Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Missing more mails than ever
John J. Foster wrote: Does anyone here know who runs this list? The number of missing emails is running quite high lately, and some threads are getting hard to follow, depending on the respondents quoting and snipping style. I seem to have missed almost half of the discussion on domainname going on. I know everyone isn't having this problem, but I see more and more folks mentioning it. File a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org (if there is not one there already) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vitesse VSC8601 Lan support
Helge Kaltenbach wrote: just wanted to check if anyone knows if there is a linux driver out for that gigabit lan chip...didnt find a lot with google. its on my msi k9n neo f mainboard.. Pretty sure it is supported by forcedeth. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb hp cd-writer 8200 series
Alexander Fortwinder wrote: I'd appreciate if anyone tell me what kernel options are needed to make my usb drive to work. Thanks, Alex Probably CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_USBAT. But you'll have to use something brand new such as 2.6.18-rc2, I broke HP8200 for most users for a few releases. Sorry about that. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with gst-plugins-mad depclean
Peter Kelly wrote: /var/db/pkg/media-plugins/gst-plugins-mad-0.6.4/gst-plugins-mad-0.6.4.ebuild: line 10: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' /var/db/pkg/media-plugins/gst-plugins-mad-0.6.4/gst-plugins-mad-0.6.4.ebuild: line 12: syntax error: unexpected end of file Not too surprising, since the ebuild looks like # Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Technologies, Inc. # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-plugins/gst-plugins-mad/gst-plugins-mad-0.6.4.ebuild,v 1.8 2004/03/07 22:40:56 avenj Exp $ inherit gst-plugins KEYWORDS="x86 ppc sparc alpha hppa amd64 ia64" IUSE="" DEPEND="media-sound/madplay^A Just correct ^A to " Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what's exactly --deep for ?
Enrico Weigelt wrote: What happens when a newer version of A requires some newer version of B than currently installed ? Is B updated automatically ? Yes. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm 1.12 vs 2.5.2
Trenton Adams wrote: There appeared to be a version bump around 1.12, according to gentoo change logs. This bumped it to 2.0. Does that mean that 1.12 is very similar to 2.0, and that the version bump was really the only change? The ChangeLog is for the ebuild, when we say "version bump" we mean we simply renamed the ebuild without making any substantial changes *to the ebuild*. This doesn't say anything about the changes in the actual software package, you'd have to look in the mdadm upstream changelog for that. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Kernel Warning
Daniel Drake wrote: However, there is a new security bug in the wild, with similar implications. Keep an eye open for new kernel releases over the next few hours. No patch yet, suitable workaround is: # mount -o remount,noexec /proc Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Kernel Warning
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: As of this morning, the latest Kernel version in portage is 2.6.16-r12. It seems that there is a different versioning / naming scheme used but im not sure. Can someone please let me know how to respond, or point me to appropriate reading so I can protect myself. 2.6.16-r12 is protected from this bug. From the ChangeLog: *gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r12 (06 Jul 2006) 06 Jul 2006; Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r12.ebuild: Update to Linux 2.6.16.24 for coredump privilege escalation security fix However, there is a new security bug in the wild, with similar implications. Keep an eye open for new kernel releases over the next few hours. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Build error: Gnome update
Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Requested 'gnome-vfs-2.0 >= 2.14.2' but version of gnome-vfs is 2.12.2 This is now fixed in the portage tree. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] weird behaviour - unable to connect to wireless router
Fernando Meira wrote: I been trying to connect my laptop to a wireless router but without success. The router is a common Linksys WRT54G. My pcmcia card is also a Linksys WPC54G. I am now using a new driver (bcm43xx), instead of ndiswrapper, but I think the problem is not from that. I did use my card with this new driver successfully before. The problem arises at the authentication stage. Somehow, I can't associate or authenticate with the damn router. Although stupid, I've tried with encryption enable/disable, DHCP server enable/disable and many other things that I can change in the router setup. Nothing seems to work. I could almost say I've tried everything. With a ether cable, works fine! And there is other laptop (running windows) connected via wireless to the router without any problem. This patch might help: http://tinyurl.com/gxoc5 Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vlc wants mozilla - but I don't
Richard Fish wrote: You can also file a bug that the nsplugin dependancy should be satisfied by mozilla-firefox-bin as well. I'm not sure that mozilla-firefox-bin is actually sufficient to configure vlc with --enable-mozilla=firefox, but that should be easy enough to determine. I doubt it. mozilla-firefox-bin does not provide any of the development libraries (e.g. gtkmozembed) or headers. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux' IO performance sucks
� wrote: So about every 200MB (i guess the linux box writes the data into the cache in the RAM first) linux writes the harddisk. But during that time - during the time it writes that 200MB to disk, there is no chance for any other IO. I'm playing an mp3 from the very same fileserver. It stops playing, because the machine does answer the read-requests. Is this an IDE disk? Sounds like you don't have DMA enabled. Check with (e.g.) hdparm -d /dev/hda Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo UK 2006 Conference: London, July 8th
Hi, A quick note for those who have not heard about it already: We are hosting a users-and-developers conference in Central London on July 8th. Anyone interested in Gentoo is welcome to attend. The day will consist of presentations and sessions run by Gentoo developers, plus one or two from external speakers. There will be plenty of opportunity for socialising with other users and developers before and after the event. For more info, see the event website: http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/gentoo-uk-2006/ Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux make modules solved
Justin R Findlay wrote: I finally figured out why linux wouldn't build its modules. Although I learned a lot about make it was because I had set GREP_OPTIONS="--color=always" Using "--color=auto" would have circumvented this problem and still given you pretty colours when you run grep from the console. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system crumbling, reports of gcc death
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mfpmath=sse -msse2 -mmmx -fPIC -Wl,-O1 -ldl-Wl,-O1) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. The extra flags may be coming from your environment. From the same terminal where you would run emerge, run the following: set | grep O1 Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help with UDEV and USB flash drive
Richard Fish wrote: One problem with this. Udev will apply all matching rules until it finds one with a NAME entry. So you probably want MODE:="0666" to prevent any later rules from overwriting your mode. This isn't entirely true, udev doesn't stop at NAME any more. It stops at the end of the rules files, or when it sees OPTIONS="last_rule". Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up portage
Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote: emerge sync cleans up after itself. Rather, rsync takes care of that, so do not expect to gain too much. /usr/portage/distfiles will be taking up much of that 1.5GB. It's safe to clean that. Cleanup of kernels is good, if they are portage managed than you can do something akin to this: emerge -c =gentoo-sources-- I think you mean -C You need to manually remove the directories after, to get rid of the objects and temporary files generated in compilation. Actually, you should do the remove operation first, because then the unmerge is quicker. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Low TCP RWIN value
Mick wrote: Reading another posters comments (you learn all sort of interesing stuff here ;-) I checked my internet connection using the SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer and discovered that my TCP Receive Window is somewhat smaller than anticipated, or than what a M$Windoze box which is running on the same LAN (using the same router) shows: Windoze box: Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 65535 Gentoo box: Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 5840 On Linux, RWIN starts low for every connection and then rises very rapidly as subsequent data transfers happen. You have an element of control over this in /proc/sys/net, but if I were you I'd just stick with the defaults and be happy with the knowledge that Linux's implementation of windowing is more dynamic, and the initial low value is nothing to go by :) Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller and alsa on amd64?
David Meyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:41:23AM -0800, David Meyer wrote: Has anyone gotten this to work? What I find is that the kernel fails in trying to load snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss (they have bunches of unknown symbols). Works for me. Fron dmesg: snd_pcm_oss: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_oss_device snd_pcm_oss: Unknown symbol snd_register_oss_device Are these definately the first errors that appear? Maybe you could include a couple of extra lines that appear before the first errors for clarification. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/hda not created
Michael George wrote: I've got one of my servers that doesn't have /dev/hda on it at boot time. I've got a lite-on DVD burner there that works just fine (once I create the device) and is noted as "hda" in the boot messages. However, /dev/hda doesn't exist. That's a problem. /dev/hda?* did exist, though... What is the output of "grep IDECD /usr/src/linux/.config" ? (ensure the /usr/src/linux link is up to date first) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge starts slowly
Justin Krejci wrote: Yes, the second run and subsequent runs for a period of time all seem to be fairly quick, but I thought it odd that my AMD64 system is always quick. The initial slowdown is due to portage having to scan over the entire tree of installed packages, calculating virtuals. Chances are your AMD64 system has fewer packages installed (and is faster by system specification too). Hopefully portage 2.1 will make improvements in this area. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
Ernie Schroder wrote: I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, but I can't find documentation on getting udev to start at boot. Sound and a few other things you don't notice right away fail to work until I do: # udevstart /dev/dsp is created with correct permissions and I'm good to go. The question is: How to I get udev to start at boot? Which version of udev do you have installed? What is the output of "cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug"? Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] inotify missing with 2.6.14-gentoo-r2
Yoandy Rodriguez wrote: Hello, After moving to 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 inotify device got lost. I have CONFIG_INOTIFY set to yes and /proc/filesystems shows a inotifyfs (never heard of it). any hint about what might be happening?? Inotify is now system-call based, so no device node is created. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why autoconf?
Frank Schafer wrote: Why the hick are there so much versions of autoconf (in system)? Well, somewhere in the [Nasty bug..] thread someone (again) mentioned, that different packaged depend on different versions of autoconf. That's NOT the truth for building a package. Autoconf and automake provide tools to CREATE configure scripts. They are completely unnecessary to BUILD or RUN the packages. I've built a full featured LFS system some time ago without autoconf and automake installed at all. It is a good thing to have all these versions in portage for the case someone wants to involve in development of a package, which will be based on some version of the autoconf/automake double but IMHO they shouldn't be part of system and if, then only one (the latest stable ;) version. By nature, a Gentoo installation features a fairly complete build and development environment. The ebuilds for many packages modify the "build-scripts" used to produce software releases, and these scripts must be piped through autoconf/automake/etc for the Gentoo changes to take place. This is not the case for all packages, but is true for a large number. And yes, it is true that the different autoconf versions *are* incompatible with each other, so there is a reason for installing a range of them alongside each other. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /dev/cdrom has gone!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i alway build it into kernel, i already checked my config file, the "BLK_DEV_IDECD=y" is just there. Are you really really sure? What do you have in /sys/bus/ide/drivers ? Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Something wrong with udev: cdrom dev-file does not appear!
Hi Cadaver, Cadaver wrote: udevd doesn't create's device file, but when i manualy copy it from static dev tree my cdrom works fine, and sometimes udevd even creates symlinks on it (i.e. cdrom and cdrw), but this is not restore's after reboot. What's going wrong with it? I'm running 2.6.12 kernel whith udev version 068. Build IDE cdrom support into your kernel. Don't use it as modular unless you are prepared to load the module (or create the device node) yourself :) Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom /dev/cdroms/cdrom to /dev/hdc?
Michael W. Holdeman wrote: Actually the problem is /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 has been the cdrom since this machine got Gentoo, now all the sudden it is listed in dmesg as /dev/hdc. dmesg has listed it like that for a long time. Chances are in your previous configuration (whatever that was) you had both /dev/hdc and /dev/cdroms/cdrom0, one was the real node and one was a symlink. On my system, cdrom0 is a symlink to hdc. This is probably all related to a baselayout problem, KDE is messed up with kdesu, I can't upgrade my nvidia-kernel, and nvidia-glx above 1.0.7174 or I get version mismatches. Sounds like /usr/src/linux is incorrect or you just need to reload the nvidia module after upgrading. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SCSI Emulation Problem for USB
Tobias wrote: Please help! It would help if you started by explaining what you are trying to do, what you have tried, what problems you have faced, etc. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unison requires Mozilla, doesn't accept Firefox?
Hi, Mark Knecht wrote: I could look at removing the global mozilla flag and using it only on certain apps, but really I'm wondering why Unison didn't accept Firefox as a browser and wondering if the ebuild for it, or more likely evolution-data-server, could be improved in that area. I don't know what unison is, but in most cases you can't just swap out firefox for mozilla. Firefox is a web browser. Mozilla is a web browser (with email client, etc) plus a sofware development kit and relevant development libraries. So even though you are asking "Why does it need mozilla? I have firefox, won't that do?", the answer (in the usual scenarios) is no, as they are very different packages and firefox does not provide a lot of stuff which mozilla does. Hopefully in the future, mozilla will split out the SDK/libraries into a seperate package so that you don't have to install the mozilla webbrowser/emailer/etc. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [asking again] keyboard/mouse woes on 2.6 kernel
Ben Munat wrote: PS: I also found the following stuff in my logs starting at the time when I lost control of the keyboard and mouse; there's this MTRR stuff and then hundreds of lines with the call trace stuff: Aug 16 22:46:31 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cd80,80 found Aug 16 22:46:31 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cc00,100 found Aug 16 22:46:31 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cd00,80 found Aug 16 22:46:38 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cc00,100 found Aug 16 22:46:38 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cd00,80 found Aug 16 22:46:56 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cd80,80 found Aug 16 22:46:56 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cc00,100 found Aug 16 22:46:56 venus mtrr: no MTRR for cd00,80 found Aug 16 22:48:08 venus Aug 16 22:48:08 venus sibling Aug 16 22:48:08 venus task PC pid father child younger older Aug 16 22:48:08 venus init S 0 1 0 2 (NOTLB) Aug 16 22:48:08 venus dfe3fecc 0082 00d0 c01313c2 c0131656 c039f200 c039eb00 Aug 16 22:48:08 venus 0001 c14053e0 082a 534ee15d 0001d93f c0399bc0 Aug 16 22:48:08 venus c1527a20 c1527b44 1f056d90 1f056d90 dfe3fed4 0800 Aug 16 22:48:08 venus Call Trace: Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] Aug 16 22:48:08 venus [] This is what happens when you press Alt+SysRq+T. I assume you didn't actually press these keys..? Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/dvd playing up
Antoine wrote: Using mplayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mplayer dvd://1 Playing dvd://1. libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss. libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd /dev/dvd is there - but I am not sure if this is right. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/dvd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Aug 7 13:34 /dev/dvd -> hdc How about "ls -l /dev/hdc" ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Please unsubscribe!
Alex A. Smith MCP wrote: Ok so cause he was getting spammed its ok to spam us all? Does any one around here (Gentoo team or such) have access to remove him? I contacted Gentoo Infrastructure and he has now been unsubscribed. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge monodevelop -> dependency with mozilla
Catalin Trifu wrote: Thanks for the answer. I tried to hack the ebuild too and same result. I guess I would have to emerge mozilla too, but I don't like the idea at all. Perhaps the maintainers will find a solution to get rid of mozilla. Hopefully they will split out the SDK into its own package (in a nicer way than gecko-sdk!) now that there won't be mozilla monolithical releases beyond 1.7. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bizzarre I2C kernel selection
James wrote: I've got a very weird problem. When I go to build either a 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 or 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 kernel on a paticular AMD athlon, I cannot change the I2C selection: device driver -> I2C support option. It is a dash. Manually deleting the .config file does not help. I use 'make oldconfig on this machine' but I not certain that is what locked out this option. One of the other options you have selected depends on I2C so you are not able to deselect it. I have an identical MB with a different video card, that does not have this problem with the 2.4.12-gentoo-r4 kernel. But you are using a different kernel configuration. I even tried to manually edit the .config file in /usr/src/linux to correct the errant line to look like this: 'CONFIG_I2C_SENSOR=y' but it always remains incorrect: # Hardware Sensors Chip support # # CONFIG_I2C_SENSOR is not set I2C_SENSOR is a completely different option from the one that is locked on. I2C_SENSOR is a hidden option which appears to get turned on when you enable at least 1 specific sensor driver. The option that you have locked on is CONFIG_I2C. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory
Hi, Mark Shields wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem MemTotal: 1034284 kB MemFree:953172 kB Thanks for the tip. But strangely, 12mb is still missing. That sounds perfectly normal. The kernel usually secures 10-20mb RAM for itself, which isn't available to the rest of the system. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] make dev / udev question (1394 related)
Mark Knecht wrote: What's throwing me is that the libraw1394 emerge makes this limited complaint: Required /dev/raw1394 device file not found. Run 'make dev' to create it. This is more suited for the old-style 'static' /dev, where /dev was just a load of device nodes stored on disk. With more modern solutions (devfs/udev), you don't ever have to worry about creating device nodes, they are created automatically when the appropriate driver is loaded. Its safe to ignore this warning on Gentoo. It seems to me that if the device was moved by either udev or the Gentoo developers then shouldn't this package have been modified to understand that and not throw a message like this? Or is there possibly supposed to be a link of some type from /dev/raw1394 to /dev/raw/raw1394? I forgot about this one. This is a udev rule problem, which is supposed to deal with other raw devices, but not raw1394. It's been fixed for future udev versions, but for now, you can do this: # echo 'KERNEL="raw1394", SYMLINK="%k"' > /etc/udev/rules.d/10-raw1394.rules # udevstart Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] make dev / udev question (1394 related)
Hi, Mark Knecht wrote: which would have made the device. Is the fact that the device isn't created a problem with the ebuild? Even if it was, how should this really be created for a udev system? A rule somewhere in some udev.conf file? Its a kernel "bug" which is fixed in 2.6.12. If you upgrade, it will start working automatically. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Interesting install experience
Allan Gottlieb wrote: > *Very* interesting. Please let us know when the documentation is > available. I have build everything into the kernel (including alsa) > and so far it is working well, but I haven't stressed audio. What > problems should I be looking for and do you advise rebuilding the > kernel with alsa as modules even if we don't experience trouble with > everything built in? (I should have said all but nvidia built in). It's fine to build ALSA into the kernel if you are happy to configure it, which usually isn't too much hassle anyway. The reasoning behind compiling ALSA as modules is that it then gives you the option of using 'alsaconf'. alsaconf is a great little utility, which, providing you have built the modules, will configure pretty much any sound card for you, set up the system for autoloading the relevant modules and saving/restoring volume, and unmuting the channels. I came across it when i was attempting to get an ISA sound card going in an old computer. It just didn't work when built into the kernel or loading the module manually. I discovered alsaconf, which did some weird probing, and 20 secs later informed me of 4 cryptic parameters that were needed to pass to the module in order to find the sound card, as well as doing everything else I described above. Recently at work, I built *all* alsa drivers as modules, and proceeded to test 30-40 sound cards that we had lying around. ALSA supported every one of them that wasn't so broken that it stopped the PC booting, and alsaconf made it dead easy even with the older PCI cards and the ISA ones too. So, the advantage of building ALSA modules is that you can use alsaconf, which in most cases makes initial configuration a little bit simpler, and in some cases is a complete lifesaver. You might be interested in our recently revamped ALSA guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml And also, if you are interested in the upcoming kernel config doc, then you can add yourself to the CC list on http://bugs.gentoo.org/94955 Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with udev
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > I switched last night from devfs to udev and had the same kde problem. > I solved it by running udevstart as root. Oh, and I checked the permissions > file in /etc/udev If running 'udevstart' fixes your ownership/permissions problem, try logging in again and see if the problem reappears. If it does, then it means something is running on login and imposing its own permissions. This is probably pam, which you'll want to turn off. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Interesting install experience
Jim Hatfield wrote: > BTW, what is the received wistom wrt building things into the > kernel or building them as modules? As well as the G400 I have > an Intel NIC and a VIA sound card, and this time round chose to > build them in, though before I built them as modules. I'm not > clear as to the pros and cons. We are writing documentation on this at the moment. With manual configuration, build everything into the kernel unless you have a reason *not* to. Build ALSA (sound) as modules, since the ALSA utilities work better with modules. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login using KDM
Sean Higgins wrote: > Did you recently update your kernel? There is a problem with > gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4. There is a bug in iptables that causes problems > with KDE logins. If you stop iptables, your login will work. Just to clarify, this is a problem with all 2.6.12 releases (not just -gentoo-r4) > If you upgrade to gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r5, the problem will be solved. Yes, and it'll be fixed upstream for 2.6.12.3 and 2.6.13 :) Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody know where to ftp genpatches-2.6.12-7.base.tar.bz2?
Dave Nebinger wrote: > My sync occurred last night at 12:10 am EST but I didn't get a chance to > emerge -uD world until around 11am EST this morning. I searched through > 10-15 ftp mirrors manually looking for the file and it hadn't been released > anywhere that I could see. Just checked a few mirrors and it looks like our mirroring system isn't working correctly, in that it hasn't spread from our main mirror at osuosl. > Perhaps this is an issue on my end, that the sync that I'm automatically > performing at 12:10 am EST is during some synchronization window that I'm > not aware of since I got the ebuild before the distfile sync. They are not synchronized at all. I make the patch tarballs, and upload them to our mirroring system. I then wait 4-5 hours for them to appear on gentoo.osuosl.org, then I manually release the ebuild. Usually, by the time the ebuild hits the live portage tree, the tarballs have already spread onto many more mirrors. It's two separate processes, so theres no synchronization window to worry about. Filed a bug for this issue at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98250 Thanks, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody know where to ftp genpatches-2.6.12-7.base.tar.bz2?
Dave Nebinger wrote: > The only question I would have is why a new ebuild would be released before > the genpatches tarballs were made available in the distfiles... Wouldn't > the genpatches tarballs be requirements for the new ebuild? I always wait until the patches appear on the mother mirror before releasing the ebuild. I think you are just unlucky in the mirrors you have tried. It can be found here, and should have made itself onto all of the other mirrors by now. http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/genpatches-2.6.12-7.base.tar.bz2 Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMI MegaRAID 428 Ultra SCSI RAID Controller
Colin wrote: > It's not being detected under the LiveCD. I booted with doscsi, but I > don't see /dev/sda. In addition, lspci tells me this: > > :00:11.0 Unknown mass storage controller: American Megatrends Inc. > MegaRAID 428 Ultra RAID Controller (rev 04) > > What do I do? We should be supporting this hardware as of our 2005.1 release. Any chance you could post the "lspci -n" output? Thanks, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --inject to build code from CVS?
Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >I wanted to try a fix to lirc that's only in CVS. Is this a proper > way for me to do this? Is there a better way? Best to create a patch which includes this fix, then apply it to the last released version in a revision-bumped ebuild in your overlay. (have I confused you yet?) For a quick example, look at app-admin/gamin/gamin-0.1.1.ebuild - which patches a fix imported from the post-0.1.1 CVS (gamin-0.1.1-inotify-fix.patch) Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12 (was raw1394)
luis jure wrote: > thanks neil, mark and daniel for your comments, the different alternatives > are much more clear to me now. > > re kernel 2.6.12, what's its current status? visiting www.kernel.org i found > 2.6.12 (17-Jun-2005) and 2.6.12.1 (22-Jun-2005). i really don't get this 4 > numbers thing in 2.6... 2.6.12 is the 'main' release. A week later, two security issues come up. 2.6.12.1 is released with fixes for these issues *only* (i.e. very little difference from 2.6.12.2). Whereas 2.6.12 is made by Linus Torbalds, the followup 2.6.12.1 and 2.6.12.2 releases are made by seperate people who call it the "linux-stable" branch. This branch only includes critical bug fixes and security fixes. If you use gentoo-sources we automatically keep up with the linux-stable branch. For 2.6.12 you'll have to go into the testing (~arch) branch of portage though (I'm using the word "branch" in a totally different context here), read the Gentoo handbook if you are unsure. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] raw1394
Mark Knecht wrote: > > Daniel, >What sort of ATI support do we get inder 2.6.12 at this time? I've > noticed other threads talking about acceleration problems, or possibly > no TV out, etc. Both of these matter to me. I have no idea. Try it and find out :) Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] raw1394
luis jure wrote: > searching the web, all sources i found say that udev does not manage > ieee1394 devices, and that you must create the nodes manually with something > like this: I suggest you upgrade to Linux 2.6.12. It will then be created and managed automatically. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bugzilla and new ebuilds
James wrote: > Curiously the last part ' gentoo.org>' > does not show up in my mozilla.? You have to log in first. > Is this an actual huminoid/cyborg, or a solicitation for somebody > to maintain the package? Hah. It has to be a person :) > OK, I see his name at the bottom, but, if he's to be the 'substantiator' > of the jffnms ebuild, wouldn't he have fulfilled the > maintainer-needed email address?Or do developers do these things > in silence, clandestinely and then become the maintainer when the > package is stable? Or ebuild the package and then hand it off > to a poezrrr such as myself? I'm just not sure what the semantics are here. Could mean anything. He might have written an ebuild before trying the software, then decided the software wasn't worth it, or the ebuild writing was too hard, who knows. But you got a developer posting an ebuild on your new-ebuild bug - thats a lot more attention than a lot of these ebuild bugs get. I'd suggest you try the ebuild, and email him thanking him for writing it, letting him know that it works, and possibly offering your knowledge of the application to help develop the ebuild further. Motivate the developer to work on it and it will make progress :) (again, you'll need to log in to see email addresses) > Also, being over 45 puts me at a disadvantage with the lingo and > thought processes employed by those youthful minds.. > Anyway it's been a month since his comments. Maybe he's bored with jffnms, > or it's too difficult to create an ebuild, and he has given up and the > package is orphaned? How would I know, just sit around with a digit > up where no sun shines? You can ask him, either on the bug or by email. > > Surely it does not take a capable person a month to install Jffnms. > 1/3 of my attempts (on Debian) actuallywork, until I screwed something > up. It's not an easy package to install or configure. But, when it > is setup correctly, it a fantastic Network Management Package. > My strengths are more hardware and device driver type of stuff. > I'm definately not the web/application specialist it takes to conquer > a package such as jffnms. But, if the package has been orphaned, which > I'm still trying to ascertain, then I have no choice but to noodle > at the jffnms ebuild, do I? Whether I poez as the maintainer is > a horse of another color, methinks. Other interested developers may come along, find the bug, and put it into portage. Unfortunately this isn't very likely as maintaining an ebuild is a big commitment and a lot of work, and many us already have a big enough collection under our belts... >>No, we lack decent bugzilla documentation but hopefully this will be resolved >>soon... > > > Now your teasing me? > Can we peep at the unfinished work, if wezz promise to withhold > questions and comments? I don't think anyones started it yet. :( It's something I've been meaning to do for a long time but have not got round to it. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bugzilla and new ebuilds
James wrote: > emerge -s jffnms > Searching... > [ Results for search key : jffnms ] > [ Applications found : 1 ] > > * net-analyzer/jffnms [ Masked ] > Latest version available: 0.8.2 > Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] > Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] > Homepage:http://www.jffnms.org/ > Description: Network Management and Monitoring System. > License: GPL-2 > That doesn't exist in portage. My guess is that you have it in your overlay. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bugzilla and new ebuilds
James wrote: > In may I requested network management package be added to portage, > jffnms. It was entered into bugzilla (92501). Since then it has > progressed to a masked package in portage. I don't see it in portage. > I just (today) got email that is rather cryptic to me. Help understanding > what going on is most appreciated: > > > Clear-Text: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92501 > Secure: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92501 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: > >What|Removed |Added > >Keywords|REQUEST |EBUILD > > > > OK If I were to guess at the meaning, it's now an ebuild not a request any > more (even though the skeleton ebuild was created some weeks ago). Correct, the keyword should have been changed at that point but wasn't, so jakub fixed it up. > What puzzles me is that poking around I find this page: > http://bugs.gentoo.org/describekeywords.cgi > > Selecting The EBUILD row all the way to the right under the bugs column, the > number 4338 is linked to this page: > http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=EBUILD > > search for the keyword '92501' it looks as though they (gentoo denizens) > are looking for a maintainer? > > 92501 enh P2 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] > NEW net-analyzer/jffnms-0.8.2 ebuild request" You don't need to go to all that trouble to find that it was assigned to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open the bug itself: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92501 And towards the top, you see: Assigned To:Default Assignee for New Packages <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > OK, if my limited cerebrial functions are correct, it's dead in the water > until a 'maintainer' picks up the effort? Yes, maintainer being a member of the gentoo development group. > Is there anything I can do (like be a poezrrr and try to maintain this > package for the gentoo community?) Do you know how to write and understand ebuilds? If you don't, then you wouldn't make a very suitable maintainer :) If you did want to become the maintainer, you could read through our developer documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml http://dev.gentoo.org/~plasmaroo/devmanual/ You'd then apply to become a Gentoo developer, and after going through the recruitment stages, you could then add the ebuild to portage and become a maintainer of that as well as of other ebuilds. However, on your bug, you noticed that someone posted an ebuild for the package you requested. Marcelo is actually a Gentoo developer, so it may well be that he has an interest in the software. You may be in luck, as he may well develop the ebuild, add it to portage, and become the maintainer. > There's lots of information with Bugzilla, but much of it's enlightenment > does not seem intuitive to me, nor have a found a lucid document that > turns bugzilla into a knowledge tool. (obviously my_bad juju) No, we lack decent bugzilla documentation but hopefully this will be resolved soon... Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball
Mark Knecht wrote: > My question is how do the devices get created if TARBALL="no"? Is it > only the 50-udev.rules file that's responsible? The whole tarball thing is strongly against the ideas behind udev. udev reads information about your hardware from /sys (and listens for and creates nodes based on that. If you don't rely on the tarball stuff, it's perfectly safe to do: # rm -rf /dev/* # ls /dev # almost empty # udevstart # ls /dev # everything is back > I'm trying to debug > why none of my machines have the lirc/lirc0 devices like the Gentoo > Wiki's say they should. You need to load the lirc module first. But there is always the possibility that the lirc module is not sysfs-aware, in which case it won't put anything in /sys, so udev won't know anything about it. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't save Mixer config
Rafael Fernández López wrote: > I do use gnome and alsa for my sound. Everytime that I boot I've to set > up mixer properties and volumes, because it doesn't save them as > default. I don't know how to do it, but I don't like to set up it > everytime that I boot. The ALSA guide can probably help you out http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Holly Bostick wrote: > Rob, I regret to inform you that your syntax seems to be all wrong, and > this stands a good chance of being your problem. > > I don't myself use cdrecord directly all that often, but I did manage to > remember > >cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus Last time I checked (2.6.11), dev=ATAPI doesnt work, since its not related to a particular device node file, the kernel doesn't know whether you have write permissions to that device, so it denies write-related commands. As for which syntax is theoretically correct, thats the subject of an eternal discussion. The cdrecord author thinks ATAPI:x,y,z is correct, the kernel developers thing dev=/dev/cdrom is correct. But right now, you'll probably find that dev=/dev/cdrom is the only one that works when you actually come to writing. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Govind Chandra wrote: > cdrecord -scanbus says there are issues with kernel 2.5 and newer. > > Is there any way of writing CDs in Gentoo 2005.0? cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -scanbus Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64: "vanilla-sources" and the risk of using them
Holly Bostick wrote: > The "vanilla" sources are the same sources you would get on kernel.org. > No extra patches (as you would find in gentoo-dev-sources) or > optimizations/patches (as you would find in ck-sources) and no "bleeding > edge" patches (as you would find in mm-sources). > > The kernel doesn't get any more risk-free than vanilla-sources, because > if those sources are broken then Linux is broken. Official kernel releases have come out with fairly large bugs in the past. gentoo-sources-2.6 is obviously based on vanilla-sources, but includes a light patchset on top, mainly to solve security issues and to fix bugs which are already fixed in the current development version (currently 2.6.12-rc4). There are also a few feature patches applied but all new features are optional. The idea of gentoo-sources-2.6 is to be *more* stable than vanilla Linux, so I'm not quite sure why you'd change from gentoo-sources to vanilla-sources, unless you had a problem with a patch that we include, in which case I'd like to know about it :) Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] newbie's problems with Gentoo (messages on startup, installing gnuplot, running KDE) - part 4
Marcin Balcerzak wrote: > THE THIRD PROBLEM concearns KDE. > I've installed "everything" (according to emerge...) and it doesn't work. > The only result of startkde is writing on STDERR: Judging by this post, it looks like you haven't read the documentation at all. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=desktop Right now, you want the X server and KDE guides, but the others will also be useful as you get more things set up. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] newbie's problems with Gentoo (messages on startup, installing gnuplot, running KDE) - part 2
Marcin Balcerzak wrote: > When loading, just after: > Calculating module dependencies... > I've got 3 or 4 lines like: > error calling: "unlink" in 'GLOBAL' > and the last is ended with [OK]. > After some non-suspicious lines and > Setting user font [OK] > I've got: > action_compat: error unlinking: "*" No such file or directory > where * is, consecutively: vcs6, vcsa6, vcs7, vcsa7, vcs8, vcsa8, vcs9. These are devfs/devfsd messages. If you followed the instructions correctly, you would have not compiled devfs into your kernel, and you'd be using udev instead. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] next step X
cfk wrote: > After adding 3c59x to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, the partition > boots > fine with networking enabled. > > To answer the original question on modules, I just ran "genkernel" and took > all the defaults as I am new to Gentoo. Strange.. genkernel is supposed to autoload it for you like it does on the LiveCD. > I did then "emerge --sync" followed by "emerge kde" and I still get the > libtoolize version error. On this one, I am not sure which way to go next, > perhaps a little more advice ifyou dont mind. How about you post the error that appears, including the message which follows it, which will tell you which ebuild and package that the error occured in. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] next step X
cfk wrote: > I can do a "modprobe 3c95x" and lsmod shows it is loaded. I can then do an > "ifconfig eth0 up" and the interface is up (ping www.yahoo.com works). > > The file /etc/conf.d/net has two uncommented lines: > iface_eth0="dhcp" > gateway="eth0/10.10.10.1" > > I am suspecting that the netmount is the source of my confusion. Since > "modprobe 3c59x" allows the interface to then work just fine, there may be a > needed alias to tell the init script the PCI card for the ethernet interface > is a 3Com. If I recall, in some other distributions, there is an alias file > for modules and perhaps Gentoo is a little different then my previous > understanding. Is there any particular reason why you built 3c59x as a module as opposed to in-kernel? If you had built it in-kernel, you would not be having these problems - the kernel would just sort out the driver loading for you. Anyway, assuming you _do_ have a reason why you want it as a module, then you should add it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 assuming you are running a 2.6 kernel. > p.s Why would "emerge vi" say "no ebuilds". I have nano, but not vi yet. Try vim > p.p.s. After this step, the "emerge kde" tells me that libtool.m4 has the > wrong version and I need to run "libtoolize --copy --force". I run that, and > get the error "configure.ac does nto exist, run libtoolize --help. Invoking > "libtoolize --help" tells me I need to run it from the toplevel directory, > which I assume to be where the source for libtool.m4 would be. Where would > the default location for libtool be so I could run libtoolize properly, or > should I "emerge " Run emerge sync and try again. Which package is actually failing? I doubt it is the "kde" package itself, it is probably one of its dependencies. You are not expected to run libtoolize yourself. The ebuild in question should handle this, but you may be running into a bug. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems mounting CD-Rom Device
Cornelia Menzel wrote: > When I try to mount the device with: > paul # mount /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom > the system gives back: > mount: only root can do that! Try just: mount /mnt/cdrom That way, it will look at the settings you have put in fstab. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo source kernels
Ed Jabbour wrote: > I am running gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.11-r4. As announced, gentoo-dev-sources > has disappeared from sys/kernel leaving gentoo-sources. However, the Online > Database lists 2.4.28-r8 as the latest stable build. I just ran emerge uDvp > world and I am offered "NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r5", which > is marked M+ in the database. I do not have any kernel in any /etc/portage > files. Is the database not up to date or is something wrong at my end? Any > advice appreciated. Thanks. This is a bug in packages.gentoo.org. Well, strictly not a bug. packages.gentoo.org runs on a 2.4 kernel, and therefore uses a 2.4 profile. As you might expect, all 2.6 kernels are hardmasked under the 2.4 profile. An unfortunate side effect is that this is reflected in the content published on the site. I asked the maintainer if he could do anything to resolve this - i.e. change profile or refine the parsing. I didn't recieve a very positive answer. But this does raise other questions, particularly as we can now have much finer control over masking now that we have decent cascading profiles. If there was a 2.7/2.8 tree out, we'd have another profile tree for it, and we'd add masks in the other profiles accordingly to make sure 2.7/2.8 was not available in other profiles. Which kernels would packages.gentoo.org then show as masked..? Maybe more information (such as the profile enforcing the mask) will be available in the new version of the site which will hopefully go online soon. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
