[gentoo-user] A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Martin S
I must confess. I've been unfaithful.For a day.After thoroughly trashing my system (~x86) for the second time by uncarefully upgrading my box I decided that I'd try something less brain taxing.So I reinstalled with Kubuntu.
I'm reinstalling Gentoo now ...I prefer battling with my own errors rather than someone elses.I had to fiddle repeatedly with the installation routine just to get the thing installed. It constantly refused to install on my laptop
unless I used extended debugging (on the fifth attempt). Then I just wondered who decided I needed all that rubbish in my KDE installation.All rubbish installed I tried opening a mpg from the net. Totem can't handle mpg, trying Kaffeine I get No codecs installed. Looking desperately for codecs in the install tools I came up empty. So I tried the installation docs for Kubuntu - which aren't updated for the latest release. So I went to the forums to look for the solution, but being acustomed to the Gentoo forums I found them a bit confusing.
OK, I thought - I'll leave that for later, so I tried playing a DVD can't find the CD-player at the location that /etc/fstab says it is mounted.So I run an installer, it is setup with the configuration decided on by Kubuntu developers, and it doesn't work out of the box. 
Why bother? Back to Gentoo. And battling my own errors... I think I'll run the stable branch this time though.Regards,Martin S


Re: [gentoo-user] A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Robin
That's what you get for trying to abandon Gentoo... LoL.

Robin

On 12/20/05, Martin S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I must confess. I've been unfaithful.
 For a day.

 After thoroughly trashing my system (~x86) for the second time by
 uncarefully upgrading my box I decided that I'd try something less brain
 taxing.
 So I reinstalled with Kubuntu.

 I'm reinstalling Gentoo now ...
 I prefer battling with my own errors rather than someone elses.

 I had to fiddle repeatedly with the installation routine just to get the
 thing installed. It constantly refused to install on my laptop
 unless I used extended debugging (on the fifth attempt). Then I just
 wondered who decided I needed all that rubbish in my KDE installation.

 All rubbish installed I tried opening a mpg from the net. Totem can't
 handle mpg, trying Kaffeine I get No codecs installed. Looking
 desperately for codecs in the install tools I came up empty. So I tried the
 installation docs for Kubuntu - which aren't updated for the latest release.
 So I went to the forums to look for the solution, but being acustomed to the
 Gentoo forums I found them a bit confusing.
 OK, I thought - I'll leave that for later, so I tried playing a DVD can't
 find the CD-player at the location that /etc/fstab says it is mounted.

 So I run an installer, it is setup with the configuration decided on by
 Kubuntu developers, and it doesn't work out of the box.
 Why bother?

 Back to Gentoo. And battling my own errors...
 I think I'll run the stable branch this time though.


 Regards,

 Martin S

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Re: [gentoo-user] A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Philip Webb
051220 Martin S wrote:
 I must confess. I've been unfaithful For a day.
 After thoroughly trashing my system (~x86) for the second time
 by uncarefully upgrading I decided to try something less brain taxing.
 So I reinstalled with Kubuntu.

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Yes, a short turn with another distro soon reminds how good Gentoo is.

A couple of weeks ago, I wanted to update the OS in my back-up machine,
which had Mandrake 10.0 (early 2004) working adequately when needed
 is too slow  infrequently used to install Gentoo.

The latest Mandrake 2006 CD 1 refused to boot, so I had to make a diskette,
then the installer couldn't figure out my 2001 graphics card,
then finally when I tried to boot the installed system
all I got was a lot of colored lines across the screen.

How about Kubuntu? -- I don't like Gnome, so didn't want Ubuntu -- ,
so I got the CD, installed  booted the system.  First,
I wanted to set up ADSL, but the window fell off the bottom of the screen
 I couldn't see the sysadmin privileges button hidden down there;
when I tried to get sysprivs via CLI, it refused to recognise the password:
(K)ubuntu has a mickey-mouse simplification which abolishes root
 does everything with the user's own password,
but of course the tiny handful of Kubuntu developers have screwed it up.

The 2001 graphics card has a bug which prevents text showing on screen
before X is started, so I couldn't install Slackware.

Finally, I managed to get Mandrake 2005 = 10.2 from their mirrors
 got it installed, tho' I had to use the diskette again to start installing.

 I'm reinstalling Gentoo now ...
 I prefer battling with my own errors rather than someone elses.

Exactly !  Back up often, try to understand what you're doing, incl ~x86,
but if you do wreck your system, the best bet by far is re-installing Gentoo.
And let's tell the devs how much we appreciate their donated time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Alec Shaner

Philip Webb wrote:

Yes, a short turn with another distro soon reminds how good Gentoo is.

A couple of weeks ago, I wanted to update the OS in my back-up machine,
which had Mandrake 10.0 (early 2004) working adequately when needed
 is too slow  infrequently used to install Gentoo.

[snip]


How about Kubuntu? -- I don't like Gnome, so didn't want Ubuntu -- ,
so I got the CD, installed  booted the system.  First,

[snip]

A little off topic, but I'm also a non-Gnome guy and I have had pretty 
good luck with the free version of Xandros on a P3 450 machine that I 
really only care about browsing the web, listening to audio, or playing 
simple games on. I don't know how politically incorrect Xandros is, 
but it seems to work pretty well.

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