[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread James
Walter Dnes  waltdnes.org> writes:


> > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several
> > google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice
> > in a month get into the situation when Claws asks me to verify
> > and change the google certificates, first in one direction and
> > soon after that (usually during the next downloading of my e-mails)
> > - in another.

> > I suspect that it is google that makes something wrong here.
> > What do you think?

>   The 2 servers probably have different certificates, which is why you
> get this behaviour.  I suggest going into "apk mode" and putting an
> entry into your hosts file , like...

> 173.194.192.108 pop.gmail.com

>   This will force your system to always use the same server, and avoid
> the re-validation every time you hit the other server from the one you
> used the previous time.


Clusters & Clouds are the sort answer. Everybody (big) is now racing to
deploy services; often as if a single IP or dns record or domain name,
yet underneath is a cluster of many, many machines. The security is,
well, let's just say evolving to be kind. I have no idea about your
particular situation; but I've been reading up on cluster and cloud
for months now, so here are a few links you might find interesting.
Hopefully that illuminate that services that are traditionally single
machine bound, are now on top of clusters of machines; and that is
a hack-a-day-patch-away scenario that is very fast moving. YMMV [1,2,3].


Mesos is the cluster technology that I follow (or at least try to).
I'm trying to get a full set of codes and mesos into the portage tree.
If nothing else, folks can use (3+) old machines to build a cluster
to see where we are all moving to (clouds and cluster), like it or not,
imho.


hth,
James

[1] https://mesosphere.github.io/mesos-dns/docs/tutorial-gce.html

[2] https://github.com/mesosphere/mesos-dns

[3] https://github.com/Banno/vagrant-mesos

[4]
http://radar.oreilly.com/2014/01/apache-mesos-open-source-datacenter-computing.html







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 15:57:20 + (UTC) James  wrote:

> Walter Dnes  waltdnes.org> writes:
> 
> 
> > > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several
> > > google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice
> > > in a month get into the situation when Claws asks me to verify
> > > and change the google certificates, first in one direction and
> > > soon after that (usually during the next downloading of my e-mails)
> > > - in another.
> 
> > > I suspect that it is google that makes something wrong here.
> > > What do you think?
> 
> >   The 2 servers probably have different certificates, which is why you
> > get this behaviour.  I suggest going into "apk mode" and putting an
> > entry into your hosts file , like...
> 
> > 173.194.192.108 pop.gmail.com
> 
> >   This will force your system to always use the same server, and avoid
> > the re-validation every time you hit the other server from the one you
> > used the previous time.
> 
> 
> Clusters & Clouds are

the cause of problems. :)

But thank you for the links. I will look at them later.

> the sort answer. Everybody (big) is now racing to
> deploy services; often as if a single IP or dns record or domain name,
> yet underneath is a cluster of many, many machines. The security is,
> well, let's just say evolving to be kind. I have no idea about your
> particular situation; but I've been reading up on cluster and cloud
> for months now, so here are a few links you might find interesting.
> Hopefully that illuminate that services that are traditionally single
> machine bound, are now on top of clusters of machines; and that is
> a hack-a-day-patch-away scenario that is very fast moving. YMMV [1,2,3].
> 
> 
> Mesos is the cluster technology that I follow (or at least try to).
> I'm trying to get a full set of codes and mesos into the portage tree.
> If nothing else, folks can use (3+) old machines to build a cluster
> to see where we are all moving to (clouds and cluster), like it or not,
> imho.
> 
> 
> hth,
> James
> 
> [1] https://mesosphere.github.io/mesos-dns/docs/tutorial-gce.html
> 
> [2] https://github.com/mesosphere/mesos-dns
> 
> [3] https://github.com/Banno/vagrant-mesos
> 
> [4]
> http://radar.oreilly.com/2014/01/apache-mesos-open-source-datacenter-computing.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
>