://github.com/honza/vim-snippets
Forgot to mention, the snippets plugin works together with the snipmate[1] one.
[1] https://github.com/garbas/vim-snipmate