Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 21 January 2010 00:40:26 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:39:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   Don't tell my motherboard that or it will refuse to update next time
   unless I run some program or other.
 
  So without a program to do flash updates (or at least some code
  somewhere that might not be in .exe or ELF format) how does your
  motherboard do flash updates?

 There's code somewhere of course, but no program to run. I just put the
 update file on a USB stick and hold down a key while booting. The code
 runs direct from the motherboard, there's no operating system
 requirement, it's a very civilized system.

 Yes, very civilised.

 I have a hacked-up-too-gazooks android phone that works the same way


It doesn't help Grant (at least directly) but the new Intel MB I got
to replace my 5 year old Asus which fried last week lists 4 ways to
update BIOS:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=YDwnldID=18509ProdId=3142lang=eng

The fourth is specifically for Linux systems.

- Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 01/19/2010 06:26 PM, Grant wrote:

I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
is said to be Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA.  I've flashed the BIOS in
other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it?  I tried running the
utility via wine with no luck.


Most motherboard vendors also offer a bootable ISO image that will flash 
the BIOS automatically once booted from it.  Did you check whether 
Biostar offers this?





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Xi Shen
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 On 01/19/2010 06:26 PM, Grant wrote:

 I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
 is said to be Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA.  I've flashed the BIOS in
 other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
 Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it?  I tried running the
 utility via wine with no luck.

 Most motherboard vendors also offer a bootable ISO image that will flash the
 BIOS automatically once booted from it.  Did you check whether Biostar
 offers this?





i just wonder why we do not have BIOS flash program on linux.


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David Shen

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[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 01/20/2010 01:53 PM, Xi Shen wrote:

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  wrote:

On 01/19/2010 06:26 PM, Grant wrote:


I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
is said to be Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA.  I've flashed the BIOS in
other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it?  I tried running the
utility via wine with no luck.


Most motherboard vendors also offer a bootable ISO image that will flash the
BIOS automatically once booted from it.  Did you check whether Biostar
offers this?


i just wonder why we do not have BIOS flash program on linux.


Because most people use Windows so that vendors don't bother creating 
Linux versions? :P





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 20 Januar 2010 12:53:23 schrieb Xi Shen:

 i just wonder why we do not have BIOS flash program on linux.

Who says we don't?

Bye...

Dirk



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:53:23 +0800, Xi Shen wrote:

 i just wonder why we do not have BIOS flash program on linux.

I wonder why we have BIOS flash programs at all.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Daisy Duke shorts would never go out of fashion.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 20:13:11 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:53:23 +0800, Xi Shen wrote:
  i just wonder why we do not have BIOS flash program on linux.
 
 I wonder why we have BIOS flash programs at all.

facetious reply
because without them we couldn't flash stuff?
/facetious reply

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:23:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  I wonder why we have BIOS flash programs at all.  
 
 facetious reply
 because without them we couldn't flash stuff?
 /facetious reply

Don't tell my motherboard that or it will refuse to update next time
unless I run some program or other.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 22:19:13 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:23:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   I wonder why we have BIOS flash programs at all.
 
  facetious reply
  because without them we couldn't flash stuff?
  /facetious reply
 
 Don't tell my motherboard that or it will refuse to update next time
 unless I run some program or other.

So without a program to do flash updates (or at least some code somewhere that 
might not be in .exe or ELF format) how does your motherboard do flash 
updates?
 

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:39:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  Don't tell my motherboard that or it will refuse to update next time
  unless I run some program or other.  
 
 So without a program to do flash updates (or at least some code
 somewhere that might not be in .exe or ELF format) how does your
 motherboard do flash updates?

There's code somewhere of course, but no program to run. I just put the
update file on a USB stick and hold down a key while booting. The code
runs direct from the motherboard, there's no operating system
requirement, it's a very civilized system.

Yes, I plug the stick in too, but I hope you'd already worked that bit
out :)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
appreciates how difficult it was.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread ubiquitous1980
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 January 2010 20:13:11 Neil Bothwick wrote:
   
 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:53:23 +0800, Xi Shen wrote:
 
 i just wonder why we do not have BIOS flash program on linux.
   
 I wonder why we have BIOS flash programs at all.
 

 facetious reply
 because without them we couldn't flash stuff?
 /facetious reply

   
Coreboot has a flashing utility I believe.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility

2010-01-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 21 January 2010 00:40:26 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:39:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   Don't tell my motherboard that or it will refuse to update next time
   unless I run some program or other.
 
  So without a program to do flash updates (or at least some code
  somewhere that might not be in .exe or ELF format) how does your
  motherboard do flash updates?
 
 There's code somewhere of course, but no program to run. I just put the
 update file on a USB stick and hold down a key while booting. The code
 runs direct from the motherboard, there's no operating system
 requirement, it's a very civilized system.

Yes, very civilised.

I have a hacked-up-too-gazooks android phone that works the same way

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com