Re: [gentoo-user] HD 630?

[R0b0t1]

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Todd Goodman  wrote:
> * Jorge Almeida  [170327 18:04]:
>> This may be a stupid question, for one of two possible reasons, but
>> here it goes:
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying a recent Intel CPU (7th generation, in
>> saleslang), say an i5-7400, and it came to mind, not too late yet,
>> that the integrated GPU may not be supported in linux. I'm talking
>> about the latest kernels, not necessarily the gentoo-packaged one.
>> Anyone knows something about it? And if not supported, is it likely
>> that it will be sometime soon? I can use a spare Radeon card
>> meanwhile...
>>
>> (And, for someone who is not a gamer, is a 7th generation CPU worth it
>> at all, as opposed to a 6th generation one?)
>>
>> Any input is appreciated
>>
>> Jorge Almeida
>
> Not a stupid question, but also not a concern in my opinion.
>
> I've built a number of desktop machines using Intel i7 (mostly) CPUs
> with integrated GPU and all have been supported well in my
> gentoo-sources kernels.
>
> I find Intel GPU support "just works" far more often than AMD or nVidia.
>
> Of course for heavy duty gaming then those go into a machine.
>
> But the Intel machines seem to have decent support for "lite" gaming
> (though certainly not "heavy duty")
>
> Todd
>

The iGPU on my i4770K performs much better than I ever expected.
Playing Minecraft with a large number of mods is a decent stress test
of both CPU and GPU capacity and it seems to be able to max out the
settings like a graphics card might. I'm not entirely sure there are
programs or games that run natively on Linux that can exceed the
capabilities of an iGPU, save GPGPU libraries or CAD software.

Re: [gentoo-user] HD 630?

[Jorge Almeida]

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 5:46 AM, Todd Goodman  wrote:
> * Jorge Almeida  [170327 18:04]:
>
>
> I've built a number of desktop machines using Intel i7 (mostly) CPUs
> with integrated GPU and all have been supported well in my
> gentoo-sources kernels.
>
> I find Intel GPU support "just works" far more often than AMD or nVidia.
>

That's my experience too, but only with lower end stuff. I'm not so
sure about Kaby Lake. I think I'll take a chance, though.

> Of course for heavy duty gaming then those go into a machine.
>
> But the Intel machines seem to have decent support for "lite" gaming
> (though certainly not "heavy duty")
>
Not a problem

Regards

Jorge

Re: [gentoo-user] HD 630?

[Todd Goodman]

* Jorge Almeida  [170327 18:04]:
> This may be a stupid question, for one of two possible reasons, but
> here it goes:
> 
> I'm thinking of buying a recent Intel CPU (7th generation, in
> saleslang), say an i5-7400, and it came to mind, not too late yet,
> that the integrated GPU may not be supported in linux. I'm talking
> about the latest kernels, not necessarily the gentoo-packaged one.
> Anyone knows something about it? And if not supported, is it likely
> that it will be sometime soon? I can use a spare Radeon card
> meanwhile...
> 
> (And, for someone who is not a gamer, is a 7th generation CPU worth it
> at all, as opposed to a 6th generation one?)
> 
> Any input is appreciated
> 
> Jorge Almeida

Not a stupid question, but also not a concern in my opinion.

I've built a number of desktop machines using Intel i7 (mostly) CPUs
with integrated GPU and all have been supported well in my
gentoo-sources kernels.

I find Intel GPU support "just works" far more often than AMD or nVidia.

Of course for heavy duty gaming then those go into a machine.

But the Intel machines seem to have decent support for "lite" gaming
(though certainly not "heavy duty")

Todd

Re: [gentoo-user] HD 630?

[Håkon Alstadheim]

Den 28. mars 2017 00:03, skrev Jorge Almeida:

This may be a stupid question, for one of two possible reasons, but
here it goes:

I'm thinking of buying a recent Intel CPU (7th generation, in
saleslang), say an i5-7400, and it came to mind, not too late yet,
that the integrated GPU may not be supported in linux. I'm talking
about the latest kernels, not necessarily the gentoo-packaged one.
Anyone knows something about it? And if not supported, is it likely
that it will be sometime soon? I can use a spare Radeon card
meanwhile...
Google "linux intel graphics", and you'll find lots of hits from Intel 
itself. Most likely also from linux kernel maintainers. My impression 
(though I do not have one of these cpus) is that this is very well 
supported, and Intel is eager to get their latest offering out into the 
linux community, in a fairly stable form.




(And, for someone who is not a gamer, is a 7th generation CPU worth it
at all, as opposed to a 6th generation one?)
Read some benchmarks for your work-load. My guess: yes. Calculate 
percent increase performance, compare prices. Prices change all the 
time, so you need to do this the same week as you place your order.


Point to keep in mind: not just raw power but also heat/performance is 
relevant. Newer cpus waste less energy/need fewer fans/make less noise 
per work-unit done.


Running gentoo you might also be well positioned to take advantage of 
latest optimizations, but this can be a huge sink for your personal 
time. For reasonable effort, expect to wait at least a couple of years 
before stable gcc and kernel modules will push your rig to the max.

[gentoo-user] HD 630?

[Jorge Almeida]

This may be a stupid question, for one of two possible reasons, but
here it goes:

I'm thinking of buying a recent Intel CPU (7th generation, in
saleslang), say an i5-7400, and it came to mind, not too late yet,
that the integrated GPU may not be supported in linux. I'm talking
about the latest kernels, not necessarily the gentoo-packaged one.
Anyone knows something about it? And if not supported, is it likely
that it will be sometime soon? I can use a spare Radeon card
meanwhile...

(And, for someone who is not a gamer, is a 7th generation CPU worth it
at all, as opposed to a 6th generation one?)

Any input is appreciated

Jorge Almeida