RE: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
> At this stage I'm doing > # emerge --update --ask --deep --verbose --newuse --tree world > as setting alsa on is asking quite few items to want to recompile. >>OK, stop where you are. Hands off the 'Enter' key ;-) Hi Holly - To late ... I'd already hit enter ... When I looked at my system afterwards I had sound ..!! Everything seems to work OK at the moment. Obviously recompiling with USE=alsa worked. I am however going to work through your very informative post. I'm a genkernel user for no other reason than I just have not made the time to build a kernel manually (Young children play havoc with time management). Regards and thanks, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 12/07/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
At Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:48:01 +1000 Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Have you loaded the newly-compiled alsa driver modules for your sound >>> card, run alsaconf and unmuted the mixer via alsamixer? >>> Holly > > Hi again - I tried > # emerge -s alsa > and got loads of output. Would you know what the correct emerge command is > for the alsa driver modules? Does alsaconf come as part of the driver > install? > > I had installed alsamixer (with -alsa ...) earlier and it loads a blank > interface with no controls at all. > > At this stage I'm doing > # emerge --update --ask --deep --verbose --newuse --tree world One of my favorite commands. > as setting alsa on is asking quite few items to want to recompile. For me, the key to sound was adding "gstreamer" to USE (and then running one of my favorite commands). I use gnome. allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
Richard Watson schreef: >>>Have you loaded the newly-compiled alsa driver modules for your sound >>>card, run alsaconf and unmuted the mixer via alsamixer? >>>Holly > > > Hi again - I tried > # emerge -s alsa > and got loads of output. Would you know what the correct emerge command is > for the alsa driver modules? Does alsaconf come as part of the driver > install? If you are using a 2.6-series kernel, the alsa drivers are part of your *kernel* config, and no additional driver package is necessary to emerge (although some people like to, but that's another story). Alsaconf is part of the alsa-utils package. If you are using the kernel's alsa drivers (which are perfectly adequate), you probably want to emerge all the other packages that are *not* alsa-driver in order to get everything working properly under all circumstances: alsa-lib (required) alsa-headers (probably required) alsa-utils (required) alsa-tools (required) alsa-oss (probably optional) alsa-firmware (probably optional) You might also want a systray applet for the mixer if you're using KDE or GNOME: kamix gamix > > I had installed alsamixer (with -alsa ...) earlier and it loads a blank > interface with no controls at all. > > At this stage I'm doing > # emerge --update --ask --deep --verbose --newuse --tree world > as setting alsa on is asking quite few items to want to recompile. OK, stop where you are. Hands off the 'Enter' key ;-) . First, you need to confirm your kernel config. I'm going to assume that we're going for a standard setup with the kernel modules compiled into the kernel, rather than as loadable nodules. Let's look at the output of lsmod and see what modules are already loaded. You're looking for items that start with snd- and also items that contain i810 But don't worry if you don't see them; statically compiled kernel drivers don't show in this list anyway. But it's a pre-check before we check the kernel itself. Now, you could look at the .config file in a text editor, but ... spare me. Especially if you're a genkernel user, that's even more confusing to figure out. Since I don't know if you are in fact a genkernel user, and I furthermore don't know a thing about genkernel (meaning, I don't know squat about initrds), we're just going to look at the kernel the way I know how to do it cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig NOTE: if you are a genkernel user, you can (apparently) also do genkernel --menuconfig for the same effect, and then you'll still get a new initrd if you make changes (and save them). OK, now that we're in the menuconfig, we want to know the following: 1. Is support for the onboard components of your motherboard compiled into the kernel (I am assuming that the soundcard is enabled in your BIOS, which is necessary for it to work at all)? 2. Is support for a) sound, b) ALSA and c)ALSA OSS emulation available, and if so, as a module or statically? 3. Are the drivers for your particular sound card compiled, and if so, statically or as a module? So check these settings: Device Drivers=>ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support=> AMD and nVidia IDE support Device Drivers=>Character Devices=>NVIDIA nForce/nForce2 chipset support (these are both to add support for what is *supposed* to be 'other'motherboard resources than onboard sound, but-- since I don't know how motherboards are wired, thus 'what is really connected to what'-- I tend to feel that one wants to confirm any and all 'special' drivers for one's mobo chipset. Besides which, next after sound is all straightened out, you may well want to configure support for 3D hardware accelleration for your video card, in which case you'll be happy to already know whether your mobo's agp support is active or not :-) ). But these are the important ones to check: Device Drivers=>Sound=> Sound card support Device Drivers=>Sound=>ALSA=> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Device Drivers=>Sound=>ALSA=> Sequencer support Device Drivers=>Sound=>ALSA=> OSS Mixer API Device Drivers=>Sound=>ALSA=> OSS PCM (digital audio) API Device Drivers=>Sound=>ALSA=> OSS Sequencer API Device Drivers=>Sound=>ALSA=>PCI devices=>Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller These are the 'necessary drivers' for your sound card, and the ALSA/ALSA OSS emulation backend. We can argue for a month as to whether these should be compiled as modules or statically, but I have found with both onboard sound and an external sound card that the following config offers the least issues (* = static, M = module): Sound card support M ALSA * (however, if you want to use the alsa-driver package, this *must* be M, or the emerge will fail) Sequencer support M OSS Mixer API M OSS PCM M OSS Sequencer * (no choice) Actual card driver M If any of these are missing, you'll have to select them, recompile the kernel and reboot to the recompiled kernel. Your problems may already be solved, if you have previously set up alsasound and the like, but the drivers could not be found to load a
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
2005-07-11, h keltezéssel 20.22-kor Bob Sanders ezt írta: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:10:34 +0200 > Szabo Bence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi! I haven't got any sound too. I emerged all the alsa things, and when > > I alsaconf tries to start the sound I get this: > > > > Loading driver... > > * Loading ALSA modules ... > > * Loading:snd-card-0 ... > > * ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers > > > > In /etc/modules.d/alsa, do you have - > > ## ALSA portion > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > > And did you do a modules-update ? > > Bob > - Yeah, I've done this. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
>> Have you loaded the newly-compiled alsa driver modules for your sound >> card, run alsaconf and unmuted the mixer via alsamixer? >> Holly Hi again - I tried # emerge -s alsa and got loads of output. Would you know what the correct emerge command is for the alsa driver modules? Does alsaconf come as part of the driver install? I had installed alsamixer (with -alsa ...) earlier and it loads a blank interface with no controls at all. At this stage I'm doing # emerge --update --ask --deep --verbose --newuse --tree world as setting alsa on is asking quite few items to want to recompile. Thanks, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:10:34 +0200 Szabo Bence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! I haven't got any sound too. I emerged all the alsa things, and when > I alsaconf tries to start the sound I get this: > > Loading driver... > * Loading ALSA modules ... > * Loading:snd-card-0 ... > * ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers > In /etc/modules.d/alsa, do you have - ## ALSA portion alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 And did you do a modules-update ? Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
2005-07-12, k keltezéssel 01.17-kor Holly Bostick ezt írta: > Richard Watson schreef: > > Hi - I've just finished compiling Gnome and have no sound whatsoever. > > Looking at my USE flags I noticed I had inadvertently set -alsa as a flag. > > > > At this stage I've changed the flag to alsa and re-run genkernel. But still > > no sound. Do I have to recompile everything from scratch or have I made an > > incorrect diagnosis of the problem? > > > > As always any help would be appreciated > > -- > > Regards, Richard > > ECRM Imaging Systems > > > > > > > > > Have you loaded the newly-compiled alsa driver modules for your sound > card, run alsaconf and unmuted the mixer via alsamixer? > > Holly Hi! I haven't got any sound too. I emerged all the alsa things, and when I alsaconf tries to start the sound I get this: Loading driver... * Loading ALSA modules ... * Loading:snd-card-0 ... * ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers I have Nvidia Nforce chipset (alsaconf recognises it well), and I emerged everything with alsa USE flag, in the kernel alsa-stuff are enabled too. I've made it from the gentoo alsa howto, but it just do not work... Maybe the driver sould be installed somehow? Or did I miss something? Thx! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
At Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:12:53 +1000 Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi - I've just finished compiling Gnome and have no sound whatsoever. > Looking at my USE flags I noticed I had inadvertently set -alsa as a flag. > > At this stage I've changed the flag to alsa and re-run genkernel. But still > no sound. Do I have to recompile everything from scratch or have I made an > incorrect diagnosis of the problem? > > As always any help would be appreciated When you change USE flags, you should run emerge --update --newuse world to recompile the affected packages. Actually I run emerge --update --ask --deep --verbose --newuse --tree world allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 01:12, Richard Watson wrote: > Hi - I've just finished compiling Gnome and have no sound whatsoever. > Looking at my USE flags I noticed I had inadvertently set -alsa as a flag. > > At this stage I've changed the flag to alsa and re-run genkernel. But still > no sound. Do I have to recompile everything from scratch or have I made an > incorrect diagnosis of the problem? > > As always any help would be appreciated > -- > Regards, Richard > ECRM Imaging Systems > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 genkernel, which problem should it solve? try emerge --newuse world, to see what has to recompile. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
Richard Watson schreef: > Hi - I've just finished compiling Gnome and have no sound whatsoever. > Looking at my USE flags I noticed I had inadvertently set -alsa as a flag. > > At this stage I've changed the flag to alsa and re-run genkernel. But still > no sound. Do I have to recompile everything from scratch or have I made an > incorrect diagnosis of the problem? > > As always any help would be appreciated > -- > Regards, Richard > ECRM Imaging Systems > > > > Have you loaded the newly-compiled alsa driver modules for your sound card, run alsaconf and unmuted the mixer via alsamixer? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
Hi - I've just finished compiling Gnome and have no sound whatsoever. Looking at my USE flags I noticed I had inadvertently set -alsa as a flag. At this stage I've changed the flag to alsa and re-run genkernel. But still no sound. Do I have to recompile everything from scratch or have I made an incorrect diagnosis of the problem? As always any help would be appreciated -- Regards, Richard ECRM Imaging Systems -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
