Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge question: What's with the @?
2009/1/13 Paul Hartman > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Chris Lieb wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Nick Cunningham wrote: > >> > >> > >> 2009/1/13 Chris Lieb mailto:chris.l...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> I've noticed lately on the ML that people have been talking about > using > >> package sets, such as @world and @installed. I figured it was a > part of > >> portage 2.1.6* since using @world with 2.1.4* would result in an > error > >> message about an invalid package atom. However, after upgrading to > >> portage 2.1.6.4, I still get the same error when doing something > like > >> 'emerge -up @world'. > >> > >> What are these package sets? What is the difference between 'emerge > -up > >> world' and 'emerge -up @world'? Why don't these package sets ever > work > >> for me? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> A set is basically just group of packages, you can either define you own > >> using /etc/portage/ or using gentoo provided ones like @world and > >> @system (which will replace the current emerge system/world usage > >> eventually), aswell as useful sets such as @live-rebuild (any package > >> that uses a cvs/svn/git eclass, so basically any - ebuild) and > >> @module-rebuild which is handy for rebuilding kernel modules. Also id > >> imagine meta-packages will eventually move over to sets as it makes > >> rebuilding everything or removing it much easier, currently theres only > >> kde4 that makes large usage of sets but id imagine once portage 2.20 > >> goes stable we'l see great set adoption. > >> An easy way to see what sets are available is to use the emerge > >> --list-sets command. > >> > >> -Nick > > > > Thanks for the info. The @module-rebuild should come in handy. Any > > idea on when we'll see 2.2* hit stable? > > > > Thanks again, > > Chris > > "When it's ready" I guess is the standard answer there. :) it's masked > in ~arch as well, but you can simply unmask it if you want to use it. > That's what I did. I have these sets available in my system currently: > >downgrade >installed >live-rebuild >module-rebuild >preserved-rebuild >security >system >unavailable >world > > @live-rebuild is especially handy to rebuild live cvs/svn/etc ebuilds > (that - stuff) > > Paul > > Same, here, ive been a happy user of portage 2.2 for a long time now and im very happy with it and loving the ability to use sets. As with all programs in ~ARCH (and especially as its also masked and under active development) there may be occassional bug or other random error, but if your comfortable working around them and/or reporting them then portage 2.2 is definately worth a try :) - Nick
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge question: What's with the @?
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Chris Lieb wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Nick Cunningham wrote: >> >> >> 2009/1/13 Chris Lieb mailto:chris.l...@gmail.com>> >> >> I've noticed lately on the ML that people have been talking about using >> package sets, such as @world and @installed. I figured it was a part of >> portage 2.1.6* since using @world with 2.1.4* would result in an error >> message about an invalid package atom. However, after upgrading to >> portage 2.1.6.4, I still get the same error when doing something like >> 'emerge -up @world'. >> >> What are these package sets? What is the difference between 'emerge -up >> world' and 'emerge -up @world'? Why don't these package sets ever work >> for me? >> >> Thanks, >> Chris >> >> >> A set is basically just group of packages, you can either define you own >> using /etc/portage/ or using gentoo provided ones like @world and >> @system (which will replace the current emerge system/world usage >> eventually), aswell as useful sets such as @live-rebuild (any package >> that uses a cvs/svn/git eclass, so basically any - ebuild) and >> @module-rebuild which is handy for rebuilding kernel modules. Also id >> imagine meta-packages will eventually move over to sets as it makes >> rebuilding everything or removing it much easier, currently theres only >> kde4 that makes large usage of sets but id imagine once portage 2.20 >> goes stable we'l see great set adoption. >> An easy way to see what sets are available is to use the emerge >> --list-sets command. >> >> -Nick > > Thanks for the info. The @module-rebuild should come in handy. Any > idea on when we'll see 2.2* hit stable? > > Thanks again, > Chris "When it's ready" I guess is the standard answer there. :) it's masked in ~arch as well, but you can simply unmask it if you want to use it. That's what I did. I have these sets available in my system currently: downgrade installed live-rebuild module-rebuild preserved-rebuild security system unavailable world @live-rebuild is especially handy to rebuild live cvs/svn/etc ebuilds (that - stuff) Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge question: What's with the @?
2009/1/13 Chris Lieb > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Nick Cunningham wrote: > > > > > > 2009/1/13 Chris Lieb mailto:chris.l...@gmail.com > >> > > > > I've noticed lately on the ML that people have been talking about > using > > package sets, such as @world and @installed. I figured it was a part > of > > portage 2.1.6* since using @world with 2.1.4* would result in an > error > > message about an invalid package atom. However, after upgrading to > > portage 2.1.6.4, I still get the same error when doing something like > > 'emerge -up @world'. > > > > What are these package sets? What is the difference between 'emerge > -up > > world' and 'emerge -up @world'? Why don't these package sets ever > work > > for me? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > > A set is basically just group of packages, you can either define you own > > using /etc/portage/ or using gentoo provided ones like @world and > > @system (which will replace the current emerge system/world usage > > eventually), aswell as useful sets such as @live-rebuild (any package > > that uses a cvs/svn/git eclass, so basically any - ebuild) and > > @module-rebuild which is handy for rebuilding kernel modules. Also id > > imagine meta-packages will eventually move over to sets as it makes > > rebuilding everything or removing it much easier, currently theres only > > kde4 that makes large usage of sets but id imagine once portage 2.20 > > goes stable we'l see great set adoption. > > An easy way to see what sets are available is to use the emerge > > --list-sets command. > > > > -Nick > > Thanks for the info. The @module-rebuild should come in handy. Any > idea on when we'll see 2.2* hit stable? > > Thanks again, > Chris > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJJbO1pAAoJEJWxx7fgsD+CClQH/iJudCvbWQmx5IT/CbGL7Rl2 > N5TbYtTWhwGgd4xrhPJvlT3MvU4I207+W40lqmtnftaLQaPu+L4nzDervqsh3dlW > GPnq1u8v0ASksip/4ZIeC1jMPMTmjcCFagXPiZoouxvZd9YI83xxkLReZbmcniap > 8BFGgFVn4M3iGWpma4h+ceYOECGjOxdQTDI5kcH31PHVBVzinYgWj6gm9SbRLEhf > 7H0rS00eDSPndeE6192MBR4BY+gx+FbkmlwxTc7UzGVnCyAZCGN3YC+Sr2s0JwGX > VGtNV+mAcuk3byS6V2d0hxvzcMuHn3o6VrgspvDF6wda5wnwjjAjkW023baS3RU= > =QWDy > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > Id imagine it will be a while yet, there are still a few problems with sets and other new features that are being ironed out still, currently the only way to get 2.2 is to unmask it. The tracker bug for portage 2.2 problems is: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210077 -Nick
[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge question: What's with the @?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Cunningham wrote: > > > 2009/1/13 Chris Lieb mailto:chris.l...@gmail.com>> > > I've noticed lately on the ML that people have been talking about using > package sets, such as @world and @installed. I figured it was a part of > portage 2.1.6* since using @world with 2.1.4* would result in an error > message about an invalid package atom. However, after upgrading to > portage 2.1.6.4, I still get the same error when doing something like > 'emerge -up @world'. > > What are these package sets? What is the difference between 'emerge -up > world' and 'emerge -up @world'? Why don't these package sets ever work > for me? > > Thanks, > Chris > > > A set is basically just group of packages, you can either define you own > using /etc/portage/ or using gentoo provided ones like @world and > @system (which will replace the current emerge system/world usage > eventually), aswell as useful sets such as @live-rebuild (any package > that uses a cvs/svn/git eclass, so basically any - ebuild) and > @module-rebuild which is handy for rebuilding kernel modules. Also id > imagine meta-packages will eventually move over to sets as it makes > rebuilding everything or removing it much easier, currently theres only > kde4 that makes large usage of sets but id imagine once portage 2.20 > goes stable we'l see great set adoption. > An easy way to see what sets are available is to use the emerge > --list-sets command. > > -Nick Thanks for the info. The @module-rebuild should come in handy. Any idea on when we'll see 2.2* hit stable? Thanks again, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJJbO1pAAoJEJWxx7fgsD+CClQH/iJudCvbWQmx5IT/CbGL7Rl2 N5TbYtTWhwGgd4xrhPJvlT3MvU4I207+W40lqmtnftaLQaPu+L4nzDervqsh3dlW GPnq1u8v0ASksip/4ZIeC1jMPMTmjcCFagXPiZoouxvZd9YI83xxkLReZbmcniap 8BFGgFVn4M3iGWpma4h+ceYOECGjOxdQTDI5kcH31PHVBVzinYgWj6gm9SbRLEhf 7H0rS00eDSPndeE6192MBR4BY+gx+FbkmlwxTc7UzGVnCyAZCGN3YC+Sr2s0JwGX VGtNV+mAcuk3byS6V2d0hxvzcMuHn3o6VrgspvDF6wda5wnwjjAjkW023baS3RU= =QWDy -END PGP SIGNATURE-