[gentoo-user] Re: problems with clipboard separation

2007-11-15 Thread Miernik
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> If so, then it seems that for me mouse-selection and Ctrl-c write into
> the same buffer. Can anyone give me a hint, where to look for the
> possibility to change this behaviour?

Very interesting, my Gentoo machine is currently X-less so I can't test
it, but I'd like such behaviour on my Debian machine, where clipboards
are separate, but I'd like them to be common. Preferably also common
with GNU screen clipboard (/tmp/screen-exchange). Any ideas how to do
it?

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[gentoo-user] Re: problems with clipboard separation

2007-11-15 Thread Miernik
Bryan Whitehead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is the default behavior of X. Highlighting IS copying to the
> clipboard. Also, middle-click (or whatever is mapped to your 3rd mouse
> button) is paste. This is just how X works. Getting around this is a
> hack in itself.

No, read this: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problems with clipboard separation

2007-11-16 Thread hkml

Miernik wrote:

No, read this: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html

Thanks for the link: now I know that my ideas of how copying works are 
close to reality. I will continue looking for a solution. If I find 
something, I will post it here.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problems with clipboard separation

2007-11-16 Thread hkml

Bryan Whitehead wrote:

"X11 programs have a second way of copying and pasting text", so the
first method is not a hack (sorry), however, many X11 applications do
not bother with the first method. For example, xterm doesn't have an
"edit", "copy", or "paste" on all flavors of unix - try using them in
dtterm on Solaris and you'll see how useless the "first method" is
when you can't cut/paste consistently between different programs
(cut/copy some text, then try to paste it into gnome/kde/gtk/qt
applications).

xchat is typical software that doesn't do the "edit" menu.
http://xchat.org/faq/#q24 (nor does it provide keyboard mapping for
cut/copy/paste - your WM or OS must do that).

The standards doc might be anal about what is "first" and "second",
but in the real world the "second way" is what seems to be universal.
I'm using unix operating systems for a long time now and I feel pretty 
comfortable with using left-mouse and middle-click to select and copy.


Nevertheless working with Eclipse (under Linux) I got used to 'select 
source - Ctrl-c - select destination - Ctrl-v' (overwrite destination 
with source). This worked fine for me e.g. in SuSE 9.x and SuSE 10.x and 
I would like to know, why I can't work like this on my shiny favourite 
Linux OS (that is: Gentoo).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problems with clipboard separation

2007-11-16 Thread Bryan Whitehead
"X11 programs have a second way of copying and pasting text", so the
first method is not a hack (sorry), however, many X11 applications do
not bother with the first method. For example, xterm doesn't have an
"edit", "copy", or "paste" on all flavors of unix - try using them in
dtterm on Solaris and you'll see how useless the "first method" is
when you can't cut/paste consistently between different programs
(cut/copy some text, then try to paste it into gnome/kde/gtk/qt
applications).

xchat is typical software that doesn't do the "edit" menu.
http://xchat.org/faq/#q24 (nor does it provide keyboard mapping for
cut/copy/paste - your WM or OS must do that).

The standards doc might be anal about what is "first" and "second",
but in the real world the "second way" is what seems to be universal.

On Nov 15, 2007 10:16 PM, Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bryan Whitehead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is the default behavior of X. Highlighting IS copying to the
> > clipboard. Also, middle-click (or whatever is mapped to your 3rd mouse
> > button) is paste. This is just how X works. Getting around this is a
> > hack in itself.
>
> No, read this: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html
>
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