Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
On 01:16 Tue 15 Apr , Philip Webb wrote: 080414 forgottenwizard wrote: On 03:58 Mon 14 Apr , Philip Webb wrote: Vim defaults to keeping temporary files in /var/tmp , but Mutt defaults to /tmp Vim called by Mutt does the same. Recently, I changed the default in .muttrc to use /var/tmp instead as a result I can happily have /tmp cleared at every reboot, which reminds me, I need to delete many /var/tmp/mutt-* ... (smile). Off-topic, I know, but can you post how to do this? It doesn't seem OT to me (smile): in ~/.muttrc include the line set tmpdir=/var/tmp Vim otherwise continues to keep its .swp files in the same dir as the file it's editing; only Mutt is affected, but you are guaranteed recovery of an e-mail being edited during a crash. To set the system to clear /tmp at boot, edit /etc/conf.d/bootmisc to include the line WIPE_TMP=yes -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Thanks. WIPE_TMP seems to be the default, fwiw. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:36:42 -0400, Steven Lembark wrote: I second that, tmpfs for /tmp is great: Catch: You loose it all on reboot. You are supposed to. The LFS says that /tmp is for files that do not need to survive a reboot. Baselayout now defaults to wiping /tmp at boot anyway. Since things like vi keep their in-work backups there, loosing the entire contents of /tmp after a crash can be painful. Then they are broken, such data should be stored in /var/tmp. -- Neil Bothwick Can you be a closet claustrophobic? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
080414 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:36:42 -0400, Steven Lembark wrote: vi keep their in-work backups there, loosing the entire contents of /tmp after a crash can be painful. Then they are broken, such data should be stored in /var/tmp. Vim defaults to keeping temporary files in /var/tmp , but Mutt defaults to /tmp Vim called by Mutt does the same. Recently, I changed the default in .muttrc to use /var/tmp instead as a result I can happily have /tmp cleared at every reboot, which reminds me, I need to delete many /var/tmp/mutt-* ... (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
On Monday 14 April 2008, Steven Lembark wrote: I second that, tmpfs for /tmp is great: tmpfs 512M 12K 512M 1% /tmp Catch: You loose it all on reboot. Doesn't matter. The standard definition for /tmp (per FHS) is contains files that are not expected to persists across different invocations of a program. Never mind reboots, if you just exit and restart vi, it cannot expect the temp file to still be there. vi is a sane program and will in all likelihood respect this almost-universal standard. If anyone wants different behaviour (can't think why...) then configure vi to use a different directory as a scratch pad -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
On Montag, 14. April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: vi is a sane program and will in all likelihood respect this almost-universal standard. If anyone wants different behaviour (can't think why...) then configure vi to use a different directory as a scratch pad it is not sane, but it would be surprising if it really does depend on /tmp surviving a reboot. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
080414 forgottenwizard wrote: On 03:58 Mon 14 Apr , Philip Webb wrote: Vim defaults to keeping temporary files in /var/tmp , but Mutt defaults to /tmp Vim called by Mutt does the same. Recently, I changed the default in .muttrc to use /var/tmp instead as a result I can happily have /tmp cleared at every reboot, which reminds me, I need to delete many /var/tmp/mutt-* ... (smile). Off-topic, I know, but can you post how to do this? It doesn't seem OT to me (smile): in ~/.muttrc include the line set tmpdir=/var/tmp Vim otherwise continues to keep its .swp files in the same dir as the file it's editing; only Mutt is affected, but you are guaranteed recovery of an e-mail being edited during a crash. To set the system to clear /tmp at boot, edit /etc/conf.d/bootmisc to include the line WIPE_TMP=yes -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
Hi list! Due to disk space restrictions I've decided to make /tmp a symlink to /var/tmp instead of reserving space for both. Maybe it would have been wiser to make /tmp a symlink to a dedicated directory in /var/tmp but now it's too late. Anyway, now I've found /var/tmp crowded with thousands of files with six letters long nonsensical names like 6mtgWC or bOaiA0 each 4.9 kB big. file identifies them as TrueType font data. They all belong to my user. Now I'm wondering where they come from, (maybe OOo, Epdfview or Acroread?), and if I can I safely remove them. By the way, does anyone know whether tracker writes to /tmp or /var/tmp? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
Due to disk space restrictions I've decided to make /tmp a symlink to /var/tmp instead of reserving space for both. Maybe it would have been wiser to make /tmp a symlink to a dedicated directory in /var/tmp but now it's too late. I'd suggest not symlinking /tmp since it is part of the system startup. If you want to reserve a single space just mount it under both /tmp and /var/tmp. That avoids issues with not having any tmp space at all (or symlink /var/tmp - /tmp if you want to use a symlink). -- Steven Lembark85-09 90th St. Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 888 359 3508 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:38:31 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Due to disk space restrictions I've decided to make /tmp a symlink to /var/tmp instead of reserving space for both. Why not use tmpfs for /tmp? It usually requires very little space, and will use swap if memory is tight. -- Neil Bothwick The careful application of terror is also a form of communication. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
On Sonntag, 13. April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:38:31 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Due to disk space restrictions I've decided to make /tmp a symlink to /var/tmp instead of reserving space for both. Why not use tmpfs for /tmp? It usually requires very little space, and will use swap if memory is tight. I second that, tmpfs for /tmp is great: tmpfs 512M 12K 512M 1% /tmp -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
On Sunday 13 April 2008 21:28:22 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag, 13. April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: Why not use tmpfs for /tmp? It usually requires very little space, and will use swap if memory is tight. I second that, tmpfs for /tmp is great: tmpfs 512M 12K 512M 1% /tmp I can do better than that, on this system with 4GB RAM: tmpfs /tmptmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=6g0 0 No that we're in a competition, you understand. -- Rgds Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Garbage in /tmp or /var/tmp
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag, 13. April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:38:31 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Due to disk space restrictions I've decided to make /tmp a symlink to /var/tmp instead of reserving space for both. Why not use tmpfs for /tmp? It usually requires very little space, and will use swap if memory is tight. I second that, tmpfs for /tmp is great: tmpfs 512M 12K 512M 1% /tmp Catch: You loose it all on reboot. Since things like vi keep their in-work backups there, loosing the entire contents of /tmp after a crash can be painful. If you can redirect anything making in-work copies to, say, /scratch or ~ then this works nicely (given that you have enough core not to strangle on it). -- Steven Lembark85-09 90th St. Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 888 359 3508 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
