Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message
On 8/13/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 August 2006 04:39, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: This was not the first time. It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking at a new fresh crop. Am I then to understand that none of these messages will ever be warning ME that I need to do something (actually, I know that's not true). If not, how am I to tell? What clues are you guys going on? Is it just beyond some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that marks it as for devs only? the threashold is, that this is a warning about a function used in ebuilds to use a certain eclass, which is even more ebuild stuff. And correcting ebuilds is dev stuff. No need for geekiness threshold - if it is about ebuilds and eclasses, it is for devs. Heck, every problem/warning about an ebuild is for devs. If there is a message for the user, it is usually very easy to recognize. Stuff like: 'after updating package FOO to version X.Y.Z-r3 you need to rebuilt package BAR' is obviously for you, the user. I'm not reassured. I don't think messages among devs should share a channel with messages to users without some explicit tagging. The stuff you say is for devs looks worrisome to me because I don't really understand it. I'd like something more clear. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 07:54, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On 8/13/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 August 2006 04:39, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: This was not the first time. It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking at a new fresh crop. Am I then to understand that none of these messages will ever be warning ME that I need to do something (actually, I know that's not true). If not, how am I to tell? What clues are you guys going on? Is it just beyond some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that marks it as for devs only? the threashold is, that this is a warning about a function used in ebuilds to use a certain eclass, which is even more ebuild stuff. And correcting ebuilds is dev stuff. No need for geekiness threshold - if it is about ebuilds and eclasses, it is for devs. Heck, every problem/warning about an ebuild is for devs. If there is a message for the user, it is usually very easy to recognize. Stuff like: 'after updating package FOO to version X.Y.Z-r3 you need to rebuilt package BAR' is obviously for you, the user. I'm not reassured. I don't think messages among devs should share a channel with messages to users without some explicit tagging. The stuff you say is for devs looks worrisome to me because I don't really understand it. I'd like something more clear. if there is really a problem the ebuild aborts. Is that clear enough? Most of the 'for dev' messages, have a QA in front of it. This ones can be ignored by you safely. Everything that might be interessting for you is in the ebuild, in the 'einfo' block. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 13:27, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Everything that might be interessting for you is in the ebuild, in the 'einfo' block. Or 'ewarn' or 'eerror' or 'elog'. And in the case of an eerror the emerge will die too. All of those four have an asterisk '*' in front of it when displayed on the console. I think the purpose of having it shown to users too is to make sure that a bug report will be filed which is an option for users who knows what it means least... -- Bo Andresen pgpKRh9MLxMF4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message
On 7/22/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin O'Gorman wrote: WARN: prerm Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass Needs to be fixed by the maintainer of the ebuild. If you feel like it, file a bug (check first to see that there isn't already one), or if you really feel like being obnoxious, e-mail the maintainer (check in the ebuild). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list This was not the first time. It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking at a new fresh crop. Am I then to understand that none of these messages will ever be warning ME that I need to do something (actually, I know that's not true). If not, how am I to tell? What clues are you guys going on? Is it just beyond some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that marks it as for devs only? IMNSHO, there's gotta be a better way to run this. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] PORTAGE message
The ebuild for media-libs/libmpeg3-1.5.2 is giving me a message I don't know how to use: WARN: prerm Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass WARN: postrm Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass I don't know how to upgrade this any more than what I just did by emerging it. Anybody know what it's talking about? Anybody even know what toolchain-funcs it's talking about -- my browse through the portage tree comes up with no obvious candidate. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message
Hi, On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 18:43 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: The ebuild for media-libs/libmpeg3-1.5.2 is giving me a message I don't know how to use: WARN: prerm Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass WARN: postrm Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass I don't know how to upgrade this any more than what I just did by emerging it. Anybody know what it's talking about? Anybody even know what toolchain-funcs it's talking about -- my browse through the portage tree comes up with no obvious candidate. I think (and I'm kindof guessing) is this is a message from dev's to dev's, essentially saying the ebuild (libmpeg) needs to be altered slightly to use some new features of portage instead of some old. Something to do with the nature of the continuing development on portage. I think you don't need to worry about it at all, so long as your package installs in the end. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au You can only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: WARN: prerm Please upgrade your package (libmpeg3-1.5.2) to use toolchain-funcs.eclass Needs to be fixed by the maintainer of the ebuild. If you feel like it, file a bug (check first to see that there isn't already one), or if you really feel like being obnoxious, e-mail the maintainer (check in the ebuild). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
