[gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop

2007-12-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-12-12, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect
> to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional
> broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require
> Vista (uck).

 I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well
 but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that
 here).
>>>
>>> What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom?
>> 
>> That question doesn't really make any sense.  It's like asking
>> what the quality of the sound is with an Ethernet card.
>
> what you really want to know is how fast does it tune, does it
> do hardware mpeg encoding, does the linux driver support
> signal strength etc.  The quality of the UI is a question for
> windows users, as you usually use what they provide, but with
> linux you use what you want :)

Actually I guess the picture quality would be a valid question
for an NTSC tuner.  I had missed the fact that the OP was
looking for something that did both NTSC and ATSC (for which
the picture quality question doesn't really apply).  

For ATSC picture quality is going to be the same for all
tuners. The question is how well the tuner and demodulator can
handle multipath and low signal strenth.  With ATSC you've
pretty much either got a picture or you don't.

All USB NTSC tuners are going to to hardware video encoding.
USB just doesn't have enough bandwidth to send uncompressed raw
video (that would require real, sustained usable throughput in
excess of 200Mb/s).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop

2007-12-12 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 21:25 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2007-12-12, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >>> There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect
> >>> to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional
> >>> broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require
> >>> Vista (uck).
> >>
> >> I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well
> >> but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that
> >> here).
> >
> > What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom?
> 
> That question doesn't really make any sense.  It's like asking
> what the quality of the sound is with an Ethernet card.

what you really want to know is how fast does it tune, does it do
hardware mpeg encoding, does the linux driver support signal strength
etc.  The quality of the UI is a question for windows users, as you
usually use what they provide, but with linux you use what you want :)

cya,
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[gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop

2007-12-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-12-12, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect
>>> to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional
>>> broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require
>>> Vista (uck).
>>
>> I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well
>> but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that
>> here).
>
> What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom?

That question doesn't really make any sense.  It's like asking
what the quality of the sound is with an Ethernet card.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop

2007-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:49:46 + (UTC), James wrote:

> Neil Bothwick  digimed.co.uk> writes:
> 
> 
> > > There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to
> > > a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts.
> > > The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck).
> 
> > I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I
> > didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here).
> 
> 
> Hello Neil,
> 
> Check this out (hdtv):
> 
> 
> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm
> 
> It sure be nice to find  a similar device for (gentoo) linux

According to http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php/Em2880#Devices it appears
this device is supported by a Linux driver.


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[gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop

2007-12-12 Thread James
Neil Bothwick  digimed.co.uk> writes:


> > There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to
> > a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts.
> > The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck).

> I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I
> didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here).


Hello Neil,

Check this out (hdtv):


http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm

It sure be nice to find  a similar device for (gentoo) linux


James

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