[gentoo-user] Re: OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-17 16:04, R0b0t1 wrote:

> Do you have any problems with roundcube?

Yes:

 ahiker!90 exim$ apt-cache show roundcube-core | grep '^Depends'
Depends: dbconfig-common, debconf, libapache2-mod-php | php, libmagic1,
php-pear (>= 1:1.10.1), php-cli, php-intl, php-json, php-mcrypt,
roundcube-mysql (= 1.2.3+dfsg.1-4+deb9u2) | roundcube-sqlite3 (=
1.2.3+dfsg.1-4+deb9u2) | roundcube-pgsql (= 1.2.3+dfsg.1-4+deb9u2), ucf,
debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, php-common, php-net-socket (>= 1.0.12), 
php-auth-sasl (>= 1.0.6), php-mail-mime (>= 1.10.0), php-net-smtp (>= 1.7.1)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Ian Zimmerman  wrote:
> Is _every_ fscking webmail package written in php?  Why?
>

The packages were written likely written a long time ago. Modern PHP
isn't as bad as it used to be, but I'd still avoid it in favor of
newer languages.

I have this problem with Ruby. A lot of people started writing Ruby code.

Do you have any problems with roundcube?

Cheers,
R0b0t1



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:47 PM Ian Zimmerman  wrote:
>
> Is _every_ fscking webmail package written in php?  Why?
>

Not at all.  There is Zimbra which doesn't seem to use PHP at all.
Just Java, Ruby, and Perl from the look of it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread Daniel Frey

On 2018-07-17 11:47 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

Is _every_ fscking webmail package written in php?  Why?



Most likely because every web hosting package has php/mysql installed?

Dan



[gentoo-user] OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Is _every_ fscking webmail package written in php?  Why?

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Re: [gentoo-user] scanner problem

2018-07-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 15:23:06 BST Jack wrote:
> On 2018.07.17 02:38, Philip Webb wrote:
> > My scanner -- Epson Perfection V550 Photo -- is suddenly not detected
> > 
> > when I enter 'xsane' (via the menu or Alt-F2), it says "no devices
> > available".
> > 
> > I last used it without any problem 180626.
> > Since then, I've updated my kernel & some other pkgs.
> > I've checked the USB physical connection ; the scanner 'ready' light
> > is on.
> > I've remerged 'xsane' & 'sane-backends' & rebooted.
> > 
> > Following my notes, I've done :
> >   root:500 ~> sane-find-scanner
> >   ...
> >   found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x013b [EPSON
> > 
> > Scanner]) at libusb:001:004
> > 
> >   # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected.
> >   # It may or may not be supported by SANE.
> >   # Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
> > 
> > root:501 ~> scanimage -L
> > device `epkowa:interpreter:001:004' is a Epson Perfection V550 Photo
> > flatbed scanner
> > 
> >   The first time I ran these commands (I don't remember which),
> >   the scanner itself made the noises it usually does when starting.
> >   
> >   This model needs a driver which is not included in 'sane-backends'
> >   & which I downloaded from Nvidia & installed when I got the scanner
> > 
> > 2017.
> > 
> >   The 'epkowa' driver is installed :
> >   
> >   root:505 ~> locate epkowa
> >   
> > /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf
> > /usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.la
> > /usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.so.1
> > /usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15
> > /usr/lib64/sane/archive/libsane-epkowa.la
> > /usr/lib64/sane/archive/libsane-epkowa.so.1
> > /usr/lib64/sane/archive/libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15
> > 
> > My user is a member of the 'scanner' group :
> >   scanner:x:104:purslow
> > 
> > I am puzzled : does anyone have a suggestion what to do next ?
> 
> Does the scanner currently show up if you do "lsusb" ?
> Does dmesg say anything when you plug the scanner in?
> Is it possible that the driver needs updating to deal with a newer
> kernel?
> 
> Jack

I've also had problems with my WiFi/bluetooth with all kernels after 4.9.95.  
The kernel binds and unbinds the USB device in a loop pegging the CPU.  I'm 
mentioning it here in case it is related (the USB part), but sadly I have no 
solution for it yet.  :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] scanner problem

2018-07-17 Thread Jack

On 2018.07.17 02:38, Philip Webb wrote:
My scanner -- Epson Perfection V550 Photo -- is suddenly not detected  
:
when I enter 'xsane' (via the menu or Alt-F2), it says "no devices  
available".


I last used it without any problem 180626.
Since then, I've updated my kernel & some other pkgs.
I've checked the USB physical connection ; the scanner 'ready' light  
is on.

I've remerged 'xsane' & 'sane-backends' & rebooted.

Following my notes, I've done :

  root:500 ~> sane-find-scanner
  ...
  found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x013b [EPSON  
Scanner]) at libusb:001:004

  # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected.
  # It may or may not be supported by SANE.
  # Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
root:501 ~> scanimage -L
device `epkowa:interpreter:001:004' is a Epson Perfection V550 Photo  
flatbed scanner


  The first time I ran these commands (I don't remember which),
  the scanner itself made the noises it usually does when starting.

  This model needs a driver which is not included in 'sane-backends'
  & which I downloaded from Nvidia & installed when I got the scanner  
2017.

  The 'epkowa' driver is installed :

  root:505 ~> locate epkowa
/etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf
/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.la
/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.so.1
/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15
/usr/lib64/sane/archive/libsane-epkowa.la
/usr/lib64/sane/archive/libsane-epkowa.so.1
/usr/lib64/sane/archive/libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15

My user is a member of the 'scanner' group :

  scanner:x:104:purslow

I am puzzled : does anyone have a suggestion what to do next ?


Does the scanner currently show up if you do "lsusb" ?
Does dmesg say anything when you plug the scanner in?
Is it possible that the driver needs updating to deal with a newer  
kernel?


Jack


Re: [gentoo-user] scanner problem

2018-07-17 Thread Steven Lembark


> Since then, I've updated my kernel & some other pkgs.

You build your own kernel or rely on modules to handle it all?

Any idea what modules you've rebuilt since the last use of the
scanner?

As a sanity check you might want to take a look at VueScan. Hamerick
does a nice to of just making things work. Might give some better
error messages -- it's also a nice package, worth a few bucks to 
have something that Just Works and also helps support someone who
actually releases software for Linux.

Depending on which syslogger you use, create /var/log/debug with 
debug-level output (no idea how to do this with systemd), zero the
log, and tail -f it while you plug in the scanner, try to use it.

I normally keep /var/log/messages w/ *.info, auth.none and have
logrotate switch it out frequently (daily) at 1MiB. You only need it
once to make it worth the disk space :-)

Try:

( strace sane 
/var/tmp/sane.strace.out 2>&1;

and see what it's trying to open when it fails to get the file. It
might not be the device itself that is botching the process but a 
secondary file that got stepped on.

Try:

find /etc -name '._cfg*';

any of them affect scanning, dbus, usb (anything else that might
be used by sane)?

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