Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-08-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 02 August 2015 09:11:18 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Friday 31 July 2015 13:53:42 Dale wrote:
  This may not be related but thought I would mention.  For some reason,
  my system will not boot a kernel newer than 3.18.7.  I use
  gentoo-sources and generally use make oldconfig.  I have also tried the
  new 4.0 kernels as well.  They try to boot but don't make it past the
  kernel trying to do its thing.  I don't reboot often so I have not had
  the chance to figure out exactly why this is happening.  Recently I had
  to start using that pesky init thingy but I don't think that is causing
  the problem.   I get a error/panic and then it says it is going to
  reboot in 10 seconds.  By the time I figure out where the failure might
  be, it reboots itself.
 
 That could well be it, Dale. I tried both my currently installed kernels,
 3.18.16 and 4.0.5, but of course they're both later than 3.18.7. I'd still
 like to get this working, so I'll install an earlier kernel and try that -
 when I've had a bit of a rest!

Nope. That wasn't it. Two more days of wrestling later I still haven't got it 
to boot. I have to conclude that this BIOS is simply incapable of it, or I've 
missed a kernel setting despite hours of poring over the config.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-08-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 31 July 2015 13:53:42 Dale wrote:
 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  Hello list,
  
  I've created a new btrfs volume on SSDs, complete with a lot of subvolumes
  corresponding to the old lvm2 logical volumes. I took the opportunity of
  removing a couple of old partitions, so I now have this:
  
  /dev/sd[ab]1 form /dev/md1 as /boot,
  /dev/sd[ab]2 are my rescue system: sda2 is its root, sdb2 is its portage
  tree, /dev/sd[ab]3 is the btrfs file system.
  
  I can boot my rescue system with no problems, but not the main system - I
  get a kernel panic with BTRFS: failed to read the system array on sda3.
  I'm writing this after chroot, su - prh, startx.
  
  Both in the main and rescue systems I have this:
  $ grep -i btrfs /usr/src/linux/.config
  CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=y
  CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
  # CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_CHECK_INTEGRITY is not set
  # CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_RUN_SANITY_TESTS is not set
  # CONFIG_BTRFS_DEBUG is not set
  # CONFIG_BTRFS_ASSERT is not set
  
  The relevant grub.cfg entries (I've moved to grub-2) are:
  
  menuentry 'Gentoo Linux 4.0.5, no network' {
  linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda3
  softlevel=nonet
  net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
  }
  menuentry 'Rescue System 4.0.5' {
  linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo-rescue root=/dev/sda2
  net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
  }
  
  Something seemed to be wrong in the kernel setup, so to test that I
  compiled the main kernel with the .config from the rescue system. Same
  result.
  
  Another test: I wondered whether, somehow, the btrfs volume included the
  name of the mount point where it had been created, and would only allow
  itself to be mounted there. Not so: moving its mount point in the rescue
  system didn't prevent it from being mounted. I didn't expect it would,
  since the kernel panic occurs long before fstab is read.

---8

 This may not be related but thought I would mention.  For some reason,
 my system will not boot a kernel newer than 3.18.7.  I use
 gentoo-sources and generally use make oldconfig.  I have also tried the
 new 4.0 kernels as well.  They try to boot but don't make it past the
 kernel trying to do its thing.  I don't reboot often so I have not had
 the chance to figure out exactly why this is happening.  Recently I had
 to start using that pesky init thingy but I don't think that is causing
 the problem.   I get a error/panic and then it says it is going to
 reboot in 10 seconds.  By the time I figure out where the failure might
 be, it reboots itself.

That could well be it, Dale. I tried both my currently installed kernels, 
3.18.16 and 4.0.5, but of course they're both later than 3.18.7. I'd still 
like to get this working, so I'll install an earlier kernel and try that - 
when I've had a bit of a rest!

Thanks for the clue.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-08-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:53:42 -0500, Dale wrote:

 This may not be related but thought I would mention.  For some reason,
 my system will not boot a kernel newer than 3.18.7.  I use
 gentoo-sources and generally use make oldconfig.  I have also tried the
 new 4.0 kernels as well.  They try to boot but don't make it past the
 kernel trying to do its thing.  I don't reboot often so I have not had
 the chance to figure out exactly why this is happening.  Recently I had
 to start using that pesky init thingy but I don't think that is causing
 the problem.   I get a error/panic and then it says it is going to
 reboot in 10 seconds.  By the time I figure out where the failure might
 be, it reboots itself. 
 The reboot after a panic is a kernel option. You can turn it off or
 lengthen the delay to give yourself time to read the message.

 The option is CONFIG_PANIC_TIMEOUT.



I thought it was a option but couldn't recall what it was called.  The
biggest thing is I don't reboot very often which makes it harder to
diagnose a kernel problem.  My biggest reason for a reboot/shutdown,
power failure and batteries are getting a bit low. 

Thanks for the info.  I'll go do something about that so that I have it
when I reboot several months from now and have forgot all about this
problem.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 31 July 2015 06:44:54 Rich Freeman wrote:

 As Neil already pointed out, if you're not using an initramfs you need
 to put all your devices on this line if they're part of an array.  The
 kernel will not scan to find the others.

I didn't mention it the first time but I'd already tried 
device=/dev/sda3,device=/dev/sdb3 on the command line and it didn't help. I'd 
also tried the initramfs but that didn't help either. I'll try them again.

 If you do use an initramfs you really should use a UUID or label
 instead of a device name, but a device name will work as long as it
 happens to not get reordered on you.

I have only two SATA drives, both SSD, so even if they do get reordered they 
should still result in the same, no?

  The other thing I've tried is to build an initramfs with dracut. I tried
  to include its btrfs module but it refused because it couldn't find a
  command btrfs. So I recompiled the kernel with btrfs as a module and added
  'filesystems+=btrfs ' into dracut.conf. Still no success.
 
 Do you have btrfs-utils installed?

I have btrfs-progs, which I assume is what you mean.

 Dracut should work fine with btrfs built into the kernel natively or as a
 module, though if you want to boot directly it will have to be native

Yes, of course, I understand that. I tried it both ways round, as I said.

 I believe that as long as dracut can find the btrfs utility it will
 put it in the initramfs.

I'll check that again with lsinitrd.
 
 Otherwise there isn't much more to this - I think these two issues are
 the only real problems you're having, depending on which route you
 decide to take with the initramfs (which I still recommend, but you
 could of course have separate grub lines to boot with and without it
 if you want to experiment).

Indeed. Thank you both.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 31 July 2015 13:33:18 I wrote:
 On Friday 31 July 2015 06:44:54 Rich Freeman wrote:
  As Neil already pointed out, if you're not using an initramfs you need
  to put all your devices on this line if they're part of an array.  The
  kernel will not scan to find the others.
 
 I didn't mention it the first time but I'd already tried
 device=/dev/sda3,device=/dev/sdb3 on the command line and it didn't help.
 I'd also tried the initramfs but that didn't help either. I'll try them
 again.

This time I tried device=/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 in case that was the proper
syntax, but it made no discernible difference - the final message from the
kernel panic was the same VFS: Unable to mount roofs on unknown-block(8,3).

---8

  I believe that as long as dracut can find the btrfs utility it will
  put it in the initramfs.

Indeed it did so for me (this was today when I ran
dracut --kver 4.0.5-gentoo again:

# lsinitrd -k 4.0.5-gentoo | grep btr
btrfs
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root  142 Jun 15 11:27 
lib64/dracut/hooks/initqueue/timeout/10-btrfs_timeout.sh
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  418 Apr 26 14:07 
lib64/udev/rules.d/64-btrfs.rules
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   427048 Jul 31 13:39 sbin/btrfs
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   427048 Jul 31 13:39 sbin/btrfsck
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   187384 Jul 31 13:39 sbin/btrfs-zero-log
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 1196 Jul 30 08:50 sbin/fsck.btrfs

  Otherwise there isn't much more to this

I've been thinking that for a few days now :)

  I think these two issues are the only real problems you're having,
  depending on which route you decide to take with the initramfs (which I
  still recommend, but you could of course have separate grub lines to boot
  with and without it if you want to experiment).

Yes, I'm playing with two grub entries, of which one tries devices= and the
other includes this line (is the syntax right? The file does exist):

initrd /boot/initramfs-4.0.5-gentoo.img

In the case of the initramfs the 8,3 in the kernel panic message becomes 8,19.
Is that a useful clue?

Another wobbler: as far as I can remember I haven't done anything about
compression, but could it have crept in somewhere?

And another: my dicky memory says that after booting SysRescCD to lay out the
new partitions and restore my rescue system, I booted the latter to do the
rest of the work, including mkfs.btrfs. Perhaps I should start again right
from the beginning but using SysRescCD's mkfs.btrfs. That'll be another day's
work.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-07-31 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote:
 Hello list,

 I've created a new btrfs volume on SSDs, complete with a lot of subvolumes
 corresponding to the old lvm2 logical volumes. I took the opportunity of
 removing a couple of old partitions, so I now have this:

 /dev/sd[ab]1 form /dev/md1 as /boot,
 /dev/sd[ab]2 are my rescue system: sda2 is its root, sdb2 is its portage tree,
 /dev/sd[ab]3 is the btrfs file system.

 I can boot my rescue system with no problems, but not the main system - I get
 a kernel panic with BTRFS: failed to read the system array on sda3. I'm
 writing this after chroot, su - prh, startx.

 Both in the main and rescue systems I have this:
 $ grep -i btrfs /usr/src/linux/.config
 CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=y
 CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_CHECK_INTEGRITY is not set
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_RUN_SANITY_TESTS is not set
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_DEBUG is not set
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_ASSERT is not set

 The relevant grub.cfg entries (I've moved to grub-2) are:

 menuentry 'Gentoo Linux 4.0.5, no network' {
 linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=nonet 
 net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
 }
 menuentry 'Rescue System 4.0.5' {
 linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo-rescue root=/dev/sda2 
 net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
 }

 Something seemed to be wrong in the kernel setup, so to test that I compiled
 the main kernel with the .config from the rescue system. Same result.

 Another test: I wondered whether, somehow, the btrfs volume included the name
 of the mount point where it had been created, and would only allow itself to
 be mounted there. Not so: moving its mount point in the rescue system didn't
 prevent it from being mounted. I didn't expect it would, since the kernel
 panic occurs long before fstab is read.

 The other thing I've tried is to build an initramfs with dracut. I tried to
 include its btrfs module but it refused because it couldn't find a command
 btrfs. So I recompiled the kernel with btrfs as a module and added
 'filesystems+=btrfs ' into dracut.conf. Still no success.

 After a few days of floundering around, copious googling and getting splinters
 under my fingernails I'm out of ideas. Can anyone see what else I can try? I
 created the btrfs with mkfs.btrfs -m raid1 -d raid1 --label GENTOO /dev/sda3
 /dev/sdb3. I've done that twice, with all the subvolume creation and backup
 recovery, the second time with --force.



This may not be related but thought I would mention.  For some reason,
my system will not boot a kernel newer than 3.18.7.  I use
gentoo-sources and generally use make oldconfig.  I have also tried the
new 4.0 kernels as well.  They try to boot but don't make it past the
kernel trying to do its thing.  I don't reboot often so I have not had
the chance to figure out exactly why this is happening.  Recently I had
to start using that pesky init thingy but I don't think that is causing
the problem.   I get a error/panic and then it says it is going to
reboot in 10 seconds.  By the time I figure out where the failure might
be, it reboots itself. 

I thought I would mention just in the rare event you are running into
the same issue I am.  Just a thought.  If you know this isn't the
problem, just ignore and carry on. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 




Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:53:42 -0500, Dale wrote:

 This may not be related but thought I would mention.  For some reason,
 my system will not boot a kernel newer than 3.18.7.  I use
 gentoo-sources and generally use make oldconfig.  I have also tried the
 new 4.0 kernels as well.  They try to boot but don't make it past the
 kernel trying to do its thing.  I don't reboot often so I have not had
 the chance to figure out exactly why this is happening.  Recently I had
 to start using that pesky init thingy but I don't think that is causing
 the problem.   I get a error/panic and then it says it is going to
 reboot in 10 seconds.  By the time I figure out where the failure might
 be, it reboots itself. 

The reboot after a panic is a kernel option. You can turn it off or
lengthen the delay to give yourself time to read the message.

The option is CONFIG_PANIC_TIMEOUT.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

There are no stupid questions, just too many inquisitive idiots.


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[gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list,

I've created a new btrfs volume on SSDs, complete with a lot of subvolumes
corresponding to the old lvm2 logical volumes. I took the opportunity of
removing a couple of old partitions, so I now have this:

/dev/sd[ab]1 form /dev/md1 as /boot,
/dev/sd[ab]2 are my rescue system: sda2 is its root, sdb2 is its portage tree,
/dev/sd[ab]3 is the btrfs file system.

I can boot my rescue system with no problems, but not the main system - I get
a kernel panic with BTRFS: failed to read the system array on sda3. I'm
writing this after chroot, su - prh, startx.

Both in the main and rescue systems I have this:
$ grep -i btrfs /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=y
CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
# CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_CHECK_INTEGRITY is not set
# CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_RUN_SANITY_TESTS is not set
# CONFIG_BTRFS_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_BTRFS_ASSERT is not set

The relevant grub.cfg entries (I've moved to grub-2) are:

menuentry 'Gentoo Linux 4.0.5, no network' {
linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=nonet 
net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
}
menuentry 'Rescue System 4.0.5' {
linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo-rescue root=/dev/sda2 
net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
}

Something seemed to be wrong in the kernel setup, so to test that I compiled
the main kernel with the .config from the rescue system. Same result.

Another test: I wondered whether, somehow, the btrfs volume included the name
of the mount point where it had been created, and would only allow itself to
be mounted there. Not so: moving its mount point in the rescue system didn't
prevent it from being mounted. I didn't expect it would, since the kernel
panic occurs long before fstab is read.

The other thing I've tried is to build an initramfs with dracut. I tried to
include its btrfs module but it refused because it couldn't find a command
btrfs. So I recompiled the kernel with btrfs as a module and added
'filesystems+=btrfs ' into dracut.conf. Still no success.

After a few days of floundering around, copious googling and getting splinters
under my fingernails I'm out of ideas. Can anyone see what else I can try? I
created the btrfs with mkfs.btrfs -m raid1 -d raid1 --label GENTOO /dev/sda3
/dev/sdb3. I've done that twice, with all the subvolume creation and backup
recovery, the second time with --force.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:35:46 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 $ grep -i btrfs /usr/src/linux/.config
 CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=y
 CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_CHECK_INTEGRITY is not set
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_RUN_SANITY_TESTS is not set
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_DEBUG is not set
 # CONFIG_BTRFS_ASSERT is not set
 
 The relevant grub.cfg entries (I've moved to grub-2) are:
 
 menuentry 'Gentoo Linux 4.0.5, no network' {
 linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda3
 softlevel=nonet net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
 }
 menuentry 'Rescue System 4.0.5' {
 linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo-rescue root=/dev/sda2 
 net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
 }

Btrfs needs to scan the build the array, which is normally done from an
initramfs. As you are not using one, you need to specify both devices
using the device= syntax posted in the Hubris thread.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Unsupported service (adj): Broken (see Demon)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot btrfs

2015-07-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:35 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
 menuentry 'Gentoo Linux 4.0.5, no network' {
 linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=nonet
 net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
 }

As Neil already pointed out, if you're not using an initramfs you need
to put all your devices on this line if they're part of an array.  The
kernel will not scan to find the others.

If you do use an initramfs you really should use a UUID or label
instead of a device name, but a device name will work as long as it
happens to not get reordered on you.


 The other thing I've tried is to build an initramfs with dracut. I tried to
 include its btrfs module but it refused because it couldn't find a command
 btrfs. So I recompiled the kernel with btrfs as a module and added
 'filesystems+=btrfs ' into dracut.conf. Still no success.


Do you have btrfs-utils installed?  Dracut should work fine with btrfs
built into the kernel natively or as a module, though if you want to
boot directly it will have to be native (which is one of the reasons
most distros always use an initramfs - they want a modular kernel but
can't predict what your root is running on).

I believe that as long as dracut can find the btrfs utility it will
put it in the initramfs.

Otherwise there isn't much more to this - I think these two issues are
the only real problems you're having, depending on which route you
decide to take with the initramfs (which I still recommend, but you
could of course have separate grub lines to boot with and without it
if you want to experiment).

-- 
Rich