Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster

Randolph Maaßen writes:


2012/8/17 Alex Schuster mailto:wo...@wonkology.org>>



Woow! What is going on here?



Damn!!
Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.


I'm happy for every reply, and this was a very special one :)


--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
Randolph Maaßen


The signature seems to be separated correctly by "-- " instead of "--", 
yet my Thunderbird does not recognize it as such. Maybe it has a problem 
with quoted-printable format?


Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Matthias Hanft

Randolph Maaßen wrote:


Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.


I assumed your cat walking over the keyboard ;)

-Matt





Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Dale
Randolph Maaßen wrote:
>
>
> 2012/8/17 Alex Schuster mailto:wo...@wonkology.org>>
>
> Randolph Maaßen writes:
>
> Aaa aAaa aaa a
> Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb  
> >>:
>
>  >
>  > Hi Alex,
>  >
>  > ...shot in the dark:
>  > Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa
> www a
> weißes www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w
> aadwqqqaaa www aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa
> quattro
> Aquarellw aaa aa aa Webauftritt aaa a aaa aA aaa
> aAaAaAaq aaawa addons, connections etcwo
>  > from the PC ... make ian as much "bare bone" aaa stwww
> wwwaaa www
> qaaa wwwas a.
>  > www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
>  > dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.
>
>
> Woow! What is going on here?
>
> Wonko
>
>
> Damn!!
> Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.
>
> -- 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
>  
> Randolph Maaßen
>
>

Is your butt sending emails?  I thought they had a different way of
communicating.  LOL 

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!



Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2012/8/17 Alex Schuster 

> Randolph Maaßen writes:
>
>  Aaa aAaa aaa a
>> Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb > >:
>>
>>  >
>>  > Hi Alex,
>>  >
>>  > ...shot in the dark:
>>  > Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a
>> weißes www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w
>> aadwqqqaaa www aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa quattro
>> Aquarellw aaa aa aa Webauftritt aaa a aaa aA aaa
>> aAaAaAaq aaawa addons, connections etcwo
>>  > from the PC ... make ian as much "bare bone" aaa stwww wwwaaa www
>> qaaa wwwas a.
>>  > www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
>>  > dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.
>>
>
> Woow! What is going on here?
>
> Wonko
>
>
Damn!!
Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

Randolph Maaßen


Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster

Randolph Maaßen writes:


Aaa aAaa aaa a
Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de>>:
 >
 > Hi Alex,
 >
 > ...shot in the dark:
 > Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a
weißes www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w
aadwqqqaaa www aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa quattro
Aquarellw aaa aa aa Webauftritt aaa a aaa aA aaa
aAaAaAaq aaawa addons, connections etcwo
 > from the PC ... make ian as much "bare bone" aaa stwww wwwaaa www
qaaa wwwas a.
 > www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
 > dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.


Woow! What is going on here?

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Randolph Maaßen
Aaa aAaa aaa a
Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb :
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> ...shot in the dark:
> Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a weißes
www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w aadwqqqaaa www
aa aaa a aaa www Awaa aaa aa quattro Aquarellw aaa aa
aa Webauftritt aaa a aaa aA aaa aAaAaAaq aaawa addons,
connections etcwo
> from the PC ... make ian as much "bare bone" aaa stwww wwwaaa www
qaaa wwwas a.
> www www waslittle ones also) for dust. Removeaa wwwaa all
> dust even if it is not completly covered with ait.
>
> Dona www ot forget the internals of the power supply. Detach all cables.
> Remove the power supply. Go outside ;) and blow the dust inside away.
>
> Put the power supply back into the PC again an attach the cables.
>
> Remove all RAM, carefully clean the contacts, insert as less RAM as
> possible.
>
> Remove even the HD if it is possible to get into the BIOS
> without any HD attached.
>
> Remove the BIOS battery, wait at least a day and insert it again.
>
> Start the PC and go directly into the BIOS. Check the date/time.
> If it shows the current date/time, the battery wasn't removed
> long enough. Check the battery voltage. Reinsert the battery.
> If your board has a BIOS reset: Reset the BIOS.
>
> Then: In the BIOS enter a page which "does something"
> (reports continously temperatures for example).
>
> If this is possible, let the PC run for a
> while that BIOS page and see, whether it
> hangs again or not.
>
> If all went fine, add ONE component and try it again.
> Add the HD at last to sort out hardware from software bugs...
>
> May be one of the components and not the CPU or motherboard
> causes the problem and you will be able to identify it by
> this procedure...
>
> HTH!
>
> GOOD LUCK!
>
> Best regard,
> mcc
>
> Alex Schuster  [12-08-17 09:56]:
> > Hi there!
> >
> > Two days ago, my PC suddenly died, after working fine for half a year.
> > I used myrtcwake as usual to suspend to RAM, and it woke up in the
> > morning. But after two minutes, the screen went blank and nothing, even
> > SysRq, gave a reaction. I tried booting a couple of times again, and
> > sometimes it did not even reach KDM. Now, I cannot even run Grub (from
> > my USB stick) any more, I only see a "GRUB" string at the top right,
> > then nothing happens.
> >
> > Booting with SystemRescueCD also freezes sometimes. If not, I can make
> > it freeze after seconds by running 'memtester'.
> >
> > Booting good old memtest86 ran for an hour and only found one error,
> > then I aborted, removed three of my four memory modules (4GB each), and
> > tried different ones in the first bank. Memtest86 again did not find
> > much errors, but froze once. Running memtester after booting from
> > SystemrescueCD again makes the thing freeze in seconds. It once also
> > froze while being in the BIOs setup.
> >
> > What could be the problem? CPU, board, or even the PSU? I do not think
> > it has to do with bad memory. I removed most of the other stuff (hard
> > drives, PCI cards). I have no similar hardware so I cannot simply
> > exchange things, the question is what to buy and try. How would you
> > proceed?
> >
> > The fan is still working, the cooler does not become hot, and in the
> > BIOS there are not high temperatures begin reported. But one thing was
> > strange: I updated Calligra from 2.4 to 2.5 (I think), and it took
> > ages, at least 8 hours. I thought there may b something strange with
> > the build process of this new version, forcing MAKEOPTS=-j1 and such,
> > but still this is very long. But when working with it, I did not notice
> > anything strange like sluggish reactions, and videos played fine. But I
> > did not use it as much as I normally do, and maybe even when overheated
> > and throttled down it would have been fast enough for me to not notice
> > this. I watch the syslog normally, but maybe I just did not look
> > closely that day, I was busy doing other stuff.
> >
> > CPUs don't just die, do they? Even when overheating, I think these days
> > throttle down, so no permanent harm should be done? So maybe it's the
> > board? It looks okay, no bent or leaking capacitors.
> >
> > This is really annoying. Of course most of my passwords are in my KDE
> > wallet I cannot access. There's also Wiki, CVS and Git repositories,
> > not needed every day, but still important. And the timinig is very bad,
> > I just started my new job the day the problem happened, and I do not
> > have much time for this now. Before, I was working at home, so I would
> > have had all day to diagnose and try things.
> >
> > It's an AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core CPU, and an ASRock 880GMH/U3S3 board.
> >
> >   Wonko
> >
>
>

Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb :
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> ...shot in the dark:
> Remove as much as possible of the cards, addons, connections etc
> from the PC ... make in as much "bare bone" as possible.
>
> Check All coolers (the little ones also) for dust. Remov