Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
Thanks for the replies so far. At $450 (Canadian $) I'm not expecting a gaming rig. If it'll play youtube, stream my HDHomerun tuner, etc, I'll be happy. And of course email/surfing/spreadsheets/etc. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
2010/12/21 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org: I'm looking for a Boxing-Day gift for myself. The local Walmart shows an interesting 17 Acer laptop at... http://www.walmart.ca/Electronics/Computers/Laptops/17quot-Laptops/Acer-Aspire-AS7551-3029-173-Notebook Reading the specs, it does not seem to be cutting corners, low price notwithstanding. As usual, my main concern is the video chip, and Gentoo support (or lack thereof?). If it can be made to work under Gentoo without trouble, I'm very interested. Anyone hear one way or the other about linux, especially Gentoo, compatability? My chip is integrated, but it's close to that one. It's a 4200hd card. It works perfectly with the open source (radeon) driver. Compositing works ok as well. I don't do gaming, though. So can't comment on that. The open source drivers is all I would ever recommend for ATi cards. If you plan to use proprietary drivers then I'd use some other brand. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
On 12/21/10 09:02:32, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: If you plan to use proprietary drivers then I'd use some other brand. Why? I have several machines with an onboard Radeon HD 3300 chip. The recent versions of x11-drivers/ati-drivers (currently 10.11) run just fine with the lastest kernel (2.6.36) and the latest xorg-server (1.9.2.902) Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
2010/12/21 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de: On 12/21/10 09:02:32, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: If you plan to use proprietary drivers then I'd use some other brand. Why? I have several machines with an onboard Radeon HD 3300 chip. The recent versions of x11-drivers/ati-drivers (currently 10.11) run just fine with the lastest kernel (2.6.36) and the latest xorg-server (1.9.2.902) If you have been an fglrx user for a long time you should know that's not the usual case (unless things have changed drastically in the last few months). This driver **usually** doesn't work with latest X and/or kernel. Punctually, it might, but usually you have to keep your system downgraded intentionally to keep these drivers working. I am not advertising any other brand here (and I have mentioned no brand name). Merely describing my experience with fglrx, for several years and until a few months ago. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
On 12/21/10 11:46:21, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2010/12/21 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de: On 12/21/10 09:02:32, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: If you plan to use proprietary drivers then I'd use some other brand. Why? I have several machines with an onboard Radeon HD 3300 chip. The recent versions of x11-drivers/ati-drivers (currently 10.11) run just fine with the lastest kernel (2.6.36) and the latest xorg-server (1.9.2.902) If you have been an fglrx user for a long time you should know that's not the usual case (unless things have changed drastically in the last few months). Yes, I do think it has changed recently. There is even a a more recent version 10.12 but not in the tree, yet. This driver **usually** doesn't work with latest X and/or kernel. Punctually, it might, but usually you have to keep your system downgraded intentionally to keep these drivers working. I am not advertising any other brand here (and I have mentioned no brand name). Merely describing my experience with fglrx, for several years and until a few months ago. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
On 12/21/10 09:02:32, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: If you plan to use proprietary drivers then I'd use some other brand. Why? I have several machines with an onboard Radeon HD 3300 chip. The recent versions of x11-drivers/ati-drivers (currently 10.11) run just fine with the lastest kernel (2.6.36) and the latest xorg-server (1.9.2.902) If you have been an fglrx user for a long time you should know that's not the usual case (unless things have changed drastically in the last few months). Yes, I do think it has changed recently. There is even a a more recent version 10.12 but not in the tree, yet. I've been using fglrx for 18 months without problem on amd64 (which is currently using xorg 1.7.7). I would assume that ~amd64/~x86 would be more troublesome as the driver will take some time to catch up with the latest developments.
Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
on 12/21/2010 01:15 AM Walter Dnes wrote the following: I'm looking for a Boxing-Day gift for myself. The local Walmart shows an interesting 17 Acer laptop at... http://www.walmart.ca/Electronics/Computers/Laptops/17quot-Laptops/Acer-Aspire-AS7551-3029-173-Notebook Reading the specs, it does not seem to be cutting corners, low price notwithstanding. As usual, my main concern is the video chip, and Gentoo support (or lack thereof?). If it can be made to work under Gentoo without trouble, I'm very interested. Anyone hear one way or the other about linux, especially Gentoo, compatability? I would recommend a laptop with a graphics card from a vendor, whose name starts with nv... and ends with ...idia(*) O:-) *and* make sure it has adequate ventilation for cooling (reviews should help). (*)It would save you from a lot of trouble with support for 3D drivers ... 8-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
2010/12/21 Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com: On 12/21/10 09:02:32, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: If you plan to use proprietary drivers then I'd use some other brand. Why? I have several machines with an onboard Radeon HD 3300 chip. The recent versions of x11-drivers/ati-drivers (currently 10.11) run just fine with the lastest kernel (2.6.36) and the latest xorg-server (1.9.2.902) If you have been an fglrx user for a long time you should know that's not the usual case (unless things have changed drastically in the last few months). Yes, I do think it has changed recently. There is even a a more recent version 10.12 but not in the tree, yet. I've been using fglrx for 18 months without problem on amd64 (which is currently using xorg 1.7.7). I would assume that ~amd64/~x86 would be more troublesome as the driver will take some time to catch up with the latest developments. Admittedly, I never used stable arch, in either x86 or x86_64. Admittedly -as well- it's been long since I used any proprietary driver. I suggest using the open driver unless you need the extra power for gaming. Depending on your requisites the open driver might be ok for you even if you are a gamer. Such chip is very well supported nowadays when using the radeon free driver, even for 3d. It's just easier and you don't have to recompile anything each time you install a new kernel and/or xorg bumps its version number. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
[gentoo-user] Experiences with ATI Radeon HD 4250 video card?
I'm looking for a Boxing-Day gift for myself. The local Walmart shows an interesting 17 Acer laptop at... http://www.walmart.ca/Electronics/Computers/Laptops/17quot-Laptops/Acer-Aspire-AS7551-3029-173-Notebook Reading the specs, it does not seem to be cutting corners, low price notwithstanding. As usual, my main concern is the video chip, and Gentoo support (or lack thereof?). If it can be made to work under Gentoo without trouble, I'm very interested. Anyone hear one way or the other about linux, especially Gentoo, compatability? -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
