Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:44:06 -0400 (EDT) A. Khattri wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > > > Instead, the approach would be to > > - use a console for X11 gui (xterm, rxvt, whatever), > > - use a terminal emulator for for terminal emulation (usually included > > in the console applications, but I'm more thinking of "screen" here > > because you mentioned scollback buffer and stuff), > > - use a serial line comm prog for the serial communication (what's > > wrong with minicom?) > > - use a SSH shell for SSH connections, Telnet for telnet, etc. pp. > > - use a program for skripting ttys for the macros - "expect" and "talk" > > come to my mind. > > And if you want scrollback buffers then try running your > telnet/ssh/minicomm program under screen. you do not need screen. try running them under bash! ctrl-pgup/ctrl-pgdn. Even works in a console. There is undoubtedly an ENV variable to control the number of lines. Also the program script will save everything to a file for later perusal, or which you could tail -f in another xterm/console. > > > -- > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
Daniel D Jones wrote: When I say I need a GUI, I mean I need something with a scroll-back buffer. I'm a Cisco tech and being able to look at back at output that's scrolled off the screen is vital. A program like, say, Konsole, would be fine. well, there is screen - it will log sessions to files, so mix with ssh or telnet, and you have a way to log sessions. qterm is a BBS terminal client, from it's description. I've never ran it. In Konsole, you can CTRL-PGUP, to scroll through the backlog. So yes, SecureCRT is a nice product, but there really isn't a need for such a program under linux. There are collections of programs that perform the same task. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Instead, the approach would be to > - use a console for X11 gui (xterm, rxvt, whatever), > - use a terminal emulator for for terminal emulation (usually included > in the console applications, but I'm more thinking of "screen" here > because you mentioned scollback buffer and stuff), > - use a serial line comm prog for the serial communication (what's > wrong with minicom?) > - use a SSH shell for SSH connections, Telnet for telnet, etc. pp. > - use a program for skripting ttys for the macros - "expect" and "talk" > come to my mind. And if you want scrollback buffers then try running your telnet/ssh/minicomm program under screen. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
Hi, On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400 Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the > '90s like minicom or programs that have limited capabilities. > ... > I'm looking for a GUI program with a scrollback buffer, scripting, > multi protocol support (ssh in all its various > flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc. > ... > This is the kind of technical itch that I would think lots of > programmers would scratch, but I haven't been able to find > anything close. Because this isn't the Unix way of doing things. (I think you're a Cisco tech?!?) Instead, the approach would be to - use a console for X11 gui (xterm, rxvt, whatever), - use a terminal emulator for for terminal emulation (usually included in the console applications, but I'm more thinking of "screen" here because you mentioned scollback buffer and stuff), - use a serial line comm prog for the serial communication (what's wrong with minicom?) - use a SSH shell for SSH connections, Telnet for telnet, etc. pp. - use a program for skripting ttys for the macros - "expect" and "talk" come to my mind. Instead of having a huge, hard-to-maintain one-does-it-all-package, this seems a lot more flexible to me. If you want to save keystrokes - well, write some scripts and aliases. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 07:09 -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:30 am, Frank Schafer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 21:14 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
> > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400
> > >
> > > Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Is anyone aware of a decent comm program for Linux? Something along
> > > > the lines of SecureCRT for Windows? (SecureCRT is a commercial
> > > > program. There's supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much
> > > > prefer to use Open Source.) I can't seem to find anything but stuff
> > > > that was written in the '90s like minicom or programs that have
> > > > limited capabilities. For example, Komport (KDE's serial comm program)
> > > > is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite the fact that it's a GUI
> > > > program. I'm looking for a GUI program with a scrollback buffer,
> > > > scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various flavors,
> > > > serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc. This is the kind
> > > > of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch,
> > > > but I haven't been able to find anything close.
> > >
> > > No gui program I know of. But Ruby will allow you to do all that. As it
> > > supports the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly
> > > straight forward.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > -
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > If I nd a GUI program I'm using Putty. Otherwise ssh
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a shell prompt.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that the GNOMErs and KDErs have something too.
>
> When I say I need a GUI, I mean I need something with a scroll-back buffer.
> I'm a Cisco tech and being able to look at back at output that's scrolled off
> the screen is vital. A program like, say, Konsole, would be fine.
Hmmm, ... wondering ...
If I call {ssh | telnet} frome an {xterm | eterm | aterm | ...} I have a
scroll back buffer. Mostly I configure these tools to not have a
scrollbar, so I use to use or .
Mostly I use this feature to look back to former output only, so I have
it limited to 2000 lines.
Hope this helps
Frank
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:30 am, Frank Schafer wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 21:14 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400 > > > > Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is anyone aware of a decent comm program for Linux? Something along > > > the lines of SecureCRT for Windows? (SecureCRT is a commercial > > > program. There's supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much > > > prefer to use Open Source.) I can't seem to find anything but stuff > > > that was written in the '90s like minicom or programs that have > > > limited capabilities. For example, Komport (KDE's serial comm program) > > > is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite the fact that it's a GUI > > > program. I'm looking for a GUI program with a scrollback buffer, > > > scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various flavors, > > > serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc. This is the kind > > > of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch, > > > but I haven't been able to find anything close. > > > > No gui program I know of. But Ruby will allow you to do all that. As it > > supports the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly > > straight forward. > > > > Bob > > - > > Hi, > > If I nd a GUI program I'm using Putty. Otherwise ssh > [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a shell prompt. > > I'm pretty sure that the GNOMErs and KDErs have something too. When I say I need a GUI, I mean I need something with a scroll-back buffer. I'm a Cisco tech and being able to look at back at output that's scrolled off the screen is vital. A program like, say, Konsole, would be fine. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 21:14 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote: > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400 > Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is anyone aware of a decent comm program for Linux? Something along the > > lines of SecureCRT for Windows? (SecureCRT is a commercial program. > > There's > > supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much prefer to use Open > > Source.) I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the > > '90s like minicom or programs that have limited capabilities. For > > example, > > Komport (KDE's serial comm program) is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite > > the fact that it's a GUI program. I'm looking for a GUI program with a > > scrollback buffer, scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its > > various > > flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc. This is the > > kind of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would > > scratch, > > but I haven't been able to find anything close. > > > > No gui program I know of. But Ruby will allow you to do all that. As it > supports > the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly straight > forward. > > Bob > - > Hi, If I nd a GUI program I'm using Putty. Otherwise ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a shell prompt. I'm pretty sure that the GNOMErs and KDErs have something too. Regards Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400 Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone aware of a decent comm program for Linux? Something along the > lines of SecureCRT for Windows? (SecureCRT is a commercial program. There's > supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much prefer to use Open > Source.) I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the > '90s like minicom or programs that have limited capabilities. For example, > Komport (KDE's serial comm program) is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite > the fact that it's a GUI program. I'm looking for a GUI program with a > scrollback buffer, scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various > flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc. This is the > kind of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch, > but I haven't been able to find anything close. > No gui program I know of. But Ruby will allow you to do all that. As it supports the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly straight forward. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Linux comm program
Is anyone aware of a decent comm program for Linux? Something along the lines of SecureCRT for Windows? (SecureCRT is a commercial program. There's supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much prefer to use Open Source.) I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the '90s like minicom or programs that have limited capabilities. For example, Komport (KDE's serial comm program) is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite the fact that it's a GUI program. I'm looking for a GUI program with a scrollback buffer, scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc. This is the kind of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch, but I haven't been able to find anything close. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
