[gentoo-user] certbot confusion
I don't understand the letsencrypt certbot renewal process, specifically the hooks. I have two certificates: one for webserver, one for mailserver. I got them only very recently so I until now the renewal cronjob has always been a no-op, but the real thing will happen very soon. When it does, presumably I need to have both daemons restarted so that they read the renewed certificates. So, how do I do this? Right now my cronjob is just certbot renew -n --standalone --preferred-challenges tls-sni which should renew any and all certificates when they're "close" to expiring. But the documentation doesn't say if I can have multiple --pre-hook and --post-hook options and what the semantics would be. The closest it comes is: When renewing several certificates that have identical pre-hooks, only the first will be executed. which doesn't make any sense: what does it mean for a certificate to "have" a pre-hook? The pre-hook is just there on the command line, there is no association with a particular certificate that a machine could infer. The cop-out solution is to have a single pre-hook and a single post-hook, which stop (resp. start) both daemons, but that is ugly. How do people handle this? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. Do obvious transformation on domain to reply privately _only_ on Usenet.
[gentoo-user] Re: Budgie
On 25/08/17 23:43, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Does anyone have experience with the Budgie desktop under Gentoo? Installation? Use? Reports would be nice. There's a wiki page: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Budgie but I haven't tried it myself yet.
[gentoo-user] Budgie
Hello, Does anyone have experience with the Budgie desktop under Gentoo? Installation? Use? Reports would be nice. I try the live cd of Solus OS and so looks great, but at end I want not leave Gentoo. That's why I ask. Thank you & Nice Weekend Silvio
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??
On 25/08/2017 09:21, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:12:52 PM CEST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 24/08/2017 22:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:35:23 PM CEST Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 24/08/2017 18:41, Dale wrote: >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On 24 August 2017 17:15:25 GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon >>> >>> wrote: Thunderbird. I have no formatting or storage problems as local mail is kept in dovecot imap folders and every client out there can read them. MUA incompatibilities just do not happen to me anymore. I prefer my MUA to be a reader and an editor and a sender and a fetcher. Never a storer. >>> >>> I use Cyrus IMAP for storage and postfix for SMTP. >>> My mail clients only use IMAP and SMTP to my own server. >>> >>> With multiple devices, local storage makes no sense. >>> >>> -- >>> Joost >> >> I store mine locally because I search them when I run into a issue. >> I've got emails going back to 2006. Even if my internet is down, at >> least I can search old list emails to see if I can find a clue to fix >> what I'm running into. Of course when you do that, you run into this: >> >> root@fireball / # du -shc >> /home/dale/.mozilla/seamonkey/q6o6ulhz.default/Mail/ >> 3.9G/home/dale/.mozilla/seamonkey/q6o6ulhz.default/Mail/ >> 3.9Gtotal >> root@fireball / # > > 4G is that all??? > > pressed for space much? :-) I don't recall the limits on gmail but I know sometimes, I have to go clean house on the google web mail site itself. It is supposed to delete after downloading but sometimes it doesn't for some reason. Who knows. >>> >>> GMail used to be at 1GB when they started. Already back then that would >>> not >>> have been enough for me. My mailstore has been cleaned up occasionally >>> (spam and alert-mails being cleaned up regularly): >>> >>> mailstore1 ~ # du -sh /var/spool/imap/j/user/joost >>> 42G /var/spool/imap/j/user/joost >>> >>> (This is only my personal email, the email archive of my wife and the >>> shared stuff isn't in this) >> >> If I let them, the eejits running the telco where I work would dump that >> much mail in my inbox yearly![1] But it's Office 365[2] and they pay, so >> I don't care - stupid must feel pain[3] > > Office365... company I work for uses that. > We got bought by another company that migrated over last week... > > I STILL have 2 seperate accounts, good thing Office365 supports POP3. I'll do > the integration myself. > >> [1] The eejits all feel so important they HAVE TO announce to the whole >> company as a mail every change in every procedure, every new >> appointment, every marketing splurb and every event being held. All in >> HTML with pictures and shit, and giant sigs. And half the eejit >> recipients feel the need to reply to all saying only "Ooooh! shiny!" > > Let me guess, there is also the obligatory disclaimer about how the email is > only for the intended recipient in lawyer-speak which means every email gets > at least twice the size (for most emails, that text is actually 80-90% of the > entire volume. Bingo. Yeah that. But see, there's a problem with the lawyer speak. Any mail in my inbox was addressed to alan.mckin...@example.com, which is me, and that automatically makes me the correct recipient. I cannot know who the intended recipient is, because I can't divine the sender's intent, so I must go by the recipient address. And that is always me > >> [2] Which has still to learn the trick of how to delete all attachments >> except the first copt> > Always useful. I got filesystem compression enabled for the mailstore, which > works quite well: > san1 ~ # zfs get all zdata/services/mailstore1/imapmail | grep compressratio > > > zdata/services/mailstore1/imapmail compressratio 1.25x > > zdata/services/mailstore1/imapmail refcompressratio 1.31x On second thoughts, Office365 does de-dup, which works amazingly well for corporate mailstores. One real copy (the first) of each disk block in the sig, and 10,000 pointers to it :-) > >> [3] In this case, I'd be willing to >> s/pain/enormous amounts of pain, on shaming youtube video/g > > Don't forget to share the link to that video... I don't have it yet, but for a good giggle meanwhile, search YouTube for "7 parallel green lines" What a hoot! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??
On Friday, 25 August 2017 08:21:53 BST J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:12:52 PM CEST Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > [3] In this case, I'd be willing to
> > s/pain/enormous amounts of pain, on shaming youtube video/g
>
> Don't forget to share the link to that video...
>
> --
> Joost
It'll go viral! :-)
Meanwhile, here's an example of the sort of MSWindows mailers I was talking
about. It states it's multipart, OK nothing wrong with that. Then,
supposedly the text/plain follows, or ... does it?!
Subject: Confirmation of your order: A3338348521
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="=_Part_3229_1398402695.1503664073222"
X-ATG-MailingId: 374481625
--=_Part_3229_1398402695.1503664073222
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
/* Client-specific Styles */ #outlook a { padding: 0; } /* Force
Outlook to provide a "view in browser" menu link. */ body { width:
100% !important; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -ms-text-size-adjust:
100%; margin: 0; padding: 0; background-color: #fbfbfb; } /* Prevent
Webkit and Windows Mobile platforms from changing default font sizes,
while not breaking desktop design. */ .ExternalClass { width: 100%; }
/* Force Hotmail to display emails at full width */
===
Seriously? Outlook needs all this formatting just to display plain text? o_O
I bet Windows Live (or whatever it's called this semester) will show it just
fine. :-p
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??
On Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:12:52 PM CEST Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 24/08/2017 22:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:35:23 PM CEST Dale wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> On 24/08/2017 18:41, Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On 24 August 2017 17:15:25 GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > > > > wrote: > >> Thunderbird. > >> > >> I have no formatting or storage problems as local mail is kept in > >> dovecot imap folders and every client out there can read them. MUA > >> incompatibilities just do not happen to me anymore. > >> > >> I prefer my MUA to be a reader and an editor and a sender and a > >> fetcher. > >> Never a storer. > > > > I use Cyrus IMAP for storage and postfix for SMTP. > > My mail clients only use IMAP and SMTP to my own server. > > > > With multiple devices, local storage makes no sense. > > > > -- > > Joost > > I store mine locally because I search them when I run into a issue. > I've got emails going back to 2006. Even if my internet is down, at > least I can search old list emails to see if I can find a clue to fix > what I'm running into. Of course when you do that, you run into this: > > root@fireball / # du -shc > /home/dale/.mozilla/seamonkey/q6o6ulhz.default/Mail/ > 3.9G/home/dale/.mozilla/seamonkey/q6o6ulhz.default/Mail/ > 3.9Gtotal > root@fireball / # > >>> > >>> 4G is that all??? > >>> > >>> pressed for space much? :-) > >> > >> I don't recall the limits on gmail but I know sometimes, I have to go > >> clean house on the google web mail site itself. It is supposed to > >> delete after downloading but sometimes it doesn't for some reason. Who > >> knows. > > > > GMail used to be at 1GB when they started. Already back then that would > > not > > have been enough for me. My mailstore has been cleaned up occasionally > > (spam and alert-mails being cleaned up regularly): > > > > mailstore1 ~ # du -sh /var/spool/imap/j/user/joost > > 42G /var/spool/imap/j/user/joost > > > > (This is only my personal email, the email archive of my wife and the > > shared stuff isn't in this) > > If I let them, the eejits running the telco where I work would dump that > much mail in my inbox yearly![1] But it's Office 365[2] and they pay, so > I don't care - stupid must feel pain[3] Office365... company I work for uses that. We got bought by another company that migrated over last week... I STILL have 2 seperate accounts, good thing Office365 supports POP3. I'll do the integration myself. > [1] The eejits all feel so important they HAVE TO announce to the whole > company as a mail every change in every procedure, every new > appointment, every marketing splurb and every event being held. All in > HTML with pictures and shit, and giant sigs. And half the eejit > recipients feel the need to reply to all saying only "Ooooh! shiny!" Let me guess, there is also the obligatory disclaimer about how the email is only for the intended recipient in lawyer-speak which means every email gets at least twice the size (for most emails, that text is actually 80-90% of the entire volume. > [2] Which has still to learn the trick of how to delete all attachments > except the first copy Always useful. I got filesystem compression enabled for the mailstore, which works quite well: san1 ~ # zfs get all zdata/services/mailstore1/imapmail | grep compressratio zdata/services/mailstore1/imapmail compressratio 1.25x zdata/services/mailstore1/imapmail refcompressratio 1.31x > [3] In this case, I'd be willing to > s/pain/enormous amounts of pain, on shaming youtube video/g Don't forget to share the link to that video... -- Joost
