Re: [gentoo-user] The Future of the Gentoo Foundation
Well, we should ask the devs as well, since I'd say they're the ones primarily involved with this. Or at least those who could actually do something about it. -- Samir On 7/27/07, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18315/The-Future-of-the-Gentoo-Foundation A friend provided me this link, and I'm a little worried... Is this truth, and if it is, how is this problem being solved? I guess this is the right place to ask, as all of us users should be concerned about this... -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] post handbook install guide?
if you've just completed a proper install from the handbook (presuming a bootable system, with bootloader, cron/syslog, etc). you really don't need to do a system. kde-meta (iirc should pull xorg as a dependency, so all you'd need is kde-meta and the world update, but you'd still need to add whatever software your user would use). Like, firefox would be nice for one. Gentoo is very minimalistic, presume nothing is installed until you do. -- Samir On 7/26/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Having just complete a handbook install, I'm looking around for the guides to install a typical workstation. Is it just emerge system emerge -N world (if/when USE flags change) emerge xorg-x11 emerge kde-meta Anything I missed (other than the listed packages in /var/lib/portage/world from a system resembling where this laptop should end up? suggestions? James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup
I'm actually trying a slightly different approach that's almost equivalent to doing a fresh install. If I don't bork this up, I'll write a lil wiki on how to do this. 1. create a loopback file system. dd if=/dev/zero of=baseimage bs=1k count=5242880 (5 gig image) 2. partition the baseimage 3. do your typical gentoo install on the baseimage file 4. sync data from baseimage fs, to / omitting /dev /proc /sys /home making sure this is all backed up 5. rerun grub to make sure everything is proper 6. reboot and pray. so, if I'm right, that should give me a clean fresh install. I'll take a backup of my /etc directory and I need to remember to backup mysql db, but I believe that should work fine. I would do this off a liveCD if I had physical access to the machine. It seems like the cleanest solution. if I run emerge -uDN (etc) world it just keeps pulling X and other crap I removed, and since 80% of what's on the machine it unneeded, a fresh start wouldn't hurt. if anyone is interested, I'll post an update on how my install went once it's back up. -- Samir On 7/17/07, Abraham Marín Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht escribió: On 7/16/07, Samir Faci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, So, I have a gentoo install that's slowly evolved over the past 3 years or so years. It's now so cluttered with packages, it's becoming ridiculous, especially for a headless server. What I'd like to do is be able to remove all KDE/Gnome/X/gtk/qt/...etc out of the machine and not have it break the machine completely. Any suggestion on how to do go about this? At this stage, I'd like the server to have the basic system build, LAMP, and Postfix. If I start removing packages, then revdep complains about dependencies and ends pulling back the packages I had removed, same thing with world. I globally removed all the X related flags I can think of. Also, in the process of switching to a hardened profile, which is one reason why I wanted to clean up the install. Thanks again, Any help would be appreciated. -- Samir Hi Samir, You'll probably get some answers more detailed than mine but fundamentally it goes something like this: 1) First do and emerge -DuN world and make sure everything is up to date. 2) By hand then emerge -C everything (for instance) with gnome or kde in the package name. 3) Next do an emerge --depclean and let portage remove packages that were needed for gnome or kde but not required now 4) Do a revdep-rebuild and see what it wants to pull in. If it's trying to pull in something you don't think is necessary then do an emerge -pe --tree and look at why it's getting pulled in. Either remove what's causing it to get rebuilt or let it get pulled back in. At this point it's lather and repeat if necessary. I've done this a couple of times. It' works but be careful that you don't reboot during the process as something might be gone that's still necessary. Hope this helps, Mark I'd proceed similar to this, but changing order: 1) Edit /var/lib/portage/world and unlist every unwanted package. 2) Edit /etc/make.conf and explicitly unset every use tag related to packages you don't want in your system. 3) run emerge --update --deep --newuse --ask world 4) run emerge --depclean --ask 5) run revdep-rebuild If you update your system before removing unwanted packages from world file you'll waste time updating packages that will be uninstalled afterwards (and big packages, must be said). This way you'll update only what you'll keep. Needless to say, it's always a good idea to back-up your system before proceeding. HTH, Abraham -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup
Hi all, So, I have a gentoo install that's slowly evolved over the past 3 years or so years. It's now so cluttered with packages, it's becoming ridiculous, especially for a headless server. What I'd like to do is be able to remove all KDE/Gnome/X/gtk/qt/...etc out of the machine and not have it break the machine completely. Any suggestion on how to do go about this? At this stage, I'd like the server to have the basic system build, LAMP, and Postfix. If I start removing packages, then revdep complains about dependencies and ends pulling back the packages I had removed, same thing with world. I globally removed all the X related flags I can think of. Also, in the process of switching to a hardened profile, which is one reason why I wanted to clean up the install. Thanks again, Any help would be appreciated. -- Samir
Re: [gentoo-user] Maya
Well, when I said commercial version, I meant the off the shelf product, which you do have to buy. You can probably try their demo version and see how you like it. I haven't played with their free version (assuming they have a linux version of it). -- Samir On 3/27/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2007 04:13, Samir Faci wrote: As far as I know the learning edition isn't available for linux, I might be wrong. They do have their commercial version which works great on linux. Unlike other company that came out with linux versions which turned out to be re-wrap of their 1.0 release of their software from 10 years ago written for linux, the Maya software works really well, and it seems very feature rich. (Not that I can make heads or tails of half the features it has). Thanks Samir, Assuming you don't have to buy it (or do you?) do you need to register it - how? -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] Flourish Conference Reminder
I just wanted to remind everyone that the Chicago Flourish Conference is coming up this weekend. Friday, April 6th and Saturday April 7th. If you are planning on attending be sure to mark you calendars and be sure to register on the website. The main website should have information on how to get to the conference, if you have any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me. Registration opens at 8 am, the presentations will be begin at 10 am on both Friday and Saturday. Don't forget to check out the hack-a-thon and come join us after the even at IBM's HQ for the post-flourish social. -- Samir Faci UIC LUG President Blog extract from main website -- Question to the world of Free and Open Source Software: What are my prospects when I graduate? As many of you know by now, for the last few months here at UIC*, we - the ACM* and g/LUG*,- have been eagerly working to put together a conference to discus FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) as an engine of innovation. The Flourish Conf. will take place next 6-7 of April at the University of Illinois at Chicago. I am a self confessed gnu/Linux user, I love gnu/Linux, free software and even open source - sorry RMS!. I am also a CS student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and curiously enough, even though most of our curricula is done in Unix - we even have 2 RedHat labs here, - it appears as if none of the big players within FLOSS ever come to hire at UIC. Why is that Microsoft comes here semester after semester snatching some of the most brilliant students on campus? Yet, I have yet to see FLOSS big players to come out here looking for people. These has made me wonder: Is there a professional future in FLOSS? ... and I know I'm not alone in my wonders. To answer these questions, we have invited quite a few of really smart people from different organizations: Google, IBM, Red Hat, and the FSF, and we are going to have a a chance to hear about the opportunities that FLOSS has to offer for our future. We will have two panels, a talk on GPL v3, a talk on Google's contribution and use of FLOSS, among many other really interesting talks, etc. We have also put together a series of technical talks on FLOSS related technologies and topics, and a couple other really interesting activities to give attendees a chance to meet and to be met: Friday's Social mixer, and Saturday's Hack-a-Thon. This is not only going to be a great time for students around Chicago, this is going to be a great chance for community members, and companies to come together and explore how FLOSS is shaping up our future! Come and join us! Roberto C. Serrano g/LUG @ UIC vice-president
Re: [gentoo-user] Maya
As far as I know the learning edition isn't available for linux, I might be wrong. They do have their commercial version which works great on linux. Unlike other company that came out with linux versions which turned out to be re-wrap of their 1.0 release of their software from 10 years ago written for linux, the Maya software works really well, and it seems very feature rich. (Not that I can make heads or tails of half the features it has). Hope that helped. -- Samir On 3/26/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007 18:57, Neil Walker wrote: Mick wrote: This may be a silly question, but I am trying to understand if Maya is free for Linux - despite it being a commercial product. The License page says that we should go to http://www.aliaswavefront.com/spar to register, but the link is dead. What do you know about this package and the license thing? Hmm. Autodesk Maya Learning (an old version) is free - but only available for Windows and Mac OSX AFAIK. Never heard of a Linux version - let alone Gentoo. Thanks Neil, === # eix maya * media-gfx/maya Available versions: (6.5) ~6.5 Homepage: http://www.alias.com/eng/products-services/maya/index.shtml Description: Alias Wavefront's Maya. Commercial modeling and animation package. == -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] Beryl
I'm not sure if I'm the only one that this happened to, but I was just curious to see if anyone else experienced this. I have Beryl working fine, and it works for a good while.. hot corners, hot keys.. and all the affects that I care about work. Then after a while, the hot corners stop working.. but the Functions keys (F8/F9) at least in my config works fine to do exactly the same behavior that the hot corners would have done. If I switch from beryl to kwin then back to beryl. It starts working again. Has anyone experienced similar behavior? -- Samir
Re: [gentoo-user] Beryl
I could see the hotkey conflicts, but as far as I know only beryl and compiz ever used hot corners (and I never installed Compiz). *shrug* oh well, overall it still makes me productive then not using it so I guess I'll bear with it. At least I know how to fix it, even if it is tedious. -- Samir On 3/20/07, Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Samir, that is a very weird glitch, but we all experience instabilities when using beryl. I have a similar experience: In KDE control center, I configured Lock Session with the Win+F6 keys; sometimes, Beryl interprets this key as Show Desktop because it is previously configured so, but otherwise it is Lock Session. It is possible that there are similar conflictive assignments to the hot corners of your screen. Another instability consists that sometimes Emerald dies for no reason. -- Fabio A. Correa D. Physics Dept, Universidad Nacional, Bogota, Colombia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] My webpage and OpenPGP key at http://facorread.150m.com My alexandria.cc address is not available anymore. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on raid install
Well, wait a second mdadm not emerging has nothing to do with your configuration, it should emerge without you even having a config setup. I might be wrong, but isn't the error hinting at an issue finding the compiler? -- Samir On 3/14/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm doing a fresh 2006.1 install on a RAID 1. I'm at the end of the install, and I'm having problems merging mdadm: Source unpacked. Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/mdadm-2.6.1/work/mdadm-2.6.1 ... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Wall -march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -DSendmail=\/usr/sbin/sendmail -t\ -DCONFFILE=\/etc/mdadm.conf\ -DCONFFILE2=\/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf\ -c -o mdadm.o mdadm.c /bin/sh: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found make: *** [mdadm.o] Error 127 !!! ERROR: sys-fs/mdadm-2.6.1 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile mdadm-2.6.1.ebuild, line 29: Called die So, I start checking things, and first one is mdadm.conf: # cat /etc/mdadm.conf ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=8cee4c4f:4d4c24bd:cc5bee91:c83b42b5 ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=8b9f4d0c:69fa806c:2202b13b:91b36928 but when I do a mdadm -detail --scan I get next. # mdadm --detail --scan mdadm: Unknown keyword mdadm mdadm: Unknown keyword mdadm ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=8cee4c4f:4d4c24bd:cc5bee91:c83b42b5 ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=8b9f4d0c:69fa806c:2202b13b:91b36928 Which is not very nice... From the chrrot env I see this: # cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] [raid0] [raid5] [raid4] md2 : active raid1 hdb2[1] hda2[0] 87883456 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 hdb1[1] hda1[0] 29302464 blocks [2/2] [UU] And I think it's correct, but as I'm newbie with RAIDS, I don't know what else I can look... Coul someone help me with this install? PS: My swap is out of the raid Cheers, Arnau -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] net.eth0 startup
I have weird behavior with my net.eth0 service. I don't want it to start up by default, so I did the usual rc-update del net.eth0 default and rc-update del net.eth0 it's not listed as a startup service, but still insists on starting up when my computer starts up. Does anyone know if something changed in how gentoo handles interfaces? -- Samir
[gentoo-user] Flourish Conference Chicago
If this is too off-topic for your mailing list, please disregard and let me know so I won't send any more postings. --- Hello everyone, For those who aren't aware, Flourish is a conference being hosted at UIC that will be focusing on Free and Open Source software. I've included the original Open Invite link at the bottom of my email, and if you have an interest please visit the website for more info. ( http://www.flourishconf.com). The event will be free for anyone to attend (who pre-registers). For anyone who doesn't register there will be a $10 fee. Also, IF (big if) we do get t-shirts for the event, those who register get complimentary t-shirts, those who don't will be able to purchase one if we have any left over. If you're planning to attend, please register at: http://www.flourishconf.com/registration.php If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. OpenLetter: http://www.flourishconf.com/docs/ShortOpenInvite.pdf -- Regards Samir Faci
Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...
I've followed and used this setup a few times. I actually just got it up and running a few minutes ago. I did ignore most of the info about DCC and razor etc... and I agree with you, it isn't the best documentation. But I always thought postfix was the better free mailserv out there.. (at least from my experience) and spam and virus filtering, especially when free is really slick. All spams are sent to an email account. where I run sa-learn on it. It's pretty slick. As to your problem at hand, I'm not sure what's going on. Check your /etc/hosts or dns server and make sure your host has a valid entry. That's about all I can think of right now. Samir On 15 Jan 2006, at 06:48, William Kenworthy wrote: On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 03:08 +, Stroller wrote: Hi there, I emerged SpamAssasin on a mailserver the other day, added the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mailfilter-guide.xml The reason I avoided using this for some time was that I feel it doesn't EXPLAIN things very well. I had initially ignored that guide and set up Spamassassin as described in http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ IntegratedSpamdInPostfix - I didn't like the idea of having another instance of Postfix listening on port 10025 but after rereading I found it recommended to use the method described in the Gentoo Mailfilter Guide you linked to. So I have followed that guide all the way through, used netcat to confirm that Amavisd Postfix are listening on ports 10024 10025 respectively, and sent a mail through the system: Jan 16 02:51:35 baby postfix/pickup[7221]: 95F4636363: uid=1000 from=stroller Jan 16 02:51:35 baby postfix/cleanup[7255]: 95F4636363: message- id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 16 02:51:35 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 95F4636363: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1796, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/smtpd[7261]: connect from localhost [127.0.0.1] Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/smtpd[7261]: 2875136369: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/cleanup[7255]: 2875136369: message- id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 2875136369: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2424, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 16 02:51:39 baby amavis[7144]: (07144-01) Passed CLEAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mail_id: Xq9Fg6PsmuKf, Hits: 2.777, 3594 ms Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/smtpd[7261]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/smtp[7257]: 95F4636363: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=info, relay=127.0.0.1 [127.0.0.1], delay=4, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=07144-01, from MTA ([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 Ok: queued as 2875136369) Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 95F4636363: removed Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/smtp[7262]: 2875136369: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced (mail for mail.validdomain.co.uk loops back to myself) Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/cleanup[7255]: 63F853636A: message- id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 63F853636A: from=, size=4128, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 2875136369: removed Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/smtp[7262]: 63F853636A: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced (mail for mail.validdomain.co.uk loops back to myself) Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 63F853636A: removed Jan 16 02:52:18 baby sudo: stroller : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/ stroller ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/postqueue -p Can anyone help explain the status=bounced (mail for mail.validdomain.co.uk loops back to myself error message, please? Surely I have missed something obvious in following the instructions which as caused this. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Key Binding
Thanks. That worked great. Samir On Monday 02 January 2006 12:23, safaci wrote: This isn't a big deal..but it is a real nuissance. In firefox I can use Ctrl+Tab to cycle through all the tabes I have open in a particular window... Control Panel: - Regional Accessibility - [Keyboard Shortcuts] [ Shortcut Schemes ] [Global Shortcuts] System Navigation Walk Through Desktop List --- here Samir Chris White Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; Jusqu'au 25 décembre, participez au grand jeu du Calendrier de l'Avent et gagnez tous les jours de nombreux lots, + de 300 cadeaux en jeu ! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources
Myk Taylor wrote: is there an advantage to doing that as opposed to rm -fr /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-r10 (or whatever the dir is called)? Just curious, I always just used the rm -fr Samir emerge -C gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 or emerge -C =gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 -C is short for --unmerge --myk C. Beamer wrote: I would like to remove the oldest one - specifically linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
Nick Rout wrote: I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5. I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is 3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later. S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could ask here if there is an easier way. Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-) Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today). NRR assuming you've done an emerge --sync with the past.. (what is month or so since kde 3.5 was unmasked? ) just run emerge -u kde (u for upgrade or heck even committing the -u, it still should work fine.) Samir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
