Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
151105 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I think the 1TB SDD is expensive + CAD 177.99 warranty. > I don't know if I need warranty or why they are charging me for it ? I got an extended warranty ( 15 % purchase price) on the CPU + Mobo only. You shouldn't need it for anything else. > Here is my pricing in CAD > > - INWIN BL631 Low Power Micro ATX Case w/300W power supply$ 84.99 > - Gigabit GA-78LMT-USB3 w/DDR3, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan$ 79.99 > - Samsung 850 EVO Series Solid State Drive 1-TB $499.99 > - LG GH240 SuperMulti 24x DVD Writer, SATA$ 24.99 > - Kingston HyperX FURY Black 16GB DDR3-1600MHz CL 10 Dual Channel > 4 x 8 GB Total 32 GB RAM $225.98 > - AMD FX-6300 Processor 3.5GHz w/ 14MB Cache $144.99 > - Asus GeForce GT610 CMS 2GB PCI-E w/ DVI HDMI$ 69.99 > - assembly$ 40.00 > - Warranty ???$177.99 > = > TOTAL$1348.91 > ADS for CPU v2 (WHAT IS THAT?) $4.40 > GST$67.67 > = > GRAND TOTAL: $1420.98 > > PS. Expensive like for a small box. > Maybe I don't need 32GB or RAM but even 16GB RAM would save me only $112.99 "only" ?! -- I'ld save that much any day. You don't need 32 : try 16 . > You might be right, maybe I'll add one HDD for backup (good suggestion). > The killer is my 1TB SSD CAD 499.99 You don't need 1 TB for the SSD ! Mine is 240 GB , which is plenty. Here are my partitions : GB SSD sda 1 boot 1 /boot 2 root 50 / (incl opt usr var) 3 swap 8 swap 5 home 60 /home 6 vault 20 /home/purslow/vault 7 local 20 /usr/local 8 src 10 /usr/src 9 portage 20 /usr/portage (distfiles 5,8) 10 z 35 /z total224 tmpfs -- /tmp HDD sdb 1 data 20 /home/purslow/... 2 y300 /y 3 Mint 20 /mnt/mint 5 Mageia20 /mnt/mageia unused 660 total 1000 All fmt'd Reiser, except sda1 ext2 , sda3 swap , sdb3/5 ext4 'vault' is where I move stuff I'm not using at the moment : work I've finished, downloaded material I haven't got to yet. 'z' is a big hangar where I throw big files around, back-ups etc ; it also contains a tmp dir for emerging LO + FF . 'data' is some extra material I don't use often. 'y' is for back-ups & is not normally mounted. Mint helped when installing Gentoo, Mageia is sentimental : both mb useful to show friends who ask re Linux. All the sizes are really overkill for what I actually use. HTH -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
On Thursday 05 Nov 2015 23:45:11 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I'm putting a new box, it will run Gentoo (hylafax, Asterisk) and > Windows 7 in VirtualBox (mainly). Box will run 24/7. > > Below are the components. Will I have a problem with any of them or is > there a better choice? > (the box need to be small as I don't have much room). > > - INWIN BL631 Low Power Micro ATX Case w/300W power supply What is the PSU? For a 24-7 server/workstation this becomes a critical component and other than your SSD a cause of early failure. Buy something with good quality capacitors (Japanese), or be prepared to get your soldering out in the not too distant future. > - Gigabit GA-78LMT-USB3 w/DDR3, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan > - Samsung 850 EVO Series Solid State Drive 1-TB Will you be eating up as much as 1-TB of data on a day to day basis? I would suggest you buy two SSDs and set up a RAID1, to guard against SSD failure, plus a spinning drive for filesystems that are re-written frequently (e.g. application caches), critical data and back ups. > - LG GH240 SuperMulti 24x DVD Writer, SATA (not sure if I even need it)? If you don't need it I'd save your money and spend it on a better CPU, MoBo, and/or RAM. > - Kingston HyperX FURY Black 16GB DDR3-1600MHz CL 10 Dual Channel (4x > 8GB) Total 32GB RAM Unless you will be running large databases and websites in RAM I can't see you ever using up all of this. I'd save the money and buy faster memory (2133MHz, or 2400MHz), or if speed (O/C) is not important buy ECC memory instead. > - AMD FX-6300 Processor 3.5GHz w/ 14MB Cache A reliable workhorse and easy to O/C, but rather dated and overtaken both in performance and economy by Intel's products. If economy features in your requirements and you don't do heavy gaming you may want to consider AMD's APUs like Kaveri. In a few years you will probably save in electricity the small difference in price. You will need a better cooler for either, if you are going to O/C them. > - Asus GeForce GT610 CMS 2GB PCI-E w/ DVI HDMI -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 03:43:46 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > Maybe I don't need 32GB or RAM but even 16GB RAM would save me only > > $112.99 > > "only" ?! -- I'ld save that much any day. You don't need 32 : try > 16 . How much extra will it cost to go with 16GB and then find you need more? Thelma said she was running Windows in a VM alongside various Linux programs. It's cheaper in the long run to find you have 100% more than you need than 10% less than you need. -- Neil Bothwick deja vous - the act of forgetting someone's name /again/ despite being introduced to them several times. pgpn5tjAc7XvR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] pppoe questions
Hi, finally I got set up pppoe, which turned out to be surprisingly easy. It's working fine, though I'm getting a warning when the pppoe interface is brought up: heimdali init.d # service net.ppp0 start * Bringing up interface ppp0 * Starting pppd in ppp0 ... [ ok ] * Backgrounding ... * WARNING: net.ppp0 has started, but is inactive heimdali init.d # Why is this warning showing, and what can I do about it? How does pppoe work together with shorewall and bind? When I stop the net.ppp0 service, shorewall is automatically stopped as well. When I start net.ppp0, shorewall is not started automatically. I would like to automatically have net.ppp0 first started and then shorewall. When net.ppp0 is stopped and restarted, I also must restart the name server (bind) :( Otherwise it is unable to resolve anything. Can this somehow be avoided? If not, can this be done automatically? The log files show martian sources from a bridge device which is used for the networking of a container: [1734776.722127] IPv4: martian source 255.255.255.255 from 192.168.1.1, on dev enp2s0 [1734776.722132] ll header: : ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 0b 6b 81 c9 44 08 00 k..D.. The enp2s0 interface is used for pppoe, 192.168.1.1 is the IP of the bridge. The bridge does not have a physical network interface assigned to it. The routefilter option is enabled on all interfaces. Why would there be such a broadcast originating from the bridge, and how can I prevent it? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnupg-2.1.* nightmare
Hi, On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:57:37 +0200 Jean-Christophe Bach wrote: > I have a very similar problem, at least concerning your 2nd point > (duplicated keys). All my problems came when I updated gnupg from 1.x to > 2.x. I tried to solve them by playing with different 2.x versions but > with the last one it is broken: > > 1. I detect duplicated keys in the ring > 2. some friends told me my signature was bad > 3. I am not able to verify all the signatures with Mutt or Thunderbird > (I do not understand why it works for some signatures and not for others) > 4. with Thunderbird, I am not able anymore to sign/verify/cypher/decypher > > I think that it is related to your problems, but I have no clue to fix > that. I would also appreciate any help. I got help on gnupg-users mail list on this issue, see https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2015-October/054569.html Basically you need to re-import all your public keys, *delete* old pubring.gpg file (new file format is pubring.kbx) and restart your gpg-agent: gpg --export-ownertrust >myownertrust.lst gpg --export >allmykeys.gpg rm pubring.kbx killall gpg-agent gpg --import pgpVV_dBVquiH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pppoe questions
On 6 November 2015 at 17:28, lee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> finally I got set up pppoe, which turned out to be surprisingly easy.
> It's working fine, though I'm getting a warning when the pppoe interface
> is brought up:
>
>
> heimdali init.d # service net.ppp0 start
> * Bringing up interface ppp0
> * Starting pppd in ppp0 ... [ ok ]
> * Backgrounding ...
> * WARNING: net.ppp0 has started, but is inactive
> heimdali init.d #
>
>
> Why is this warning showing, and what can I do about it?
>
this warning can be safely ignored, all it tells you is that the
service will be fully up when connection will be established.
the same state is for ethernet until the ifplugd detects connection to network.
> How does pppoe work together with shorewall and bind?
>
> When I stop the net.ppp0 service, shorewall is automatically stopped as
> well. When I start net.ppp0, shorewall is not started automatically.
>
> I would like to automatically have net.ppp0 first started and then
> shorewall.
usually the firewall service should be started before all interfaces
(except lo).
add the following to /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0:
---
rc_net_ppp0_need="firewall net.enp2s0"
---
this will make sure that the ppp0 interface is started after both
firewall and enp2s0.
I also have the following in /etc/rc.conf to avoid stopping services
while network is down:
---
rc_hotplug="!net.enp2s0 !net.ppp*"
---
> When net.ppp0 is stopped and restarted, I also must restart the name
> server (bind) :( Otherwise it is unable to resolve anything.
>
> Can this somehow be avoided? If not, can this be done automatically?
this is strange... why bind must be restarted?
I use dnsmasq and it survive network down without any issue.
but if you must, add the following to /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0:
---
postup() {
# whatever required after interface is up
return 0
}
---
>
> The log files show martian sources from a bridge device which is used
> for the networking of a container:
>
>
> [1734776.722127] IPv4: martian source 255.255.255.255 from 192.168.1.1, on
> dev enp2s0
> [1734776.722132] ll header: : ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 0b 6b 81 c9 44 08
> 00k..D..
>
>
> The enp2s0 interface is used for pppoe, 192.168.1.1 is the IP of the
> bridge. The bridge does not have a physical network interface assigned
> to it.
>
> The routefilter option is enabled on all interfaces. Why would there be
> such a broadcast originating from the bridge, and how can I prevent it?
not sure what you describe here, but maybe you would like to disable
spanning tree, add the following to disable spanning tree to
/etc/conf.d/br0.conf (provided br0 is the name of the bridge).
---
stp_state_br0=0
---
>
> --
> Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
> might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
>
[gentoo-user] followups via gmane broken
Hello, I can post to the gentoo-user group just fine. But gmane will not allow 'followup'. Anybody else using gmane.org having such issues? James
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
On 11/06/2015 02:04 AM, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 05 Nov 2015 23:45:11 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I'm putting a new box, it will run Gentoo (hylafax, Asterisk) and >> Windows 7 in VirtualBox (mainly). Box will run 24/7. >> >> Below are the components. Will I have a problem with any of them or is >> there a better choice? >> (the box need to be small as I don't have much room). >> >> - INWIN BL631 Low Power Micro ATX Case w/300W power supply > > What is the PSU? For a 24-7 server/workstation this becomes a critical > component and other than your SSD a cause of early failure. Buy something > with good quality capacitors (Japanese), or be prepared to get your soldering > out in the not too distant future. YES, yes that is my concern as well. Many of my boxes are running 24/7 and I have replaced PSU many time. For example I have: Intel Atom CPU 330 @1.60GHz (run 24/7 Hylafax + Asterisk) It a tiny box, has one of those external 12V power adapters, I have replaced that adapter 2-times and my the PS fried as well at the same time, so I think PS was responsible for it. I have now SSD 250GB in it. So yes, I would like to find good power supply with JAPANESE capacitors if possible. That Chinese piece of CRAP doesn't last long. Any recommendation for PSU with JAPANESE capacitors? My problem is I'm buying a small case again: INWIN BL631 Low Power Micro ATX Case 13" x 3.8" x 14.4" so I don't know if I'll have very many choices when it comes to PSU >> - Gigabit GA-78LMT-USB3 w/DDR3, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan >> - Samsung 850 EVO Series Solid State Drive 1-TB > > Will you be eating up as much as 1-TB of data on a day to day basis? I would > suggest you buy two SSDs and set up a RAID1, to guard against SSD failure, > plus a spinning drive for filesystems that are re-written frequently (e.g. > application caches), critical data and back ups. I don't have that much experience with RAID so if something goes wrong by the time I trouble shoot it what when wrong and how to fix it, it might take some time (a day+ or so); I can not afford it. My solution is to run two boxes if one goes down to switch to another box takes me only 15min. > > >> - LG GH240 SuperMulti 24x DVD Writer, SATA (not sure if I even need it)? > > If you don't need it I'd save your money and spend it on a better CPU, MoBo, > and/or RAM. > > >> - Kingston HyperX FURY Black 16GB DDR3-1600MHz CL 10 Dual Channel (4x >> 8GB) Total 32GB RAM > > Unless you will be running large databases and websites in RAM I can't see > you > ever using up all of this. I'd save the money and buy faster memory > (2133MHz, > or 2400MHz), or if speed (O/C) is not important buy ECC memory instead. Good suggestion. > >> - AMD FX-6300 Processor 3.5GHz w/ 14MB Cache > > A reliable workhorse and easy to O/C, but rather dated and overtaken both in > performance and economy by Intel's products. If economy features in your > requirements and you don't do heavy gaming you may want to consider AMD's > APUs > like Kaveri. In a few years you will probably save in electricity the small > difference in price. Are Intel's CPU better now-a-days? What is the difference: AMD FX-6300 Vishera is 6-Core CPU AMD A10-7850K Kaveri Quad-Core 3.7 GHz according to: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-A10-7850K AMD FX-6300 is the winner (I'm not an expert on it). > > You will need a better cooler for either, if you are going to O/C them. No, I have no need for over-clocking > > >> - Asus GeForce GT610 CMS 2GB PCI-E w/ DVI HDMI Most of the new video cards have only DVI or HDMI connections. On my current setup I have two boxes using an old 9-pin (??) video connection/cable connected via KVM switch, so quick hitting "2x Scroll Lock" allows me for quick switching between them. If I replace the box with DVI/HDMI connection I'll be looking for a new KVM hybrid switch (if one exist) or a different solution. I only want one mouse/monitor/keyboard to access them. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnupg-2.1.* nightmare
On Friday 06 Nov 2015 15:38:58 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:57:37 +0200 Jean-Christophe Bach wrote: > > I have a very similar problem, at least concerning your 2nd point > > (duplicated keys). All my problems came when I updated gnupg from 1.x to > > 2.x. I tried to solve them by playing with different 2.x versions but > > with the last one it is broken: > > > > 1. I detect duplicated keys in the ring > > 2. some friends told me my signature was bad > > 3. I am not able to verify all the signatures with Mutt or Thunderbird > > (I do not understand why it works for some signatures and not for others) > > 4. with Thunderbird, I am not able anymore to sign/verify/cypher/decypher > > > > I think that it is related to your problems, but I have no clue to fix > > that. I would also appreciate any help. > > I got help on gnupg-users mail list on this issue, see > https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2015-October/054569.html > > Basically you need to re-import all your public keys, *delete* old > pubring.gpg file (new file format is pubring.kbx) and restart your > gpg-agent: > > gpg --export-ownertrust >myownertrust.lst > gpg --export >allmykeys.gpg > rm pubring.kbx > killall gpg-agent > gpg --import > First command is a backup in case something will go wrong. > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko Thank you for letting us know about this. I have not yet updated to 2.1.* so don't know if my systems are affected. Is there an e-news item or an ebuild message to notify the user? Perhaps you need to raise a bug, unless this problem occurs only on some setups. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Bind stole my /
Hi Gentoo-users, I noted one strange thing today: It seems one of my servers lost "/"! vs5-dns ~ # df Filesystem1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on /var/log/named 10138552 2223148 7377344 24% /chroot/dns/var/log/named tmpfs308196 420307776 1% /run dev 10240 0 10240 0% /dev shm 1540968 0 1540968 0% /dev/shm cgroup_root 10240 0 10240 0% /sys/fs/cgroup none1048576 0 1048576 0% /var/tmp/portage And it seems I found the thief who stole it: vs5-dns ~ # /etc/init.d/named stop * Caching service dependencies ...[ ok ] * Stopping chrooted named ... * Umounting chroot dirs ... * umounting /chroot/dns/etc/bind ... [ ok ] * umounting /chroot/dns/var/log/named ... [ ok ] * umounting /chroot/dns/var/bind ... [ ok ] vs5-dns ~ # df Filesystem1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 10138552 2223140 7377352 24% / tmpfs308196 416307780 1% /run dev 10240 0 10240 0% /dev shm 1540968 0 1540968 0% /dev/shm cgroup_root 10240 0 10240 0% /sys/fs/cgroup none1048576 0 1048576 0% /var/tmp/portage vs5-dns ~ # /etc/init.d/named start * Starting chrooted named ... * Mounting chroot dirs * mounting /etc/bind to /chroot/dns/etc/bind [ ok ] * mounting /var/bind to /chroot/dns/var/bind [ ok ] * mounting /var/log/named to /chroot/dns/var/log/named [ ok ] * Checking named configuration ... [ ok ] vs5-dns ~ # df Filesystem1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on /var/log/named 10138552 2223160 7377332 24% /chroot/dns/var/log/named tmpfs308196 420307776 1% /run dev 10240 0 10240 0% /dev shm 1540968 0 1540968 0% /dev/shm cgroup_root 10240 0 10240 0% /sys/fs/cgroup none1048576 0 1048576 0% /var/tmp/portage vs5-dns ~ # So it seems whenever chrooted bind/named is running, "/" simply dissapeares from the list of mounted filesystem. Instead of it, chrooted /var/log/named is listed. Is this correct behaviour??? This is a little problem for me, as I run monitoring software which (appart from other things) check filesystems if they are not close to being full. With bind/named running it complains it can not find "/" in df output. I'd like to get my "/" back, but I do not know how to do it... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
[gentoo-user] Re: followups via gmane broken
James writes: > Hello, > > I can post to the gentoo-user group just fine. > But gmane will not allow 'followup'. Anybody else using gmane.org > having such issues? Followup like this? -- Alberto
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
On Friday 06 Nov 2015 16:32:25 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 11/06/2015 02:04 AM, Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 05 Nov 2015 23:45:11 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > It a tiny box, has one of those external 12V power adapters, I have > replaced that adapter 2-times and my the PS fried as well at the same > time, so I think PS was responsible for it. I have now SSD 250GB in it. These often overheat, which shortens the life of the capacitors. If you have a steady hand you're better off soldering new capacitors in them and they will outlast anything you buy in a shop. Break the glued joint and buy equivalent capacitors that you can physically fit in the constrained space envelop of the PSU. I usually buy Panasonic branded caps and they have done me proud so far. > So yes, I would like to find good power supply with JAPANESE capacitors > if possible. That Chinese piece of CRAP doesn't last long. There was a spat with bad PSUs that caused problems in the past, but I believe that these problems have been resolved. http://www.corsair.com/en/blog/2013/december/power-supply-capacitor-q-and-a > Any recommendation for PSU with JAPANESE capacitors? Have a look at Corsair, but there are others too. The more expensive units have Japanese caps throughout: http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/power-supply-units > >> - Gigabit GA-78LMT-USB3 w/DDR3, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan > >> - Samsung 850 EVO Series Solid State Drive 1-TB > > > > Will you be eating up as much as 1-TB of data on a day to day basis? I > > would suggest you buy two SSDs and set up a RAID1, to guard against SSD > > failure, plus a spinning drive for filesystems that are re-written > > frequently (e.g. application caches), critical data and back ups. > > I don't have that much experience with RAID so if something goes wrong > by the time I trouble shoot it what when wrong and how to fix it, it > might take some time (a day+ or so); I can not afford it. > > My solution is to run two boxes if one goes down to switch to another > box takes me only 15min. Well, there isn't much to running RAID 1. You'll know when one disk failed because you can program it to email you and because performance will degrade. You can have a 3rd drive installed as a spare and it will automatically switch over. Alternatively, the moment you find out one of your disks failed you make a back up of the one which is still running. > >> - LG GH240 SuperMulti 24x DVD Writer, SATA (not sure if I even need it)? > > > > If you don't need it I'd save your money and spend it on a better CPU, > > MoBo, and/or RAM. > > > >> - Kingston HyperX FURY Black 16GB DDR3-1600MHz CL 10 Dual Channel (4x > >> 8GB) Total 32GB RAM > > > > Unless you will be running large databases and websites in RAM I can't > > see you ever using up all of this. I'd save the money and buy faster > > memory (2133MHz, or 2400MHz), or if speed (O/C) is not important buy ECC > > memory instead. > > Good suggestion. > > >> - AMD FX-6300 Processor 3.5GHz w/ 14MB Cache > > > > A reliable workhorse and easy to O/C, but rather dated and overtaken both > > in performance and economy by Intel's products. If economy features in > > your requirements and you don't do heavy gaming you may want to consider > > AMD's APUs like Kaveri. In a few years you will probably save in > > electricity the small difference in price. > > Are Intel's CPU better now-a-days? Yes, I would think so. Both in terms of single core performance, multi-core performance and power consumption. > What is the difference: > AMD FX-6300 Vishera is 6-Core CPU > AMD A10-7850K Kaveri Quad-Core 3.7 GHz > > according to: > http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-A10-7850K > AMD FX-6300 is the winner (I'm not an expert on it). Well, they can both be O/C'ed easily, (I have a Kaveri here running at 4200MHz) and it outperforms the FX-6300 in terms of single core throughput. It also does not need a graphics card (unless you're a gamer) hence you save GPU money there. > > You will need a better cooler for either, if you are going to O/C them. > > No, I have no need for over-clocking > > >> - Asus GeForce GT610 CMS 2GB PCI-E w/ DVI HDMI > > Most of the new video cards have only DVI or HDMI connections. > On my current setup I have two boxes using an old 9-pin (??) video > connection/cable connected via KVM switch, so quick hitting "2x Scroll > Lock" allows me for quick switching between them. If I replace the box > with DVI/HDMI connection I'll be looking for a new KVM hybrid switch (if > one exist) or a different solution. I only want one > mouse/monitor/keyboard to access them. There are VGA to DVI converters if this is what you need? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] problem which makes gnome unusable
Hi. I am having a very bad problem which makes gnome unusable -- once I get into the virtual console where the xserver is displaying gnome, console 12 in my case, I can never get out of that console -- control-alt-f1 or anything does not work. If I try to ssh in from somewhere else, I cannot stop gdm because the x server will not stop -- even kill -9 will not stop it and I have to reboot the system. I am using an nvidia card with the closed source module, if that makes any difference. I re-emerged the keyboard and evdev driver, but that made no difference. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: problem which makes gnome unusable
On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:45:43 -0500 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi. I am having a very bad problem which makes gnome unusable -- > once I get into the virtual console where the xserver is displaying > gnome, console 12 in my case, I can never get out of that console -- > control-alt-f1 or anything does not work. If I try to ssh in from > somewhere else, I cannot stop gdm because the x server will not stop > -- even kill -9 will not stop it and I have to reboot the system. The part about kill -9 failing is exactly the problem I had with the 3.18.x kernel series a while ago. I know this problem must be hardware specific because some distros are still shipping 3.18 kernels as the default, and I'll bet others in this mailing list are using it without problems too. I had some scary problems with that kernel version that were very difficult to diagnose until I just rebooted with an older kernel and the scary problems vanished. The 4.2 series seems okay so far on my VMs. (Even my gentoo VMs had some minor problems with 3.18.x)
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 11/06/2015 02:04 AM, Mick wrote: >> On Thursday 05 Nov 2015 23:45:11 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> I'm putting a new box, it will run Gentoo (hylafax, Asterisk) and >>> Windows 7 in VirtualBox (mainly). Box will run 24/7. >>> >>> Below are the components. Will I have a problem with any of them or is >>> there a better choice? >>> (the box need to be small as I don't have much room). >>> >>> - INWIN BL631 Low Power Micro ATX Case w/300W power supply >> What is the PSU? For a 24-7 server/workstation this becomes a critical >> component and other than your SSD a cause of early failure. Buy something >> with good quality capacitors (Japanese), or be prepared to get your >> soldering >> out in the not too distant future. > YES, yes that is my concern as well. Many of my boxes are running 24/7 > and I have replaced PSU many time. > For example I have: Intel Atom CPU 330 @1.60GHz (run 24/7 Hylafax + > Asterisk) > It a tiny box, has one of those external 12V power adapters, I have > replaced that adapter 2-times and my the PS fried as well at the same > time, so I think PS was responsible for it. I have now SSD 250GB in it. > > So yes, I would like to find good power supply with JAPANESE capacitors > if possible. That Chinese piece of CRAP doesn't last long. > > Any recommendation for PSU with JAPANESE capacitors? > My problem is I'm buying a small case again: > INWIN BL631 Low Power Micro ATX Case 13" x 3.8" x 14.4" > > so I don't know if I'll have very many choices when it comes to PSU > <<>> > -- > Thelma > > You may want to look at the reviews here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Review_Cat&recatnum=13 They test these themselves and if they pass their tests, they should be good. Also, they take them apart to see what parts are in there. That will give you a clue if it has good high quality caps in it or not. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem which makes gnome unusable
walt wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:45:43 -0500 > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Hi. I am having a very bad problem which makes gnome unusable -- > > once I get into the virtual console where the xserver is displaying > > gnome, console 12 in my case, I can never get out of that console -- > > control-alt-f1 or anything does not work. If I try to ssh in from > > somewhere else, I cannot stop gdm because the x server will not stop > > -- even kill -9 will not stop it and I have to reboot the system. > > The part about kill -9 failing is exactly the problem I had with the > 3.18.x kernel series a while ago. I know this problem must be hardware > specific because some distros are still shipping 3.18 kernels as the > default, and I'll bet others in this mailing list are using it without > problems too. I had some scary problems with that kernel version > that were very difficult to diagnose until I just rebooted with an > older kernel and the scary problems vanished. The 4.2 series seems > okay so far on my VMs. (Even my gentoo VMs had some minor problems with > 3.18.x) I am using 4.1.9 from gentoo sources -- do I need to downgrade maybe the server and nvidia-drivers? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
[snip] > If you don't need it I'd save your money and spend it on a better CPU, MoBo, > and/or RAM. Does Gentoo support Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller in Intel i5 I was thinking of going with Intel instead of AMD. Regarding better motherboard my preference is one that use 100% Jpanese capacitors, if I'm not mistaken Gigabit is one of them. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Regarding better motherboard my preference is one that use 100% > Jpanese capacitors, if I'm not mistaken Gigabit is one of them. Nearly six years ago I've bought four Gigabyte Ultra Durable mobos equipped with solid state capacitors. Two of these boards are running 24/7, the other two boards are running about 12h/day. All mobos are still working without any problems. So I think my next board will also be a Gigabyte UD. -- Regards wabe
[gentoo-user] Re: problem which makes gnome unusable
On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:26:43 -0500 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > walt wrote: > > > On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:45:43 -0500 > > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > Hi. I am having a very bad problem which makes gnome unusable -- > > > once I get into the virtual console where the xserver is > > > displaying gnome, console 12 in my case, I can never get out of > > > that console -- control-alt-f1 or anything does not work. If I > > > try to ssh in from somewhere else, I cannot stop gdm because the > > > x server will not stop -- even kill -9 will not stop it and I > > > have to reboot the system. > > > > The part about kill -9 failing is exactly the problem I had with the > > 3.18.x kernel series a while ago. I know this problem must be > > hardware specific because some distros are still shipping 3.18 > > kernels as the default, and I'll bet others in this mailing list > > are using it without problems too. I had some scary problems with > > that kernel version that were very difficult to diagnose until I > > just rebooted with an older kernel and the scary problems > > vanished. The 4.2 series seems okay so far on my VMs. (Even my > > gentoo VMs had some minor problems with 3.18.x) > > I am using 4.1.9 from gentoo sources -- do I need to downgrade maybe > the server and nvidia-drivers? I think downgrading xorg and a video driver sounds more complicated than trying a different kernel, but you're in a better position to know that than I am. Depends on how many packages you changed just before you noticed the problem. If you've been running kernel 4.1.9 for a while with no problems, and you just recently upgraded xorg/nvidia, then maybe that would be the simpler thing to try. If you still have some older kernels available, I personally would reboot with one of those and see if the nvidia driver will compile with that version. (You may need to reinstall/reconfigure the older kernel sources if you've already removed them.) A big PITA either way :(
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem which makes gnome unusable
walt wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:26:43 -0500 > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > walt wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:45:43 -0500 > > > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. I am having a very bad problem which makes gnome unusable -- > > > > once I get into the virtual console where the xserver is > > > > displaying gnome, console 12 in my case, I can never get out of > > > > that console -- control-alt-f1 or anything does not work. If I > > > > try to ssh in from somewhere else, I cannot stop gdm because the > > > > x server will not stop -- even kill -9 will not stop it and I > > > > have to reboot the system. > > > > > > The part about kill -9 failing is exactly the problem I had with the > > > 3.18.x kernel series a while ago. I know this problem must be > > > hardware specific because some distros are still shipping 3.18 > > > kernels as the default, and I'll bet others in this mailing list > > > are using it without problems too. I had some scary problems with > > > that kernel version that were very difficult to diagnose until I > > > just rebooted with an older kernel and the scary problems > > > vanished. The 4.2 series seems okay so far on my VMs. (Even my > > > gentoo VMs had some minor problems with 3.18.x) > > > > I am using 4.1.9 from gentoo sources -- do I need to downgrade maybe > > the server and nvidia-drivers? > > I think downgrading xorg and a video driver sounds more complicated > than trying a different kernel, but you're in a better position to know > that than I am. Depends on how many packages you changed just before > you noticed the problem. If you've been running kernel 4.1.9 for a > while with no problems, and you just recently upgraded xorg/nvidia, > then maybe that would be the simpler thing to try. > > If you still have some older kernels available, I personally would > reboot with one of those and see if the nvidia driver will compile with > that version. (You may need to reinstall/reconfigure the older kernel > sources if you've already removed them.) A big PITA either way :( I am running 4.1.9, but there is a 4.1.12 and I may go to that and try again, but you are correct, its a pita either way. In this last update, I could not keep the same x server and nvidia drivers I had which worked fine, due to portage not letting the update go through because of various slot conflicts -- very annoying. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: followups via gmane broken
On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 18:38:55 +0100 Alberto Luaces wrote: > James writes: > > I can post to the gentoo-user group just fine. > > But gmane will not allow 'followup'. Anybody else using gmane.org > > having such issues? > > Followup like this? It works fine posting through the NNTP interface as you and I are doing, but not through the web interface. Attempting to reply through the web interface just leads to a "No such file" message from the web server.
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo box
waben...@gmail.com wrote: > the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> Regarding better motherboard my preference is one that use 100% >> Jpanese capacitors, if I'm not mistaken Gigabit is one of them. > Nearly six years ago I've bought four Gigabyte Ultra Durable mobos > equipped with solid state capacitors. Two of these boards are running > 24/7, the other two boards are running about 12h/day. > > All mobos are still working without any problems. So I think my next > board will also be a Gigabyte UD. > > -- > Regards > wabe > > I have a Gigabyte 970A-UD3P. My rig runs 24/7 except when I have to shutdown due to lengthy power fail. I have a UPS but it doesn't last forever. So far, no problems. I seem to recall that UD3 is the most stable version a mobo. I think you can find a breakdown of what all the numbers/letters stand for in the mobo model number somewhere. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
