Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Daniel Frey]

On 11/29/2016 09:46 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Patrick Steinhardt  [16-11-30 04:01]:
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:39:28PM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Poncho  [16-11-29 18:24]:
 you can use the open-with extension ( see:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/ ) to get a
 "open with mpv" shortcut in your right click menu

 On 29.11.2016 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
>> On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
>>> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
>>> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
>> net-misc/youtube-dl.
>>
>> -- 
>> alarig
>
> Hi Alarig,
>
> thanks for your help! :)
>
> yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> downloading the file, and than watching it.
> This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
>
> I woyld like something like:
> Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> and starts  to watch the video
> directly.
>
> Is it possible somehow?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!
>
> Cheers,
> Meino
>
>>>
>>> Hi Poncho,
>>>
>>> thanks for your help - I installed this one.
>>>
>>> One problem: mpv seems to open the video with the highest
>>> possible resolution...and now...the video.stops
>>> from.time..to time.due to..too
>>> lessDSL bandwidth...
>>>
>>> Can I tell who? to only access videos with 720p max???
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Meino
>>
>> Hi Meino,
>>
>> yes, it is possible. The format-selection is quite flexible with
>> youtube-dl. I've got the following line in
>> ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf:
>>
>> '''
>> ytdl-format=bestvideo[ext!=webm,width<=1920]+bestaudio[protocol!=http_dash_segments]/best
>> '''
>>
>> Something like the following might work for you.
>>
>> '''
>> ytdl-format=bestvideo[width<=920]+bestaudio/best
>> '''
>>
>> It will select a format with width less than 920px together with
>> the best audio source, or, if nothing matches this criteria, the
>> best format available. But just take a look at youtube-dl(1),
>> FORMAT SELECTION.
>>
>> Patrick
> 
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> thanks for your help! :)
> 
> Additionally I played around with the 'vo=' settings.
> Interestingly it hangs always at the same point in the video.
> 
> I played back the video with
> 
> mpv '' from the commandline and get the same effect.
> 
> BUT: The output of mpv changes from "playing video" to
> "buffering" (at this moment the video hangs) and back.
> 
> I increased the cache and readahead in mpv.conf with
> no effect (it even hits the same point in the video
> every time!).
> 
> If I configure width<1280 it seems to work...but does
> it really need to be that small?
> 
> Am I out of luck?
> 
> Cheers
> Meino
> 
> 
> 
> 

You mentioned you have slow DSL. Have you checked for packet loss on
your connection? (ie, smokeping or similar.) Youtube really hates any
amount of packet loss.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Patrick Steinhardt]

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 06:46:00AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Patrick Steinhardt  [16-11-30 04:01]:
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:39:28PM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Poncho  [16-11-29 18:24]:
> > > > you can use the open-with extension ( see:
> > > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/ ) to get a
> > > > "open with mpv" shortcut in your right click menu
> > > > 
> > > > On 29.11.2016 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > > Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
> > > > >> On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > >>> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> > > > >>> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> > > > >>> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
> > > > >> net-misc/youtube-dl.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -- 
> > > > >> alarig
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Alarig,
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks for your help! :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> > > > > Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> > > > > downloading the file, and than watching it.
> > > > > This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I woyld like something like:
> > > > > Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> > > > > and starts  to watch the video
> > > > > directly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is it possible somehow?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance for any help!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Meino
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Poncho,
> > > 
> > > thanks for your help - I installed this one.
> > > 
> > > One problem: mpv seems to open the video with the highest
> > > possible resolution...and now...the video.stops
> > > from.time..to time.due to..too
> > > lessDSL bandwidth...
> > > 
> > > Can I tell who? to only access videos with 720p max???
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > Meino
> > 
> > Hi Meino,
> > 
> > yes, it is possible. The format-selection is quite flexible with
> > youtube-dl. I've got the following line in
> > ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf:
> > 
> > '''
> > ytdl-format=bestvideo[ext!=webm,width<=1920]+bestaudio[protocol!=http_dash_segments]/best
> > '''
> > 
> > Something like the following might work for you.
> > 
> > '''
> > ytdl-format=bestvideo[width<=920]+bestaudio/best
> > '''
> > 
> > It will select a format with width less than 920px together with
> > the best audio source, or, if nothing matches this criteria, the
> > best format available. But just take a look at youtube-dl(1),
> > FORMAT SELECTION.
> > 
> > Patrick
> 
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> thanks for your help! :)
> 
> Additionally I played around with the 'vo=' settings.
> Interestingly it hangs always at the same point in the video.
> 
> I played back the video with
> 
> mpv '' from the commandline and get the same effect.
> 
> BUT: The output of mpv changes from "playing video" to
> "buffering" (at this moment the video hangs) and back.
> 
> I increased the cache and readahead in mpv.conf with
> no effect (it even hits the same point in the video
> every time!).
> 
> If I configure width<1280 it seems to work...but does
> it really need to be that small?
> 
> Am I out of luck?
> 
> Cheers
> Meino

I always had problems with mpv when caching was enabled. In fact,
I'm now running mpv without caching ("cache=no") at all and it
runs smooth as butter, even for full HD and better. So maybe try
disabling the cache altogether?

Otherwise I've got no idea as to what might be causing your
issue. Never had any problems despite caching issues.

Regards
Partick


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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 17:51:29 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Peter Humphrey  [16-11-29 17:24]:
> > On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 12:28:32 I wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 07:42:16 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> > > > Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> > > > liiklike helellell.
> > > 
> > > I use Twitter as a selective news feed, only following organisations
> > > that
> > > are active in my fields of interest, and I get the same effect with
> > > HTML-5
> > > moving pictures. I can't watch them so I scroll to where I can't see
> > > them.
> > 
> > But now it's fine, after upgrading Firefox this morning.
> 
> ok...for the problem is back. :(

Well, my Twitter feed is still fine.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Patrick Steinhardt  [16-11-30 04:01]:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:39:28PM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Poncho  [16-11-29 18:24]:
> > > you can use the open-with extension ( see:
> > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/ ) to get a
> > > "open with mpv" shortcut in your right click menu
> > > 
> > > On 29.11.2016 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
> > > >> On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > >>> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> > > >>> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> > > >>> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
> > > >> net-misc/youtube-dl.
> > > >>
> > > >> -- 
> > > >> alarig
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Alarig,
> > > > 
> > > > thanks for your help! :)
> > > > 
> > > > yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> > > > Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> > > > downloading the file, and than watching it.
> > > > This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
> > > > 
> > > > I woyld like something like:
> > > > Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> > > > and starts  to watch the video
> > > > directly.
> > > > 
> > > > Is it possible somehow?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance for any help!
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Meino
> > > > 
> > 
> > Hi Poncho,
> > 
> > thanks for your help - I installed this one.
> > 
> > One problem: mpv seems to open the video with the highest
> > possible resolution...and now...the video.stops
> > from.time..to time.due to..too
> > lessDSL bandwidth...
> > 
> > Can I tell who? to only access videos with 720p max???
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Meino
> 
> Hi Meino,
> 
> yes, it is possible. The format-selection is quite flexible with
> youtube-dl. I've got the following line in
> ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf:
> 
> '''
> ytdl-format=bestvideo[ext!=webm,width<=1920]+bestaudio[protocol!=http_dash_segments]/best
> '''
> 
> Something like the following might work for you.
> 
> '''
> ytdl-format=bestvideo[width<=920]+bestaudio/best
> '''
> 
> It will select a format with width less than 920px together with
> the best audio source, or, if nothing matches this criteria, the
> best format available. But just take a look at youtube-dl(1),
> FORMAT SELECTION.
> 
> Patrick


Hi Patrick,

thanks for your help! :)

Additionally I played around with the 'vo=' settings.
Interestingly it hangs always at the same point in the video.

I played back the video with

mpv '' from the commandline and get the same effect.

BUT: The output of mpv changes from "playing video" to
"buffering" (at this moment the video hangs) and back.

I increased the cache and readahead in mpv.conf with
no effect (it even hits the same point in the video
every time!).

If I configure width<1280 it seems to work...but does
it really need to be that small?

Am I out of luck?

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Marat BN]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?
From: Alarig Le Lay <ala...@swordarmor.fr>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Date: 11/29/2016 01:36 AM
> On Tue Nov 29 10:19:15 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>> Hi Marat,
>>
>> thanks for your help and link!
>>
>> ...if I install that addon I only get:
>> "Palyback isn't supported on this device"
>> (using Firefox 50.0)
> Mozilla began to drop flash support since firefox 50.
>
Hmmm all in the name of progress...

I just checked my own FF version and I'm still running 45.4.0.  So
perhaps the solution for having a decent YouTube experience would be to
run a < 50 version of FF with the youtube-flash-player addon in a
virtual machine or in a Docker container.


-- Marat

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On 29 November 2016 at 08:42,  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> liiklike helellell.
>

I use "VLC Youtube Shortcut" extension, right click a page or link to
youtube plays it in vlc.

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Patrick Steinhardt]

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:39:28PM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Poncho  [16-11-29 18:24]:
> > you can use the open-with extension ( see:
> > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/ ) to get a
> > "open with mpv" shortcut in your right click menu
> > 
> > On 29.11.2016 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
> > >> On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > >>> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> > >>> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> > >>> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
> > >> net-misc/youtube-dl.
> > >>
> > >> -- 
> > >> alarig
> > > 
> > > Hi Alarig,
> > > 
> > > thanks for your help! :)
> > > 
> > > yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> > > Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> > > downloading the file, and than watching it.
> > > This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
> > > 
> > > I woyld like something like:
> > > Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> > > and starts  to watch the video
> > > directly.
> > > 
> > > Is it possible somehow?
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance for any help!
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Meino
> > > 
> 
> Hi Poncho,
> 
> thanks for your help - I installed this one.
> 
> One problem: mpv seems to open the video with the highest
> possible resolution...and now...the video.stops
> from.time..to time.due to..too
> lessDSL bandwidth...
> 
> Can I tell who? to only access videos with 720p max???
> 
> Cheers
> Meino

Hi Meino,

yes, it is possible. The format-selection is quite flexible with
youtube-dl. I've got the following line in
~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf:

'''
ytdl-format=bestvideo[ext!=webm,width<=1920]+bestaudio[protocol!=http_dash_segments]/best
'''

Something like the following might work for you.

'''
ytdl-format=bestvideo[width<=920]+bestaudio/best
'''

It will select a format with width less than 920px together with
the best audio source, or, if nothing matches this criteria, the
best format available. But just take a look at youtube-dl(1),
FORMAT SELECTION.

Patrick


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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Poncho]

On 29.11.2016 18:39, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Poncho  [16-11-29 18:24]:
>> you can use the open-with extension ( see:
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/ ) to get a
>> "open with mpv" shortcut in your right click menu
>>
>> On 29.11.2016 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
 On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?

 Hi,

 Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
 net-misc/youtube-dl.

 -- 
 alarig
>>>
>>> Hi Alarig,
>>>
>>> thanks for your help! :)
>>>
>>> yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
>>> Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
>>> downloading the file, and than watching it.
>>> This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
>>>
>>> I woyld like something like:
>>> Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
>>> and starts  to watch the video
>>> directly.
>>>
>>> Is it possible somehow?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any help!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Meino
>>>
> 
> Hi Poncho,
> 
> thanks for your help - I installed this one.
> 
> One problem: mpv seems to open the video with the highest
> possible resolution...and now...the video.stops
> from.time..to time.due to..too
> lessDSL bandwidth...
> 
> Can I tell who? to only access videos with 720p max???
> 
> Cheers
> Meino
> 
> 
> 

I use the following snippet in my /etc/mpv/mpv.conf

# The default --ytdl-format is bestvideo+bestaudio/best.
# In the following configuration example, only videos with
# a vertical resolution of 1080 pixels or less will
# be considered
ytdl-format=bestvideo[height<=?1080]+bestaudio/best

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Simon Thelen]

On 16-11-29 at 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
> > On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> > > a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> > > not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> > Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
> > net-misc/youtube-dl.
> yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> downloading the file, and than watching it.
> This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
It doesn't. As long as you have mpv built with +lua it ships with the
youtube-dl hook which will run youtube-dl (if installed) on any url
passed to mpv, parse the json output and then play the "real" video url.

> I woyld like something like:
> Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> and starts  to watch the video
> directly.
> 
> Is it possible somehow?
There's probably around a bazillion addons for that. A quick search
found [1] [2] [3] [4]. Though binding an alias to `mpv $(xsel -b)' and
then executing that after copying a url shouldn't be that hard.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/watch-with-mpv
[2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/external-video
[3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-assistant
[4] https://github.com/agiz/youtube-mpv

-- 
Simon Thelen

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Poncho  [16-11-29 18:24]:
> you can use the open-with extension ( see:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/ ) to get a
> "open with mpv" shortcut in your right click menu
> 
> On 29.11.2016 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
> >> On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >>> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> >>> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> >>> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
> >> net-misc/youtube-dl.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> alarig
> > 
> > Hi Alarig,
> > 
> > thanks for your help! :)
> > 
> > yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> > Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> > downloading the file, and than watching it.
> > This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
> > 
> > I woyld like something like:
> > Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> > and starts  to watch the video
> > directly.
> > 
> > Is it possible somehow?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any help!
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Meino
> > 

Hi Poncho,

thanks for your help - I installed this one.

One problem: mpv seems to open the video with the highest
possible resolution...and now...the video.stops
from.time..to time.due to..too
lessDSL bandwidth...

Can I tell who? to only access videos with 720p max???

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Poncho]

you can use the open-with extension ( see:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/ ) to get a
"open with mpv" shortcut in your right click menu

On 29.11.2016 08:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
>> On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
>>> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
>>> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
>> net-misc/youtube-dl.
>>
>> -- 
>> alarig
> 
> Hi Alarig,
> 
> thanks for your help! :)
> 
> yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> downloading the file, and than watching it.
> This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
> 
> I woyld like something like:
> Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> and starts  to watch the video
> directly.
> 
> Is it possible somehow?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help!
> 
> Cheers,
> Meino
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Peter Humphrey  [16-11-29 17:24]:
> On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 12:28:32 I wrote:
> > On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 07:42:16 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> > > Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> > > liiklike helellell.
> > 
> > I use Twitter as a selective news feed, only following organisations that
> > are active in my fields of interest, and I get the same effect with HTML-5
> > moving pictures. I can't watch them so I scroll to where I can't see them.
> 
> But now it's fine, after upgrading Firefox this morning.
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Peter
> 
> 

ok...for the problem is back. :(

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Peter Humphrey  [16-11-29 17:24]:
> On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 12:28:32 I wrote:
> > On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 07:42:16 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> > > Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> > > liiklike helellell.
> > 
> > I use Twitter as a selective news feed, only following organisations that
> > are active in my fields of interest, and I get the same effect with HTML-5
> > moving pictures. I can't watch them so I scroll to where I can't see them.
> 
> But now it's fine, after upgrading Firefox this morning.
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Peter
> 
> 

Hi Peter,

same here...after update its seems to work so far...
fingers crossed ;)

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 12:28:32 I wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 07:42:16 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> > Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> > liiklike helellell.
> 
> I use Twitter as a selective news feed, only following organisations that
> are active in my fields of interest, and I get the same effect with HTML-5
> moving pictures. I can't watch them so I scroll to where I can't see them.

But now it's fine, after upgrading Firefox this morning.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Alexander Openkowski  [16-11-29 15:16]:
> I have recently installed "www-plugins/freshplayerplugin", which makes
> Firefox use Chromium's flash-plugin (iirc). It works fine for me here.
> 
> On 11/29/2016 03:01 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Volker Armin Hemmann  [16-11-29 14:56]:
> >> Am 29.11.2016 um 11:28 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> >>> Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 10:44]:
>  On Tue Nov 29 10:19:15 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi Marat,
> >
> > thanks for your help and link!
> >
> > ...if I install that addon I only get:
> > "Palyback isn't supported on this device"
> > (using Firefox 50.0)
>  Mozilla began to drop flash support since firefox 50.
> 
>  -- 
>  alarig
> >>>
> >>> ...so I am out of lyck, am I?
> >>>
> >>> I dont know mozillas intentions here...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Meino
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> before you do any stupid stuff. Does hw acceleration work? Does video
> >> acceleration work?
> >>
> > In general ? Or in respect to playing HTML5 videos?
> > HTML5: No matter whether it is on or of: HTML5 stuttered.
> >
> > BUT:
> > I have upgraded from FF 50.0.0 to FF 50.0.1 and everything works
> > fine now...
> > Let's see what the future will bring...
> > FF 50.0.0 had also short periods of good will..
> >
> > Cheers
> > Meino
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
Hi Alexander,

that's sounds good! Since I update FF from 50.0.0 to 50.0.1 it works
currently smoothly...will...if not: I will try that plugin!

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Alexander Openkowski]

I have recently installed "www-plugins/freshplayerplugin", which makes
Firefox use Chromium's flash-plugin (iirc). It works fine for me here.

On 11/29/2016 03:01 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann  [16-11-29 14:56]:
>> Am 29.11.2016 um 11:28 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
>>> Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 10:44]:
 On Tue Nov 29 10:19:15 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi Marat,
>
> thanks for your help and link!
>
> ...if I install that addon I only get:
> "Palyback isn't supported on this device"
> (using Firefox 50.0)
 Mozilla began to drop flash support since firefox 50.

 -- 
 alarig
>>>
>>> ...so I am out of lyck, am I?
>>>
>>> I dont know mozillas intentions here...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Meino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> before you do any stupid stuff. Does hw acceleration work? Does video
>> acceleration work?
>>
> In general ? Or in respect to playing HTML5 videos?
> HTML5: No matter whether it is on or of: HTML5 stuttered.
>
> BUT:
> I have upgraded from FF 50.0.0 to FF 50.0.1 and everything works
> fine now...
> Let's see what the future will bring...
> FF 50.0.0 had also short periods of good will..
>
> Cheers
> Meino
>
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Volker Armin Hemmann  [16-11-29 14:56]:
> Am 29.11.2016 um 11:28 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> > Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 10:44]:
> >> On Tue Nov 29 10:19:15 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >>> Hi Marat,
> >>>
> >>> thanks for your help and link!
> >>>
> >>> ...if I install that addon I only get:
> >>> "Palyback isn't supported on this device"
> >>> (using Firefox 50.0)
> >> Mozilla began to drop flash support since firefox 50.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> alarig
> >
> >
> > ...so I am out of lyck, am I?
> >
> > I dont know mozillas intentions here...
> >
> > Cheers
> > Meino
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> before you do any stupid stuff. Does hw acceleration work? Does video
> acceleration work?
> 

In general ? Or in respect to playing HTML5 videos?
HTML5: No matter whether it is on or of: HTML5 stuttered.

BUT:
I have upgraded from FF 50.0.0 to FF 50.0.1 and everything works
fine now...
Let's see what the future will bring...
FF 50.0.0 had also short periods of good will..

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 29.11.2016 um 11:28 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 10:44]:
>> On Tue Nov 29 10:19:15 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Hi Marat,
>>>
>>> thanks for your help and link!
>>>
>>> ...if I install that addon I only get:
>>> "Palyback isn't supported on this device"
>>> (using Firefox 50.0)
>> Mozilla began to drop flash support since firefox 50.
>>
>> -- 
>> alarig
>
>
> ...so I am out of lyck, am I?
>
> I dont know mozillas intentions here...
>
> Cheers
> Meino
>
>
>
>
>

before you do any stupid stuff. Does hw acceleration work? Does video
acceleration work?

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 07:42:16 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

> I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> liiklike helellell.

I use Twitter as a selective news feed, only following organisations that are 
active in my fields of interest, and I get the same effect with HTML-5 moving 
pictures. I can't watch them so I scroll to where I can't see them.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 10:44]:
> On Tue Nov 29 10:19:15 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi Marat,
> > 
> > thanks for your help and link!
> > 
> > ...if I install that addon I only get:
> > "Palyback isn't supported on this device"
> > (using Firefox 50.0)
> 
> Mozilla began to drop flash support since firefox 50.
> 
> -- 
> alarig



...so I am out of lyck, am I?

I dont know mozillas intentions here...

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 29.11.2016 um 07:42 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> Hi,
>
> I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> liiklike helellell. 
>
> I tested a lot of HTML5 addons to fix that problem and googled
> around the world but nothing helps. The only thing I found is an
> iconic sentence, which is true in this case also:
> "You are not alone...!".
>
> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
>
> Thanks for any help in advance!
> Cheers
> Meino
>
> PS: For the completeness:
> I have tried to fix that problem by:
> Restarting firefox
> Disabling hardware acceleration
> Disabling webgl
> Checking, whether the YouTube-testpage shows "all ok" for HTML5 (it does)
> Checking various about:config-setting for usefulness
> De-/Installing various addons, which all promise the heaven on earth
>
>
> .
>
using chrome I have no problems at all, as long as the graphic driver
stack is working fine.

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Alarig Le Lay]

On Tue Nov 29 10:19:15 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi Marat,
> 
> thanks for your help and link!
> 
> ...if I install that addon I only get:
> "Palyback isn't supported on this device"
> (using Firefox 50.0)

Mozilla began to drop flash support since firefox 50.

-- 
alarig


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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Marat BN <mara...@gmail.com> [16-11-29 08:44]:
> I've been running the youtube-flash-player Firefox addon
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/ for
> several months now with decent results.  It just reverts YouTube back to
> the old Flash video player.  It's been working well for me.  I'm not
> affiliated with it and I recommend it.
> 
> 
> -- Marat
> 
> 
>  Original Message ----
> Subject: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?
> From: meino.cra...@gmx.de
> To: Gentoo <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Date: 11/28/2016 10:42 PM
> > Hi,
> >
> > I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> > Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> > liiklike helellell. 
> >
> > I tested a lot of HTML5 addons to fix that problem and googled
> > around the world but nothing helps. The only thing I found is an
> > iconic sentence, which is true in this case also:
> > "You are not alone...!".
> >
> > Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> > a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> > not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> >
> > Thanks for any help in advance!
> > Cheers
> > Meino
> >
> > PS: For the completeness:
> > I have tried to fix that problem by:
> > Restarting firefox
> > Disabling hardware acceleration
> > Disabling webgl
> > Checking, whether the YouTube-testpage shows "all ok" for HTML5 (it does)
> > Checking various about:config-setting for usefulness
> > De-/Installing various addons, which all promise the heaven on earth
> >
> >
> 
> 

Hi Marat,

thanks for your help and link!

...if I install that addon I only get:
"Palyback isn't supported on this device"
(using Firefox 50.0)

>From my system:
[I] www-plugins/adobe-flash
 Available versions:  
 (0)11.2.202.644^ms
 (22)   23.0.0.207^ms ~24.0.0.154^ms
   {debug kde +npapi +ppapi selinux ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_PPC="32 64" 
ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse2"}
 Installed versions:  23.0.0.207(22)^ms(18:31:52 11/25/16)(ABI_MIPS="-n32 
-n64 -o32" ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="64 -32 -x32")
 Homepage:http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer.html 
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ 
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player.html
 Description: Adobe Flash Player


It does not show up under "plugins" though

Cheers,
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Alarig Le Lay]

On Tue Nov 29 08:35:53 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi Alarig,
> 
> thanks for your help! :)
> 
> yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
> Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
> downloading the file, and than watching it.
> This was my (painful) workaround the last days.
> 
> I woyld like something like:
> Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
> and starts  to watch the video
> directly.
> 
> Is it possible somehow?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help!

I don’t know if it possible to automatically pop up a console, but you
can stream directly from mpv. But their is a youtube-dl hook for this,
so you need to emerge it before.

alarig@pikachu ~ % mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch\?v\=A_LxJWHnjSI

Warning: mpv was compiled against a different version of ffmpeg than the shared
library it is linked against. This can expose subtle ABI compatibility issues
and can lead to misbehavior and crashes.
Playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_LxJWHnjSI
 (+) Video --vid=1 (vp8)
 (+) Audio --aid=1 (*) (vorbis)
[vo/opengl/x11] X11 error: GLXBadFBConfig
[vo/opengl] Could not create GL3 context. Retrying with legacy context.
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz stereo 2ch float
VO: [opengl] 480x270 yuv420p
AV: 00:00:03 / 00:02:33 (2%) A-V: -0.000 Cache: 10s+285KB


Exiting... (Quit)

But the best is to run away from google ;)

-- 
alarig


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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Alarig Le Lay  [16-11-29 08:16]:
> On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> > a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> > not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
> net-misc/youtube-dl.
> 
> -- 
> alarig

Hi Alarig,

thanks for your help! :)

yes...I know...but this implies (as far as I know):
Copying the url from FF as argument to youtube-dl,
downloading the file, and than watching it.
This was my (painful) workaround the last days.

I woyld like something like:
Click on youtube-url, a window (console) pops up 
and starts  to watch the video
directly.

Is it possible somehow?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Cheers,
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Marat BN]

I've been running the youtube-flash-player Firefox addon
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/ for
several months now with decent results.  It just reverts YouTube back to
the old Flash video player.  It's been working well for me.  I'm not
affiliated with it and I recommend it.


-- Marat


 Original Message 
Subject: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?
From: meino.cra...@gmx.de
To: Gentoo <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Date: 11/28/2016 10:42 PM
> Hi,
>
> I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> liiklike helellell. 
>
> I tested a lot of HTML5 addons to fix that problem and googled
> around the world but nothing helps. The only thing I found is an
> iconic sentence, which is true in this case also:
> "You are not alone...!".
>
> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
>
> Thanks for any help in advance!
> Cheers
> Meino
>
> PS: For the completeness:
> I have tried to fix that problem by:
> Restarting firefox
> Disabling hardware acceleration
> Disabling webgl
> Checking, whether the YouTube-testpage shows "all ok" for HTML5 (it does)
> Checking various about:config-setting for usefulness
> De-/Installing various addons, which all promise the heaven on earth
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Alarig Le Lay]

On Tue Nov 29 07:42:16 2016, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?

Hi,

Yes, you can play video from youtube with mpv if you have emerged
net-misc/youtube-dl.

-- 
alarig


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[gentoo-user] HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[Meino . Cramer]

Hi,

I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
liiklike helellell. 

I tested a lot of HTML5 addons to fix that problem and googled
around the world but nothing helps. The only thing I found is an
iconic sentence, which is true in this case also:
"You are not alone...!".

Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?

Thanks for any help in advance!
Cheers
Meino

PS: For the completeness:
I have tried to fix that problem by:
Restarting firefox
Disabling hardware acceleration
Disabling webgl
Checking, whether the YouTube-testpage shows "all ok" for HTML5 (it does)
Checking various about:config-setting for usefulness
De-/Installing various addons, which all promise the heaven on earth