[gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?

2008-10-31 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Justin wrote:

James Homuth schrieb:

There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or versions
of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might want to take an
active interest in. However, to avoid sending my boxes into a tailspin, I'm
staying away from installing the still in development versions. What I'd
like to know though is if there's some means of knowing if/when, as an
example, a newer version of Portage is supposed to be considered stable. If
not then I can always keep an eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was
mostly just curiosity on my part. Thanks either way.

James


  

Quite easy,

emerge --sync
emerge -up world system,

then you know whats gone stable with higher versions.


Or, to also cover packages not in world/system, you can do:

emerge -p1u `qlist -IC`

(Don't omit the 1 from the options or you'll mess up your world file 
with packages that are purely dependencies.)


I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default, actually. 
 Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made.  If the 
package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?

2008-10-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:37:58 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default,
 actually. Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made.
 If the package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update.

If it's not is world, or a dependency of a world package, it's not needed
and --depclean will catch it.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

IBM - I Blame Microsoft


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[gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?

2008-10-31 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:37:58 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default,
actually. Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made.
If the package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update.


If it's not is world, or a dependency of a world package, it's not needed
and --depclean will catch it.


No, it will not :P  Don't ask me why, because I don't know.  I only know 
from experience that --depclean does not catch some packages that get 
updated with emerge -1u `qlist -IC` (and don't get updated with 
emerge -uD world system).





RE: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?

2008-10-31 Thread James Homuth
 

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Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?

Justin wrote:
 James Homuth schrieb:
 There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or 
 versions of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might 
 want to take an active interest in. However, to avoid sending my 
 boxes into a tailspin, I'm staying away from installing the still in 
 development versions. What I'd like to know though is if there's some 
 means of knowing if/when, as an example, a newer version of Portage 
 is supposed to be considered stable. If not then I can always keep an 
 eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was mostly just curiosity on my
part. Thanks either way.

 James


   
 Quite easy,
 
 emerge --sync
 emerge -up world system,
 
 then you know whats gone stable with higher versions.

Or, to also cover packages not in world/system, you can do:

emerge -p1u `qlist -IC`

(Don't omit the 1 from the options or you'll mess up your world file with
packages that are purely dependencies.)

I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default, actually. 
  Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made.  If the
package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update.


That'll teach me to just read the Gentoo documentation. I figured emerge
--update --deep world covered system, too.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?

2008-10-31 Thread Dale
James Homuth wrote:


 That'll teach me to just read the Gentoo documentation. I figured emerge
 --update --deep world covered system, too.



   

As far as what I was told on -dev, it still does.  If you use the
@system or @world, then that is a different thing.  I'm assuming what I
was told still holds true. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P.S.  Yea, I'm back.  I had a reaction to some meds and they dang near
killed me.  Spent about a week in the hospital wondering what that light
was.  o_O 





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?

2008-10-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:11:20 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

  If it's not is world, or a dependency of a world package, it's not
  needed and --depclean will catch it.  
 
 No, it will not :P  Don't ask me why, because I don't know.  I only
 know from experience that --depclean does not catch some packages that
 get updated with emerge -1u `qlist -IC` (and don't get updated with 
 emerge -uD world system).

Possibly build time dependencies, which aren't updated unless you use
--with-bdeps y.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

There's too much blood in my caffeine system.


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