Re: [gentoo-user] Copy of older amdgpu-pro

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Carter 
> > I've uploaded it for your convenience.
> >
> > https://keybase.pub/agates/amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-306809.tar.xz
> >
>
> Oops, it looks like mine is slightly older than what you're looking for.
>  Hmm.
>
>
There's ebuilds for that version too - i'll try it if i cant get the later
file.

Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] Copy of older amdgpu-pro

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Carter 
>
> It's actually still available from AMD. Maybe not actually linked.
>
> Using google, I found a forum-post on ubuntu mentioning it and the
> following
> worked for me:
>
> wget https://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-315407.tar.xz
>

Yes i already tried that, but it fails for me. Can you let me know what
www2.ati.com resolves to for you?

Re: [gentoo-user] Copy of older amdgpu-pro

2016-10-31 Thread J. Roeleveld 
On Tuesday, November 01, 2016 05:24:15 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On November 1, 2016 5:35:49 AM GMT+01:00, Adam Carter 
 wrote:
> >The farmboy0 and vulcan overlays are looking for
> >amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-315407.tar.xz but i can only find the current
> >driver,
> >amdgpu-pro-16.40-348864.tar.xz on amd's site. Is the older file still
> >available anywhere?
> 
> Did you try google?
> 
> That usually works to find older files.

It's actually still available from AMD. Maybe not actually linked.

Using google, I found a forum-post on ubuntu mentioning it and the following 
worked for me:

wget https://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-315407.tar.xz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copy of older amdgpu-pro

2016-10-31 Thread Alecks Gates 
On 11/01/2016 12:38 AM, Alecks Gates wrote:
> On 10/31/2016 11:35 PM, Adam Carter wrote:
>> The farmboy0 and vulcan overlays are looking for
>> amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-315407.tar.xz but i can only find the current driver,
>> amdgpu-pro-16.40-348864.tar.xz on amd's site. Is the older file still
>> available anywhere?
> 
> I've uploaded it for your convenience.
> 
> https://keybase.pub/agates/amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-306809.tar.xz
> 

Oops, it looks like mine is slightly older than what you're looking for.
 Hmm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copy of older amdgpu-pro

2016-10-31 Thread Alecks Gates 
On 10/31/2016 11:35 PM, Adam Carter wrote:
> The farmboy0 and vulcan overlays are looking for
> amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-315407.tar.xz but i can only find the current driver,
> amdgpu-pro-16.40-348864.tar.xz on amd's site. Is the older file still
> available anywhere?

I've uploaded it for your convenience.

https://keybase.pub/agates/amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-306809.tar.xz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copy of older amdgpu-pro

2016-10-31 Thread J. Roeleveld 
On November 1, 2016 5:35:49 AM GMT+01:00, Adam Carter  
wrote:
>The farmboy0 and vulcan overlays are looking for
>amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-315407.tar.xz but i can only find the current
>driver,
>amdgpu-pro-16.40-348864.tar.xz on amd's site. Is the older file still
>available anywhere?

Did you try google?

That usually works to find older files.

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[gentoo-user] Copy of older amdgpu-pro

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Carter 
The farmboy0 and vulcan overlays are looking for
amdgpu-pro_16.30.3-315407.tar.xz but i can only find the current driver,
amdgpu-pro-16.40-348864.tar.xz on amd's site. Is the older file still
available anywhere?

Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread John Covici 
On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:33:44 -0400,
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> On 01/11/2016 00:27, John Covici wrote:
> > On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:06:07 -0400,
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>
> >> On 31/10/2016 23:57, John Covici wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:37:50 -0400,
> >>> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> 
>  Dale  [16-10-31 18:36]:
> > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
> >> to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
> >>
> >> Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
> >> "all you can eat" ::)) ?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Meino
> >>
> >>
> >
> > While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
> > either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
> > sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
> > that I have seen. 
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-) 
> >
> 
>  Great! Currently rebuilding the kernel with '-j7 ' :)
> >>>
> >>> I wonder, how does it make sure that a dependency is always compiled
> >>> before  what depends on it, so the link and all that works?
> >>>
> >>
> >> The kernel is special - it's a completely self-contained body of code
> >> with no external dependencies, so it is internally consistency almost as
> >> a matter of course.
> >>
> >> As for compiling the right things in the right order, the Makefiles take
> >> care of that just like all other software with a build system. How does
> >> the Makefile get made? Well, when you do make config, you see
> >> all those deps like how iwlwifi depends on 80211 which depends on
> >> networking etc. That tells you the order things must be built in. Shove
> >> that into a Makefile maker, and voila, Bob's your auntie. Build issues
> >> tends to get fixed during the dev period so when Linux releases a kernel
> >> there's an excellent chance it will build correctly.
> >>
> >> FWIW, none of this is a specially difficult problem. It's the kind of
> >> thing I'd expect bright CS students to be able to do at the end of the
> >> first year
> > 
> > OK, I will maybe try something, but I have had gentoo problems only
> > solved by -j1 due to such things, I guess.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> With the kernel? Very very highly unlikely. If you had that problem,
> there is something wrong with your setup and I'd be very reluctant jump
> at the kernel Makefiles being the problem.
> 
> Now if you said you had that problem with libreoffice, I'd agree 100%.
> The kernel? No.
> 
> 
> and btw, emerge problems that are solved using -j1 are
> a) not gentoo problems at all
> b) neither are they compiler problems
> c) they are always build problems caused by the package's own shitty
> build system and by upstream devs that never heard of this idea called
> "test your stuff to make sure it works in the real world"

I am sure you are correct, I have never tried this with the kernel, so
that will be an experiment for me.

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Alan McKinnon 
On 01/11/2016 00:27, John Covici wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:06:07 -0400,
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> On 31/10/2016 23:57, John Covici wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:37:50 -0400,
>>> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 Dale  [16-10-31 18:36]:
> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
>> to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
>>
>> Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
>> "all you can eat" ::)) ?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Meino
>>
>>
>
> While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
> either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
> sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
> that I have seen. 
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>

 Great! Currently rebuilding the kernel with '-j7 ' :)
>>>
>>> I wonder, how does it make sure that a dependency is always compiled
>>> before  what depends on it, so the link and all that works?
>>>
>>
>> The kernel is special - it's a completely self-contained body of code
>> with no external dependencies, so it is internally consistency almost as
>> a matter of course.
>>
>> As for compiling the right things in the right order, the Makefiles take
>> care of that just like all other software with a build system. How does
>> the Makefile get made? Well, when you do make config, you see
>> all those deps like how iwlwifi depends on 80211 which depends on
>> networking etc. That tells you the order things must be built in. Shove
>> that into a Makefile maker, and voila, Bob's your auntie. Build issues
>> tends to get fixed during the dev period so when Linux releases a kernel
>> there's an excellent chance it will build correctly.
>>
>> FWIW, none of this is a specially difficult problem. It's the kind of
>> thing I'd expect bright CS students to be able to do at the end of the
>> first year
> 
> OK, I will maybe try something, but I have had gentoo problems only
> solved by -j1 due to such things, I guess.
> 



With the kernel? Very very highly unlikely. If you had that problem,
there is something wrong with your setup and I'd be very reluctant jump
at the kernel Makefiles being the problem.

Now if you said you had that problem with libreoffice, I'd agree 100%.
The kernel? No.


and btw, emerge problems that are solved using -j1 are
a) not gentoo problems at all
b) neither are they compiler problems
c) they are always build problems caused by the package's own shitty
build system and by upstream devs that never heard of this idea called
"test your stuff to make sure it works in the real world"

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Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread John Covici 
On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:06:07 -0400,
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> On 31/10/2016 23:57, John Covici wrote:
> > On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:37:50 -0400,
> > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >>
> >> Dale  [16-10-31 18:36]:
> >>> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
>  to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
> 
>  Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
>  "all you can eat" ::)) ?
> 
>  Cheers
>  Meino
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>> While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
> >>> either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
> >>> sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
> >>> that I have seen. 
> >>>
> >>> Dale
> >>>
> >>> :-)  :-) 
> >>>
> >>
> >> Great! Currently rebuilding the kernel with '-j7 ' :)
> > 
> > I wonder, how does it make sure that a dependency is always compiled
> > before  what depends on it, so the link and all that works?
> > 
> 
> The kernel is special - it's a completely self-contained body of code
> with no external dependencies, so it is internally consistency almost as
> a matter of course.
> 
> As for compiling the right things in the right order, the Makefiles take
> care of that just like all other software with a build system. How does
> the Makefile get made? Well, when you do make config, you see
> all those deps like how iwlwifi depends on 80211 which depends on
> networking etc. That tells you the order things must be built in. Shove
> that into a Makefile maker, and voila, Bob's your auntie. Build issues
> tends to get fixed during the dev period so when Linux releases a kernel
> there's an excellent chance it will build correctly.
> 
> FWIW, none of this is a specially difficult problem. It's the kind of
> thing I'd expect bright CS students to be able to do at the end of the
> first year

OK, I will maybe try something, but I have had gentoo problems only
solved by -j1 due to such things, I guess.

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RE: [gentoo-user] A List of Module Descriptions

2016-10-31 Thread Hunter Jozwiak 


-Original Message-
From: Fernando Rodriguez [mailto:cyklon...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 17:48
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A List of Module Descriptions

On 10/31/2016 04:07 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> In my quest to install Gentoo and get it chugging along, I am 
> wondering if there is a database that explains what a particular 
> kernel module does so that I don't break something that doesn't need 
> to be changed or enable something that I ought not to have enabled.
> 

Select the module option in the "make menuconfig" UI and press the ? key.

> 
> Hunter
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Alan McKinnon 
On 31/10/2016 23:57, John Covici wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:37:50 -0400,
> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>
>> Dale  [16-10-31 18:36]:
>>> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
 to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.

 Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
 "all you can eat" ::)) ?

 Cheers
 Meino


>>>
>>> While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
>>> either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
>>> sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
>>> that I have seen. 
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-) 
>>>
>>
>> Great! Currently rebuilding the kernel with '-j7 ' :)
> 
> I wonder, how does it make sure that a dependency is always compiled
> before  what depends on it, so the link and all that works?
> 

The kernel is special - it's a completely self-contained body of code
with no external dependencies, so it is internally consistency almost as
a matter of course.

As for compiling the right things in the right order, the Makefiles take
care of that just like all other software with a build system. How does
the Makefile get made? Well, when you do make config, you see
all those deps like how iwlwifi depends on 80211 which depends on
networking etc. That tells you the order things must be built in. Shove
that into a Makefile maker, and voila, Bob's your auntie. Build issues
tends to get fixed during the dev period so when Linux releases a kernel
there's an excellent chance it will build correctly.

FWIW, none of this is a specially difficult problem. It's the kind of
thing I'd expect bright CS students to be able to do at the end of the
first year



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Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread John Covici 
On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:37:50 -0400,
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> 
> Dale  [16-10-31 18:36]:
> > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
> > > to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
> > >
> > > Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
> > > "all you can eat" ::)) ?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Meino
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
> > either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
> > sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
> > that I have seen. 
> > 
> > Dale
> > 
> > :-)  :-) 
> > 
> 
> Great! Currently rebuilding the kernel with '-j7 ' :)

I wonder, how does it make sure that a dependency is always compiled
before  what depends on it, so the link and all that works?

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Re: [gentoo-user] A List of Module Descriptions

2016-10-31 Thread Fernando Rodriguez 
On 10/31/2016 04:07 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> In my quest to install Gentoo and get it chugging along, I am wondering
> if there is a database that explains what a particular kernel module
> does so that I don’t break something that doesn’t need to be changed or
> enable something that I ought not to have enabled.
> 

Select the module option in the "make menuconfig" UI and press the ? key.

> 
> Hunter
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[gentoo-user] A List of Module Descriptions

2016-10-31 Thread Hunter Jozwiak 
Hi,

 

In my quest to install Gentoo and get it chugging along, I am wondering if
there is a database that explains what a particular kernel module does so
that I don't break something that doesn't need to be changed or enable
something that I ought not to have enabled.

 

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Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Meino . Cramer 
Hunter Jozwiak  [16-10-31 18:48]:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: meino.cra...@gmx.de [mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de] 
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 13:07
> To: Gentoo 
> Subject: [gentoo-user] make -j  for kernel builds?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable to compile a
> linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
> 
> Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with "all you can eat" ::))
> ?
> 
> Cheers
> Meino
> 
> 
> I was wondering the same thing, as when I tried to compile my kernel it
> panicked at boot; though this was probably my inexperience with building
> them.
> 
> 
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> 

Now I am currently running my freshly booted, "fast compiled" kernel ---
currently no problems.

(vanilla 4.8.6)

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Daniel Frey 
On 10/31/2016 10:35 AM, Dale wrote:
> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
>> to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
>>
>> Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
>> "all you can eat" ::)) ?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Meino
>>
>>
> 
> While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
> either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
> sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
> that I have seen. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 

Not too long ago I ran -j33 on a new server at work, and built a kernel
in 47 seconds. I booted from that kernel and it worked fine.

Sometimes I forget to pass the -j parameter though at home. Then wonder
why it takes a while...

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Meino . Cramer 
Dale  [16-10-31 18:36]:
> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
> > to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
> >
> > Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
> > "all you can eat" ::)) ?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Meino
> >
> >
> 
> While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
> either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
> sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
> that I have seen. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 

Great! Currently rebuilding the kernel with '-j7 ' :)

Cheers
Meino

RE: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Hunter Jozwiak 


-Original Message-
From: meino.cra...@gmx.de [mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 13:07
To: Gentoo 
Subject: [gentoo-user] make -j  for kernel builds?

Hi,

from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable to compile a
linux kernel with more than one cpu core.

Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with "all you can eat" ::))
?

Cheers
Meino


I was wondering the same thing, as when I tried to compile my kernel it
panicked at boot; though this was probably my inexperience with building
them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Dale 
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
> to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
>
> Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
> "all you can eat" ::)) ?
>
> Cheers
> Meino
>
>

While I don't upgrade my kernel very often, since I don't reboot often
either, I've used -j 6 for my 4 core CPU for a long time.  I'm pretty
sure I've done that ever since I built this rig.  So far, no problems
that I have seen. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Dutch Ingraham 
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 06:06:45PM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
> to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.
> 
> Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
> "all you can eat" ::)) ?

That must be very ancient.  I've been following this [1] for over three years
without problems.

[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Configuration#Build

[gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

2016-10-31 Thread Meino . Cramer 
Hi,

from ancient times ;) I remember, that it is not advisable
to compile a linux kernel with more than one cpu core.

Is that still true, or is it save to compile it with
"all you can eat" ::)) ?

Cheers
Meino