[gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread tuxic
Hi,

for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
facebook. 

And now it seems that I cant with out it:
There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer there
and veryone and everything is referencing it.

My question is:
Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
small as ever possible?

Every help is very appreciated!
Cheers
Meino





Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up claws mail

2017-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:12:25 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> On Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:27:41 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:56:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:  
> > > Yes, I have all those set right. The first thing I did was to go
> > > through all the Configuration dialogues and put values in.  
> > 
> > Screenshots please!  
> 
> Are these the ones you want?

Yes, I've just tried setting up Claws to connect to y Zen account and it
just worked. Then I looked at your screenshot and see you are using a
different host.

The information in this window is all I needed to configure.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

PCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 22 October 2017 10:50:01 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>Hi,
>
>for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
>facebook. 
>
>And now it seems that I cant with out it:
>There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer there
>and veryone and everything is referencing it.
>
>My question is:
>Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
>just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
>and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
>small as ever possible?
>
>Every help is very appreciated!
>Cheers
>Meino

Run a dedicated browser in a dedicated user account. This should isolate any 
tracking cookies from going into your main account.

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up claws mail

2017-10-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:48:32 +0100
Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:12:25 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:27:41 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:  
> > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:56:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > Yes, I have all those set right. The first thing I did was to go
> > > > through all the Configuration dialogues and put values in.
> > > 
> > > Screenshots please!
> > 
> > Are these the ones you want?  
> 
> Yes, I've just tried setting up Claws to connect to y Zen account and it
> just worked. Then I looked at your screenshot and see you are using a
> different host.

I thought the mail host names all resolved to the same host; they always
have in the past.

> The information in this window is all I needed to configure.

I deleted ~/.claws-mail and the mail folder and started again. It worked
for me too this time - Just Like That (tm). I'm using claws now. The next
thing is to work out how to use filters.

Thanks Neil.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread tuxic
On 10/22 01:58, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On 22 October 2017 10:50:01 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
> >facebook. 
> >
> >And now it seems that I cant with out it:
> >There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer there
> >and veryone and everything is referencing it.
> >
> >My question is:
> >Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
> >just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
> >and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
> >small as ever possible?
> >
> >Every help is very appreciated!
> >Cheers
> >Meino
> 
> Run a dedicated browser in a dedicated user account. This should isolate any 
> tracking cookies from going into your main account.
> 
> --
> Joost
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> 

Hi Joost,

thanks for your help.

Does "dedicated browser" means "Firefox -NewInstance -P Facebookprofle" or 
does it mean "another browser than the installed firefox" ?

Cheers
Meino





Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/10/2017 16:27, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 10/22 01:58, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On 22 October 2017 10:50:01 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
>>> facebook. 
>>>
>>> And now it seems that I cant with out it:
>>> There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer there
>>> and veryone and everything is referencing it.
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>> Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
>>> just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
>>> and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
>>> small as ever possible?
>>>
>>> Every help is very appreciated!
>>> Cheers
>>> Meino
>>
>> Run a dedicated browser in a dedicated user account. This should isolate any 
>> tracking cookies from going into your main account.
>>
>> --
>> Joost
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
> 
> Hi Joost,
> 
> thanks for your help.
> 
> Does "dedicated browser" means "Firefox -NewInstance -P Facebookprofle" or 
> does it mean "another browser than the installed firefox" ?


The latter.

Unless you are seriously paranoid and the NSA really is out to get you,
then use the former and more. But in that case you have much bigger
problems than wondering if the spammers will find you from facebook

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread Dale
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 10/22 01:58, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On 22 October 2017 10:50:01 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
>>> facebook. 
>>>
>>> And now it seems that I cant with out it:
>>> There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer there
>>> and veryone and everything is referencing it.
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>> Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
>>> just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
>>> and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
>>> small as ever possible?
>>>
>>> Every help is very appreciated!
>>> Cheers
>>> Meino
>> Run a dedicated browser in a dedicated user account. This should isolate any 
>> tracking cookies from going into your main account.
>>
>> --
>> Joost
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
> Hi Joost,
>
> thanks for your help.
>
> Does "dedicated browser" means "Firefox -NewInstance -P Facebookprofle" or 
> does it mean "another browser than the installed firefox" ?
>
> Cheers
> Meino
>

I would think that would work.  I think I get where Joost is coming from. 

Another thought, what about using Tor to make it so it can't track IPs
as well?  Joost, you have a thought on that? 

Also, I've read where some people have had to prove who they are. 
Facebook requests the info and if it is not provided, they suspend the
account until it is provided.  It's never happened to me but I've talked
to people who it did happen too.  How does one get around it if that
happens? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread tuxic
On 10/22 06:39, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 22/10/2017 16:27, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> > On 10/22 01:58, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >> On 22 October 2017 10:50:01 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
> >>> facebook. 
> >>>
> >>> And now it seems that I cant with out it:
> >>> There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer there
> >>> and veryone and everything is referencing it.
> >>>
> >>> My question is:
> >>> Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
> >>> just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
> >>> and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
> >>> small as ever possible?
> >>>
> >>> Every help is very appreciated!
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Meino
> >>
> >> Run a dedicated browser in a dedicated user account. This should isolate 
> >> any tracking cookies from going into your main account.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joost
> >> -- 
> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> >>
> > 
> > Hi Joost,
> > 
> > thanks for your help.
> > 
> > Does "dedicated browser" means "Firefox -NewInstance -P Facebookprofle" or 
> > does it mean "another browser than the installed firefox" ?
> 
> 
> The latter.
> 
> Unless you are seriously paranoid and the NSA really is out to get you,
> then use the former and more. But in that case you have much bigger
> problems than wondering if the spammers will find you from facebook
> 
> -- 
> Alan McKinnon
> alan.mckin...@gmail.com
> 
> 

Hi Alan,

thanks a lot. No ... I am not interesting enough to be a target for the
NSA and such...but...wait! Yesterday at 5:08 PM I have had a bit of an
own opinion...

Ok, you convinced me...tommorrow I will get a dedicated PC in a secyre
house... ;)

More seriously:
Any browser you can recommend beside Firefox?
Or is it more a "take one" thing?

Cheers
Meino





Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 22 October 2017 18:53:36 GMT+02:00, Dale  wrote:
>tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>> On 10/22 01:58, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On 22 October 2017 10:50:01 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
 Hi,

 for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
 facebook. 

 And now it seems that I cant with out it:
 There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer there
 and veryone and everything is referencing it.

 My question is:
 Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
 just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
 and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
 small as ever possible?

 Every help is very appreciated!
 Cheers
 Meino
>>> Run a dedicated browser in a dedicated user account. This should
>isolate any tracking cookies from going into your main account.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>> -- 
>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>
>> Hi Joost,
>>
>> thanks for your help.
>>
>> Does "dedicated browser" means "Firefox -NewInstance -P
>Facebookprofle" or 
>> does it mean "another browser than the installed firefox" ?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Meino
>>
>
>I would think that would work.  I think I get where Joost is coming
>from. 
>
>Another thought, what about using Tor to make it so it can't track IPs
>as well?  Joost, you have a thought on that? 

I tried Tor once to see how it works. The network performance is too slow to be 
usable for something like Facebook.

--
Joost


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 22 October 2017 18:55:36 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>On 10/22 06:39, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 22/10/2017 16:27, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>> > On 10/22 01:58, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> >> On 22 October 2017 10:50:01 GMT+02:00, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> for its invasive nature and its data gathering I really dont like
>> >>> facebook. 
>> >>>
>> >>> And now it seems that I cant with out it:
>> >>> There is a HUGE user group for the Creality CR-10 3D printer
>there
>> >>> and veryone and everything is referencing it.
>> >>>
>> >>> My question is:
>> >>> Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook
>> >>> just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist)
>> >>> and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as
>> >>> small as ever possible?
>> >>>
>> >>> Every help is very appreciated!
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Meino
>> >>
>> >> Run a dedicated browser in a dedicated user account. This should
>isolate any tracking cookies from going into your main account.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Joost
>> >> -- 
>> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>brevity.
>> >>
>> > 
>> > Hi Joost,
>> > 
>> > thanks for your help.
>> > 
>> > Does "dedicated browser" means "Firefox -NewInstance -P
>Facebookprofle" or 
>> > does it mean "another browser than the installed firefox" ?
>> 
>> 
>> The latter.
>> 
>> Unless you are seriously paranoid and the NSA really is out to get
>you,
>> then use the former and more. But in that case you have much bigger
>> problems than wondering if the spammers will find you from facebook
>> 
>> -- 
>> Alan McKinnon
>> alan.mckin...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>
>Hi Alan,
>
>thanks a lot. No ... I am not interesting enough to be a target for the
>NSA and such...but...wait! Yesterday at 5:08 PM I have had a bit of an
>own opinion...
>
>Ok, you convinced me...tommorrow I will get a dedicated PC in a secyre
>house... ;)
>
>More seriously:
>Any browser you can recommend beside Firefox?
>Or is it more a "take one" thing?
>
>Cheers
>Meino

Take any.
If you run it from a seperate account (ssh -Y facebookuser@localhost ) you can 
stay with firefox. Just keep that one for facebook only.

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up claws mail

2017-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:59:44 +0100, Peter Humphrey (by way of Peter
Humphrey ) wrote:

> > > Are these the ones you want?
> > 
> > Yes, I've just tried setting up Claws to connect to y Zen account and
> > it just worked. Then I looked at your screenshot and see you are
> > using a different host.  
> 
> I thought the mail host names all resolved to the same host; they always
> have in the past.

I didn't look at that, I just copied the info from my getmail config.

> > The information in this window is all I needed to configure.  
> 
> I deleted ~/.claws-mail and the mail folder and started again. It worked
> for me too this time - Just Like That (tm). I'm using claws now. The
> next thing is to work out how to use filters.

Ah yes, the filters in Claws are very powerful but not so intuitive. Look
at actions too, I do most of my filtering server side, but I couldn't do
without Actions.


-- 
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Don't put all your hypes in one home page.


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