Re: [gentoo-user] DVD Problems...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Mark Knecht wrote:

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Benjamen R. Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I recently got a couple seasons of Star Gate SG-1, and can read nearly all
the DVDs except the 3rd DVD of Season 2, which under Kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r4
yielded the following error messags to dmesg:

hdc: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: media error (bad sector): error=0x30 { LastFailedSense=0x03 }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
ATAPI device hdc:
 Error: Medium error -- (Sense key=0x03)
 (reserved error code) -- (asc=0x11, ascq=0x05)
 The failed "Read 10" packet command was:
 "28 00 00 00 47 c0 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 73472
Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 9184
npviewer.bin[10182]: segfault at 4 rip f6febd54 rsp ff833c70 error 4
hdc: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: packet command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand
LastFailedSense=0x05 }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
ATAPI device hdc:
 Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
 Invalid field in command packet -- (asc=0x24, ascq=0x00)
 The failed "Read CD" packet command was:
 "be 00 00 00 00 96 00 00 01 58 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
typesconfig[18298]: segfault at 0 rip 4010eb rsp 7fffb31012b0 error 4
typesconfig[18299]: segfault at 0 rip 4010a1 rsp 7fffb31012b0 error 6
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :01:00.0 to 64
NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  169.09  Fri Jan 11
14:04:37 PST 2008
cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
First thing I did was verify it was a good disc by putting it in my Windows
laptop I use for work and running WinDVD. It played just fine, so I know it
has to be some part of the linux system not understanding the disk.
I also ran 'xine' with the verbose flag. You can find the output at
http://www.geocities.com/bm_witness/gentoo/xinedvd.txt.gz
FYI: /dev/dvd points to hdc. Trying to open '/dev/hdc' yields the same
results - though no information in the logs. :-<
I'd very much like to find a solution to this problem.

I've run into this problem a number of times on my Linux systems. In a
couple of cases what where essentially scratched disks played on both
my HT DVD player as well as Windows but would not play in xine.
I talked with the xine guys and they said (at the time maybe 3-4 years
ago) that their error recovery wasn't nearly as good as they wanted it
to be. At that time xine was the best around.
A READ10 issue is potentially a firmware issue in the drive since it's
the drive's processor formatting up data to send over the cable. My
suggestion would be try it on every system you have there. Some drives
read around problems better or do better correction at the drive.
Maybe you can find a firmware upgrade for the specific drive. Not
specific to these READ10 errors but some folks using 1394 peripherals
have improved performance in this sort of situation.


So I started watching the disc in question on my Windows laptop and it 
hung during one of the episodes. Restarting WinDVD and playing with 
where I was in the stream got past it; but with that I called it bad 
disc and got a swap'd out set today. So it seems the first issue (likely 
a header issue) was able to be gotten around easily, but with the second 
hang there seemed to be multiple issues.I confirmed all new discs are 
readable by Xine - at least to load the disc. Now I (joyfully) get to 
watch them all again to confirm they are all 100% good discs

.
Any how...would be nice for a little better error correction too; I 
wasn't quite ready to call it a bad disc with just the header issue; but 
with a second issue there was definitely something wrong at the disc level.


Thanks for all the help and tips.

Ben
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[gentoo-user] DVD Problems...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

I recently got a couple seasons of Star Gate SG-1, and can read nearly 
all the DVDs except the 3rd DVD of Season 2, which under Kernel 
2.6.24-gentoo-r4 yielded the following error messags to dmesg:


hdc: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: media error (bad sector): error=0x30 { LastFailedSense=0x03 }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
ATAPI device hdc:
  Error: Medium error -- (Sense key=0x03)
  (reserved error code) -- (asc=0x11, ascq=0x05)
  The failed "Read 10" packet command was:
  "28 00 00 00 47 c0 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 73472
Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 9184
npviewer.bin[10182]: segfault at 4 rip f6febd54 rsp ff833c70 error 4
hdc: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: packet command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand
LastFailedSense=0x05 }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
ATAPI device hdc:
  Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
  Invalid field in command packet -- (asc=0x24, ascq=0x00)
  The failed "Read CD" packet command was:
  "be 00 00 00 00 96 00 00 01 58 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
typesconfig[18298]: segfault at 0 rip 4010eb rsp 7fffb31012b0 error 4
typesconfig[18299]: segfault at 0 rip 4010a1 rsp 7fffb31012b0 error 6
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :01:00.0 to 64
NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  169.09  Fri Jan 11
14:04:37 PST 2008
cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!

First thing I did was verify it was a good disc by putting it in my 
Windows laptop I use for work and running WinDVD. It played just fine, 
so I know it has to be some part of the linux system not understanding 
the disk.


Second thing I did was upgrade to the "latest" kernel - 2.6.24-gentoo-r7 
- to see if that would solve the problem since it seemed like the DVD 
driver was not able to recognize the disk at all. It successfully got 
rid of the error from 'dmesg'; however, xine (0.99.5) is still unable to 
play the disk - complaining about not being able to load the plug-in for 
the MRL. Other DVDs from the same boxset (even the two discs after it) 
play just fine under both kernels. Also, I can't mount the disc.


I also ran 'xine' with the verbose flag. You can find the output at 
http://www.geocities.com/bm_witness/gentoo/xinedvd.txt.gz
(sorry, for some reason Yahoo/Geocities didn't want to accept a standard 
text file, so I had to gzip it.)


I'm not afraid to do some kernel hacking to resolve this if someone 
would point me in the right direction to do so - or at least to 
providing some help to it.


FYI: /dev/dvd points to hdc. Trying to open '/dev/hdc' yields the same 
results - though no information in the logs. :-<


I'd very much like to find a solution to this problem.

Any help, tips, etc. would be very much appreciated.

TIA,

Ben
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Re: [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

I'd recommend 2007 based on the below. I put 2007.0 on my PII 233 last 
fall. It does take a while, but it really didn't take that much longer 
than my AMD64 build - though, I don't think I put KDE on it, which I did 
on the AMD64. YMMV.


FYI - you can always upgrade the 2007 profile to 2008. I just did that 
on my AMD64. And its a pretty smooth and slick process - I had always 
rebuilt a box to change distros before (usually after a few years of use 
and upgrades and not rebuilding just to change the distro either) so it 
was a first for me. So don't be afraid to use the 2007.


Ben

deface wrote:
2008 is still in beta, but it should still work. I'd use 2007.0. Also, i 
sure hope you have a box setup for distcc. compiling gentoo on these 
old/slow procs could take days.


deface

On May 8, 2008, at 12:03 PM, James wrote:


Hello,

I have an assortment of p1, p2 and old amd K6 (586) class machines.

Do the 2008.0 iso beta 2 cover this arch?

If not, what is the recommend minimal cd to use to install these
machines?


James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating an initrd for loading...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Florian Philipp wrote:

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:31 -0400, Benjamen R. Meyer wrote:

Florian Philipp wrote:

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 12:35 -0400, Benjamen R. Meyer wrote:
 How can 
I mount the initrd image to verify it has the modules, etc. and verify 
it is a valid image?

There is a wiki-entry about it: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Initramfs
Ok, so I used zcat to decompress the image, and then cpio to extract the 
data to a temporary folder. (The instructions on the wiki didn't work 
for some reason...complaints about finding cpio and zcat complaining 
about arguments). Any how...


I snooped around the extracted files and was unable to find either the 
qla2xxx module (or the qla2200 modules, or any modules for that matter) 
or the qla2200 firmware. The firmware is on the hard drive (/dev/sda1 -> 
/lib/firmward/qla2200_fw.bin), and so is the module - 
/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/kernel/drivers/scsi/qla2xxx/qla2xxx.ko. Is 
the initrd image invalid?? Or are they stored somehow in the files 
non-obviously?
How could I easily add them to the initrd image? (This is really my 
first time playing with initrd images...)

They are in lib/modules. I think it should work if you just copy the
modules to their respective folder and add their names to the respective
file in etc/modules.


Okay, I tried this two ways:

1) touched files in /etc/modules with the module names. (Probably not 
right) - didn't work.


2) added all the files in 
/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/kernel/drivers/scsi and sub-directories to 
/etc/modules/scsi - didn't work. Perhaps I need to add the information 
for the firmware???



To create a initrd new initrd, use the following command:
find . | cpio --quiet --dereference -o -H newc | gzip -9 >/boot/initrd


Okay, used this instead of the lengthy process I was doing before:

find ./ | cpio -H newc -o > /boot/initrd.bmeyer.cpio
gzip /boot/initrd.bmeyer.cpio
mv /boot/initrd.bmeyer.cpio.gz /boot/initrd.bmeyer

Any how...still stuck. Think I'm further along..but don't know.

FYI - right after it runs 'mdev' there is a line saying it can't find 
'ls'...not sure if that is an error with mdev, or an error after mdev. 
Either way, I can't find out since the system goes unusable until I 
reboot manually (cycle power).


TIA,

Ben

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating an initrd for loading...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Florian Philipp wrote:

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 12:35 -0400, Benjamen R. Meyer wrote:
My main question comes down to this: I am using the 'genkernel' package 
to build & install the kernel and initrd image. Both show up in /boot. 
How much can I rely on genkernel to build a valid initrd image?

Try "genkernel menuconfig all" to check for a valid kernel config before
genkernel builds it. Refer to genkernel's man-page for further options.


Yes, I did that. I ran genkernel, and generated it all. The initrd just 
doesn't seem to be working.



 How can 
I mount the initrd image to verify it has the modules, etc. and verify 
it is a valid image?

There is a wiki-entry about it: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Initramfs


Ok, so I used zcat to decompress the image, and then cpio to extract the 
data to a temporary folder. (The instructions on the wiki didn't work 
for some reason...complaints about finding cpio and zcat complaining 
about arguments). Any how...


I snooped around the extracted files and was unable to find either the 
qla2xxx module (or the qla2200 modules, or any modules for that matter) 
or the qla2200 firmware. The firmware is on the hard drive (/dev/sda1 -> 
/lib/firmward/qla2200_fw.bin), and so is the module - 
/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/kernel/drivers/scsi/qla2xxx/qla2xxx.ko. Is 
the initrd image invalid?? Or are they stored somehow in the files 
non-obviously?


How could I easily add them to the initrd image? (This is really my 
first time playing with initrd images...)


Thanks,

Ben

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[gentoo-user] Creating an initrd for loading...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

I'm working on a Sparc system (SunBlade 2000 Desktop Server) that needs 
an initrd image to load (due to having a QLA 2200 SCSI controller); but 
I am having some trouble with the initrd image.


(I had tried the gentoo-sparc list, but it is slow - I'm not getting 
responses - and I need to finish this server by Friday. And the issue 
right now is solely the initrd image.)


The problem I am having is that the kernel is complaining about not 
having the initrd image. I have SILO (sparc equiv of LILO) installed, 
and have told it of the initrd image, but the kernel doesn't seem to 
find it. (SILO reports all is well, so I can only assume it is finding 
the initrd image without a problem.)


My main question comes down to this: I am using the 'genkernel' package 
to build & install the kernel and initrd image. Both show up in /boot. 
How much can I rely on genkernel to build a valid initrd image? How can 
I mount the initrd image to verify it has the modules, etc. and verify 
it is a valid image?


TIA,

Ben
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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Alex Schuster wrote:

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:


I have an AMD 64x2 that I have been using only in x86 mode since I got
it.  I have been thinking of going to x86_64 mode but I'm wondering if
it's worth the trouble with multilib, chroot'ing, firefox-bin and other
compromises (admittedly some minor).  I realize I should see some speed
increase but probably only in certain areas such as compiling.
So, for those users who have used both, is it worth it overall?
Next thing I would never have thought of: the root file system was too 
small. I made it 500 MB bis, as /usr, /var, /opt, /tmp and /home are on 
LVM. A little small because of /root/.ccache, but I usually symlink that to 
somewhere else. But why is /lib/modules larger than 300 MB? I would expect 
this to be around 30 MB, which is double the size of these directories on 
my other system, but even ten times more than that? Is something wrong 
here? The installation handbook does not mention this, and also suggest a 
small root partition. The examplee shows 132 MB used there, this looks okay 
to me.


Here's my FS setup from df:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb1 9.4G  7.2G  1.8G  81% /
/dev/hdb2 471M   27M  420M   7% /boot
/dev/hda2  31G  3.7G   25G  13% /usr/portage
/dev/mapper/vg_tmp4.0G  154M  3.6G   5% /tmp
/dev/mapper/vg_var 11G  518M  9.8G   5% /var
/dev/mapper/vg_usr9.9G  151M  9.2G   2% /usr/local
/dev/mapper/vg_opt9.9G  505M  8.9G   6% /opt
/dev/mapper/vg_home30G   26G  2.1G  93% /home


I have a few other partitions for things too, but the above covers the 
normal and essential. Additionally I have a couple gigs of swap space. YMMV


I also checked my lib size - which is about 53MB for /lib64, and 4.3MB 
for /lib32. /usr (including sub-mounts, e.g. local and portage) comes 
out to  11GB. /opt is 335 MB, and /var is 309 MB.


So I don't know what went wrong for you.

> Flash does not work (yet). I emerged netscape-flash and and
> nspluginwrapper, but firefox and konqueror do not have flash working.
> Did not investigate this further yet.

I've only really been able to get Flash working with the 32-bit Firefox 
binary. It will randomly work in the 64-bit Firefox build for some 
reason, but nothing consistent - and when it does, only one web page can 
use it at a time - not multi-tabs each with their own flash. Perhaps 
that's just a result of the nswrapper-plugin to make the 32-bit and 
64-bit work together...not sure.


Any how...overall, it runs really well. I can't offer any advice on the 
video issues.


Ben

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a printer to XP: Samba vs IPP

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

David Blamire-Brown wrote:

Hi,
This is a question about a small home network set-up for printing. I can't tell 
if this is OT for this list, but that doesn't seem to be a firm restriction in 
this part of the world in any case!

I have a locally attached printer on a Gentoo machine. I have a Windows XP 
laptop. I would like to print from my XP laptop over the network to the printer.
I have followed the guide on gentoo.org. I've sort of got printing working via 
Samba, but haven't been able to configure it for XP users to print without 
having to login to Samba. So I'm looking back at using IPP on the XP laptop.
Anyway, the main question is, is Samba a preferred option, or is it just more 
complicated than using IPP? There are a couple of brief lines about printing 
via IPP in the Gentoo Printing Guide, but a whole separate guide on using 
Samba. I can't find any information on use of IPP vs Samba via a brief Google, 
but maybe I'm just not searching very well.


I would think Samba would be more an option for when you already have a 
Windows/Samba domain running for the network that everyone authenticates 
through. Granted, as another poster provided, you can enable 
public/guest access, which would make it like a Win9x/Me printer share 
though XP should do fine with it.


However, I think CUPS/IPP would be a better option. It's very easy to 
configure (I just followed the Gentoo guide for it). And it makes it 
very easy to install on any Windows system. If you have CUPS configured 
properly, you can even have it provide the drivers automatically to the 
Windows systems - I haven't tried that yet. It really impressed me how 
quick and easy it was to install CUPS - both on other Linux systems and 
on Windows.


There is a Samba/CUPS guide, so I think you can even mix the two a bit.

There is also one other issue to consider - AFAIK, the SMB protocol does 
not do spooling - so you could get job conflicts, while IPP makes the 
printer a true network printer running via a print server (e.g. CUPS) so 
it has spooling inherent to it. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong 
on this.) So you'll be safer using IPP. I have worked in environments 
where printers were shared similarly - no print server - and it causes 
problems when two people try to print something at near the same time; 
the printer will ignore one job, or switch jobs in the middle - never 
predictable what it would do, though I think ignoring jobs was what 
primarily happened. It's a pain - and that's even with printers that had 
built in network interfaces.


Just something to consider.

Ben

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Wael Nasreddine wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:31:30PM -0500, "Benjamen R. Meyer" <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> As you have an Intel Core Duo, you should have the EMT64E version -
>> Intel's version of the AMD64 instruction set - thus x86-64 compatible.
> 
>> Best place to check is Intel's website - here's what I found:
> 
>> http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sspec=sl9dv
>> http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/core/duodocumentation.htm
> 
>> With EMT64E, you will be able to compile for 64-bit mode using the
>> x86-64 builds. (You can only use Intel64 if you have the Itanium procs
>> if memory serves.)
> 
>> However, unless you specifically install the x86-64/AMD64/64-bit
>> version, you will have a 32-bit x86 environment and kernel. You can
>> upgrade if you like...see other threads for that info.
> 
>> HTH,
> 
>> Ben
> 
> Let's say this processor supports 64 bits, what whould I gain from
> migrating to x86_64 I mean would it be faster??? I've never
> owned/worked on a 64bit machine before so excuse my lack of knowledge
> :)

The primary advantage is larger memory space, and more native use of the
entire processor. I'm running it b/c I want to be - not b/c I need the
memory space, I'm not pushing 4GB for Physical RAM which is primarily
what it is about.

>From my understanding, you won't gain much if any in speed. The
processor is still the same clock rate. 64-bit programs may (not sure,
someone verify?) be bigger as the opcodes are larger.

You can run any of the following configs:
1) pure 32-bit
2) pure 64-bit
3) mixed 32-64 bit (multi-lib)

#3 will be the largest install as you have a lot of duplications since
you are hosting both a 32-bit and 64-bit environment. However, with #2
you might not get a lot of programs since there are quite a few that
have not been fully ported to 64-bit modes. You're running #1 now.

So not much is gained for now.

Ben

>> Wael Nasreddine wrote:
>>> Hello,
> 
>>> It's been like 6 months I'm using the arch i686, but today I saw on this
>>> page[1] something that confused me, saying that I have an x86_64 arch I 
>>> have a
>>> Toshiba A135-S4427 with Intel dual core 1.73Ghz here's the output of
>>> /proc/cpuinfo
> 
>>>  CUT
>>> processor   : 0
>>> vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
>>> cpu family  : 6
>>> model   : 14
>>> model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
>>> stepping: 8
>>> cpu MHz : 800.000
>>> cache size  : 2048 KB
>>> physical id : 0
>>> siblings: 2
>>> core id : 0
>>> cpu cores   : 2
>>> fdiv_bug: no
>>> hlt_bug : no
>>> f00f_bug: no
>>> coma_bug: no
>>> fpu : yes
>>> fpu_exception   : yes
>>> cpuid level : 10
>>> wp  : yes
>>> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
>>> cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
>>> arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
>>> bogomips: 3460.63
>>> clflush size: 64
> 
>>> processor   : 1
>>> vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
>>> cpu family  : 6
>>> model   : 14
>>> model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
>>> stepping: 8
>>> cpu MHz : 800.000
>>> cache size  : 2048 KB
>>> physical id : 0
>>> siblings: 2
>>> core id : 1
>>> cpu cores   : 2
>>> fdiv_bug: no
>>> hlt_bug : no
>>> f00f_bug: no
>>> coma_bug: no
>>> fpu : yes
>>> fpu_exception   : yes
>>> cpuid level : 10
>>> wp  : yes
>>> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
>>> cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
>>> arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
>>> bogomips: 3457.55
>>> clflush size: 64
>>>  CUT
> 
>>> So which arch do I really have??
> 
>>> [1]: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f8/en_US/sn-which-arch.html
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

As you have an Intel Core Duo, you should have the EMT64E version -
Intel's version of the AMD64 instruction set - thus x86-64 compatible.

Best place to check is Intel's website - here's what I found:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sspec=sl9dv
http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/core/duodocumentation.htm

With EMT64E, you will be able to compile for 64-bit mode using the
x86-64 builds. (You can only use Intel64 if you have the Itanium procs
if memory serves.)

However, unless you specifically install the x86-64/AMD64/64-bit
version, you will have a 32-bit x86 environment and kernel. You can
upgrade if you like...see other threads for that info.

HTH,

Ben

Wael Nasreddine wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> It's been like 6 months I'm using the arch i686, but today I saw on this
> page[1] something that confused me, saying that I have an x86_64 arch I have a
> Toshiba A135-S4427 with Intel dual core 1.73Ghz here's the output of
> /proc/cpuinfo
> 
>  CUT
> processor   : 0
> vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
> cpu family  : 6
> model   : 14
> model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
> stepping: 8
> cpu MHz : 800.000
> cache size  : 2048 KB
> physical id : 0
> siblings: 2
> core id : 0
> cpu cores   : 2
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level : 10
> wp  : yes
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
> cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
> arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
> bogomips: 3460.63
> clflush size: 64
> 
> processor   : 1
> vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
> cpu family  : 6
> model   : 14
> model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
> stepping: 8
> cpu MHz : 800.000
> cache size  : 2048 KB
> physical id : 0
> siblings: 2
> core id : 1
> cpu cores   : 2
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level : 10
> wp  : yes
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
> cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
> arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
> bogomips: 3457.55
> clflush size: 64
>  CUT
> 
> So which arch do I really have??
> 
> [1]: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f8/en_US/sn-which-arch.html
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Default sound card for output...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:03:01 -0500
> schrieb "Benjamen R. Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> My system has two sound-cards - one on the motherboard (snd_intel8x0)
>> and an one via PCI (SB Audigy/snd_emu10k1). I don't mind having the
>> driver compiled for the snd_intel8x0 card, but I want the Audigy as my
>> default card chosen for playback.
>>
> [SNIP]
>> So what's the easiest way to set the Audigy as my default sound card?
>> If I have to use uDev, then what's the easiest way to identify and
>> order the devices and be able to capture all their sub-devices as
>> well?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> there's a HOWTO for this on the Gentoo wiki site (gentoo-wiki.com). I'd
> link to it, but I can't reach the site right now as it won't load.
> There's also some info and an example (albeit for Debian) on the ALSA
> project wiki:
> 
> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/MultipleCards#Multiple_Sound_Cards_--_Example_on_Debian_GNU.2FLinux

Thanks that did the trick. I was unable to get to the Gentoo Wiki site
too, but Google's cache of the ALSA docums worked just fine:

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:jt--8lMDQMsJ:gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix+gentoo+wiki+multiple+sound+cards&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Now it all works! :->

Thanks.

Ben
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[gentoo-user] Default sound card for output...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

My system has two sound-cards - one on the motherboard (snd_intel8x0)
and an one via PCI (SB Audigy/snd_emu10k1). I don't mind having the
driver compiled for the snd_intel8x0 card, but I want the Audigy as my
default card chosen for playback.

Some applications (e.g. Rosegarden) let me select the card. Others (e.g.
embedded flash) do not.

I'm running KDE 3.5.8, but can't see something that will let me set the
default card beyond choosing ALSA.

Is there any way that I can set the Audigy to be the default card?

Both drivers are loaded by udev - so I guess there's something I could
do there to control order...but I'm not that familiar with writing udev
rules.

I've figured out how to identify them somewhat using udev rules;
however, the Audigy is not unique enough across the types of devices
(e.g. audio, admmidi, amidi, etc.)...


So what's the easiest way to set the Audigy as my default sound card? If
I have to use uDev, then what's the easiest way to identify and order
the devices and be able to capture all their sub-devices as well?

TIA,

Ben
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[gentoo-user] openexr vs. ilmbase

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

I went to update my system (emerge world -vuDNp) and noticed a block by
openexr (being updated) on ilmbase (new package). So, I was wondering
what they are and which one I should be using.

media-libs/openexr-1.6.1 [1.4.0a]   Update!
media-libs/ilmbase-1.0.1New!
http://www.openexr.com/
I noticed they are both ILM (Industrial Light & Magic) file format
stuff, and that OpenEXR split back in December 2006 into three packages:
ilmbase 0.9, OpenEXR 1.5, OpenEXRViewers 0.9. And then in August
everything upgraded to 1.0, 1.6, 1.0 respectively; with a further update
in October to 1.0.1, 1.6.1, 1.0.1 respectively.

So okay - openexr 1.4.0a needs to be removed and openexr 1.6.1 installed
instead with ilmbase 1.0.1 also installed, no?

But then why is emerge wanting to install openexr 1.5 too?

But what's the best way to do the update? I could just unmerge (emerge
-C) openexr and then do the update, and remerge openexr afterwards if
need be. Or is there a better way?

TIA,

Ben
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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Firewall & UPNP

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

I would like to be able to fully participate in Torrents for downloading
ISO, such as the Gentoo ISOs. However, since my gentoo/iptables firewall
currently is not forwarding any ports to my client systems, so I appear
as a torrent leech - I'd like to try to change that.

I'm using kTorrent under Gentoo/KDE, which supports interfacing via UPNP
to enable specific forwarding, which I would like to try to take
advantage of for security reasons.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_UPnP_with_IPTables

I noticed the URL above on how to do UPNP via linux-igd, but I'm not
sure that's what I want. I searched emerge for UPNP and saw a number of
packages in the list. I was wondering if anyone here has had any
experience (good/bad/otherwise) on setting up a Gentoo-based ipTables
Firewall for UPNP, or what packages people might recommend for it.

While I am mostly concerned with having kTorrent work on my Gentoo
Desktop, I might also be interested in using BitTorrent on a Win2k
Laptop too - I don't know if it supports UPnP or not (possible), but if
it was easy to support, I might be inclined to. (If not, no big loss.)
So I'd welcome thoughts on that as well towards the above questions.

TIA,

Ben

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[gentoo-user] Apache build error...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

I'm trying to update the software on my system, among which is Apache,
going from 2.2.6-r5 to 2.2.6-r7. However, I am running into a problem
with it.

Apparently the old install was using the apache2-builtin-mods file; so I
followed the documentation at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-upgrading.xml to convert it over to
the APACHE2_MODULES and APACHE2_MPMS - but it is still giving me the
same error - that mime, dir, and host_authz are disabled.

After searching on-line, I found the post below which the user solved
the issue by adding mime, dir, and host_authz to their package.use flag
for apache2. However, that did not solve it for me.

Below is the output of "emerge -vuDN" captured via script, where I
stopped via CTRL+C after it posted its message claiming that the build
would be "unsupported". After that I cat'd my /etc/make.conf file in its
entirely (not long yet), and also ran:

cat /etc/portage/package.use | grep apache2

To try to add the relevant lines from /etc/portage/package.use.

I'm at a loss of what to do. Any help or direction would be greatly
appreciated.


TIA,

Ben

Script started on Sat Jan 26 17:43:06 2008
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/emerge-to-run[?1034hwitness
emerge-to-run # emerge - world -VUDN    vud DNp 
]0;Started emerge on: Jan 26, 2008 17:43:23]0; *** emerge --newuse
--deep --update --verbose world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world
dependencies   - | - | - \ \ \ \ / | - | - |
| - | - / - / / - \ \ - | \ - / \ / \
/ / - \ | - \ | / - \ | / - | - / \ -
/ \ / | - | - | - \ / - | - \ | - | -
/ | - | \ - | / - \ | / \ | - | / - \
| - / | \ / | \ - / \ - / | / \ / - \
/ - \ | / - \ | \ - / \ - / | \ - \ /
| / \ | - \ | / \ / \ | - / \ / | - |
- | / \ / \ | / \ | / - | \ / \ - / |
- | \ - / | - \ \ \ | - - / \ | \
\... done!
[ebuild U ]
www-servers/apache-2.2.6-r7
[2.2.6-r5] USE="ssl
threads* -debug
-doc -ldap
(-selinux) -sni%
-static% -suexec%
(-mpm-event%) (-mpm-itk%)
(-mpm-peruser%)
(-mpm-prefork%) (-mpm-worker%)
(-no-suexec%)
(-static-modules%)"
APACHE2_MODULES="-actions%
-alias% -asis%
-auth_basic% -auth_digest%
-authn_alias% -authn_anon%
-authn_dbd% -authn_dbm%
-authn_default% -authn_file%
-authz_dbm% -authz_default%
-authz_groupfile% -authz_host%
-authz_owner% -authz_user%
-autoindex% -cache%
-cern_meta% -charset_lite%
-dav% -dav_fs%
-dav_lock% -dbd%
-deflate% -dir%
-disk_cache% -dumpio%
-env% -expires%
-ext_filter% -file_cache%
-filter% -headers%
-ident% -imagemap%
-include% -info%
-log_config% -log_forensic%
-logio% -mem_cache%
-mime% -mime_magic%
-negotiation% -proxy%
-proxy_ajp% -proxy_balancer%
-proxy_connect% -proxy_ftp%
-proxy_http% -rewrite%
-setenvif% -speling%
-status% -unique_id%
-userdir% -usertrack%
-version% -vhost_alias%"
APACHE2_MPMS="-event% -itk%
-peruser% -prefork%
-worker%" 0 kB
[ebuild  N]
app-admin/eselect-fontconfig-1.0  0 kB
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Galevsky wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2007 10:31 PM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Unlike commonly perceived wisdom I don't think that LVM is a panacea for all
>> ills, or a necessity as such.  It is however bloody convenient, especially on
>> a growing fs.  A server that is not expected to change much in size, probably
>> does not need it.  On the other hand some servers (file, mail, news servers)
>> are bound to continue to accumulate data and their fs will increase in time.
>> I would argue that the former type of server can happily live in a few 
>> primary
>> partitions + 1 extended with a number of logical partitions, if you are going
>> for a multi-partitioned scheme, while the latter type of server will greatly
>> benefit from LVM.  Of course, if hard drive redundancy is necessary, then I
>> can't see how you could live without LVM + RAID.
> I understand you on "LVM is not a must for very stable servers", but
> since I can't see any good reason not to use LVM,  I see no reason to
> limit your abilities to extended partitions. We have the opportunity
> to be more flexible with LVM, why should we not get it ? To loose the
> ability to extend a partition by adding a new HD without any pain ? I
> mean, if you don't know how to use it, I understand that you may skip
> installing a LVM system, but when you did it once, I see no reason to
> install your new systems without. So, I am interested in your advice
> about LVM is not the universal solution for partitions management,
> since I am sure I have something to learn from you experience.

Agreed. As I said in another e-mail on the list, I use to use extended
partitions - at one point I had about 10 or so partitions on a single
drive (3 primary, the rest from an extended partition). This worked well
under Windows 9x, but was a pain after moving to Linux. It wasn't that I
had mis-scoped the size of the data for those partitions, just that my
needs changed (mainly user related needs, not system related needs), and
managing extended partitions is a lot of work. I very much understand
LVM and what would do for me, and would very much like to hear why
simple extended partitions would be better for any scenario but the most
limited of scenarios where LVM was just not possible (e.g. the system
could not run a kernel that supported LVM; or RAM on the system was too
limited to support running LVM; etc.)...I'm not sure I agree that they
would be.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
>> 
>> With regards to your 47G /usr/portage partition I think that it is a waste 
>> of 
>> space.  It won't harm you other than the fact that the 3.8G OS partition is 
>> in all likelihood too small.  This is what I would do: tar the contents 
>> of /usr/portage elsewhere (even in the 3.8G partition - it should fit if you 
>> clear any cruft and, or use bzip).  Delete the 47G partition and use gparted 
>> to enlarge the 3.8G partition to say, 8-10G.  Then create a new partition 
>> say 
>> another 8-10G for /usr/portage.  Then create anymore separate partitions you 
>> may need (for /home and what have you). mkfs as required, modify 
>> your /etc/fstab and move your data in your respective new partitions.  If 
>> you 
>> think your fs is/are going to grow use LVM instead, otherwise primaries and 
>> if you need more than 4 then (extended + logical).
> Well, I'm no expert but this has worked for me and this is a 4 or 5 year
> old install.  Your mileage may vary.  From cfdisk:

> As you can see, I have plenty of space available for future additions,
> like a space hogging KDE 4.0.  :-)  The fullest one is /usr/portage
> which I clean up on occasion with eclean.  If I ever change them around
> again, I will put /var on a separate partition but other than that, it
> works pretty well.  May make root smaller then as well.
> A lot of this depends on what you are doing with the box tho.  It's just
> something you have to sort of work out as you go which may be why some
> recommend EVMS or LVM.  I have read up on it but just never got up the
> nerve to try it yet.  This is a desktop mostly used to surf the net and
> run foldingathome on.
> Hope this helps tho.

Thanks for the info guys. Yeah - the server has been pretty steady. I
use to run it on a P90 with an 8.4 GB (7.6 formatted) hard drive running
Slackware and just upgraded to the P2 with Gentoo, namely so I can keep
it up to date more. I run Gentoo at work, but the firewall prevents me
from getting portage updates there as they block RSYNC and FTP, and the
HTTP is authenticated which causes me a lot of pain under *nix. So in
some respects I am pretty new to some of this stuff per Gentoo.

LVM is certainly not out of the question, I just don't have the time to
rebuild the system again - especially since I just built it. So I'd need
a path to getting to it.

As per the the suggestion of blasting away the 47 GB partition - I'm not
sure that's an option. I got away from using Logical partitions a long
time ago after I moved to Linux as I found them to be too problematic -
I'd never have enough space on the partition I needed space on and to
rework it to have enough would require moving around others too. And, as
you can see from my other e-mail, I already have 4 primary partitions on
each drive (swap included); so I would certainly go to LVM instead of
logical partitions.

That said, the system itself won't change much, but the current drive
layout is probably not the best for where space needs to really be. So I
really am open to changing it, but need to do so on the fly with a few
reboots and (most importantly) without reinstalling. I do realize Linux
makes it pretty easy to move around from partition to partition, which I
have done, just not sure how LVM plays into it - thus my other e-mail
asking about a path to getting there. (FYI - I did check and LVM2's
device-mapper is enabled in the kernel, so it should be pretty straight
forward.)

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:50:33 Benjamen R. Meyer wrote:
>> I set up a server system a little while ago, and in performing updates
>> to portage it ran out of disk space as I didn't quite allow enough space
>> on the root partition (3.8 GB).
> That's way too much. 256M is enough.

/ is the primary drive for the OS; I typically only off-load to other
partitions for user stuff. On the server, I initially only offloaded
/home and /usr/local; but in the crisis of the "out of diskspace" issue,
I ended up also offloading /var/tmp and /usr/portage.

>> As a result, I took a partition that I had cleaned up (this was from a
>> rebuild of a system that was a different
>> distro in the past) and moved over /usr/portage to it. It's a 47 GB
>> partition (as reported by df -h) and the system works fine.
>> I do realize that if the mount command got screwed up, I'd probably have
>> issues recovering the system, but that is that system.
>> I am now thinking of converting my desktop over to Gentoo as well, and
>> was wondering whether what I did above on the server was wise or not.
> I think it is not. You'll undoubtedly get different answers about this,
> but IMHO it is best (regardless what kind of system) to use small,
> special purpose logical volumes. This way you can add space when needed,
> use the filesystem that fits best for the kind of data you store on this
> volume and have a certain degree of safety against volume corruption.
> Here is what I would recommend for a normal linux system:
> [hs]da1: /boot, 64M, ext2
> [hs]da2: /, 256M, ext3 or xfs
> [hs]da3: LVM
> Then, create a volume group spawning [hs]da3 with name vg00 (you can
> choose the name freely) and create logical volumes inside:
> /dev/vg00/swap: size as needed, swapfs # can be omitted if enough RAM
> /dev/vg00/usr: /usr, 2-5G (dep. on number of pkgs), ext3 or xfs
> /dev/vg00/var: /var, 512M-1G, ext3 or xfs
> For /home, I prefer to have one LV per user, like /dev/vg00/john_doe,
> /dev/vg00/jane_doe and have the kernel automounter mount them on demand
> (at login time).
>> I will be using the server as the portage provider for my desktop too.
>> Otherwise, what is the recommended space to have available for the
>> portage tree in /usr/portage so I can have root as an appropriately
>> sized partition?
> Here again, I use the kernel automounter to mount three different LVs
> under /gentoo when needed: /dev/vg00/build (5.5G to be able to build
> OO.org), /dev/vg00/distfiles for the source packages and
> /dev/vg00/overlays for overlays, incl. the portage tree.
> On the desktop machine, you should be able to mount distfiles and
> overlays from the server via NFS. The build volume I would leave locally
> on the desktop to get faster build times (unless your network connection
> to your server is faster than harddisc access).

I don't like using NFS much...guess I'll have to change that as I would
like to centralize my server as a one-stop shop for usernames and
passwords for the few systems on my network - server, desktop, and a
laptop at present, but there will also be a few others shortly too. The
laptop runs Windows 2k, so it'll just auth against Samba...any how...to
get back to this issue...

I haven't played with LVM yet. It's been something that's intrigued me,
but I haven't ever researched it much to play with it. What you guys
propose above and in this thread is quite interesting, so I'll follow up
with this question:

Right now I have the server configured per drives as follows:

/dev/hda1   /3.8 GB   4096.19 MB
/dev/hda2   /home   15.0 GB  15356.60 MB
/dev/hda3   SWAP 2.6 GB   2665.00 MB
/dev/hda4   /usr/local   4.9 GB   5255.96 MB

/dev/hdb1   EMPTY   66.3 GB  67875.02 MB
/dev/hdb2   /var/tmp28.0 GB  30721.43 MB
/dev/hdb3   /usr/portage47.0 GB  51202.37 MB
/dev/hdb4   SWAP10.0 GB  10240.48 MB

It's only got a 192 MB of RAM - a PII/233, so I'm giving it generous
swap space. (My desktop is an AMD64 with  a gig of RAM.) I seem to have
a sizable partition free (hdb1), so this just might work - but how would
you guys propose I transition from the above setup to an LVM setup? All
partitions are currently ext3 (my preferred fs for linux).

I don't think I'd be able to do that on my desktop right now...namely in
that rebuilding it from Slackware to Gentoo is going to be trying
enough, but I think I can manage it - namely from the side of downtime,
but I'd also like to try to fully utilize the AMD64 in the system -
meaning 64-bit where possible. Any how...for now, I'd like to hear ab

[gentoo-user] Mounting Question...

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

I set up a server system a little while ago, and in performing updates
to portage it ran out of disk space as I didn't quite allow enough space
on the root partition (3.8 GB). As a result, I took a partition that I
had cleaned up (this was from a rebuild of a system that was a different
distro in the past) and moved over /usr/portage to it. It's a 47 GB
partition (as reported by df -h) and the system works fine.

I do realize that if the mount command got screwed up, I'd probably have
issues recovering the system, but that is that system.

I am now thinking of converting my desktop over to Gentoo as well, and
was wondering whether what I did above on the server was wise or not. I
will be using the server as the portage provider for my desktop too.
Otherwise, what is the recommended space to have available for the
portage tree in /usr/portage so I can have root as an appropriately
sized partition?

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration

[Benjamen R. Meyer]

kashani wrote:
> Mark Shields wrote:
> 
>> eth0 gives you the default gw via DHCP, and you're trying to set a
>> default gw for eth1, right?  If so, you can't do that.  There can only
>> be one default gateway (hence the name).  What are the functions of
>> the NICs on the private networks (eth1/eth2)?
>>
> 
> 
> 
> You can have as many default gateways or perhaps gateway of last
> resort or the least specific gateway are better names as your routing
> engine can support. There is nothing special about a default gateway.
> It's just a route like all other routes, just far less specific.
> 
> By default Linux uses the first 0.0.0.0/0 route you set. However by
> turning on advanced routing in the kernel you can configure more than
> one. Unfortunately Linux will do per packet instead of the fancier per
> TCP stream that most routers do by default these days. Per packet round
> robins between your gateways and can cause packets to arrive out of
> order in some cases. Per stream, this isn't quite the right terminology
> but you get the idea, has the downside that one large connection like
> your db backing up to a remote server can swamp a single gateway.
> 
> Going back to the original question I don't you're having a routing
> problem though I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're doing. Once
> a packet reaches any interface of your route/firewall the Linux should
> be aware of all local networks. Unless you're routing specific non
> connected networks to various interfaces you shouldn't need any
> additional routes.
> 
> A netstat -rn should look roughly like this:
> 
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination GatewayGenmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
> 24.x.x.43  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0   0 eth0
> 127.0.0.0  127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   UG0 0   0 lo
> 10.x.11.1  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0   0 eth1
> 10.x.12.1  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0   0 eth1:0
> 10.x.21.1  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0   0 eth2
> 10.x.22.1  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0   0 eth2:0
> 0.0.0.024.x.x.10.0.0.0 UG0 0   0 eth0
> 
> However unless you have enabled ip_forward on your router, Linux is
> unlikely to route packets from one interface to another. I'm betting
> that's your problem.
> 
> kashani

Here's the routing tables as I have them now:

Routing table on the old server:
Kernel IP routing table
DestinationGateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUseIface
 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0   U 0  00 eth1
172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth2
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
0.0.0.0  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth1

Routing table on the new server:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination GatewayGenmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.7.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
192.168.6.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
192.168.5.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
192.168.4.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
192.168.9.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
192.168.9.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth2
192.168.8.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
0.0.0.0 <"public" ip> 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

This was only after I removed the route_eth1() and route_eth2() entries
from /etc/conf.d/net.. Perhaps that is the right way...given the
similarities...before I was also getting "G" entries for eth1 and eth2.

(The IP usage on my old server was weird for some historic reasons. So
there are differences in IP ranges simply because I am correcting what
contributed to the weirdnesses and using a more correct usage. The old
server also is not showing the aliases in the routing table - I hadn't
added specific routing commands for them.)

I've been a bit busy this weekend, so I didn't get to try iproute2 yet,
but will be as soon as I get a chance. Will post the results when I do.

Ben
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