[gentoo-user] Re: how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick  wrote:
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>
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 18:51:11 -0400, John Covici wrote:
>
>> > With USE=3D"atk-bridge adwaita-icon-theme" this "breakage" will not
>> > happen. =20
>
>> However -adwaita-icon-theme is followed by % -- does this not mean it
>> cannot be modified by the user?
>
> No, it means the flag is "newly added or removed", parentheses indicate a
> masked flag.

That being said, if you are not interested to ever disable any of
these two USE-flags, there is no reason to ever install gtk+:3
from the mv overlay. (The whole point of gtk+:3 in the mv overlay is
to make this functionality - hence the dependencies it brings -
optional.) I suggest that in this case you put

x11-libs/gtk+:3::mv

into your package mask instead of a particular version mask.




Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:39:42 -0400,
Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, 7 October 2018 8:34:39 AM AEDT Jack wrote:
> > On 2018.10.06 16:29, John Covici wrote:
> > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > >>> So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
> > >>> wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output
> > >>> --- thanks for all your help.
> > >> 
> > >> What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover
> > >> both the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me
> > >> that emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was
> > >> masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.
> > > 
> > > The line in my /etc/portage/package.mask says
> > > x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
> > 
> > For a specific version, you probably want that to be
> >   =x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
> > or
> > 
> >   >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
> > 
> > although the # in
> > [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> > seems to show it knows it is listed in package.mask.
> 
> 
> Apart from the package.mask syntax error, there is also an emerge flag you 
> might want to try:
> 
>   --autounmask-keep-masks y
> 
> I added this when emerge kept asking me to unmask stuff I had manually masked.

Thanks for the tip, I never heard of that one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 19:11:40 -0400,
Rich Freeman wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 4:29 PM John Covici  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400,
> > Rich Freeman wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
> > > > wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output ---
> > > > thanks for all your help.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover both
> > > the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me that
> > > emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was
> > > masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.
> >
> > The line in my /etc/portage/package.mask says
> > >x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
> 
> Are you sure you don't have it also unmasked in package.unmask or similar?
> 
> It looks like the version you already have installed is masked.  So,
> perhaps portage doesn't consider upgrading from an already-installed
> masked version to a newer masked version a problem.
> 
> >
> > How do I get in touch with the portage team?
> 
> Well, aside from pinging on IRC you could file a bug.  I'm not sure if
> it is behaving as expected since you already have a masked package
> installed.
> 
> I'm actually surprised it didn't try to downgrade gtk+ to an older
> version, unless something else needs the installed version.  Or unless
> you have it unmasked someplace else.

Ahhh, that was the secret, I had a huge unmask file originally for
gnome -- a much older version and there it was, >gtk+3.21 .

Thanks a lot for your help and I will now see if it behaves better.

And yep, it is now working as expected.

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[gentoo-user] Where be me icons?

2018-10-06 Thread Alan Grimes
=\

Because each update basically rebuilds the same three or four
super-packages (libreoffice, chromium, the kde collection, etc) all of
which are version bumped every 12 milliseconds just to annoy ppl like
me, and because I had such a Good Time (tm) last SEVERAL times I tried
to update, I decided to put it off for six months

Well later that day X'doze crashes after an uptime of about 30 days...
(So I updated, there were problems but nothing worse than par...)

Also, I realize that Linux is going to go through a Dark Age and
probably be destroyed and re-built several times before emerging again
as a usable operating system, I am going to be climbing up from my
previous freeze at 4.15 to 4.18 which I will probably have to nurse
through 5-6 years of war and upheval...

(I am currently on 4.16, will try to go to 4.17 at next boot...)

The biggest problem I have right now is all the button-icons in fvwm
have gone poof. =(

I didn't do anything that portage didn't demand I do... The window
manager is really not usable without those icons, I know some of them by
memory but a 3x3 matrix of blank buttons is not acceptable.

The only two window managers available on gentoo, are twm -- which is
all you need as an emergency de-fsck tool and fvwm which will do 99% of
everything you actually need.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:11 PM Rich Freeman  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 4:29 PM John Covici  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400,
> > Rich Freeman wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
> > > > wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output ---
> > > > thanks for all your help.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover both
> > > the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me that
> > > emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was
> > > masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.
> >
> > The line in my /etc/portage/package.mask says
> > >x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
>
> It looks like the version you already have installed is masked.

Disregard this bit.  Between quotes and
oh-well-I-can't-think-of-a-better-excuse I missed that there is no =
there.  I would check for anything unmasking specific versions but I
have no idea offhand why the upgrade is happening...

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sunday, 7 October 2018 8:34:39 AM AEDT Jack wrote:
> On 2018.10.06 16:29, John Covici wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici 
> > 
> > wrote:
> >>> So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
> >>> wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output
> >>> --- thanks for all your help.
> >> 
> >> What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover
> >> both the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me
> >> that emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was
> >> masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.
> > 
> > The line in my /etc/portage/package.mask says
> > x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
> 
> For a specific version, you probably want that to be
>   =x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
> or
> 
>   >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
> 
> although the # in
> [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> seems to show it knows it is listed in package.mask.


Apart from the package.mask syntax error, there is also an emerge flag you 
might want to try:

--autounmask-keep-masks y

I added this when emerge kept asking me to unmask stuff I had manually masked.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 18:51:11 -0400, John Covici wrote:

> > With USE="atk-bridge adwaita-icon-theme" this "breakage" will not
> > happen.  

> However -adwaita-icon-theme is followed by % -- does this not mean it
> cannot be modified by the user?

No, it means the flag is "newly added or removed", parentheses indicate a
masked flag.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 4:29 PM John Covici  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400,
> Rich Freeman wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici  wrote:
> > >
> > > So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
> > > wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output ---
> > > thanks for all your help.
> > >
> >
> > What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover both
> > the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me that
> > emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was
> > masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.
>
> The line in my /etc/portage/package.mask says
> >x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30

Are you sure you don't have it also unmasked in package.unmask or similar?

It looks like the version you already have installed is masked.  So,
perhaps portage doesn't consider upgrading from an already-installed
masked version to a newer masked version a problem.

>
> How do I get in touch with the portage team?

Well, aside from pinging on IRC you could file a bug.  I'm not sure if
it is behaving as expected since you already have a masked package
installed.

I'm actually surprised it didn't try to downgrade gtk+ to an older
version, unless something else needs the installed version.  Or unless
you have it unmasked someplace else.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:44:05 -0400,
Martin Vaeth wrote:
> 
> John Covici  wrote:
> > [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> > prevent the install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
> > features?
> 
> With USE="atk-bridge adwaita-icon-theme" this "breakage" will not happen.
However -adwaita-icon-theme is followed by % -- does this not mean it
cannot be modified by the user?


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Jack

On 2018.10.06 16:29, John Covici wrote:

On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici   
wrote:
So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and  
wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output  
--- thanks for all your help.

> >
What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover  
both the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me  
that emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was  
masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.


The line in my /etc/portage/package.mask says
x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30


For a specific version, you probably want that to be
 =x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30
or
 >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30

although the # in
[ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
seems to show it knows it is listed in package.mask.

Jack


Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400,
Rich Freeman wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici  wrote:
> >
> > So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
> > wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output ---
> > thanks for all your help.
> >
> 
> What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover both
> the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me that
> emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was
> masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.

The line in my /etc/portage/package.mask says
>x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30

How do I get in touch with the portage team?

-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
John Covici  wrote:
> [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> prevent the install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
> features?

With USE="atk-bridge adwaita-icon-theme" this "breakage" will not happen.




Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici  wrote:
>
> So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
> wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output ---
> thanks for all your help.
>

What is the actual package.mask set to?  Does the same mask cover both
the installed and upgraded version of gtk+?  It seems odd to me that
emerge would even offer the option to continue if a package was
masked.  You might want to check with the portage team.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 09:32:24 -0400,
Rich Freeman wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM John Covici  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:26:15 -0400,
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > >
> > > [1  ]
> > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:05:52 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi.  I am in a situation where portage wants to install a package
> > > > which I have masked.  Its  wants to do this
> > > > [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> > > > but I want to keep the old one.  Why is this happening and how can I
> > > > preventthe install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
> > > > features?
> > >
> > > It's difficult to say without seeing the portage output but it is
> > > probably a package that needs the newer version. Add -t to the emerge
> > > command to see what requires the later GTK+, you'll probably need to mask
> > > that too.
> >
> > OK, I thought it would just either refuse or tell me something, but I
> > will do that and see what I see.  Thanks.
> >
> 
> It is already doing both.
> 
> It is refusing to install the masked package, which is why it is
> aborting, and probably suggesting that you unmask it.  Likewise the
> big hash tag in the output is noting that is masked currently.
> 
> The problem is that you're probably also telling portage something
> contradictory, like installing some package that requires the newer
> version of gtk+ (probably from your world set).  So, it isn't doing
> that either, and is giving you a bunch of output.
> 
> Impossible to guess what the issue is without the full output, but as
> suggested sticking --tree and --verbose in there would help.  That
> will show the dependency relationships, and also USE flags which might
> be triggering them.
> 
> If you have a package masked and nothing else is trying to pull it in,
> then portage will more quietly ignore it.  It is calling the situation
> to your attention because one way or another it won't be doing
> something you currently want it to (keeping some other package
> up-to-date, but also not installing this version of gtk+).

So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and
wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output ---
thanks for all your help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 09:32:24 -0400,
Rich Freeman wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM John Covici  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:26:15 -0400,
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > >
> > > [1  ]
> > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:05:52 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi.  I am in a situation where portage wants to install a package
> > > > which I have masked.  Its  wants to do this
> > > > [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> > > > but I want to keep the old one.  Why is this happening and how can I
> > > > preventthe install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
> > > > features?
> > >
> > > It's difficult to say without seeing the portage output but it is
> > > probably a package that needs the newer version. Add -t to the emerge
> > > command to see what requires the later GTK+, you'll probably need to mask
> > > that too.
> >
> > OK, I thought it would just either refuse or tell me something, but I
> > will do that and see what I see.  Thanks.
> >
> 
> It is already doing both.
> 
> It is refusing to install the masked package, which is why it is
> aborting, and probably suggesting that you unmask it.  Likewise the
> big hash tag in the output is noting that is masked currently.
> 
> The problem is that you're probably also telling portage something
> contradictory, like installing some package that requires the newer
> version of gtk+ (probably from your world set).  So, it isn't doing
> that either, and is giving you a bunch of output.
> 
> Impossible to guess what the issue is without the full output, but as
> suggested sticking --tree and --verbose in there would help.  That
> will show the dependency relationships, and also USE flags which might
> be triggering them.
> 
> If you have a package masked and nothing else is trying to pull it in,
> then portage will more quietly ignore it.  It is calling the situation
> to your attention because one way or another it won't be doing
> something you currently want it to (keeping some other package
> up-to-date, but also not installing this version of gtk+).

Problem is, that it is NOT aborting, if it were it would tell me which
package ispulling in the gtk+ package.  If I can't figure this out, I
will post the full output here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM John Covici  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:26:15 -0400,
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
> > [1  ]
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:05:52 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> >
> > > Hi.  I am in a situation where portage wants to install a package
> > > which I have masked.  Its  wants to do this
> > > [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> > > but I want to keep the old one.  Why is this happening and how can I
> > > preventthe install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
> > > features?
> >
> > It's difficult to say without seeing the portage output but it is
> > probably a package that needs the newer version. Add -t to the emerge
> > command to see what requires the later GTK+, you'll probably need to mask
> > that too.
>
> OK, I thought it would just either refuse or tell me something, but I
> will do that and see what I see.  Thanks.
>

It is already doing both.

It is refusing to install the masked package, which is why it is
aborting, and probably suggesting that you unmask it.  Likewise the
big hash tag in the output is noting that is masked currently.

The problem is that you're probably also telling portage something
contradictory, like installing some package that requires the newer
version of gtk+ (probably from your world set).  So, it isn't doing
that either, and is giving you a bunch of output.

Impossible to guess what the issue is without the full output, but as
suggested sticking --tree and --verbose in there would help.  That
will show the dependency relationships, and also USE flags which might
be triggering them.

If you have a package masked and nothing else is trying to pull it in,
then portage will more quietly ignore it.  It is calling the situation
to your attention because one way or another it won't be doing
something you currently want it to (keeping some other package
up-to-date, but also not installing this version of gtk+).

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:26:15 -0400,
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:05:52 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> 
> > Hi.  I am in a situation where portage wants to install a package
> > which I have masked.  Its  wants to do this
> > [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> > but I want to keep the old one.  Why is this happening and how can I
> > preventthe install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
> > features?
> 
> It's difficult to say without seeing the portage output but it is
> probably a package that needs the newer version. Add -t to the emerge
> command to see what requires the later GTK+, you'll probably need to mask
> that too.

OK, I thought it would just either refuse or tell me something, but I
will do that and see what I see.  Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:05:52 -0400, John Covici wrote:

> Hi.  I am in a situation where portage wants to install a package
> which I have masked.  Its  wants to do this
> [ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
> but I want to keep the old one.  Why is this happening and how can I
> preventthe install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
> features?

It's difficult to say without seeing the portage output but it is
probably a package that needs the newer version. Add -t to the emerge
command to see what requires the later GTK+, you'll probably need to mask
that too.


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[gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
Hi.  I am in a situation where portage wants to install a package
which I have masked.  Its  wants to do this
[ebuild U #] x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.1:3::mv [3.22.30:3::gentoo]
but I want to keep the old one.  Why is this happening and how can I
preventthe install of the newer gtk+ which breaks some accessibility
features?

Thanks  in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mount Android phone on Gentoo - Transport endpoint is not connected

2018-10-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday, 6 October 2018 11:14:55 BST Poncho wrote:
> On 05.10.18 20:30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > I'm trying to access my android phone via Linux.
> > Installed: emerge -avq sys-fs/mtpfs
> > 
> > cat /etc/fuse.conf
> > ...
> > user_allow_other
> > 
> > $ mkdir ~/AndroidDevice
> > 
> > mtpfs ~/AndroidDevice
> > Device 0 (VID=22b8 and PID=2e76) is a Motorola Moto G (ID1).
> > Android device detected, assigning default bug flags
> > 
> > ls -al AndroidDevice
> > ls: cannot access 'AndroidDevice': Transport endpoint is not connected
> 
> I can access my phone with gnome-base/gvfs[mtp] without issues.
> Depending on your desktop environment, you might have gvfs installed
> already.

This may be a bit off-topic, but I noticed a recent smart TV Android firmware 
update "removed the media sharing functionality (MTP)".  Does this mean MTP is 
being deprecated?  What will replace it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mount Android phone on Gentoo - Transport endpoint is not connected

2018-10-06 Thread Poncho
On 05.10.18 20:30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I'm trying to access my android phone via Linux.
> Installed: emerge -avq sys-fs/mtpfs
> 
> cat /etc/fuse.conf
> ...
> user_allow_other
> 
> $ mkdir ~/AndroidDevice
> 
> mtpfs ~/AndroidDevice
> Device 0 (VID=22b8 and PID=2e76) is a Motorola Moto G (ID1).
> Android device detected, assigning default bug flags
> 
> ls -al AndroidDevice
> ls: cannot access 'AndroidDevice': Transport endpoint is not connected
> 

I can access my phone with gnome-base/gvfs[mtp] without issues.
Depending on your desktop environment, you might have gvfs installed
already.



Re: [gentoo-user] Mount Android phone on Gentoo - Transport endpoint is not connected

2018-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 03:51:21 +0200, Heiko Baums wrote:

> > I'm trying to access my android phone via Linux.
> > Installed: emerge -avq sys-fs/mtpfs  
> 
> I haven't heard about mtpfs yet, but maybe you could try ssh and/or
> sshfs.
> 
> Just install the app SSHelper on your phone and sshfs on your Gentoo
> system. SSHelper is basically an ssh server which is pretty well
> documented on its website and it's OpenSource.

I've found mtpfs unreliable in the past and now use either SSHelper to
access the phone from the computer or ES File Manager on the phone to
access the computer over SFTP or CIFS.


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[gentoo-user] app-shells/bash slotted?

2018-10-06 Thread John Covici
Hi.  I noticed when preparing to do my world update today that
app-shells/bash is now slotted.  I wonder what the purpose of this is,
there seems to be no way to select the different versions and
upgrading bash broke dracut -- unless they fixed it recently.

Any thoughts?

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