Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-04 Thread Harley Peters
purple wrote:
 
 
 On 10/3/07, *Harley Peters* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Alexander Skwar wrote:
  Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with
 nvidia-drivers?
 
 
  there's really _no need_ for you to star using new X at this time
 because of its oftenly reported instabilty, lockups and crashes with any
 nvidia driver, make your self mature and stop thinking so bleeding edge
 way..
 X 7.2 runs perfectly at the moment so why to switch from something that
 works to something new and unstable yet just for sake being up 2 date..
 wait some time, it'll all going to be ok soon, so be patient and clever :)
 
 
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I think it's important to point out that if nobody ever ran the testing
versions they would never become stable. You just need to be prepared to
crash and burn once in a while. So backup

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:36:19 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:

 Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
 of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

100.14.19 had a serious bug with Xv output, in that it doesn't work. this
isn't a major problem with the likes of mplayer where you can change
the output driver, but MythTV won't show anything with this driver.

 Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with
 nvidia-drivers?

I've been using 100.14.11 with xorg-server-1.4 with no problems. You have
to edit the nvidia-drivers ebuild to stop is wanting an earlier
xorg-server and add -ignoreABI to your X startup command.


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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-03 Thread Harley Peters
Randy Barlow wrote:
 Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?
 
 On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old video
 cards for which I need to use version 1.0.7185 of nvidia-drivers.  Am I
 going to be able to use xorg 1.4, or will doing so require me to use the
 nv driver?
 

Use at your own risk :)

For me the nvidia 100.14.19 driver causes constant lockups. So does the
100.14.11 driver for that matter.
I had to down grade back to the 100.14.09 driver which is stable for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-03 Thread purple
On 10/3/07, Harley Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Alexander Skwar wrote:
  Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with
 nvidia-drivers?


 there's really _no need_ for you to star using new X at this time because
of its oftenly reported instabilty, lockups and crashes with any nvidia
driver, make your self mature and stop thinking so bleeding edge way..
X 7.2 runs perfectly at the moment so why to switch from something that
works to something new and unstable yet just for sake being up 2 date..
wait some time, it'll all going to be ok soon, so be patient and clever :)


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[gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-02 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello.

When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics card.
I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.

Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?

Thanks,

Alexander Skwar

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-02 Thread Naga
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 11:36:19 Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hello.

 When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
 some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics card.
 I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.

 Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version

This version also fixes bug 194026.

 of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

 Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?

Works fine for me here. The blocker is also removed since NVidia states that 
the new version is compatible with xorg 1.4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Dommett
On Tuesday 02 October 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hello.

 When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
 some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics card.
 I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.

 Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
 of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

 Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?

 Thanks,

 Alexander Skwar

I run a ~x86 system on which I had quite some troubles with 1.4.0 when I tried 
it shortly after the new nVidia drivers shipped.  I haven't tried 1.4.0-r1 
yet.

I'm sure the problems I was seeing were unrelated to the nVidia driver.  I had 
symptoms very similar to this guy: 
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user-de/msg_38486.xml

To revert to a working system (on ~x86) I added the following to 
packages.mask:
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.9
~x11-base/xorg-x11-7.3
=x11-proto/renderproto-0.9.3
~x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4
~x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.2.2

I wish you luck.
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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-02 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
On 11:36 Tue 02 Oct, Alexander Skwar wrote
 Hello.
 
 When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
 some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics card.
 I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.

Yeah, that was due to an ABI change in the new X.org version. The binary NVidia
drivers had to be recompiled - by NVidia, unfortunately.

 Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
 of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

The new X.org server versions still block old releases of the NVidia drivers for
the same reason, however, as NVidia have updated their drivers to match the new
X.org ABI, it _should_ be safe to upgrade now (but keep in mind that you have to
upgrade both packages).

My Laptop's doing fine with the new X.org version and NVidia drivers. Afaik, the
only problem was the ABI - but there are some guys at nvnews that seem to not be
content with the new driver version. Most of them seem to use graphical effects
though.

As every single one of NVidia's releases, this one seems to have its own
problems... but for me it's very sable.

Aleks


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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-02 Thread Randy Barlow
Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?

On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old video
cards for which I need to use version 1.0.7185 of nvidia-drivers.  Am I
going to be able to use xorg 1.4, or will doing so require me to use the
nv driver?

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-02 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:17:46 -0400
Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alexander Skwar wrote:
  Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?
 
 On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old video
 cards for which I need to use version 1.0.7185 of nvidia-drivers.  Am I
 going to be able to use xorg 1.4, or will doing so require me to use the
 nv driver?
 
As far as I know, they update the legacy branches to support xorg-7.3
(xorg-server 1.4). So, 71.86.01 should be ok for your video card and
recent Xorg releases.

I can't confirm it myself, though.

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