Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Renat Golubchyk wrote: > "syntax on" within vim or in your .vimrc That would be ":syntax on" (note leading colon) from inside vim. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
On 11/8/05, Michael Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking forsomething with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.Thanks,Mike-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listEclipse is the ultimate IDE from my perspective. I am running 3.1 with Pydev[1], Colorer[2], Web Standards Tools[3], C++[4], EPIC (Perl)[5], and PHPEclipse[6] which lets me do just about everything. The only thing with Eclipse (and it may just be me) is that there seems to be a bit of learning involved to figure out what it means by perspectives and natures and such, after that its the best IDE I have ever used. [1] http://pydev.sourceforge.net/[2] http://colorer.sourceforge.net/[3] http://eclipse.org/webtools/wst/main.xml[4] http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/[5] http://e-p-i-c.sourceforge.net/[6] http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-view_articles.php-Mike-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux takes junk and turns it into something useful. Windows takes something useful and turns it into junk.
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 05:21, Michael Shaw wrote: > gentuxx wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Michael Shaw wrote: > >>What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking > >>for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi > >>or gedit. > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Mike > > > >I seems like you've got a lot of good suggestions here, so I'll just > >throw my 2¢ out into the pot too! > > > >For perl, I use vim for quick edits and kate for larger projects. It > >doesn't auto-tab the way I think it should, but that's probably just a > >configuration that I haven't given it yet. ;-) > > > >I like bluefish for HTML|PHP|CSS, but the CSS and PHP colorization is > >a little jumpy. Sometimes it'll do it, sometime it won't. So then I > >started using gphpedit for JUST PHP. bluefish is nice for (X)?HTML, > >and OK for CSS, but more often than not, I find myself comfy with PHP > >and CSS in gphpedit. > > > >I might have to look into eclipse though.that sounds interesting. > >And I worked with emacs while I was working on some documentation for > >the Fedora Documentation Project, I could probably handle that if the > >plug-ins worked right. > > > >Anyway, my top pick for perl is kate, for PHP is gPHPEdit. > > > >Cheers! > > > >- -- > >gentux > >echo "hfouvyAdpy/ofu" | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' > > > >gentux's gpg fingerprint ==> 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A > >6996 0993 > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > >iD8DBQFDcVqOLYGSSmmWCZMRAk8tAJ4zn4IRuwmgx/rOIAwi701dti+aJQCfS3jt > >8czaaR9XrRvTJW2p2WNBTwY= > >=9/bd > >-END PGP SIGNATURE- > > I found Bluefish, but the syntax hilighting didn't work. gPHPEdit looks > good. I'll give it a try. Even if only for syntext hilighting. > > Thanks, > Mike >From the free/open editors Quanta is the one that suits me best. The gratest editor ever tried is Zend's IDE. This is for writing HTML/PHP, I don't do Perl -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
Heinz Sporn wrote: Am Dienstag, den 08.11.2005, 19:07 -0500 schrieb Thomas Tuttle: On November 08 at 13:33 EST, Michael Shaw hastily scribbled: What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. I can offer three suggestions: 1. vim. If you set it up right (just a few lines in ~/.vimrc), it will do syntax highlighting properly. 2. jedit. It's java-based, but relatively light, supports many file types (although it is a tad Java-centric), and has good plugins. Want to second jEdit for it's platform independency and many nice plugins. 3. bluefish. It's not language-centric, but I *think* it has PHP support (I might be wrong), and it's a good "web development" editor. Hope this helps. Alright, I'll give jEdit a try to. Thanks to everyone for all their suggestions. Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
Am Dienstag, den 08.11.2005, 19:07 -0500 schrieb Thomas Tuttle: > On November 08 at 13:33 EST, Michael Shaw hastily scribbled: > > What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for > > something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. > I can offer three suggestions: > > 1. vim. If you set it up right (just a few lines in ~/.vimrc), it will > do syntax highlighting properly. > > 2. jedit. It's java-based, but relatively light, supports many file > types (although it is a tad Java-centric), and has good plugins. Want to second jEdit for it's platform independency and many nice plugins. > > 3. bluefish. It's not language-centric, but I *think* it has PHP > support (I might be wrong), and it's a good "web development" editor. > > Hope this helps. > -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
gentuxx wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Shaw wrote: What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. Thanks, Mike I seems like you've got a lot of good suggestions here, so I'll just throw my 2¢ out into the pot too! For perl, I use vim for quick edits and kate for larger projects. It doesn't auto-tab the way I think it should, but that's probably just a configuration that I haven't given it yet. ;-) I like bluefish for HTML|PHP|CSS, but the CSS and PHP colorization is a little jumpy. Sometimes it'll do it, sometime it won't. So then I started using gphpedit for JUST PHP. bluefish is nice for (X)?HTML, and OK for CSS, but more often than not, I find myself comfy with PHP and CSS in gphpedit. I might have to look into eclipse though.that sounds interesting. And I worked with emacs while I was working on some documentation for the Fedora Documentation Project, I could probably handle that if the plug-ins worked right. Anyway, my top pick for perl is kate, for PHP is gPHPEdit. Cheers! - -- gentux echo "hfouvyAdpy/ofu" | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint ==> 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDcVqOLYGSSmmWCZMRAk8tAJ4zn4IRuwmgx/rOIAwi701dti+aJQCfS3jt 8czaaR9XrRvTJW2p2WNBTwY= =9/bd -END PGP SIGNATURE- I found Bluefish, but the syntax hilighting didn't work. gPHPEdit looks good. I'll give it a try. Even if only for syntext hilighting. Thanks, Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:25:05 -0800 Michael Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A. Khattri wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote: Well, my terminal does have some color, but not syntax hilighting from within VIM. How would I changes this? I actually don't mind VIM, as it is quite straightforward. If syntax hilighting worked, then I'd probably use it. "syntax on" within vim or in your .vimrc "filetype plugin indent on" would enable filetype-specific settings. Google for some example .vimrc files. VIM is actually very flexible ;-) One pretty complex but commented example is Ciaran's. You can find it at http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/configs/vimrc If vim (or gvim) is not enough check out Quanta (for php development): http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/ Cheers, Renat Thanks you for your advice. I'l see if I can get VIM to work for me. Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Shaw wrote: > What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking > for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi > or gedit. > > Thanks, > Mike I seems like you've got a lot of good suggestions here, so I'll just throw my 2¢ out into the pot too! For perl, I use vim for quick edits and kate for larger projects. It doesn't auto-tab the way I think it should, but that's probably just a configuration that I haven't given it yet. ;-) I like bluefish for HTML|PHP|CSS, but the CSS and PHP colorization is a little jumpy. Sometimes it'll do it, sometime it won't. So then I started using gphpedit for JUST PHP. bluefish is nice for (X)?HTML, and OK for CSS, but more often than not, I find myself comfy with PHP and CSS in gphpedit. I might have to look into eclipse though.that sounds interesting. And I worked with emacs while I was working on some documentation for the Fedora Documentation Project, I could probably handle that if the plug-ins worked right. Anyway, my top pick for perl is kate, for PHP is gPHPEdit. Cheers! - -- gentux echo "hfouvyAdpy/ofu" | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint ==> 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDcVqOLYGSSmmWCZMRAk8tAJ4zn4IRuwmgx/rOIAwi701dti+aJQCfS3jt 8czaaR9XrRvTJW2p2WNBTwY= =9/bd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
On November 08 at 13:33 EST, Michael Shaw hastily scribbled: > What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for > something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. I can offer three suggestions: 1. vim. If you set it up right (just a few lines in ~/.vimrc), it will do syntax highlighting properly. 2. jedit. It's java-based, but relatively light, supports many file types (although it is a tad Java-centric), and has good plugins. 3. bluefish. It's not language-centric, but I *think* it has PHP support (I might be wrong), and it's a good "web development" editor. Hope this helps. -- Thomas Tuttle A List Apart: For people who make websites. (www.alistapart.com) email: thinkinginbinary.com | www: http://thinkinginbinary.webhop.net/ aim: thinkinginbinary | jabber: thinkinginbinary.org pgpp1IU8x171s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:25:05 -0800 Michael Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A. Khattri wrote: > > >On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote: > Well, my terminal does have some color, but not syntax hilighting > from within VIM. How would I changes this? I actually don't mind > VIM, as it is quite straightforward. If syntax hilighting worked, > then I'd probably use it. "syntax on" within vim or in your .vimrc "filetype plugin indent on" would enable filetype-specific settings. Google for some example .vimrc files. VIM is actually very flexible ;-) One pretty complex but commented example is Ciaran's. You can find it at http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/configs/vimrc If vim (or gvim) is not enough check out Quanta (for php development): http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/ Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) pgpuC3ag5JwlA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
Stuart Herbert wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 10:33 -0800, Michael Shaw wrote: What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. Thanks, Mike I used the php-mode for emacs when I co-wrote the Zend Certification Study Guide. Unlike vim, emacs actually parses and understands the code it's editing; this makes the syntax highlighting and indentation support much more flexible and accurate. I'd go as far as saying that the auto-indentation support for php-mode for emacs is by far the best I've worked with to date. Today, I use the phpEclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.0. I'm very happy with this. Performance is very good, the object browser works better than php-mode for Emacs did, and it's very useful indeed to be able to search all the files of a project from within the editor. There's also the advantage of being able to use other Eclipse plugins, such as support for subversion. phpEclipse is my main environment, which I use a good 8-10 hours in a working day. I tried Zend Studio about 18 months ago, but didn't like it. I found the performance was too slow (hate using software that can't keep up with my typing!), auto-indenting was inflexible (and I couldn't convince Zeev why that mattered :(, there was no subversion support, and no anti-aliased font support (tiring on the eyes when your main machine is a laptop). I haven't tried Zend Studio 4, and have no idea whether it has improved in any of these areas or not. Can't comment on a good environment for perl. Last time I used perl seriously was in '96. Things have changed a lot since then. Hope that helps, Stu I'll try phpEclipse. I'll peruse the wiki to see if I can get it set up. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
A. Khattri wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote: What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. Not true - maybe your terminal doesn't do color or you have it switched off? Well, my terminal does have some color, but not syntax hilighting from within VIM. How would I changes this? I actually don't mind VIM, as it is quite straightforward. If syntax hilighting worked, then I'd probably use it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
Hi, On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 10:33 -0800, Michael Shaw wrote: > What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for > something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. > > Thanks, > Mike I used the php-mode for emacs when I co-wrote the Zend Certification Study Guide. Unlike vim, emacs actually parses and understands the code it's editing; this makes the syntax highlighting and indentation support much more flexible and accurate. I'd go as far as saying that the auto-indentation support for php-mode for emacs is by far the best I've worked with to date. Today, I use the phpEclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.0. I'm very happy with this. Performance is very good, the object browser works better than php-mode for Emacs did, and it's very useful indeed to be able to search all the files of a project from within the editor. There's also the advantage of being able to use other Eclipse plugins, such as support for subversion. phpEclipse is my main environment, which I use a good 8-10 hours in a working day. I tried Zend Studio about 18 months ago, but didn't like it. I found the performance was too slow (hate using software that can't keep up with my typing!), auto-indenting was inflexible (and I couldn't convince Zeev why that mattered :(, there was no subversion support, and no anti-aliased font support (tiring on the eyes when your main machine is a laptop). I haven't tried Zend Studio 4, and have no idea whether it has improved in any of these areas or not. Can't comment on a good environment for perl. Last time I used perl seriously was in '96. Things have changed a lot since then. Hope that helps, Stu -- Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer http://www.gentoo.org/ http://stu.gnqs.org/diary/ GnuGP key id# F9AFC57C available from http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint = 31FB 50D4 1F88 E227 F319 C549 0C2F 80BA F9AF C57C -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
If you want something easy, gui-based and cool, try Kate. It's a cool, advanced KDE-based editor. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote: > What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for > something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. Not true - maybe your terminal doesn't do color or you have it switched off? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
Michael Shaw wrote: What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. I use vim. it highlights and can auto indent. perfect for me! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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vim rulez! My personal opinion is that vim is the best, with an assortment of carefully chosen plugins is perfect. takes some time to learn it though. Catalin Michael Shaw wrote: What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. Thanks, Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 12:33, Michael Shaw wrote: > What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for > something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. acutally, vim will do php and perl syntax highlighting. > > Thanks, > Mike -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL
What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit. Thanks, Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
