Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:16:12PM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote
 Hi,
 
 the following happens some minutes before:
 I was searching on youtube for some reviews...
 and suddenly BOOM: Server not found: Unknow host
 
 I restarted firefox...which did not help.
 
 I did a ping  traceroute to www.youtube.com from
 the commandline...same results...
 
 Wireshark shows the DNS query to my DSL modem...
 and the answer was that from above.
 
 I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...
 
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Any other access was working the whole time.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?
 Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?

  I've seen similar problems with Youtube.  Switching the DNS servers in
/etc/resolv.conf seems to fix the problem every time.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-12 Thread wabenbau
Am Dienstag, 10.03.2015 um 19:14
schrieb J.  Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org:

 On 10 March 2015 19:16:12 CET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the following happens some minutes before:
 I was searching on youtube for some reviews...
 and suddenly BOOM: Server not found: Unknow host
 
 I restarted firefox...which did not help.
 
 I did a ping  traceroute to www.youtube.com from
 the commandline...same results...
 
 Wireshark shows the DNS query to my DSL modem...
 and the answer was that from above.
 
 I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...
 
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Any other access was working the whole time.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?
 Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?
 
 Best regards,
 mcc
 
 Most modems and routers have really bad DNS proxies. I tend to either
 run my own or use Googles DNS: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 

I don't like the idea that google is getting all information about my
DNS queries. ;-) 

I usually prefer the DNS servers from my ISP as forwarding servers for
my router (which has a proper working DNS proxy). These DNS servers are
just a few hops away and therefore responding very fast.

--
Regards
wabe



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread wabenbau
Am Dienstag, 10.03.2015 um 18:10
schrieb Justin Findlay jfind...@gmail.com:

 On 03/10/2015 01:35 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
  Most modems and routers have really bad DNS proxies. I tend to
  either run my own or use Googles DNS: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 
  
  I don't like the idea that google is getting all information about
  my DNS queries. ;-) 
 
 If you need a temporary public resolver and you don't want to send
 more info to google, you can use these public resolvers from Level 3:
 
 4.2.2.1
 4.2.2.2
 4.2.2.3
 4.2.2.4
 
 You should normally use and know the DNS servers provided by the most
 local networks you're in.  If any of these are untrustworthy or
 problematic, 4.2.2.2 should work well enough to get online to sort it
 out.
 
 Here is an interesting intro to the subject (be sure to also read the
 comments):
 
 http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110407_top_public_dns_resolvers_compared/
 
 
 Justin

THX for the info. I will take a look at it.

--
Regards
wabe



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 10 March 2015 19:16:12 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...
 
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Any other access was working the whole time.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?
 Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?

I think DSL modems must run Windows - they seem to need rebooting every 
now and then. I had to do so last week when various lookups failed, or 
needed several attempts.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread Adam Carter
The second argument to both host and nslookup, specifies the server to use
for the lookup. So, you can compare the results of the DNS server specified
in /etc/resolv.conf, with others like those mentioned above, eg
host youtube.com 8.8.8.8
or
nslookup youtube.com 4.2.2.4

However, youtube.com will no doubt be using global server load balancing,
which means the DNS response will be based on the source IP address of the
DNS request, so you can be directed to the closest youtube.com server(s).

So, since you cant be sure the DNS results will be consistent across DNS
servers, you can't use that to determine if you're being MITM'd. Mind you I
don't think a non-targetted MITM would bother with someone's youtube
traffic, but if your concerned about that just connect to youtube with
https, so the certificate can be verified.


Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread Stroller

On Tue, 10 March 2015, at 6:16 pm, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 ...
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?

I think it's far more likely the router ran out of memory, a process hung or 
something. 

Perhaps other sites worked because they were cached.

There's no way to debug it now, and replies can only be speculation.

If it becomes a regular problem, I suggest you install OpenWRT, which will give 
you the tools you need for debugging it.

Stroller.






[gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-10 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi,

the following happens some minutes before:
I was searching on youtube for some reviews...
and suddenly BOOM: Server not found: Unknow host

I restarted firefox...which did not help.

I did a ping  traceroute to www.youtube.com from
the commandline...same results...

Wireshark shows the DNS query to my DSL modem...
and the answer was that from above.

I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...

The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.

Any other access was working the whole time.

Was my DSL modem hacked?
Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?

Best regards,
mcc




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-10 Thread wabenbau
Am Dienstag, 10.03.2015 um 19:16
schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:

 Hi,
 
 the following happens some minutes before:
 I was searching on youtube for some reviews...
 and suddenly BOOM: Server not found: Unknow host
 
 I restarted firefox...which did not help.
 
 I did a ping  traceroute to www.youtube.com from
 the commandline...same results...
 
 Wireshark shows the DNS query to my DSL modem...
 and the answer was that from above.
 
 I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...
 
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Any other access was working the whole time.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?
 Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?

I'm using youtube only occasionally and last use was some days ago, so
I don't know if there was something unusual today.

When I do a nslookup www.youtube.com, I get a whole bunch of IP
addresses. Maybe the DNS implementation on your DSL modem only cache
the first one. If this IP then is not reachable for some reason, it
would lead to an Unknow Host Error till the TTL of the cached entry is
reached and the modem is doing the next lookup.

But that's just a thought. Maybe your modem really was hacked.

--
Regards
wabe



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-10 Thread bitlord
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:16:12 +0100
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 the following happens some minutes before:
 I was searching on youtube for some reviews...
 and suddenly BOOM: Server not found: Unknow host
 
 I restarted firefox...which did not help.
 
 I did a ping  traceroute to www.youtube.com from
 the commandline...same results...
 
 Wireshark shows the DNS query to my DSL modem...
 and the answer was that from above.
 
 I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...
 
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Any other access was working the whole time.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?
 Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?
 
 Best regards,
 mcc
 
 

Today everyone can make a dsl router/modem, and ISPs when they
give you equipment they want it to be cheap. I saw exactly the same
problem on cheap dsl routers, I don't have enough knowledge to debug
it, or to be sure if it is safe or not, it worked for months with no
issues, no reboots ..., one day it stopped working/resolving hosts, and
its dhcp server config doesn't allow forwarding of DNS servers from
WAN configuration, or manually setting one which will be given to the
dhcp clients, so there are two ways, it can work as a proxy (send
its own IP as DNS server to clients), or it doesn't provide DNS, so you
need manually to configure each client.
If you restart the router, it works sometimes for few hours, sometimes
few days, but it will fail again randomly. 
The only worrying thing is that it worked for months without an issue.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 10 March 2015 19:16:12 CET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,

the following happens some minutes before:
I was searching on youtube for some reviews...
and suddenly BOOM: Server not found: Unknow host

I restarted firefox...which did not help.

I did a ping  traceroute to www.youtube.com from
the commandline...same results...

Wireshark shows the DNS query to my DSL modem...
and the answer was that from above.

I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...

The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.

Any other access was working the whole time.

Was my DSL modem hacked?
Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?

Best regards,
mcc

Most modems and routers have really bad DNS proxies. I tend to either run my 
own or use Googles DNS:
8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 

--
Joost 
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-10 Thread Justin Findlay
On 03/10/2015 01:35 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
 Most modems and routers have really bad DNS proxies. I tend to either
 run my own or use Googles DNS: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 
 
 I don't like the idea that google is getting all information about my
 DNS queries. ;-) 

If you need a temporary public resolver and you don't want to send more
info to google, you can use these public resolvers from Level 3:

4.2.2.1
4.2.2.2
4.2.2.3
4.2.2.4

You should normally use and know the DNS servers provided by the most
local networks you're in.  If any of these are untrustworthy or
problematic, 4.2.2.2 should work well enough to get online to sort it out.

Here is an interesting intro to the subject (be sure to also read the
comments):

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110407_top_public_dns_resolvers_compared/


Justin